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is there any way to buy a tmobile us hd2?

i am stay in england. i want to buy the new hd2.
thx

Do yu really want a phone that is bigger than the one you'd get locally, and won't be able to use 3G?

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kilrah said:
Do yu really want a phone that is bigger than the one you'd get locally, and won't be able to use 3G?
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I agree with the lack of 3G being an issue, but I've gotta have a great big LOL at the size comment. LOL mate - funny.

I've been meaning to ask this question. So how much difference is the size? I heard it was not very noticable. I saw a link that was posted to a blog somewhere. I'm not sure how credible that source is. Is it taller or wider? By how much?

i just know the euro version is 448MB RAM + 512MB ROM but, t-mobile us is 576MB RAM + 1GB ROM.

FloatHeavy said:
I've been meaning to ask this question. So how much difference is the size? I heard it was not very noticable. I saw a link that was posted to a blog somewhere. I'm not sure how credible that source is. Is it taller or wider? By how much?
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It's 1.5mm taller - that's all (EU HD2 is 120.5mm and the HD2b is 122mm tall).
hujintao said:
i just know the euro version is 448MB RAM + 512MB ROM but, t-mobile us is 576MB RAM + 1GB ROM.
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The EU version also has 576MB RAM. It's just the ROM that's different.

It is 1.5mm taller. I'm not sure that it will not work on 3G in UK: from the specs it seems that it DOES support 2100MHz UMTS (band I) so it should work in Europe. Notice that the G1 had the same specs and many users reported success when used in Europe.

In that case the European ones should have worked in the US (still talking of 3G of course), but we know they don't...

kilrah said:
In that case the European ones should have worked in the US (still talking of 3G of course), but we know they don't...
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No why should they? It is very simple to understand how 3G works in different place and with different phones:
T-mobile 3G network operates on UMTS band IV (i.e. 1700 MHz upload and 2100 Mhz download).
ATT operates on UMTS bands II and V (1900 MHz and 850 MHz).
Most European networks are UMTS band I (2100 MHz) and sometimes band VIII (900 MHz).
Now, the specs of TOMUS version of HD2 says that it works BOTH on band I and band IV. That is why it can work both on US T-mobile network and in Europe. It cannot work on the ATT 3G network though.
The EU version of HD2 works on bands I and VIII so it cannot work on either of US 3G networks.

alefsin said:
Now, the specs of TOMUS version of HD2 says that it works BOTH on band I and band IV
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OK, hadn't seen that.

Here is the relevant part from the TMOUS HD2 specs:
Band (frequency): 850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS: Band IV (AWS);UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100).
I'm living in US now but I'll move to Switzerland within a few months. I have ordered this phone for myself since I want to use in Europe.
Btw kilrah, maybe when I arrive in Zurich (that's where I'm going to live) I'll come and visit you

Unlocked TMOUS For Sale
I have one unlocked that I might sell if TMobile decides to charge me a restocking fee to return it. Given the demand I was thinking of selling it for $550usd.

T8185= EU, T9193 = AUS, which model is available in Asia?

I'm just a little bit confused. read up on a bunch of posts here that talks about the different models there are right now..
from what i've gathered
US t mobile = pretty much T8185 but with 1gh rom
EU = T8185
AU = t9193 with 850 band frequency coverage
so which version do retailers in asia carry?
thanks all.
cheers.

ok..I want to correct you...in europe the HTC HD2 is T8585

t8585 model

thanks for the help!

Determine Model of Phone?
I just received my HD2 from an internet retailer, and 3g doesn't work with T-mobile US.
In band selection it has 900 and 2100 as UMTS options and no mention of 1700.
How do I determine exactly which model I have in my possession? I'd like to have all the facts before I ***** these guys out and demand a new and correct phone.
I tried to check the radio and rom versions, but I couldn't see way to tell the versions apart.
ROM 2.10.531.1 (82076) WWE
Radio 2.08.50.08_2
Ram size 576mb

If you want a phone that is compatible with TMobile in the US, you need to buy it from... drumroll... TMobile in the US. No one else is compatible on their 3G net.
The TMoUS will have TMobile right across the top of the screen.
The 9193 will have NextG and "T" on the lower third of the back case.
The 8585 will be completely unbranded, as far as I know?

I'm living in Singapore, bought mine from starhub,
The model is T8585 and supports all frequencies [HSPA/WCDMA/GSM/GPRS/EDGE (900/2100/850/900/1800/1900 MHz)] , so it'll work everywhere

Qazz~ said:
I'm living in Singapore, bought mine from starhub,
The model is T8585 and supports all frequencies [HSPA/WCDMA/GSM/GPRS/EDGE (900/2100/850/900/1800/1900 MHz)] , so it'll work everywhere
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You only have 3g on 900 and 2100 with that model, though. All the models have gsm working on all the bands, so you can get regular service everywhere.

mazzarin said:
If you want a phone that is compatible with TMobile in the US, you need to buy it from... drumroll... TMobile in the US. No one else is compatible on their 3G net.
The TMoUS will have TMobile right across the top of the screen.
The 9193 will have NextG and "T" on the lower third of the back case.
The 8585 will be completely unbranded, as far as I know?
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Thanks for the info mazzarin,
Somehow 3g started working.... maybe I just needed to leave the house. 3g was showing in the status bar before, but failing to connect. My phone says T-mobile across the top, and the UPC on the box seems to be a US phone; however, under settings-->wireless control-->phone-->Band it still lists UMTS (2100+900 as an option), which doesn't make sense.
Any idea what this means?

MrBunnyWab said:
Thanks for the info mazzarin,
Somehow 3g started working.... maybe I just needed to leave the house. 3g was showing in the status bar before, but failing to connect. My phone says T-mobile across the top, and the UPC on the box seems to be a US phone; however, under settings-->wireless control-->phone-->Band it still lists UMTS (2100+900 as an option), which doesn't make sense.
Any idea what this means?
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The Telstra 850+2100 phones say the same thing. Just ignore it. The bands are determined by the hardware amplifier circuits on the phone anyway. You have the TMOUS HD2, so you are fine. (Other than their tiny network )

The network may be tiny, but 2mb/s down and 1 up is pretty good. Coming from AT&T service, I'm impressed with the speed. Now I can't just leave any major city

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Qazz~ said:
I'm living in Singapore, bought mine from starhub,
The model is T8585 and supports all frequencies [HSPA/WCDMA/GSM/GPRS/EDGE (900/2100/850/900/1800/1900 MHz)] , so it'll work everywhere
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zarathustrax said:
You only have 3g on 900 and 2100 with that model, though. All the models have gsm working on all the bands, so you can get regular service everywhere.
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k..im confused
here in canada, rogers uses 850/1900 for the 3G
if i get an unbranded T8585 from asia, will it support the 850/1900 for 3G?

kl25 said:
k..im confused
here in canada, rogers uses 850/1900 for the 3G
if i get an unbranded T8585 from asia, will it support the 850/1900 for 3G?
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im not looking this up to double check, ill leave that to you but I think the telstra works in canada.

samsamuel said:
im not looking this up to double check, ill leave that to you but I think the telstra works in canada.
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yea i know about telstra..but as you may also know..its very expensive..close to $850 canadian
maybe i should be more clear with my question..and that's getting a t8585 from hong kong specifically, or anywhere else in china for that matter..

ahh yea, the price factor. well as already mentioned by zarathustrax the t8585 (same in europe as asia, , same phone, same bands )only does UMTS on 900/2100, so no 3g, edge only i'm afraid.

samsamuel said:
ahh yea, the price factor. well as already mentioned by zarathustrax the t8585 (same in europe as asia, , same phone, same bands )only does UMTS on 900/2100, so no 3g, edge only i'm afraid.
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that really sucks...canada is always the slowest at getting good phones...
i guess i just have to wait it out and see if anyone will sell the telstra at a good price..cant believe some ppl spent $900 on that phone... :S

can i use t mobile htc hd2 in australia

hi every one im thinking about buying a tmous htc hd 2 cause of the 1gb rom 576 mb ram , im just wandering if the phone will work in australia 3g , vodafone , i found out download band for voda is 2100 and upload 900
can some one shed any light on this should i buy the tmous htc hd 2 or t8585
thanks in advance

The TMOUS HD2 is actually the least useful of the three varieties to you (TMOUS, Telstra, European/international) - I use a TMOUS in New Zealand, and the gist of it is that it will work absolutely fine once unlocked, but it has a useless second 3G frequency - you'll only be able to use 2100, since the TMOUS uses 1700 as (I think) rather than the more standard 900.
The Telstra variety has 2100/850, and the European HD2 has 2100/900.
So, if you just want the extra ROM space, go for the TMOUS. But if you want better 3G coverage, it depends whether you want Voda or Telstra as a service provider.

can i use t mobile htc hd 2 in australia

hi every one im thinking about buying a tmous htc hd 2 cause of the 1gb rom 576 mb ram , im just wandering if the phone will work in australia 3g , vodafone , i found out download band for voda is 2100 and upload 900
can some one shed any light on this should i buy the tmous htc hd 2 or t8585
thanks in advance

No, The T-Mo US HD2 won't work on those 3g bands. You want the t8585.

Or the 9193. which is the AU model that will work with ATT USA 850 band 3g

thanks for the reply whats the differnece in having 1gb rom

jeewadj said:
thanks for the reply whats the differnece in having 1gb rom
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Rom = The amount of storage on your phone for contacts, music, movies etc.

T9193 - Vodafone Australia
im using the t9193. Im with vodafone. "3G" "H" "E"
I get great speeds

b84 said:
im using the t9193. Im with vodafone. "3G" "H" "E"
I get great speeds
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I'm very surprised to hear that your 9193 locks onto an H or 3G icon with Vodafone. EDGE, sure, but that's 2.5G data, not 3G.
The 9193 supports 3G/HSDPA on 850 and 1900MHz
The 8585 supports 3G/HSDPA on 900 and 2100MHz
Everything I've read about Vodafone points to them using 900 & 2100MHz bands for 3G/HSDPA.

band
i am using 900 2100
i used a cab to add more bands

BAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! ROFLMAO
You're an idiot, stop posting misinformation.

If you use Telstra then you need the t9193 model but if you use any other provider you will need the t8585 model to be able to access the full 3G service, I could be wrong but that's what caught me out.

I am on Vodafone and I have the T8585 with H E 3G & G bands via 900/2100.
gamecore is correct T9193 for Telstra, and T8585 for others eg Vodafone etc...

ok i am new to this but can someone tell me what's the different between
the
T8585 and the T9193 (i know that the T8585 is the one with the 512 rom) so is the T9193 the telstra verson of the HD2?
i am going to america next month and just to make things clear
(i am on optus)
if i want to buy a HD2 with the 1GB ROM it won't work in Aus ?
so should i buy the normal verson of the phone (T8585)?
if i just want to use the phone for call,text,mms (no internet browsing) can i get the 1GB one ? or would i still get the T8585?
so if i want the phone to be able to use the internet(not wifi) "on the go" and check e-mail i will need to get the T8585 right ? ( the one with less rom?)

STHD said:
ok i am new to this but can someone tell me what's the different between
the
T8585 and the T9193 (i know that the T8585 is the one with the 512 rom) so is the T9193 the telstra verson of the HD2?
i am going to america next month and just to make things clear
(i am on optus)
if i want to buy a HD2 with the 1GB ROM it won't work in Aus ?
so should i buy the normal verson of the phone (T8585)?
if i just want to use the phone for call,text,mms (no internet browsing) can i get the 1GB one ? or would i still get the T8585?
so if i want the phone to be able to use the internet(not wifi) "on the go" and check e-mail i will need to get the T8585 right ? ( the one with less rom?)
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STHD,
A brief lesson in mobile phone protocols, and which model supports what:
T8585 & T9193
Worldwide
GSM, 850/900/1800/2100MHz
GPRS, 850/900/1800/2100MHz
EDGE, 850/900/1800/2100MHz
T8585
Australia (Voda, Optus), Europe, Asia
3G/UMTS, 900/2100MHz
HSDPA, 900/2100MHz
T9193
Telstra AU, USA (most), Japan (I think)
3G/UMTS, 850/1900MHz
HSDPA, 850/1900MHz
So,
Both the T8585 & T9193 can use the following services worldwide, on any carrier that uses the GSM (NOT CDMA!) mobile network:
* Calls
* SMS
* MMS, assuming you have some sort of data plan supporting GPRS or better.
* Mobile web & email, but only at GPRS (data rates of 56-114 kbit/s) or EDGE speeds (up to 236.8 kbit/s).
The T9193 supports 3G/HSDPA on 850 and 1900MHz - Telstra & most US carriers use these frequencies for 3G data.
The 8585 supports 3G/HSDPA on 900 and 2100MHz - Most European, Asian and all other Australian providers use these frequencies for 3G data.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Mobile_telecommunications_standards for a heirachical view of the technologies.
Three key points here:
1) You can't (AFAIK) buy the T8585 model from a network provider in the USA. They will all be T9193 models.
2) If you're *visiting* the USA, and indend to to use the phone on Optus when you return, buy the T8585 model from somewhere in Asia or Europe (http://Handtec.co.uk is my personal recommendation). You can still use the phone when you go to the USA for calls, sms, and gprs & edge data, and get full 3G/HSDPA speeds when you come home to Optus.
3) Ignore the 1GB Flash ROM on T9193 model. The T8585 comes with an 8GB SD card - just install all your apps on the card. This has the additional benefit that you don't need to re-install every time you flash another ROM.
Make sense?
Phrak

So basically you need the T8585 for Optus.
If you get the T9193 for optus network you can do everything that the T8585 does but you wont be able to use 3G it will only be 2G or slower for web and emails on your phone.

ok thanks Phark that really help me out working out the issues
just to point something out from Phark post
T8585 Should be T9193/T-mobile verson
Telstra AU, USA (most), Japan (I think)
3G/UMTS, 850/1900MHz
HSDPA, 850/1900MHz
not picking on you (Phark) but just want to make sure everyone gets it or else it will be confusing (am i right?lol)
but another thing is that on the htc website it says that the aus verson (T9193) of hd2 uses "Australia: 850/2100 MHz" i donno if the info is wrong or what...
Also T-mobile and [HD2 US(from PDAdb)comming soon] have 576Mib of Ram which is 100 something more then T8585
So i guess i will get the T8585(Will get that in HK)
Haha and i really like how Phark quote *visiting* USA...but i am really going there Haha
Thanks again Phark and also thanks gamecore

STHD said:
ok thanks Phark that really help me out working out the issues
just to point something out from Phark post
T8585 Should be T9193/T-mobile verson
Telstra AU, USA (most), Japan (I think)
3G/UMTS, 850/1900MHz
HSDPA, 850/1900MHz
not picking on you (Phark) but just want to make sure everyone gets it or else it will be confusing (am i right?lol)
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Ooops! Copy & Paste error ;-) Thanks, have edited my post.
STHD said:
but another thing is that on the htc website it says that the aus verson (T9193) of hd2 uses "Australia: 850/2100 MHz" i donno if the info is wrong or what...
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Unsure about that one, sorry. Everything I've read (up 'till now!) suggests that the T9193 was 850/1900 - *Do* take HTC's word over mine though, you can always claim false advertising against them ;-)
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Also T-mobile and [HD2 US(from PDAdb)comming soon] have 576Mib of Ram which is 100 something more then T8585
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The T8585 *does* have 576MB of RAM, enabled via most ROM Chefs. I'm unsure of the technical changes to enable this, but I've just (double) checked my T8585 HD2 from HK, and it says: "RAM: 576MB; Flash Size: 512MB"
STHD said:
Haha and i really like how Phark quote *visiting* USA...but i am really going there Haha
Thanks again Phark and also thanks gamecore
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LOL, I meant "visiting" in the sense that you weren't moving there permanently ;-)
Glad I could help. Have a safe trip, and good luck buying your phone in HK!
Phrak

Oh so you brought your phone from HK too? is that through the internet?
Or Do you have a shop that you recommend?(cos i know they sell phones everywhere) i live near mongkok and they have a whole street which sell phones
Thanks anyway

hd2 telstra t9193 - Vodafone Australia
Hey Phrak,
This is the cab i used for geting the extra bands
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showpost.php?p=57342&postcount=6
is this the correct band for Vodafone Australia?
UMTS(900+2100)+GSM(900+1800)
If not what should it say???
Is there a hardware difference that the t9193 will not have the correct data connection? Or is it just software?

Interesting CAB - I've just found the same software built into the latest ENERGY ROM I've flashed to my Leo.
More research is needed methinks. I'm more than prepared to be proven wrong on the T9193 supported bands.

will the Australian DHD version work 3G in US AT&T (like HD2 Australian T9193 does)?

will the Australian DHD version work 3G in US AT&T (like HD2 Australian T9193 does)?
it isnt Telstra...
http://news.softpedia.com/news/HTC-Desire-HD-in-Australia-at-Crazy-John-s-Too-163153.shtml
anyone?

ekerbuddyeker said:
it isnt Telstra...
http://news.softpedia.com/news/HTC-Desire-HD-in-Australia-at-Crazy-John-s-Too-163153.shtml
anyone?
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It it's not Telstra, then it will NOT work on AT&T 3G. AT&T 3G requires 850/1900mhz and the DHD's 3G is on 900/2100mhz

also telstra is 850/2100 so ........ it may still not be perfect if you import