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My List of problems

I still love my phone but wondered how many people have noticed the same issues as me, I am hoping for a new patch soon to fix these problem, some have been mentioned in other threads but this is my list.
Call volume is too low
Wifi does not awake properly
battery shows 100% usage when in sleep mode
Screen randomley activates while in call causing call to drop due to touch screen being pressed.
Slight Lag when using the dialler, you can hear the DTMF tones later then you press them.
Charging takes over 3 hours, longer using USB.
When on a call people complain of poor call quality, mostly using bluetooth
Videos on youtube etc out of sync
I would imagine these faults are on everyones phone i would be interested in hearing if anyone has any solutions? I am running 1.6
Also note that about 5 of the above issues could be caused by something using my phone when it shouldn't be, but I cannot find the culprit lol

ronnyuk said:
I still love my phone but wondered how many people have noticed the same issues as me, I am hoping for a new patch soon to fix these problem, some have been mentioned in other threads but this is my list.
Call volume is too low
Wifi does not awake properly
battery shows 100% usage when in sleep mode
Screen randomley activates while in call causing call to drop due to touch screen being pressed.
Slight Lag when using the dialler, you can hear the DTMF tones later then you press them.
Charging takes over 3 hours, longer using USB.
When on a call people complain of poor call quality, mostly using bluetooth
Videos on youtube etc out of sync
I would imagine these faults are on everyones phone i would be interested in hearing if anyone has any solutions? I am running 1.6
Also note that about 5 of the above issues could be caused by something using my phone when it shouldn't be, but I cannot find the culprit lol
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About USB charge, its normal. USB is dont have the same parameters as charger plus as far i remember the USB on the front of a lot of cases dont give the same amount power as the ones at teh back of case. Im not sure how does it look at notebooks.
I didnt had any problems with Youtube, on 3G and on Wifi the videos was playing properly.

I have the same problems.
Battery is down pretty fast and Wifi sometimes looses connection.
Another problem is, that sometimes the phone is loosing connection to a phonecell and has to reconnect. So for a minute my phone isn't online anymore.

Cryson said:
I have the same problems.
Battery is down pretty fast and Wifi sometimes looses connection.
Another problem is, that sometimes the phone is loosing connection to a phonecell and has to reconnect. So for a minute my phone isn't online anymore.
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Yes i have had total loss of mobile network while driving along, even though I know the area is ok.

I share the following problems
Volume is too low (mainly call and podcats) and even more using bluetooth.
Battery is odwn pretty fast even when i'm doing nothing! But I have the phone for few days and didn't read all of teh tips about battery yet.
In the market app (and some other) I need to touch severel time the touch "search" or "enter" in order to validate, it often doen't work the first time.

I only experience the battery problem for the first few days. after a few full battery cycle. my x10 battery last about 48 hours with moderate WiFi browsing. push gmail and a lot of txting.
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and yes I do think the volume ogvtje phone is below average. but I don't see the problem that others are having on this post.
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I share your issues as well. The most annoying for me is the screen randomly activating during calls. Especially it seems when using the headset (posted this else where so im glad im not the only one). Also people I call complain that I sound echoy.
However, at least we have some confirmed updates coming our way as per the official X10 blog. But Q4?? Seems so far away.

oavon said:
I share the following problems
Volume is too low (mainly call and podcats) and even more using bluetooth.
Battery is odwn pretty fast even when i'm doing nothing! But I have the phone for few days and didn't read all of teh tips about battery yet.
In the market app (and some other) I need to touch severel time the touch "search" or "enter" in order to validate, it often doen't work the first time.
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I think you will find that is the screen protector causing the touch issues, it makes it hard to touch in the corners and can be fixed by removing it, although I have kept mine on
I would say most of the problems people are having is phone not going to sleep properly, once this is fixed the phone will be much better.

Pictures taken with X10 are too soft at full zoom
And they look washed ...
Crap camera i guess even at 8Mp.

tuxStyle said:
Pictures taken with X10 are too soft at full zoom
And they look washed ...
Crap camera i guess even at 8Mp.
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well what you are seeing is *digital* zoom, it basically using a smaller area of the sensor and enlarged it.
the camera might not be the best, but is much better than most smart phone
my problem with the x10 so far
-timescape not very smooth
-mediascape is pretty bad
-during a call the screen go on and off (even when using bluetooth)

boshunter said:
well what you are seeing is *digital* zoom, it basically using a smaller area of the sensor and enlarged it.
the camera might not be the best, but is much better than most smart phone
my problem with the x10 so far
-timescape not very smooth
-mediascape is pretty bad
-during a call the screen go on and off (even when using bluetooth)
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Well, my mistake ... not zoom as in camera zoom.
Zoom when i open the image on computer and view at 100% not 1024x768

In call volume is really low, but i think that this is software problem
Install advanced task killer and activate auto kill. then you can see really improvement of battery. The problems with battery are because of applications running in the back

gregy74 said:
In call volume is really low, but i think that this is software problem
Install advanced task killer and activate auto kill. then you can see really improvement of battery. The problems with battery are because of applications running in the back
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I use task killer, that doesn't stop the sleep issue, something is working while the phone is in sleep and keeping the phone awake 100% of the time. i may try formatting the memory card as this seems to help some users.

I disabled the Location thing. the battery improved considerably. i guess it used the cell broadcast function when i had the wifi turned off. and it does that with the screen locked also, but you don't actually need it. so just disabled it.
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I have a problem with wifi connection getting lose and switch to 3g while I know that my home wireless is super good and I didn't have problem before rooting...I heard there is a wifi patch somewhere but I couldn't find anything...anybody knows?
for the battery there is a thread here for setCPU software and how to add profiles, specially having the processor operating at less than 300MHz after 30% battery and when the screen is off helped my battery improvement supergreat at least when battery bellow 30% u will be sure that you are squeezing few extra hours just to use it to make phone calls...what I'm saying it did more than doubling the battery life for me worth trying

For wifi problem i might have figured out the problem when u go to setting > wireless control > wifi setting > then hit the bottom left button there is advance setting (that i never noticed before) where u can set wifi to sleep, feel free to set it to never...im gonna c if this gonna fix my problem
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Everyone complains about low call volume, but I have never noticed it...the actual speaker, for like speaker phone is definately a little quiet at times though.
To the OP, if it says your phone is awake for a large percentage of the time, and you haven't been using it for that much time, then there's probably some app that's not allowing it to sleep. If you can figure out which one it is, it will increase your battery life.

One problem I've just noticed was that there is no way to create groups with contacts. Certainly not a serious issue, but it makes sending a mass text very annoying.
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the call volume improved with the new firmware, wish the camera to be a bit better. I really hate the gmail app for not giving me a list of my email adresess. and yeah the loudspeaker could be a bit louder

Vibrant just now!

just got a vibrant just now, new to the tmobile game and i lvoe the phone because i tryed it out as a demo at t-mobile store. only thign i was scared was about the bar problems which i heard are for osme people not all and gps which is coming in a fix. i just turned on the phone nad i noticed while playing with it the battery notification is off track compared to the real battery% is this a fixable in an update or whats the soultion? also friend of mine said it lags after putting apps on there? any word on that? thanks.

Please use the search function.

Im having 0-2 bars on my phone of siginal! My first t-mobile phone and its a lemon i might just resell it

You should just get an iPhone 4.... you seem more on the level of an apple user.

bigg12x said:
Im having 0-2 bars on my phone of siginal! My first t-mobile phone and its a lemon i might just resell it
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Try holding with your right hand
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Yes the battery level is a common problem, but doesn't affect the phone performance. To see the actual battery level go to settings->about phone or download the t-mobile app my account/my device.
As for the bars, as others have reported the connection still works well even though it may display few or no bars. Again, not a big deal.
As for the gps, I have realized that it works really well OUTSIDE but sucks inside. To test this idea, disable "use wireless networks" in settings->location and security, but leave gps enabled. Then go outside and see how long it takes for your location to lock on in google maps. Then go inside and do the same. I have consistently noticed that the gps locks on accurately and quickly if I am outside, but takes horribly long inside. However, wireless network location compensates for the horrible gps signal when inside.

The battery thing is normal for android (i dont know why android hasnt fixed this yet) there are apps and widgets that can correctly display the percentage.
The signal this is not a big deal, its possible you are in a moderate coverage for tmobile. Do a few test calls, you will notice the call is still flawless.
Its not a lemon

I'm sure there will be some kind of software fix for this in the near future. in the mean time, I suggest downloading an app called "battery indicator" from the market.
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bigg12x said:
Im having 0-2 bars on my phone of siginal! My first t-mobile phone and its a lemon i might just resell it
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The signal is fine but the bar readout is wrong. Have you tried calls? Data? They work fine I'm sure and I know that from experience.

sigeltek said:
You should just get an iPhone 4.... you seem more on the level of an apple user.
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LOL. Classic .....ROLF....
@bigg12x, try doing a complete reset on the phone. It wouldn't hurt. Also, the things you've heard from your friend is pretty dramatic. There's no serious issues...just some software quirks that can be ironed out.

Chalup said:
Yes the battery level is a common problem, but doesn't affect the phone performance. To see the actual battery level go to settings->about phone or download the t-mobile app my account/my device.
As for the bars, as others have reported the connection still works well even though it may display few or no bars. Again, not a big deal.
As for the gps, I have realized that it works really well OUTSIDE but sucks inside. To test this idea, disable "use wireless networks" in settings->location and security, but leave gps enabled. Then go outside and see how long it takes for your location to lock on in google maps. Then go inside and do the same. I have consistently noticed that the gps locks on accurately and quickly if I am outside, but takes horribly long inside. However, wireless network location compensates for the horrible gps signal when inside.
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Or the battery app which shows the Percentage on the notifications bar

so an update is possible to fix that signal bar display

Chalup said:
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As for the gps, I have realized that it works really well OUTSIDE but sucks inside. To test this idea, disable "use wireless networks" in settings->location and security, but leave gps enabled. Then go outside and see how long it takes for your location to lock on in google maps. Then go inside and do the same. I have consistently noticed that the gps locks on accurately and quickly if I am outside, but takes horribly long inside. However, wireless network location compensates for the horrible gps signal when inside.
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i've never had a dedicated GPS unit (Garmin, Tom-tom & magellan) that would get a signal inside my house - i've always been told GPS is line of sight, and anything from house roof, tree cover and heavy overcast or fog would block GPS signal - considering those satellites don't have onboard generators,suspect the signal they're shooting is that great in terms of wattage

smh @ samsung not even addressing the problem and how they will take care of it wow what a company!

Chalup said:
As for the gps, I have realized that it works really well OUTSIDE but sucks inside. To test this idea, disable "use wireless networks" in settings->location and security, but leave gps enabled. Then go outside and see how long it takes for your location to lock on in google maps. Then go inside and do the same. I have consistently noticed that the gps locks on accurately and quickly if I am outside, but takes horribly long inside. However, wireless network location compensates for the horrible gps signal when inside.
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You have obviously never used GPS before. If it connects at all when you are inside, you are ahead of the game. I have a $600 Garmin Nuvi that will not connect when I am sitting in my car in the garage.

i am able to make calls even showing zero bars of service, its not a big deal. the phone's other attributes out weight a single flaw

I am in BUM-FU## NC tonight, in a mill built in the 1800's with 22 inch brick walls... and I made a phone call perfectly. My parents live in a converted old River Mill.
This phone and T Mobile rock. My brother (iPhone), mother and father (Motorola RAZRs) could not make a phone call as their phones display "No Service".
HAHAHAHA

The bar reading on Vibrant looks too conservative.
I did a side by side comparison at the corp store with my nexus one and found Vibrant has one fewer bar than nexus one.

[Q] I hate flaws.

I don't know if it's just the vibrant, but the Market takes awhile to open (it was way quicker with my G1) and in some cases, just doesn't work because it says there's no connection.
Also when I web browse the screen gets really bright even when I turned off the setting to analyze the darkness to adjust the brightness.
Is there any fixes for these problems? Mines is stock, no homebrew or whatever.

RedJackson said:
Also when I web browse the screen gets really bright even when I turned off the setting to analyze the darkness to adjust the brightness.
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Turn off power saving mode in display and sound options.
Your other problem can't be fixed unless you root and install lag fix. Or get a better connection is latency is your true error.

Your browser may just have the brightness setting turned all the way up. Keep in mind it is separate from the brightness setting for the rest of the phone. in the browser press menu, then more, then brightness setting

zaduma said:
Your other problem can't be fixed unless you root and install lag fix. Or get a better connection is latency is your true error.
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That sucks. So there will never be an official fix for it? I can't believe that my crappy G1 could connect to the market faster and with better connection than my Vibrant. Can't have it all I guess.
and thanks babyface, that took care of that annoying problem.

RedJackson said:
That sucks. So there will never be an official fix for it? I can't believe that my crappy G1 could connect to the market faster and with better connection than my Vibrant. Can't have it all I guess.
and thanks babyface, that took care of that annoying problem.
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I'm not sure it's a Vibrant problem. I can connect to the Market with no problem. That's using wifi or 3G.

Don't have the market problem
Browser had its own brightness settings
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I had this exact same problem. It fixed itself after I updated my sim card to the sim that came with it. Might wanna try that if you haven't.

RedJackson said:
That sucks. So there will never be an official fix for it? I can't believe that my crappy G1 could connect to the market faster and with better connection than my Vibrant. Can't have it all I guess.
and thanks babyface, that took care of that annoying problem.
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My Vibrant is 5x faster with the Market than my G1. Its night and day, maybe its your connection??

My market was painfully slow for the first day or two, cleared itself up with no change on my behalf. I was worried too, luckily AppBrain FWI got me through that rough patch. Nice and speedy now.

Impressions after a week...

A lot of us have had the device for at least week now so it would be a good time to post impressions after a bit more hands on time. I’ll start...
10 days in I’m still glad I got it but there are plenty of things that could be improved. I’ve been on HTC phones (Desire, Desire Z) before this running at different times standard HTC Sense ROMs as well as various versions of Cyanogen Mod and AOSP based ROMs. My views after 2 weeks of use:
* Loving the fact that Samsung appears to be treating this almost like a developer phone (ala Nexus) in terms of open bootloader, availability of source code etc. I’ve said my goodbyes to HTC precisely because of this.
* Based on the frequency of updates Samsung also appears to be focused on addressing issues. They are one if the first out of the gates for Gingerbread updates to their existing devices so I’m hoping they continue to focus on delivering on the latest versions of Android.
* Touchwiz is not as invasive as HTC’s Sense. It improves on stock android in many ways. My first Samsung phone so I can’t really speak of improvements over previous versions of Samsung ROMs but so far I don’t hate TouchWiz but I do find that they seem to take a lot of inspiration from Apple even when the standard Android implementation is better in some cases (I didn’t hate HTC Sense either but I did find it too far from stock for my liking). Having said that there are some totally brain dead decisions that Samsung appear to have taken which I just don’t get:
1) Default home screen on the left instead of the middle. Why copy Apple on this one when Android’s default makes so much more sense. I love having frequently used apps with a swipe to the right and an agenda widget on the left so I can get to both with a single swipe. Now I have to pick one.
2) Fixed icons at the bottom. I understand Phone and Apps being fixed but not messaging and contacts. I’d like to change those - hell, even Apple lets you change those. *** NEVERMIND *** See posts below. It CAN be edited.
3) Lock screen - talk about making something worse - this one takes the cake. Thank god for widget locker.
4) Dialer logs - I don’t want my SMS messages to show up on my phone dialer logs. There is no option to just view all calls without the rest of the stuff cluttering it up. (Yes I know I can switch to Dialer One but apart from this one major issue I actually like the default Samsung dialer).
* Wireless - Everything wireless about this phone has issues. May be a function of how thin it is but my experience so far:
1) Phone - Much improved after the latest firmware updates but data connection can take a while to latch on when moving out of WiFi coverage and sometimes just drops out for 5-10 minutes at a time for no apparent reason (even when the phone shows five bars in a strong signal area).
2) Bluetooth - The headset I have is not working well at all. Quality seems fine but every few seconds drops out or gets noisy for a second or so. The same headset works perfectly well with the HTC devices as well as with an iPhone.
3) GPS - Sometimes flawless but lock time is definitely a lot slower than the HTC devices. It also has a tendancy to lose lock a lot easier than the HTC devices. Other times it jumps around all over the place before getting a lock. Lots of weird behaviour here.
4) WiFi - Where other phones get weak coverage this one gets none. If you have strong WiFi signals everywhere you use the device this is not an issue. 5 Ghz also performs significantly worse than 2 Ghz.
* Battery life - It appears this phone has only 2 gears. A low gear for phone / SMS / push mail / browsing where battery life is excellent but then kicks into hyper-turbo mode if you use Flash video, games or anything taxing where it burns through battery life in no time. You can easily get through a whole day with power to spare if you stick to only the basic activities but best to use everything else while plugged in.
The reality is even with all these issues, I couldn’t give this device up. The power and speed coupled with the slim form factor and gorgeous screen are just too damn impressive and all the problems pale in significance. I might have had buyers remorse if the HTC Sensation was coming with an open bootloader and a slimmer profile but at the moment I don’t see anything that compares. I’m just hoping Samsung can fix some of the problems I’ve listed in software.

Regarding fixed items at the bottom: you can edit them from within the applications screen.
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2) Fixed icons at the bottom. I understand Phone and Apps being fixed but not messaging and contacts. I’d like to change those - hell, even Apple lets you change those.
You can change those - Go to app drawer-> menu -> edit -> and drop the app you wants.

EleCtrOx666 said:
You can change those - Go to app drawer-> menu -> edit -> and drop the app you wants.
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Works! Thanks

Interesting thoughts indeed.... I hope there is some help out there ^^

Here's a solution for 1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13825680#post13825680

Nice honest and informative post. Most of the issues will hopefully be fixable once we start getting some custom ROMs I'm hoping. Or hopefully fixes direct from Samsung in regards to GPS, WiFi, and 3G. I guess time will tell.

gstar_raw said:
Nice honest and informative post. Most of the issues will hopefully be fixable once we start getting some custom ROMs I'm hoping. Or hopefully fixes direct from Samsung in regards to GPS, WiFi, and 3G. I guess time will tell.
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Very puzzling that Sammy would have issues in key connectivity areas on such a high profile phone. Wonder if they''re all antenna related? As you say, hopefully not, and it's all solvable with SW.

Homescreen order
C'mon guys - it's not that hard to reorder your homescreens...
Just pinch zoom (helicopter mode) longpress & drag.....
Hope this helps you...
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EleCtrOx666 said:
Here's a solution for 1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13825680#post13825680
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Thanks! Will try it.
BatterBits said:
C'mon guys - it's not that hard to reorder your homescreens...
Just pinch zoom (helicopter mode) click & drag.....
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The issue isn't re-ordering. It's changing the default home screen from the left (on TouchWiz) to the middle (As on stock Android / Sense etc)

Abra_Cadabra said:
Thanks! Will try it.
The issue isn't re-ordering. It's changing the default home screen from the left (on TouchWiz) to the middle (As on stock Android / Sense etc)
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in the old TW, it allowed users to change the default home screen. I have no idea what happened to the new TW

Abra_Cadabra said:
Thanks! Will try it.
The issue isn't re-ordering. It's changing the default home screen from the left (on TouchWiz) to the middle (As on stock Android / Sense etc)
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Doh!
Sorry, Didn't quite catch that - I understand now where you're coming from.
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After my first day with this phone I switched to the the ADW Launcher, Samsung really didn't think the TouchWiz launcher through - not only the default homescreen being on the left, but also the fact that Apps in the drawer aren't sorted alphabetically.

I used to own the Samsung Galaxy Vibrant. It's disturbing that Samsung is still not getting the GPS working right!

briansj said:
I used to own the Samsung Galaxy Vibrant. It's disturbing that Samsung is still not getting the GPS working right!
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My gps works like a charm
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I'm on the latest firmware but it's still pretty buggy...
I've tried switching to launcher pro but I still get crash reboots and loss of sound.
Last night I entered the pin and the phone just reboots.
I also loose the clicks on the pin screen. When this happens you have to reboot go get audio back...I tried playing an mp4 video with no sound when it was in this state and it just said unable to play. Of course it worked fine after a reboot...
So pretty buggy at the moment

mine has no bugs or what so ever, after 2 weeks of used i can never compare it to other phones performance either android or iOS,i used both before but this one is simply way above them..

no built in stock music widget was a dissapointment for me as well as the horrible lock screen style and the lag during wakeup..apart from that this phone is really amazing..but touchwiz needs some serious thought...
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Agreed that this phone is as speedy and steady as the HTC Desire and iPhone 4 that I have owned. The trick to all these phones is that if you play around too much with settings,tweaks,launchers you are likely to get problems.

Features and disadvantages

So, this is my first day with this phone, but I have already discovered a lot of things. I will keep this thread updated, though, as I discover more of it on my journey to enlightenment.
Also bear in mind that just before this, I was the owner of an LG G2, so some of the things will be more of a comparison on the user friendliness LG offers.
Key features
Size: At least for me, this is the sweet spot. “Once you go Compact, you’ll never go back.” :laugh:
Glass: Feeling. It’s a smooth surface. You’ll want to be able to embrace it all you can all day.
Border: Grip usefulness. If you hold your smart phone from its borders, it’ll be a sure bet it’d never let go of you.
Microphone: The other end of the call hears what it’s said so clearly, it’s scary. Once it sounded as if the person was on the ring.
Camera: Have yet to try under low-light conditions, but at noon, this camera shined. I was complimented at wok for its effective resolution.
Middle ground
Buttons layout: Hardware and software buttons. I don’t know you, but I think this phone was made for left handed. Whenever I use my right hand, I don’t know, I feel my thump is all cramped in there trying to change volume, while if I use my left hand, oh, boy, it all feels natural, and no more cramping. The good side of this is I’ve learned to use my left hand more. Definitely the best uni-hand setup is that of the LG G2. With buttons behind the phone, both hands are equally free to work with them.
Front speakers: Sound is loud, but I found it to be muffled. I can only guess it’s due to its water/dust proof nature. To be honest, I never use the phone’s own speakers that much. Almost never on any phone I’ve owned so far.
Applications: I totally hate it they have bundled some of the worst widgets/applications I’ve seen, ever. “What’s New”... really? Yet, there are some useful or nice one, at least to me: Album, Walkman, PlayStation, and others.
Disadvantages
Glass: Coating is awful. I once a long time ago thought the my HTC Desire was the King of smudges and fingerprints. Guess what? We got a new champion...! Seriously, I’m thankful I bought the White version,which makes the back of the phone appear as clear as it could be, while only the front suffers totally from it. In just five minutes of constant usage (like in a game, or scrolling and archiving Tweets), the front glass was kinda “oily”, and you could see smudges everywhere. Also you know what? It’s slippery has hell. Never, ever, before, have I encountered a surface as slipper as these glasses. Words cannot describe how much that is.
LED Flash: It’s the worst. As for hardware, the darn thing “bleeds” light before it even leaves the case of the phone. I mean, Sony, seriously? This is totally unacceptable. I’m even thinking on returning it if only because of this. I tried the Flashlight notification widget, and the Torch application itself: total disaster. They are so dim, it looks as if they didn’t want us to use the “phone” as a flashlight. Yet, I discovered, the LED Flash can go even brighter. I noticed it while taking a picture in low-light conditions.
System navigation bar: No way to change it, even with some default presets. The LG G2 had this. For example I don’t use the Recents button much, but I do A LOT “switch back to previous application” option back on my HTC Desire with an application that would let me set such things up, like behavior when long pressing such buttons as well.
Permanent notifications: For some reason, some applications like Lifelog and My Data Manager create a kind of immortal notification on the Notifications Bar.
I’m pretty tired at the moment. I’ll try to update tomorrow morning with what’s missing or to try to answer other questions. Feel free to comment your own while I do so.

We're in the same boat bud.... Coming from a lg g2 to a white z3 compact. Feeling about the same too. I really would like to know your take on the battery life as this is one of the main reasons for me to switch. But it's still early so take your time and let us know.

Well, the LG G2 was a battery power house on its own. I made it to 72 hours once, but using only LTE and stock AT&T ROM. Wi-Fi disabled.
I’ll report back this weekend when I reach 1%.

Wow! Mine never reached 50 hours.

Buttons
I got my compact about a month ago, I love it
The only annoyance I see is the location of the buttons on the right side, when holding the phone during a call my fingers struggle to find a spot to hold the phone.
I think they should move the power and volume buttons further up

Falconzar said:
I got my compact about a month ago, I love it
The only annoyance I see is the location of the buttons on the right side, when holding the phone during a call my fingers struggle to find a spot to hold the phone.
I think they should move the power and volume buttons further up
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I never had such a problem. In the end it will never be okay for everyone, since we're all different.

mab71 said:
We're in the same boat bud.... Coming from a lg g2 to a white z3 compact. Feeling about the same too. I really would like to know your take on the battery life as this is one of the main reasons for me to switch. But it's still early so take your time and let us know.
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Alright, just reached 1% this morning. Check the attached images for details.
So, details of my analysis:
I didn’t use STAMINA mode. I will do so on my next testing session.
Most connectivity services were enabled all the time: NFC, mobile data and Wi-Fi. Also my preferred data option was LTE first, so take that into account as well. Bluetooth was disabled. I had the Location-based Wi-Fi option, so Wi-Fi would turn off if I wasn’t near any of my saved Wi-Fi locations. I think this is one of those smart options. I like it.
Looks like Facebook applications, it seems no matter which one, don’t do smart push notifications. It is ALWAYS using background data checking. I’ll be sure to disable Facebook on STAMINA mode next time. I use WhatsApp, but WhatsApp looks like it knows how to properly work with Push Notifications. That is, it’s not a battery drainer.
Kind of the same thing for the Swarm application.
Some applications consume data and hence battery only because of some “active” widgets I got on my home screens, like Walkman. I will profile and optimize them accordingly. I pretty much left all the widgets there from stock start up. Only deleted What’s New widget.
You see that the screen is what took most of the battery, yet I find it strange it doesn’t really indicate the applications I was using precisely. I mean, of course the screen was needed so I could see the applications, but I find it weird that, for example, I navigated through the Facebook application for like an hour, yet neither the video watching nor scrolling seemed to have taken a battery hit according to the Battery usage diagnostics. I need to dig deeper.
I did some gaming, but it was a lightweight game, Bubble Blast 2. I will try some more serious gaming later on. I’m setting up my old MyBoy! GBA emulator like I had it on my previous phone. It’s just that I live in another city from before, and now the commuting time is shorter, which was mostly the time when I used it.
Alright, that’s it for battery report.
I will sit down this weekend and try to truly optimize my work flow this time, so next tests are, as much as they can be, more accurate.
I’d wish more people commented. I’m truly offended no reviewers ANYWHERE I’ve read (outside these forums, I mean) have commented on things like the bleeding LED flash, the REAL slippery status of the glass (where they have mentioned it, they make it sound as a minor thing, and that it is NOT) and stuff like that.
Thanks!

No, THANK YOU! A very good and detailed review on battery life. I will keep checking in here to follow your findings. Thanks again.

Hello back.
I’ll be honest, I didn’t quite finish my whole homework. It’s been 2 days, 7 hours of battery running (29% left), I’ll admit most of it the device has been idle, so:
I didn’t fully optimize my workflow.
Haven’t reached 1% yet.
Still, I wanted to report some things I’ve noticed:
Wi-Fi drains your battery like hell. Even with the location-based settings, forget it. It’s better to enable it only for application updates or when you need to download something big. Leave even the weather updates to your mobile network.
Can’t tell for real if 4G (HSPA+)consumes less battery than LTE, to be honest. I’m always on LTE, and it is awesome.
Enable Ultra-STAMINA mode when you go to sleep. It’s a huge saver, and seriously, if you want to sleep, disable interruptions. Probably its activation can be automated with something like IFTTT or Tasker to be enabled at midnight.
Not exactly sure if the Extended standby option of the normal STAMINA mode actually works. Supposedly it disables Mobile and Wi-Fi networks when the screen is off, but whenever I turn it on, the network icons are there immediately, like they’ve never been disabled. At least Wi-Fi icon should take a second or two to appear, instead of being immediately there.
Disabled Lifelog, which was taking a lot of battery after the Screen.
Alright, that’s it for now. Let’s keep walking the path.

On my Z3c the WiFi doesn't drain the battery.. Odd. For the disabling / enabling it's super fast because of the integration of the chip
For example my SBH-80 connects in one second top or even less when my s4 needs 4 or 5 seconds to do the same. Even on the Z Ultra it takes up to 2 seconds.
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Greg2Lu said:
On my Z3c the WiFi doesn't drain the battery.. Odd. For the disabling / enabling it's super fast because of the integration of the chip
For example my SBH-80 connects in one second top or even less when my s4 needs 4 or 5 seconds to do the same. Even on the Z Ultra it takes up to 2 seconds.
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Hmm... well, to me, compared to having Mobile data enabled, Wi-Fi drains the battery more.
Nice to know about the instant connection. My package also came with an SBH20. Gotta try what you said.
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KaOSoFt said:
Hmm... well, to me, compared to having Mobile data enabled, Wi-Fi drains the battery more.
Nice to know about the instant connection. My package also came with an SBH20. Gotta try what you said.
Thanks.
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What's an SBH20?
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KaOSoFt said:
Hmm... well, to me, compared to having Mobile data enabled, Wi-Fi drains the battery more.
Nice to know about the instant connection. My package also came with an SBH20. Gotta try what you said.
Thanks.
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What, you got a SBH-20 (FYI mab71 it's a Bluetooth Handset ) IN your package ? In the french package the isn't even a pair of Sony MH-750 for the headset, it's just a old pair of headphone that came from '90
It's odd about the WiFi / LTE Because the LTE is known to drain more battery than WiFi in most situation. Do you have a good WiFi signal ? Maybe you could try to change the canal on your modem to optimize your signal, if it become stronger it would be better for the phone and then not pumping too much. But 2-3% a night is not so much anyway

Greg2Lu said:
What, you got a SBH-20 (FYI mab71 it's a Bluetooth Handset ) IN your package ? In the french package the isn't even a pair of Sony MH-750 for the headset, it's just a old pair of headphone that came from '90
It's odd about the WiFi / LTE Because the LTE is known to drain more battery than WiFi in most situation. Do you have a good WiFi signal ? Maybe you could try to change the canal on your modem to optimize your signal, if it become stronger it would be better for the phone and then not pumping too much. But 2-3% a night is not so much anyway
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****! Mine is the old 90s one

I've also come from the g2.had the z3c for over a month now and I do miss a few things. The g2 screen was simply awesome and the led flash light was blinding. The battery is better for me on the z3c, I always have stamina turned on. Unplug at 7 am and by midnight I can still be at 85%. That's with just a bit of usage though. It's also better when I really hammer the battery too (ingress)
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For instance, in the Italian Package, there is a MH-750 headset AND a and OTG cable. I'm not jocking at all, I was astonished when i saw this, especially when the price is lower than for the French people !
I've received today the MDR-NC31EM, it's worth the money, really (30-35 bucks)

Yeah, it might be the signal is bad (although it appears full), but in all instances I’ve witnessed, Wi-Fi drains more battery than my LTE.
Going back to STAMINA, I find its behavior unreliable. I enabled the Extended standby, and I made sure to exclude Facebook from the White listed applications to use background data connection, yet I still keep getting notifications from it. Also on the Developer options, in Process Stats, Facebook keeps getting a 100% runtime, mostly from its MqttPushService service.
I think I will still keep STAMINA on all the time, but I find it weird. I will search these forums for other people’s experience with it, otherwise it’d be wise to create a new Thread just to research into this.
By the way, Greg2Lu, no, the SBH-20 didn’t come IN the package. I bought my phone from my country’s online Sony Store. I paid more than USA price for it, but I thought it was normal imports system ripping me off, which isn’t unusual in my country, but I wanted the phone anyways (and the warranty, should I need it and receive it). What happened was that I received three packages with my purchase: Sony Xperia Z3 Compact (White), an SBH-20 headset, and a 5000 mAh CycleEnergy portable charger. The attached invoice mentioned the correct prices for each item. I would have preferred if they had simply sold me the phone for what it was, instead of bundling me with stuff I didn’t need and making me pay for it. The phone box DID come with a set of MH410c, though, but I bet they are crap, and I already got a good headset anyways.

KaOSoFt said:
Yeah, it might be the signal is bad (although it appears full), but in all instances I’ve witnessed, Wi-Fi drains more battery than my LTE.
Going back to STAMINA, I find its behavior unreliable. I enabled the Extended standby, and I made sure to exclude Facebook from the White listed applications to use background data connection, yet I still keep getting notifications from it. Also on the Developer options, in Process Stats, Facebook keeps getting a 100% runtime, mostly from its MqttPushService service.
I think I will still keep STAMINA on all the time, but I find it weird. I will search these forums for other people’s experience with it, otherwise it’d be wise to create a new Thread just to research into this.
By the way, Greg2Lu, no, the SBH-20 didn’t come IN the package. I bought my phone from my country’s online Sony Store. I paid more than USA price for it, but I thought it was normal imports system ripping me off, which isn’t unusual in my country, but I wanted the phone anyways (and the warranty, should I need it and receive it). What happened was that I received three packages with my purchase: Sony Xperia Z3 Compact (White), an SBH-20 headset, and a 5000 mAh CycleEnergy portable charger. The attached invoice mentioned the correct prices for each item. I would have preferred if they had simply sold me the phone for what it was, instead of bundling me with stuff I didn’t need and making me pay for it. The phone box DID come with a set of MH410c, though, but I bet they are crap, and I already got a good headset anyways.
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Go to settings, data usage, scroll down until you find both facebook and Facebook messenger and untick allow background data. This will stop facebook from updating.
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[*]Permanent notifications: For some reason, some applications like Lifelog and My Data Manager create a kind of immortal notification on the Notifications Bar.
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dude, just deactivate it for these apps, its a checkbox in the app details. Confirmed working for Life Log, thanks for this tip anyway
IMHO, its not an upgrade from G2.

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Go to settings, data usage, scroll down until you find both facebook and Facebook messenger and untick allow background data. This will stop facebook from updating.
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No, I don’t want to disable background data checking forever, that’s why I set specific rules for STAMINA (only when screen is off), problem is somehow Facebook applications seem to skip that.
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dude, just deactivate it for these apps, its a checkbox in the app details. Confirmed working for Life Log, thanks for this tip anyway
IMHO, its not an upgrade from G2.
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I see what you mean. I found another way to disable it through Settings -> Personalization -> Manage notifications.
And yes, it is definitely not an upgrade. I traded screen resolution for more battery (or at least a longer lasting phone), but boy, I couldn’t be happier. A day of full usage, chatting and video and stuff, 18 hours. That’s awesome.
I’m gonna be keeping this baby for a long time.