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Hey guys, I'm an avid photo enthusiast. I've been less than impressed with the Mytouch 3G camera sharpness to say the least. With apps like "FXcamera" and "vignette" ive been using the phone to take little artsy snap shots more and more.
Today i realized when i took my battery cover off the camera sharpness improved 100X!!! so much better! The crappy flimsy plastic that HTC used in the battery cover is naturally foggy and causes light to streak in pictures.
So in the end i took an Xacto knife and removed the little plastic window from my battery door.
My phone can now take sharp pictures all the time.
I thought I'd share this bit of info! Try it yourself... take a couple shots without the battery cover! Hope this can help my fellow frustrated MT3G owners
don't know about the MT3G, but the Magic (Vodafone) doesn't have any foil on the camera hole on the battery cover...
but though, thanks for sharing
sirdani said:
don't know about the MT3G, but the Magic (Vodafone) doesn't have any foil on the camera hole on the battery cover...
but though, thanks for sharing
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Not talking about the foil. Talking about actually removing the plastic glass thats attached to the battery cover. So theres just a hole instead of having "glass". that little peice of fake glass destroys the cameras quality. if you take a couple shots without your battery door you'll notice a huge improvment.
dills84 said:
Not talking about the foil. Talking about actually removing the plastic glass thats attached to the battery cover. So theres just a hole instead of having "glass". that little peice of fake glass destroys the cameras quality. if you take a couple shots without your battery door you'll notice a huge improvment.
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I think he was saying that the Magic already has a hole in the battery cover, there is no fake glass piece
might be a good tip for MT3G users though!
Your not worried about the camera lens itself getting dirty? I love taking pics too and they always seem to have a hazy/foggy look. I always used a q-tip to clean the peep hole but now I'm considering your method too.
phatmanxxl said:
Your not worried about the camera lens itself getting dirty? I love taking pics too and they always seem to have a hazy/foggy look. I always used a q-tip to clean the peep hole but now I'm considering your method too.
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i tried everything to clean the little plastic peice, even expencive pro lens fluid (called Eclipse).
I think the plastic is just cheap and will always be foggy.
The lens on the camera inside is pretty heavy duty and set back about 1/8" from the cover... so its pretty impossible to hit it with anything. Its also easier to clean that lens than the battery door lens. It really makes a huuuge difference
Yea I noticed a huge differencealso, and I was able to just push out the lens cover out of the battery door with my thumbnail. But Im just afraid it will I will fog up the camera lense too like dust,sweat, pocket lint, etc. Ill just take the battery door off when I take my pictures unless I can find something to replace the lense cover, like some other piece of plastic or something I can glue onto the back. Ill post any solutions.
Took the plastic cover off as well. Wow, now I will actually use my camera...it was pointless before. Crapy design HTC.
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That's odd, my Rogers HTC Magic doesn't have a glass pane on my battery cover.
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Taknarosh said:
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That's odd, my Rogers HTC Magic doesn't have a glass pane on my battery cover.
Taken with my phone.
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No I beleive the OP is referring to the glass or plastic cover over the camera area of the back cover.
My HTC Magic from vodafone UK doesn't have this but I would imagine removing it would be better
I did this and yes the picture quality improves but the music now sounds less deep, less bass.
Try it and cover the hole with your finger and you will see what I mean.
CLLC said:
No I beleive the OP is referring to the glass or plastic cover over the camera area of the back cover.
My HTC Magic from vodafone UK doesn't have this but I would imagine removing it would be better
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He is holding his battery cover..
A battery cover is to.. cover a battery to make sure it doesn't fall out. He is holding the right object and mine does not have it either.
i broke down and took out the plastic thing, no problem with the lens getting dirty so far.
my vodafone magic doesn't have the protective lens cover on the battery cover.
it does however have a lens protector covering the lens on the actual body of the phone.
it takes pretty good photos though, so maybe it's made of a different material than on the MT3G?
Yeah not a good idea at all...
Do you think that htc putted the plastic cover there just so it would look fancy?
Guess not.. This is not modding... it is actually kinda dumbing.. Give it a week or two.. and then check for all the dust that you're going to have in there...
And lets not talk about a rainy day... The phone probably will go RIP...
So if I were you all.. Ill stay wit the piece of plastic... That my opinion
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Yeah not a good idea at all...
Do you think that htc putted the plastic cover there just so it would look fancy?
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Actually, HTC didn't put it on their branded Magics... Vodafone's and Rogers' Magics don't have it either... only the myTouch 3G
Onixraul1 said:
Yeah not a good idea at all...
Do you think that htc putted the plastic cover there just so it would look fancy?
Guess not.. This is not modding... it is actually kinda dumbing.. Give it a week or two.. and then check for all the dust that you're going to have in there...
And lets not talk about a rainy day... The phone probably will go RIP...
So if I were you all.. Ill stay wit the piece of plastic... That my opinion
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Since I "modded" the phone i have not had a problem with dust or anything like that. Thats what concerned me the most before I did it. And as for a rainy day, I know better than to take my phone out into the rain.
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Since I "modded" the phone i have not had a problem with dust or anything like that. Thats what concerned me the most before I did it. And as for a rainy day, I know better than to take my phone out into the rain.
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Lol who would go and take pics in the rain with their phone anyway?
You could always remove the battery cover when you take pictures, it might seem odd, but that way you won't have to remove that plastic piece, but you do risk getting your lense dirty faster even if you do remove the cover for a minute or so.
or.... we could just seek out a better replacement.
don't they make clearer plastics we could use to replace this?
Yeah i just got my HTC HD2 the other day and so far ive been using the silicone case that comes with it..what ive noticed is that the phone feels so much better in hand without the case and wayy less bulky.
.my question to you guys is the build quality well enough to just put in my pocket and not scratch it. i know the battery cover is metal so no worries there but what about the soft coating on top and bottom. ?..
opinions from any of you that have not used a case? how is the condition of your hd2?
thanks.
ive had mine a week now, no case, in and out of pockets/phone holders and ive even dropped it twice (slippery bastid!)
not a scratch/scuff/mark other than pesky fingerprints!
im very impressed
There is another thread here showing a youtube video of a guy using keys, and box cutter on the screen with no damage.
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There is another thread here showing a youtube video of a guy using keys, and box cutter on the screen with no damage.
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yeah ive seen that video but im wondering about the body like the back for example.
unleashed12 said:
Yeah i just got my HTC HD2 the other day and so far ive been using the silicone case that comes with it..what ive noticed is that the phone feels so much better in hand without the case and wayy less bulky.
.my question to you guys is the build quality well enough to just put in my pocket and not scratch it. i know the battery cover is metal so no worries there but what about the soft coating on top and bottom. ?..
opinions from any of you that have not used a case? how is the condition of your hd2?
thanks.
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using it for 4 months now, pretty heavy usage, geocaching, outdoors, pockets, and so on, and i am betting that you would say it is a new phone if you see it .
absolutely no signs of wear. for sure after few years of noka nseries, this is real delight.
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yeah ive seen that video but im wondering about the body like the back for example.
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I am interested to know how durable is the rubbery material and the rigid camera bezel under these conditions. Please share your experience. Does it scratch? Dent? Deep scratch/dent? Tiny hairline scratch?
1) Dropped
2) Carelessly placing it on the table or rough surface
3) Bumped it walking into something
4) Dropped it from your seat
5) Using it with the ring still on your finger next to the camera bezel?
Just how durable is this HD2's build material?
I personally agree with the reviewers about the build quality being just awesome. HD2 users can confidently use the phone without a case with ease as the metal n rubber coating pretty much wont get scratched / damaged easily. but.. one thing ppl have been talking bout is the glass screen cracking. i've dropped it once but so far so good, no scratches / cracks at all. but overall i would still say, really really good build quality.
I never had any screenprotectors or any screen protecting cases. Although I use it a bit without care (put the phone in a pocket without caring to much if there are any "scratchers" in it) I haven't noticed any scratch on my screen yet.
But I do have a silicon jacket! Not to protect the casing, but to protect the screen. I have seen way too many pictures of HD2's with a broken screen. And the screen was always broken in one of the corners. The silicon case (same model as shipped with the tmous HD2) definitely protects the corners of the screen when the HD2 drops. (tested )
FYI I have the HD2 for 5 months now
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it is serious bull****, as leo's screen CAN be scratched. glass is covered with some plastic layer and just a tiny little bit of sand in Your pocket can do the damage.
I recall reading on one thread about somebody using a silicone cover on their hd2 and when they took it off it peeled the covering from the metal back plate so beware of certain silicone covers !!
Otherwise good solid build quality !! compared to iPhone
how many "no service" "cracked screen""missing button" "no sound"
"battery completely dead" iPhones will be listed on ebay today ? lol.
I wouldn't dream of using my HD2 without the leather case it came with, all other HTC phones I have had (four of them) I have taken them out of the box and put them right into my pocket.
But the HD2 is too nice and valuable to me to let it get tattered, I gently place it on tables just in case the silver cutting on the camera gets dented, in fact, 99 times out of 100 I place it on the case.
But then again I might just be overly anal about keeping it prestine.
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Out of nowhere i got two scratches on my screen yesterday. Don't ask how..still in mourning...
I have a small mark on my Camera already, and I've been handling my camera with extreme care this whole week/weekend thus far. I already have a pretty small scratch (not across the lens thankfully?) and I have no idea how it happened! Been moving my phone around very gently.
Is there anything I can do about the tiny scratch, or do I just have to live with it? I get pretty OCD about small things like this, so I need to make sure there's nothing I can do to try and remedy the scratch before flipping out.
Thanks everyone.
Kooper113 said:
I have a small mark on my Camera already, and I've been handling my camera with extreme care this whole week/weekend thus far. I already have a pretty small scratch (not across the lens thankfully?) and I have no idea how it happened! Been moving my phone around very gently.
Is there anything I can do about the tiny scratch, or do I just have to live with it? I get pretty OCD about small things like this, so I need to make sure there's nothing I can do to try and remedy the scratch before flipping out.
Thanks everyone.
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The Silicone Sleeve sprint sold me for $11 after 25% off (Premier) and Tax lifts it up off any table
Relax. You and everybody else's phone will become dinged up. You are carrying it around with you all day everyday.
You can use the kickstand to keep it off the table or desk and use a case or pouch for carrying.
Use a liquid lens fixer like for glasses.
I cut a little piece from some old cheap screen protectors to cover mine. I'm sure there is some effect on the picture quality, but no current phone is going to compare to a Cannon anyway.
Resisting Lens Scratch
You can always buy a thick rubber washer and glue it around the camera lens. If you do not want to glue it, you can place it in between the cover and the phone. The solution is not fool proof, but it will work nicely to provide extra cushion and space. This solution is easy and cheap. The washer should not be to tight or small in diameter, so it does not interfere with the camera.
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kurtwoodfin said:
You can always buy a thick rubber washer and glue it around the camera lens. If you do not want to glue it, you can place it in between the cover and the phone. The solution is not fool proof, but it will work nicely to provide extra cushion and space. This solution is easy and cheap. The washer should not be to tight or small in diameter, so it does not interfere with the camera.
Kurt
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Placing a rubber washer between the battery cover and the phone, would not do anything to keep the camera lens from resting on the surface that would scratch it.
kurtwoodfin said:
You can always buy a thick rubber washer and glue it around the camera lens. If you do not want to glue it, you can place it in between the cover and the phone. The solution is not fool proof, but it will work nicely to provide extra cushion and space. This solution is easy and cheap. The washer should not be to tight or small in diameter, so it does not interfere with the camera.
Kurt
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I was thinking something along the lines of this. Basically you just need a ring that rests around the lens.
Something similar to this comes to mind. Of course, you wouldn't need to have a new lens on it. Just a piece of metal.
This could be magnetic, or glued. You could probably rip the phone apart and replace the piece with a more protruding piece to do the same, but that's far more intrusive.
I'm sure we'll see commercial magnet like solutions for this. I mean, come on. A small magnetic ring is all we need. Someone is going to bank on that.
Or how about using hoverboard technology so the phone never touches anything, and hovers in midair? Geez people, buy a case.
Jye75 said:
Or how about using hoverboard technology so the phone never touches anything, and hovers in midair? Geez people, buy a case.
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Why cover the entire phone with a case when you can just put something around the lens?
I don't like cases. I think these devices were made to look and function in a certain way. If they "needed" a case it should have been built more robust.
I've had an iPhone 3G with no case for 2 years. I've also had no regrets.
Phone nudists unite!
ViViDboarder said:
Why cover the entire phone with a case when you can just put something around the lens?
I don't like cases. I think these devices were made to look and function in a certain way. If they "needed" a case it should have been built more robust.
I've had an iPhone 3G with no case for 2 years. I've also had no regrets.
Phone nudists unite!
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It was sarcasm. I too, like mine naked, the way it was born. I have a leather case on my hip to put it in when I'm not using it. Jabbing at the fact that people actually want an accessory to attach to the camera lens ring just to keep it from touching another surface and getting scratched, like there should obviously be a market for that. Anyone that anal about possibly scratching a cellphone camera lens... I'm surprised they EVER pull the phone out to do anything at all. (again, sarcasm)
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It was sarcasm. I too, like mine naked, the way it was born. I have a leather case on my hip to put it in when I'm not using it. Jabbing at the fact that people actually want an accessory to attach to the camera lens ring just to keep it from touching another surface and getting scratched, like there should obviously be a market for that. Anyone that anal about possibly scratching a cellphone camera lens... I'm surprised they EVER pull the phone out to do anything at all. (again, sarcasm)
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Haha yea. It's a camera on a phone... My DSLR is in it's nice cushy case. My phone will reside, albeit tightly, in my pocket.
I put mine in my pocket up until today, when I got my HTC leather hip case. I got tired of the pocket lint getting in the earpiece grill.
Tip: use Scotch tape and a blunt tipped object to get the lint out of there.
Jye75 said:
I put mine in my pocket up until today, when I got my HTC leather hip case. I got tired of the pocket lint getting in the earpiece grill.
Tip: use Scotch tape and a blunt tipped object to get the lint out of there.
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I've never used one of those before. I always feel like there's a risk of it falling out. Are they pretty secure?
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I've never used one of those before. I always feel like there's a risk of it falling out. Are they pretty secure?
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It's nice and snug. There's a hole on the bottom for your fingers to push the phone up to take it out. Magnetic flap, no metal button or anything, so no worries about phantom scratches. Stays close to the hip as well, and doesn't feel oversized or anything. Tight enough on the belt that I don't worry about it falling off.
Cool. I'll definitely check that out then. Thanks.
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Cool. I'll definitely check that out then. Thanks.
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The one I have is from Sprint online: Part Number CFH2258R
I got a case for mine simply because I've dropped my iPod touch a few times and I'm pretty sure it'd be damaged by now if it didn't have a silicon skin, the EVO's camera worried me as well... The silicon skin Sprint sells seems a lil' bulkier than it has to be tho, and the button bumps aren't as defined as they could be (my iPod touch's skin actually made the buttons easier to press, quite the opposite here). I'm waiting for a different more glossy/smooth skin from Amzer to ship before I decide if I'll just go naked or what...
i found cameraphone lens protector circles at a store called daiso near by me. works great
well that is what I was afraid of when I bought the note, the paint job of the bezel disappointed me, especially at the headphone plug, it seems that the paint job is really poor, i ended noticing that the paint started to flicker, what a disappointment i hope that it will not get bigger.
I almost knew from the start that it would flake easily especially at weak points like plug in areas, i wish to know how to fix it, but i saw some video and taking it appart is hell, maybe i should consider giving it a brushed look bezel
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well that is what I was afraid of when I bought the note, the paint job of the bezel disappointed me, especially at the headphone plug, it seems that the paint job is really poor, i ended noticing that the paint started to flicker, what a disappointment i hope that it will not get bigger.
I almost knew from the start that it would flake easily especially at weak points like plug in areas, i wish to know how to fix it, but i saw some video and taking it appart is hell, maybe i should consider giving it a brushed look bezel
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I.had mine about a month.no paint issue.never put hard cover on any samaung device.it will peel paint off from bazel.i learned the hard way putting on my infuse.i had tp replace the whole bazel and about 5 min.
mintu123 said:
I.had mine about a month.no paint issue.never put hard cover on any samaung device.it will peel paint off from bazel.i learned the hard way putting on my infuse.i had tp replace the whole bazel and about 5 min.
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I've had my Note for around 3 months.
2 weeks back I was sick, having fever, throat & ear infection.
I took a visit to the hospital and unfortunately dropped the phone whilst sitting down.
I was so sick & weak the phone slipped whilst in my hand.
Thankfully the damage was minimal. The only minor mark was on the upper left hand corner of the bezel, a slight discolouration.
I too would like to change my bezel.
Would you be kind enough to post a link to a video which shows how to dismantle the bezel & then put back?
Thanks.
kanej2006 said:
I've had my Note for around 3 months.
2 weeks back I was sick, having fever, throat & ear infection.
I took a visit to the hospital and unfortunately dropped the phone whilst sitting down.
I was so sick & weak the phone slipped whilst in my hand.
Thankfully the damage was minimal. The only minor mark was on the upper left hand corner of the bezel, a slight discolouration.
I too would like to change my bezel.
Would you be kind enough to post a link to a video which shows how to dismantle the bezel & then put back?
Thanks.
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just get it from ebay,its like $30 original.its very easy.remove battery sim and sdcard and remove 9 screws and use ur thumb under the battery and carefully push screen part out.there is a guide in general how to replace a screen.
mintu123 said:
I.had mine about a month.no paint issue.never put hard cover on any samaung device.it will peel paint off from bazel.i learned the hard way putting on my infuse.i had tp replace the whole bazel and about 5 min.
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no hard cover...you mean no hard cases for Note?
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just get it from ebay,its like $30 original.its very easy.remove battery sim and sdcard and remove 9 screws and use ur thumb under the battery and carefully push screen part out.there is a guide in general how to replace a screen.
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Thanks a bunch!
Every bezel ive come across is a piece of ****.
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tytung2020 said:
no hard cover...you mean no hard cases for Note?
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Yes.dont use hard case.if u have to put case on it use them rubber cases.
are you sure that its easy to replace the bezel, are there no wires or stuff to take apart when changing the bezel. So its only removing the 9 screws.
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are you sure that its easy to replace the bezel, are there no wires or stuff to take apart when changing the bezel. So its only removing the 9 screws.
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My first Note went for a swim with me in salt water so naturally I tried a few things to get it working again, including removing as many components as possible. The bezel is part of the back cover that the battery sits snug against on all edges, and if you use both thumbnails to separate the screen from this bezel/backplate then it should come off after a bit of manipulation.
IMO it's not worth replacing as one mistake will cause another mark and you'll never be satisfied with it unless it's as new. I've found that only after you get a few nicks and bumps that you actually use it like it's meant to be - used. It's not being careless but spending more time using it than being super cautious is where it's at.
I've just been given a weird phone cover. It's some knock-off but I don't mind, the one quirk is that it suction-cups my screen to keep itself (flip cover) shut.
It leaves a weird mark each time, but will there be any long term effects of me using this cover? I know it's a weird cover, but I don't want to damage my phone in any way.
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I've just been given a weird phone cover. It's some knock-off but I don't mind, the one quirk is that it suction-cups my screen to keep itself (flip cover) shut.
It leaves a weird mark each time, but will there be any long term effects of me using this cover? I know it's a weird cover, but I don't want to damage my phone in any way.
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The S8 Seems to scratch easier than previous versions I would personally not use it or get a different one straight away.
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The S8 Seems to scratch easier than previous versions I would personally not use it or get a different one straight away.
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Do suction cups scratch?
Ugh. I was told that the cover was fairly expensive, I don't know how my parents will react to this revelation :S
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Do suction cups scratch?
Ugh. I was told that the cover was fairly expensive, I don't know how my parents will react to this revelation :S
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In my history anything can scratch with repeated use maybe put a tempered glass on top The gorilla glass 5 is "softer" than 4 it has a better impact resistance but not as good as before.... I saddens me to see my month old S8 loaded on back with scratches and a few on glass Despite my being in a otter box and extremly careful