[CLOSED/G2] Missing 2GB memory - G2 and Desire Z General

Ok I've read countless post about the lack of memery on the g2 that was promised has any one contacted t-mobile to get an official response or answer as to why so much of the 4gb memory is missing I'm waiting til the 6th to get mine but all the talk of memory missing has me second guessing
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T-Mobile's response is that it is not missing, but allocated 1GB to system, 1GB to OTA, and 2GB to user. They cannot explain why the system only shows 2.1GiB, but insist that 4GB are there even if we cannot see it, access it, or even find it with root.

there are indications the "missing 2GB" are there - just not recognized or reported by 2.2
see my post in the other memory thread for the links

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Internal memory. 8GB?

This video review says it has "8 gigs of internal memory"
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1911516/htc_touch_hd/
Well, he obviously missed two words: "up to" ... HTC has the specs on their web page.
Eriol
He certainly says it has 8 gigs of internal memory but as far as I am aware it has a 512mb rom and is expandable with microSD, interesting but I would bet that he is wrong
Wow oh wow, 8GB internal Memory
Let's hope that it's should have internal memory, and this video is not a fake make up...
HTC plans to ship the phone with a 8GB SD card in the box.
http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/09/18/htc-officially-announces-touch-hd-3g-and-viva-devices
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Well, he obviously missed two words: "up to" ... HTC has the specs on their web page.
Eriol
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I don't hope so...
I was planning on atleast 16 or even better 32 gigs in the near future...
badaas said:
HTC plans to ship the phone with a 8GB SD card in the box.
http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/09/18/htc-officially-announces-touch-hd-3g-and-viva-devices
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i am sorry, but this press-release is garbage: quad-hand telephone, 8 MB SD Card.... you should remember that anybody able to type on a keyboard is allowed to post a press release on internet! If it was written by somebody knowledgeable, he didn't take the time to read what he himself had written....
...i only believe to information posted on this forum...
Haha, yes that's awesome. A quad-hand phone, so only for people to share with a friend?
pzucchel said:
i am sorry, but this press-release is garbage: quad-hand telephone, 8 MB SD Card.... you should remember that anybody able to type on a keyboard is allowed to post a press release on internet! If it was written by somebody knowledgeable, he didn't take the time to read what he himself had written....
...i only believe to information posted on this forum...
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well if you believe it HAS 8GB internal, over stated it HAS a 8GB SD card shipping, then believe away!
my 2 cents: it doesn't have 8 Gb internal, it doesn't have an SD card.
...It has a microSD SLOT SD 2.0 compatible where - today - you can put an 8 Gb micro SDHC card (....which i already have) and, in the future, up to 32 GB max capacity...
If - for commercial reasons - they would add a microSD card to any unit i would be happy but i doubt it: i already paid my blackstone in www.digitec.ch and this is what they expect to sell and i expect to buy:
Internal Memory: 288 MB RAM, 512 MB ROM
Memory Expansion: microSDHC
...which is not different from official HTC specifications!!!!
...and remember that they need to differentiate from the Iphone and if they would put 8 GB "ONLY" then "smart reviewers" will start say "the iphone 3g has more memory"...
Said this - this is just common sense. I have no direct information apart from HTC and vendors.

Is App Storage Limit a thing of the past?

http://mobile.engadget.com/2010/01/06/googles-got-a-plan-for-overcoming-androids-app-storage-limit/
If you had storage limit before, you could root your phone and do apps2sd. You'll be able to do the same with the N1. Google's just making it official for non-daring people soon.
But no one at XDA really ever had a storage limit
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If you had storage limit before, you could root your phone and do apps2sd. You'll be able to do the same with the N1. Google's just making it official for non-daring people soon.
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Cool. With 32GB storage card this should'nt be an issue then. Currently my music alone takes close to 20GB on my 3GS.
Is anybody using a 32GB storage card yet?
I haven't found one for sale yet. Only 16GB.
I rarely listen to any of the music on my 8B/C6 card. Pandora, and hopefully someday - XM, keep me in-tune.
-bZj
with that much memory there is no need to do apps2sd- cyanogen has even stated as such. My magic has 228MB i think and i have about 150 apps on it and still at least 30% free.....
To the one who already have a N1: How much internal memory is free after a clean factory reset (Hard reset)?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614884
Yeah... I currently have a 512mb ext partition on my sdcard in my Dream, and I have 200+ apps, and I'm not even close to thinking about getting close to running out of room. Until we start seeing apps that are 10mb+ on the Market (and I mean lots of those apps), we are NEVER going to worry about running out of room for apps on the N1. 512mb for apps is more than overkill. And, I'm sure we may see more huge apps on the Market in the future, but with Google releasing "official apps2sd", the answer to your question is yes. Forget about app size. Install anything and everything you want. You'll never run out of room.
We'll not have 512 MB for apps in the N1, just about 150 MB are free to use after a hardreset by the user, the rest is filled by os and other stuff.
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We'll not have 512 MB for apps in the N1, just about 150 MB are free to use after a hardreset by the user, the rest is filled by os and other stuff.
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Of course not the entire on-board memory is available to apps. Part of it is already filled. the point is.... it's a ridiculously huge amount of storage, however you cut it. By the time you fill it up (which will be a looong time), we'll have the official apps on sd from Google.
Hope so, and if not I have to root the N1
Using System monitor I have
Memory usage: Available:212.0MB
Used: 113.0 MB
Storage: system:542.0MB
Used: 214.0MB
I probably have 150+ apps, I haven't learned to rely on the Market to get apps, I just keep DL'ing more.
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To the one who already have a N1: How much internal memory is free after a clean factory reset (Hard reset)?
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191MB's is what mine said after a factory reset.
That should be sufficient, at least for the moment. Before I root my N1 I want to get used to Android as I'm a former Win mobile user. Yes, I'm a Traitor, and I love to be one
I think that until Android inherently supports apps2sd, apps will not develop beyond a certain point. For example, how many apps do you see that are more than 5MB? People are afraid to download large files. And why on earth do people keep saying that apps2sd isn't necessary on the N1? It has less app storage space available to it than my myTouch. If it was needed on the myTouch then it is needed even more on the N1. I have less than 200MB available for apps, data AND cache. That is appalling on a device that is this good. It basically took a really great piece of hardware and used it as a toilet by adding so little storage. So even though I will be able to use apps2sd, it does nothing to advance the platform as far as super-apps (like those 100MB games for the iPhone I keep hearing about) are concerned. Google need to implement what my six-year old 100MHZ WinMo phone currently has. For shame Google, for shame.
I have 198Mb free after a hard reset.
Strange we're all getting different readings..........
joeavery2 said:
Using System monitor I have
Memory usage: Available:212.0MB
Used: 113.0 MB
Storage: system:542.0MB
Used: 214.0MB
I probably have 150+ apps, I haven't learned to rely on the Market to get apps, I just keep DL'ing more.
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For the record, System Monitor from the Market reads the internal memory incorrectly. What it says in the Settings menu under SD Card and Phone Storage is correct. Try adding, for example, more than 200MB to the internal memory (I do this with a test script I have). You will get a write error since there is no space left on the device. After all is said and done, there are ONLY 200MB available for apps, data and cache, which is not nearly enough. And you will never see 10MB+ apps on the regular basis until Google changes the storage capacity. The apps don't come first. The storage capability does.
I just don't understand why people keep saying that storage issue are a things of the past. If anything, it's gotten worse since the myTouch 3G which had more free storage than the N1.
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And you will never see 10MB+ apps on the regular basis until Google changes the storage capacity. The apps don't come first. The storage capability does.
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Agreed!
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I just don't understand why people keep saying that storage issue are a things of the past. If anything, it's gotten worse since the myTouch 3G which had more free storage than the N1.
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I think what this thread is referring to is the fact that the Android engineers mentioned in the Nexus One conference that they are planning to do Apps2SD officially in an upcoming release. Once that happens then storage problems will really be a thing of the past and we will start seeing many more media rich apps on the Market.
The fact that the N1 has less user storage than the myTouch is probably because they knew this was coming when they planned the N1's default partitions and decided that they'd rather release the N1 geared more towards more space for future OS upgrades rather than more space for the soon-to-be-obsolete on-phone app storage...
I got a low space warning today on my N1. I think I had 16MB free, 97 apps installed. I freed up some space, and now have 87 apps with 43MB free.
The N1 does 'not' have unlimited storage space, and A2SD, although not as nessesary as on the G1, would still definitely be an asset. We all thought the 512MB ROM meant tons of space for apps, but not when more than half is already used out of the box.
Just a quick reminder to keepyour Market Cache cleared and your Browser Cache cleared. together they can rack up quite a chunk of internal memory unless you use a cache clearing app like eRay etc
Dayz xxx

[Q] Is 256 MB of RAM low ?

give me your opinions about the Samsung Focus RAM
According to Microsoft, the RAM is 512.
Not sure who to believe MS, or the general interweb information.
M.
I emailed Samsung PR and they said it will have 512MB of RAM.
Thank you all guys
you gave me hope!!!!!!
ryotgz said:
I emailed Samsung PR and they said it will have 512MB of RAM.
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Nice one, thanks!
Molal said:
Nice one, thanks!
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Yea I just hope they didn't get it confused with the ROM size... AT&T has a PDF spec sheet that says 256MB. Only time will tell I guess.
Well I emailed Samsung PR again and got a response that makes me weary about the 512MB of RAM email I received. I asked how much ROM space (not storage space) the phone will have and got 8GB. I even stated in the email not to confuse with the 8GB of user storage. So it could in fact have 512MB ROM, 256MB RAM. Man, I hope Microsoft's WP7 website is right.
If that's the case, I may have to get the Surround even though I don't want to...
ryotgz said:
Well I emailed Samsung PR again and got a response that makes me weary about the 512MB of RAM email I received. I asked how much ROM space (not storage space) the phone will have and got 8GB. I even stated in the email not to confuse with the 8GB of user storage. So it could in fact have 512MB ROM, 256MB RAM. Man, I hope Microsoft's WP7 website is right.
If that's the case, I may have to get the Surround even though I don't want to...
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That's exactly my line of thinking - surround instead of focus if the focus only has 256mb of RAM.
But, watching the videos of the focus it looks as fluid as the other 512mb RAM phones.....maybe 256mb is all you need. Particularly given the fact that the Windows OS spreads across RAM (inc. the memory card).
The Focus will have 512mb not 256mb. This is a specific Microsoft WP7 requirement.
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The Focus will have 512mb not 256mb. This is a specific Microsoft WP7 requirement.
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I hope you're right. Because I saw the specs that Microsoft required a minimum of 256MB. AT&T has a spec sheet that shows 256MB as well. I want AT&T to be wrong and MS website to be right.
Every review I've seen today shows only 256mb of ram. With the lack of 3rd party multitasking apps I don't see this as being a major problem. Having said that I would have liked the phone to have 512mb just in case. You can never have too much ram.
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The Focus will have 512mb not 256mb. This is a specific Microsoft WP7 requirement.
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You're wrong WP7 specific requirement is 256mb of ram or higher. 8gb of storage or higher. Did you see the keynote 6 months ago. The LG quantum being released on At&t will also have 256mb of ram. The surround will have 512 with 448mb available to the user.
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You're wrong WP7 specific requirement is 256mb of ram or higher. 8gb of storage or higher. Did you see the keynote 6 months ago. The LG quantum being released on At&t will also have 256mb of ram. The surround will have 512 with 448mb available to the user.
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I stand corrected.
Samsung Focus is the phone I want to get without settlling. THe HD7 is a little too big for me, I might as well get a tablet. However like a few people here, I might have to settle for the HTC Surround if the Focus does indeed only have 256MB RAM.
Sure it may be acceptable now with 256MB but MS could release Windows Phone SP1 or SP2 with multitasking enabled. I also know too many iPhone users who will gloat if I get a phone with less RAM than theirs. I am still up in the air and wish the decision were easy if the Focus had 512MB RAM or the Surround had a microSD slot.
If I do get the Surround, it looks like I will need to sell this 32GB microSD card I just purchased..
The thing is Microsoft recently updated their 'at-a-glance' WP7 site to correct inaccuracies and it still shows the Focus at 512MB RAM.
[www dot microsoft dot com/presspass/presskits/windowsphone/glance.aspx]
Yes! Engadget confirmed the RAM is 512MB and the ROM will be 1GB! The Samsung PR lady that emailed me was right.
Engadget Focus Review
Engadget.com just updated their review earlier today saying the Focus has 512 RAM and 1GB ROM. Which is.good to know.
Also said, unlike any other WP7 phone, you can expand memory using micro sd slot. Only problem is it supposedly wipes your device every time you put one in or take it out. So don't take it out.
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Made2Last said:
Engadget.com just updated their review earlier today saying the Focus has 512 RAM and 1GB ROM. Which is.good to know.
Also said, unlike any other WP7 phone, you can expand memory using micro sd slot. Only problem is it supposedly wipes your device every time you put one in or take it out. So don't take it out.
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The Venue Pro is also expandable
Made2Last said:
Engadget.com just updated their review earlier today saying the Focus has 512 RAM and 1GB ROM. Which is.good to know.
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The question is : does this applied to the omnia 7 ?
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The question is : does this applied to the omnia 7 ?
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Microsoft's website shows the same RAM & ROM. So there's a good chance it will.
Good news indeed. This and the GPS (concerns it would suffer the same as the Galaxy S devices) were the only two things holding me back from this device. Now, November 8th can't get here soon enough.

Repartitioning the storage, is it possible?

Hi,
We are able to unlock the bootloader ...
We got root ...
My question, is it possible to repartition the storage?
For example: Right now, there is only 1GB space for internal storage.
Is it possible to create 2GB?
And if it is possible, will it be a problem if Google have another OS update?
I meant, does Android OS update will check the "original" storage "layout"?
Thanks
excellent question.
I'd like to know as well, as i already have 1.5 GB of apps & games installed on my SGS that i plan to restore to the Nexus S when it arrives
meaning i'm already over the limit, and i've not even started yet
The answer is probably no. The same question was raised on the MT4G/G2 forums regarding their internal storage and it was determined that the eMMC/storage/whatever it's called chip can only be flashed one time. After that, it is physically impossible to change how it's partitioned in any way.
Now, granted, this is a Samsung device and, thus, they may use different chips. I find it unlikely, though, that it will be any different.
there might be a chance if Nexus S is indeed another breed of the Galaxy S family.
if it's fixed size and not changeable, then it's a good news for us, we will not see the corruption problems we found on many SGS when people repeatedly formatted their Internal SD to try different things
but on the other hand, it will kinda suck, as that will really limit the amount of Apps we can install in the device.
which will put a very heavy enphasis on using App2SD even more
AllGamer said:
there might be a chance if Nexus S is indeed another breed of the Galaxy S family.
if it's fixed size and not changeable, then it's a good news for us, we will not see the corruption problems we found on many SGS when people repeatedly formatted their Internal SD to try different things
but on the other hand, it will kinda suck, as that will really limit the amount of Apps we can install in the device.
which will put a very heavy enphasis on using App2SD even more
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You know, a gigabyte for apps goes a very long way. I had 130 apps on my i9000, lots of big ones like CoPilot and some games. I never even got over the 500mb mark on using up my app storage.
Never say never, of course, but I can't imagine worrying about app space on my phone. I'm sure I'll have a new one with much better specs by next summer, which, if apps start growing in size, will have more memory.
How do you have 1.5GB of apps? I have over 150 installed, and they're only like 300MB. Granted, I don't have a ton of games, but I still think it would be hard to get that many apps.
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[Q] Defective Ram Or Really Dense User?

Good afternoon,
I posted this question on another droid tablet related forum, but I have been unable to find an answer, so either I am really dense and asking a really dumb question (hooray for me then) or no one knows the answer... yet!
I am hoping this is an I D 10 T error on the users part because I already had one defective Transformer and am not looking forward to a second return, but here goes me hoping for an answer!
When I pull up running apps on my tf101 under settings, it shows I only have a total of 562 megs of ram. It usually fluctuates at about 112 megs being used and 450 free adding up to well below 1 gig of ram. Doesn't the tf101come with 1 gig of ram? Is part of the ram locked down for future updates, or am I in possession of a defective tablet?
Thanks in advance.
I should mention I have the 16 gig version with a 16 gig mini memory card plugged into the unit (PNY brand I believe if it matters). I have upgraded to Honeycomb 3.1, and show no available updates from ASUS (I also have not rooted my tablet it is running stock OS no funny business here!).
There is 1G of ram TOTAL, but this is shared with the video carveout, framebuffers, and probably a few other things that need shared system memory.
raypou said:
There is 1G of ram TOTAL, but this is shared with the video carveout, framebuffers, and probably a few other things that need shared system memory.
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Thank you, I was kinda assuming that it was just ram being locked down for other processes and unusable, but thought I better ask some experts since I had some terrible luck with my first tf101.
Thanks again for your quick response.
Grumsh said:
Good afternoon,
I posted this question on another droid tablet related forum, but I have been unable to find an answer, so either I am really dense and asking a really dumb question (hooray for me then) or no one knows the answer... yet!
I am hoping this is an I D 10 T error on the users part because I already had one defective Transformer and am not looking forward to a second return, but here goes me hoping for an answer!
When I pull up running apps on my tf101 under settings, it shows I only have a total of 562 megs of ram. It usually fluctuates at about 112 megs being used and 450 free adding up to well below 1 gig of ram. Doesn't the tf101come with 1 gig of ram? Is part of the ram locked down for future updates, or am I in possession of a defective tablet?
Thanks in advance.
I should mention I have the 16 gig version with a 16 gig mini memory card plugged into the unit (PNY brand I believe if it matters). I have upgraded to Honeycomb 3.1, and show no available updates from ASUS (I also have not rooted my tablet it is running stock OS no funny business here!).
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The 562 M bytes of RAM you refer to (Actually a 562MB portion of 16 Gb SD flash) is allocated for app storage, the remainder for app data ,music, photos etc. The 1gb RAM you mention is used for program execution,display etc. In addition Android 3.1 does some strange and undocumented dynamic Flash allocation for app stotage. get free disk usage app for detailed memory usage
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The 562 M bytes of RAM (Actually portion of 16 Gb SDRAM ) is allocated for app storage, the remainder for app data ,music, photos etc. The 1gb you mention is used for program execution,display etc. In addition Android 3.1 does some strange and undocumented dynamic SDRAM allocation for app stotage. get free disk usage app for detailed memory usage
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Well, actually, there's 1GB of RAM, and then 16GB of flash storage. They're not the same.
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wynand32 said:
Well, actually, there's 1GB of RAM, and then 16GB of flash storage. They're not the same.
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Thats what I said but flash would have been a more excepted word vs SDRam .Edited original post to clarify.

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