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sometimes when i soft reset my mogul it goes into a sort of reboot loop, it will reset before loading the today screen
i have an app that lets me boot into a "safe mode" with all today plugins, autorun items and nonessential services disabled, however this too reboots (it resets before even loading the today screen, it resets at the wm6 splash screen)
any ideas? i suspect its some app i have installed, just seems weird that it would happen before anything else loads
When this happens, simply remove the SD card and the loop will stop.
Also, it seems that this has stopped if you have the most current ROM.
heh, i never even thought about pulling the SD card *kicks self*
ive been hesitent to get the latest rom because i dont want to reinstall all my apps and tweaks again, especially when i know ill have to do it for rev.A anyway, lol
thanks for the help, nice to see another chicagoan here (im in the south subs)
Did you recently install the HTC audio manager and/or the HTC Home?
Those programs aren't really the cause...there have been reports of users who don't have them installed that had the reboot loop anyways. I have actually had the reboot loop after a hard reset with no installed programs and reg tweaks...
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Did you recently install the HTC audio manager and/or the HTC Home?
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no and no
havent had the problem again yet, so i havent been able to try the SD thing, but it makes sense since its happenening before autorun apps and services load
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Those programs aren't really the cause...
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I didn't say they were the cause, I was just trying to run past some programs that are known to cause these symptoms.
To flatout say that they are not the cause is just wrong. There is a combination of HTC home and the Audio manager that'll force the unit into a reboot loop you can't get out of.
So no one has found a cause for this? How would this even be feasible if you have startup programs installed on the SD card? I also wanted to put all mail downloads and attachments on the SD, but if I have to pull it out, WM6 creates a Storage Card folder and my actual SD becomes Storage Card 2. It's a pain to have to delete and rename and such especially considering how often the device has to be reset...
Althought the cause is not exactly known, it has been speculated to be a ROM issue. Since flashing to the latest ROM, I have not one reboot loop, and this has been for a few months now.
Those experiencing this, what ROM version do you have?
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Those experiencing this, what ROM version do you have?
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This was present in the 2.08 ROM and was fixed with the 2.09 ROM.
I installed the latest DCD rom no programs installed and it just keeps on looping sometimes it stops for a hr or two and than starts looping again
I tried re-installing the original sprint rom but the same thing keeps on hapening
Are you running Spb Pocket Plus? There are known issues by the developers regarding memory, battery, power meters in the Pocket Plus Today Plugin. For more info, go to Spb Club:
http://www.spbclub.com/forum/index.php
I tried everything, I put back the original Sprint rom didn't help. I went back to sprint they tried, coudlln't fix it, I got a new Phone out of the box.
They still have radio 1.32 and Rom 2.09 the blutooth works excellent on this.
I've had to return 2 phones in the last 2 months. My first phone would just freeze up for no reason. I could use the phone for a couple of hours then it freezed. Well the couple of hours soon became a few minutes than only for about a minute. If I took the battery out for awhile then I could turn it on again for a few minutes. It was as if the battery or cpu was getting hot and then freezing up.
The next phone worked good for 2 days and then all of a sudden it just died at the sprint logo. It boots up and shows the rom version with the sprint logo than the rom text disappears and its stuck at the sprint logo. It won't boot any further. It will stay on the sprint logo and the backlight will even go off after a few minutes. Strange... I am about to take this phone back tomorrow.
So far I've had nothing but bad experience with the durability of these phones. Once I get it set up properly it dies... :-(
i got a mogul aswell, nvr happened to me sorry can't help..
I just installed DCD2.3.2-Telus (several times) along with Titan_Radio_3.27.0. At first it worked wonderfully. The second I install anything to do with the GPS though, the system goes into a reboot loop. Actually it even started doing it last night without installing any navigation software.
- Google Maps
- TomTom 6
- Live Search
^^ Those are the 3 I've tried so far and all three have lead into reboot loops. I just flash the ROM again and everything is okay (for a while).
I've also tried running dcd_titan_2.1.0_telus and got the same problem once I installed one of the above Apps.
Does WM6 create dump files like in Windows so I can figure out what the hell is causing this? I want my GPS to work!!!!
After the reboot loops start, I tried removing the SD card as mentionned but it did nothing. Keep in mind I installed the programs to my internal memory.
Update: After flashing the ROM again to 2.3.2, the second I insert my SD card that also triggers the reboot loop.
Update #2: With the stock Rom, it seems to be working fine again. I think it's a problem with the GPS chip itself?
After spending the last few days trying to figure this out, I said the heck with it and contacted HTC to see what they have to say. Will post their reply once I get it. Hopefully there is a fix, because I hate this!! Now, I can't set my Spb Backup to run on auto, otherwise I wake up to the splash screen again....and again.....and again! I get so angry as I wait anxiuosly to see the result, today screen or verizon, and then *buzz*, I'm going crazy!
I had the same problem as you with my XV-6800 using the stock ROM and it always would go into reboot mode unless I ejected the sd card first. I could only put the card back in after it booted up. I also removed two programs from the device's main memory (Microsoft Voice Command 1.6 and a task switcher).
I'm currently running SPB mobile shell and SPB Pocket Plus (for the task manager) and it's working fine now.
The only thing I can suggest is to remove one program at a time and reboot to see if maybe there is software conflict
WARNING This is a long post describing various events of my G1 and things I was going through, so Im basically doing a dump of my thoughts and possible reasonings to put everything I can report, case it is a ROM, Hardware, or Software flaw somewhere or just user error. But since this forum is about feedback for devs or rom providers =)
Ok I dont know where to begin with this post. Last night my G1 needed a wipe. Why? Cause all it did was reboot over and over not getting past 1st home screen, then finally android screen. What happened before this? All I have of the things going on during that time frame was this:
(Now before the below stuff, earlier that day, Quest Live glitched on me, and when I was at the home screen, I tried to scroll left and right and it got stuck half way, which WORRIED me since I thought the touch screen was messed up. To my luck after a reboot and iso alcohol rub down on screen, it was fixed. Tho only after I unplugged it from the car charger (Which seems to really make the G1 % battery jump in record speed.. glicth?) Or Power Manager issues? Tho this wasnt the updated one, so the new one may have fixed the issues the dev said power manager was causing.
I plugged in the usb to a ubuntu running PC. To charge it, thus triggering Power Manager. Same time, I was trying to install SnapPhoto, which it downloaded, but didnt install, I was also noticing abit of lag, So I ran task manager to turn off some apps running in background, Camera, Gallery, Gaming Buzz Widget, Weather app Widget, Calender. (Then as I rem.. I tried to update AdFree when the new version came out.. it didnt install but same time when I tried to load it, it just came up black.. sign of a bigger issue maybe?)
After that of course couple of them came back. Then I tried to change the volume using the side button, It didnt respond, The on screen worked fine tho. So I decided ok, time to reboot fresh on the phone. Rebooted, Then it loaded to home screen before radio signal, then rebooted. After getting tired of not booting, (I had unplugged it from the USB btw which at 1st kept the charging light on before I rebooted it. ) I pulled the battery out. Which MAYBE I pulled it out at the wrong time during the android screen. Cause after that and I put it back in, all it did was goto the G1, then Android cycling screen, but no longer went to the home screen to try to load. Then was too late for this trick, but the Safe mode attempt. Which MAY have worked when it made it to the home screen, but once it was on Android only, safe mode didnt load at all. Just endless stuck on Android. So I had to wipe 1st then I reapplied the JF 1.51 update.zip to fix it and get the G1 to turn on again and boot.
Advice tip: If you can still boot to the home screen "somewhat" next time it cycles, try holding "Menu" in to have the G1 bypass any apps and load into safe mode, which may allow you to uninstall or fix whatever the issue is.
To my surprise. The Apps when the G1 started installing again went to the SD card. (I do not use apps2sd, Only Lucids orig) Now thats when I noticed more hell.. I went to the market to look at "My Downloads" and WHAM, the 10 apps it auto downloaded (Which I guess was a sync) are the only ones in the My Download section.. nothing from my past downloads.. Which is 110 more apps.
Advice tip: Use Atrackdog to "Export" your database to a text file and keep that on your PC. This way if ANYTHING happens, you least know which apps to look for.
Advice Tip: Upon reflection I probably should have made a nandroid backup after 1.51 was smooth. So if you havent, Id suggest looking at it) I know I will once Im set back up.
So now I am left with a interesting ponder. I msged Lucid to see if his scripts would allow me to use my 2GB which had my 1.51 data on it and somehow relink it to the G1 and have everything restored, then recopy to the 4GB which is my current one. But chances are I need to 1 by 1 install again. (Anyone know how you get apps back that arent on the market anymore? Extract from the SD card maybe?)
Anyways now I am wondering, If you install too much to the G1, will it in the end cause a problem? Im not a dev so I dont know how that all works with the ROM builds. But that wouldnt be good news if you have 129 apps, things could start messing up. (Tho not sure if that was a cause for any of the above)
Another thing I learned, if you have a GOOD screen protector on the G1 (Not the one it came with) and it smears up, or gets smudgy it seems it may interfere with the response of the touch screen. Ive notice if the screen thinks its being pressed in, a app could hang, lock up or choke the G1 to where it fixes itself by doing a reboot. Now that sounds odd that the G1 is sensitive to smudges or oil from your hands (If you had a humid hot day). Anyways fixed that with iso rubbing alcohol and a soft wipe cloth. Then rebooted.
Now my next task is to 1: Find out if my Cache since the wipe is running on the SD still, or if its on Internal. The app "Move Cache" I hear could do that, but I heard it messes up market, maps etc.. so not what I wanna do atm. Then I just gotta see if I can restore apps from SD using a app or terminal, which I am studying now, but just wanna end this post for now.
Will post more as I get around to it. Maybe I can restore the market cache manually.
do you still experiencing the touch screen error problem after all the steps you have taken? because i have the same problem. sometimes when i use touch screen to switch screens, the screen get stuck in the middle and shaking. i also cannot select anything correctly by touching. and i've read from various forums that this has something to do with the charger / charging process. i think that my problem occured because i charged using usb cable to my computer. because i never done that before (i usually charge my phone using a wall charger) and when i did, the problem happened.
How I fixed it? I turned off the G1, used rubbing alcohol with a tissue to gently wipe the screen off and clean it. Then turned back on and it was fine.
Hey
I have a problem, my phone keeps rebooting, i have rootet it with the Hero Rom, and yesterday everything worked perfectly, but when i wanted to use the camera i little while ago, the phone restarted. So i thought i would try andd do a phone reset, but when i did, the phone keeps restarting, it shows the HERO logo, and then kind of reboot, the screen goes black and its showing the HERO logo again. It keeps doing that until i take out the battery.
Can any1 help me with this problem? any suggestions will be appreciated, im kind of desperate
Per
omg i having the same problem...did you fix your phone yet?
I'm having this problem too Anyone have a solution? My HTC Magic just keeps showing the "htc" logo and refreshes every ~5 seconds. Tried taking battery and microSD out, no luck. The last app I used was Alarmania.
i wonder if i could download a different rom to a different sdcard an then load it up to my MT3G
Issue Solved!
I just called Rogers and spoke to a very helpful Rogers tech support rep. This is the solution he offered and it worked for me:
1. When the phone is off, press and hold the Home and Power button until the phone comes on.
2. You should see a little icon with an exclamation mark. Now press and hold the Home and Power button again.
3. You should see some instructions and some options. Use the trackball to select Factory reset. This will erase all your phone's data, but if you're in the cloud (ie your contacts are with Google), you should be fine, you'll just have to reconfigure everything (ie mail accounts, keyboard calibration, home screens, app downloads and preferences).
I hope that helps. I just spent a very unhappy 12 hours without my phone.
FYI: I have a non-rooted Rogers HTC Magic with no mods whatsoever. The problem started one random night when I wasn't using my phone, it just got stuck at the HTC logo like it was about to restart, and it just kept refreshing the logo.
dang my phone is rooted
Another 24 hours later and I have the same problem. My phone went into a perpetual restart last night, it just got stuck at the boot screen, so I had to do a factory reset again. Any advice on what I should do? The nightly factory reset is not a solution.
Spoke to someone on another forum with the same problem. This problem seems to happen when you use alarm clock apps. The problem happened to me whenever I was setting an alarm in Alarmania or Alarming. I'll try the phone without an alarm clock app and keep you guys updated.
I've been doing a lot of research on this the past week. I did not have this problem on my sapphire until after I rooted my phone. I've tried 3 different android custom roms. They all seem to work well at the beginning and then the random reboot occurs maybe a day or two into regular use.
Whats seems to be interesting is I've heard a lot of people in the US say it was after the 1.6 update. So I'm going to try using 1.5 again to see what happens.
I haven't even tried the HERO Rom. I had no interest in it I just wanted my phone to run faster. This could be an underlying problem in the android OS. It could also be the crappy HTC quality starting to come out .
this is the first thread that I've seen someone who didnt have a rooted phone with this issue. Could mean it IS a hardware thing.
Anyways I'll keep you guys posted. Its a crappy problem for sure.
try using another sd card,format a new sd to fat 32 ,copy paste the custom rom you want,boot into recovery mode,wipe data,wipe cache and flash the rom,that works for me.
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I've been doing a lot of research on this the past week. I did not have this problem on my sapphire until after I rooted my phone. I've tried 3 different android custom roms. They all seem to work well at the beginning and then the random reboot occurs maybe a day or two into regular use.
Whats seems to be interesting is I've heard a lot of people in the US say it was after the 1.6 update. So I'm going to try using 1.5 again to see what happens.
I haven't even tried the HERO Rom. I had no interest in it I just wanted my phone to run faster. This could be an underlying problem in the android OS. It could also be the crappy HTC quality starting to come out .
this is the first thread that I've seen someone who didnt have a rooted phone with this issue. Could mean it IS a hardware thing.
Anyways I'll keep you guys posted. Its a crappy problem for sure.
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I can confirm this. I have a mytouch 3g, and with 1.5, the camera was working fine. As soon as I got the OTA 1.6 update, the camera would cause random rebooting.
I called T-Mobile USA and had a replacement phone sent to me. I got the phone, didn't install any apps, and waited until I got the OTA 1.6 update again, tested the camera several times, and got no reboots. I flashed dwang's 1.6 ROM and I am still reboot-free.
this prob anyone got fixed??
hi there,
it seems as if i had the same problem. i got an htc magic with android 1.5 (swiss edition), i guess, and after i installed alarmania and had it alarming, it rebooted. instead of showing me the home screen, it just shows a htc brand and makes a sound, and repeats this after maybe 30 seconds.
i tried taking out the battery for some minutes, didnt work. i tried to go to safe mode (pressing menu and power), but it fell into the same circle, as well as when i tried to do a factory reset. i also tried to take out the battery for 20 hours, but same reaction.
does anyone have an idea what to do? ill try to call htc tomorrow.
thx for your help,
aeronaut
ps: please excuse my bad english, but im swiss. this is the only forum where i found similar problems to mine.
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hi there,
it seems as if i had the same problem. i got an htc magic with android 1.5 (swiss edition), i guess, and after i installed alarmania and had it alarming, it rebooted. instead of showing me the home screen, it just shows a htc brand and makes a sound, and repeats this after maybe 30 seconds.
i tried taking out the battery for some minutes, didnt work. i tried to go to safe mode (pressing menu and power), but it fell into the same circle, as well as when i tried to do a factory reset. i also tried to take out the battery for 20 hours, but same reaction.
does anyone have an idea what to do? ill try to call htc tomorrow.
thx for your help,
aeronaut
ps: please excuse my bad english, but im swiss. this is the only forum where i found similar problems to mine.
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This won't help you at this point but there seems to be a trend happening. Could it be Alarmania!? My suggestion would be to not use that app as it seems to cause problems. As per the camera causing the same issue, I'm not sure if there is an update for your phones but I just recieved an update for mine (Rogers HTC Magic) and I also got stuck in a boot loop after installing the first update. I had to use a Mini SDcard adapter that I purchased at my nearest electronics dealer for ei. BestBuy. It came with a class 4 4gb SDcard and it fits on my keychain. Basically you can use this to put a new IMG on your SDcard and then reboot your phone into fastboot. The IMG will automatically install (just follow the instructions). One issue may be finding the new correct IMG that you need but I`m sure you won`t have too much of a problem finding it on an established forum such as XDA. Good luck
thx for your help, but im not able to "restart" my phone normally - as i said, not even the factory reset mode is working. any other idea without flashing the ROM?
flashing only
thank goodness I've made recovery image just before installing Alarmania - Alarms is the same
Alarmed Litle is one that worked but it crash every system start
I was having the same problem, but this, which I found on the "Canadian HTC Magic Gets Sense UI and 911 Fix" threat at androidguys.com
"If you're getting the never-ending boot screen, your phone is -not- bricked. you just haven't finished the second part. you NEED a micro-sd adapter. Turn the phone off (take out the battery), and have a micro-sd card adapter. while the phone is off, take out the sd card and plug it on your comp and delete SAPPIMG.zip from the memory card. Once that's deleted, you need to extract "HTC_Magic_Update_File2.zip" and move "SAPPIMG.zip to the memory card (it's got the same name as the first "SAPPIMG.zip" file, but the second one is supposed to be around 85mb, so don't confuse the two) after that, just repeat steps 3-8 from the first part and that should finish the update on the phone. (this part takes a while, so be patient)"
Cheers
Yes but it is only when "flashing phone was aborted".
It is not for "after instaling Alarmania" on a phone without
Sense UI.
Data WIPE not worked for me, only reflashing phone with my saved flash image (thank gooddess that I've backuped my phone beforehand) done the trick.
well, its funny, i understood the reset page on the htc homepage wrong - i called their hotline, and i was able to reset it. but some days after, i have the same prob. i dunno if it is caused by any other app i have installed during these days (i do not remember as well), but ill try to get a newer rom onto my magic
I rebooted my phone earlier today. However, I had a very hard time entering my PIN. Apparently, the touchscreen's calibration was entirely messed up. I don't mean that my selections triggered action at a fixed point relative to my actual finger input, it was just seemingly random. Touching 2 triggered 6 and touching the "Emergency" button triggered 1.
I wanted to see whether it was a ROM problem or whether my actual touchscreen was messed up so I made a nandroid backup and flashed a different ROM. Everything worked flawlessly. Then I reverted back to the nandroid backup and obviously the problem was there again.
After a while I managed to enter the PIN and navigated to the touchscreen calibration tool with the buttons. Now the touchscreen works again but I discovered that the Window Animation setting was altered as well. Additionally, I noticed that the "SIM card changed" notification doesn't appear anymore after I boot up, which used to happen before.
That brings us to my question: is the ROM (stock HTC 1.6, rooted) messed up? Why did the settings randomly change and do you think there are more settings that messed up? Will it keep working in the future or will it happen again?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated, so thanks in advance!
That's strange. It could be a rom problem. But maybe the settings changed while you had the phone in your pocket. If push menu twice in 1 minute the screen turns on and anything can happen then. If it happens again I would flash again stock rom or another.
Thanks for the reply. It hasn't happened anymore, and I hope it never will.
First off, thank you to all. Normally i can search and lil reading and be well on my way. But this Droid X has driven me nuts. Its now 2am and i bow to the guru's. So i'll start from the beginning, I got Droid x from a second hand person today, i took home and formatted to stock via normal menu. I then activated phone as it makes you. then proceeded to root with pete 1 click. which worked instantly. So then i added koush installer, which gives two options. Top option tells you success right after you click it. Well then in my wisdom used titanium backup to restore my fiancee's apps to this phone. Her old one was a original droid. Didn't think i added any of the system data but i must have, cause after a reboot a while later. the phone was in a no service state. Couldn't check about phone or really any menu after the initial settings menu at home page. So then after a lot of bad words, =) end up doing a factory reset again. Which is what got me to new problem.... The phone isn't rooted & when trying to root it fails on restarts because after RED Logo appears screen faintly is lit & hangs forever. But if pull battery and turn on, seems to be just fine. Also seems to do it only when plugged in usb to pc. Which can't reroot without the connection right? or does zroot work? So my thinking is that the person before put a bootloader on here, and i didn't know. So perhaps there is now two partial installs of loaders. that a factory reset/wipe won't fix. & having never had to do anything crazy on my Droid 3 or the other 2 original droids im really frustrated at myself. cause im sure im missing a very simple item in this process. Thank you for reading this jumbled problem as i typed it, & appreciate any and all responses.