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I loaded CM6 when the nightly was first posted and had been loving it. I thought it was awesome that it was pure Android with all of the proprietary HTC stuff stripped out. I was sure that AOSP was the way to go and hadn't looked back until yesterday when I loaded AvaFroyo-V3. Not using Sense for a while has really made me appreciate the aesthetics and usability that HTC has put into their devices. I can see why they keep it so locked down because it really does make their devices stand out amongst the other Android hardware, especially to the majority of their users who could care less about rooting, open-source, etc. Who knows what I'll be running next week but I'm going to stick with Sense for now.
Really? It makes me realize how bloated and completely unnessecary Sense is, but that's just me... Personally, I don't have any problem with taking the time to download my own widgets and apps so I can customize everything exactly how I want it.
Sense is a bloated pig but to each his own.
Almost every sense widget has an equal replacement in the market if you know where to look. Launcherpro plus, fancy widget and others come to mind.
Aridon said:
Sense is a bloated pig but to each his own.
Almost every sense widget has an equal replacement in the market if you know where to look. Launcherpro plus, fancy widget and others come to mind.
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Only one I couldn't seem to find was a replacement for the favorite contacts slider. Which also happens to be the one I use the most.
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Only one I couldn't seem to find was a replacement for the favorite contacts slider. Which also happens to be the one I use the most.
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http://www.launcherpro.com/?p=130
cosine83 said:
Only one I couldn't seem to find was a replacement for the favorite contacts slider. Which also happens to be the one I use the most.
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LauncherPro Plus has the contacts widget.
PFx00 said:
I loaded CM6 when the nightly was first posted and had been loving it. I thought it was awesome that it was pure Android with all of the proprietary HTC stuff stripped out. I was sure that AOSP was the way to go and hadn't looked back until yesterday when I loaded AvaFroyo-V3. Not using Sense for a while has really made me appreciate the aesthetics and usability that HTC has put into their devices. I can see why they keep it so locked down because it really does make their devices stand out amongst the other Android hardware, especially to the majority of their users who could care less about rooting, open-source, etc. Who knows what I'll be running next week but I'm going to stick with Sense for now.
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What is it that you like about Sense?
I think most people like Sense cause it looks good out of the box, the iPhone type users like Sense a lot. Those of us that like customizing our phones usually hate Sense, because it's bloated and HTC disallows uninstalling programs until rooted.
A week or so ago there was a 'scrollable contact widget' in the market that worked great. It was free too. Maybe HTC C&D'd them too.
Yea it was called mecontacts I have it but it is no longer on the market, at least not for me
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What is it that you like about Sense?
I think most people like Sense cause it looks good out of the box, the iPhone type users like Sense a lot. Those of us that like customizing our phones usually hate Sense, because it's bloated and HTC disallows uninstalling programs until rooted.
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I love sense and customizing my phone. And i am not a Iphone type user.. You shouldnt really categorize people. it just boils down to the old saying "to each their own"
CM6 + Launcher Pro blows sense out of the water...
No bloat + more options
It takes some time to set up, but once you figure out what you are doing Sense will be a thing of the past.
CM6 + Launcher Pro FTW!
firemedic1343 said:
What is it that you like about Sense?
I think most people like Sense cause it looks good out of the box, the iPhone type users like Sense a lot. Those of us that like customizing our phones usually hate Sense, because it's bloated and HTC disallows uninstalling programs until rooted.
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I'm all for customizing but I like for my phone to have a consistent look and feel between all of the widgets too. Like I said, it took not using sense for a while to appreciate this.
xero187 said:
CM6 + Launcher Pro blows sense out of the water...
No bloat + more options
It takes some time to set up, but once you figure out what you are doing Sense will be a thing of the past.
CM6 + Launcher Pro FTW!
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No doubt that there are more options and, with some effort, you can get close to the same experience. I thought CM6 and Launcher Pro was the way to go until yesterday. Now I'm torn.
xero187 said:
CM6 + Launcher Pro blows sense out of the water...
No bloat + more options
It takes some time to set up, but once you figure out what you are doing Sense will be a thing of the past.
CM6 + Launcher Pro FTW!
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It's getting really, really, really hard for me to pick between froyo+sense and cm6+launcher pro plus (which I recommend every true lover of launcher to get; support your devs!!!).
Pros for sense: Widgets-Bar none, the implementation htc has with sense's widgets are just plain awesome, I mean friendstream, bookmarks, messaging, mail, everything is right there and accessible from the get-go.
Cons for sense: Slow as balls, no customization, gives me some weird purplish tint on my nova,slow, has those stupid sprint apps, slow, aaaand did I mention slow?
Pros for launcher/adw/whatever's not sense: Customization is AWESOME, can do whatever I want, from changing the app drawer opening time to the color of my task bar (cm6), if I see it I can change it.
Fast as HELL- Pretty much gives you a brand new phone; really makes it feel worth the $350 I paid for it on launch.
Cons For launcher/adw/whatever: Customization- Some people really don't want the hassle of having to set up EVERYTHING to their liking, sense really simplifies the overall experience.
Widgets-While there are competitors out there, I've yet to find widgets that truly replace some of the htc widget's for me. And I can use my yahoo mail account with sense so that's definitely a factor to me lol
At the end of the day, it really is up to personal taste. After all, this is android and android DOES everything you want it to. What's great is we're given so many awesome choices; and even when finding flaws in both their still better than anything else you can find on the market. To me, the real winner is the evo+the supporters that have made this phone what it is today-awesome.
p.s-I hope this thread doesn't turn into a pissing ground against sense or people who choose something different than what you have; it's called an opinion and everybody's is different, grow up if you can't understand that.
To be more specific about what I like ... and remember this is personal preference with zero effort to setup:
Clock - Sure clock widgets are a dime a dozen but I've become accustomed to the Sense's clock and weather. You can use beautiful/fancy but neither have the full screen weather animation (which serves no purpose but I think its pretty cool).
Copy and Paste - I love that copy and paste functionality is built in across all applications. I use this most in the web browser. I'm not a fan of the select text feature.
Keyboard - I like the haptic feedback when I type, I also like having the arrow keys (both took a while to grow on me). Plus, the keys seem a little bigger so its easier for me to type on. I was using various keyboard mods but they stopped working on CM6
Touch to focus camera I never really knew how much I missed this until now. Such a handy feature. Hopefully they'll get this working when a new kernel source is released.
Facebook Contact Integration Sure you can load a hacked .apk but I also think HTC's integration is a little better than stock. Especially how they pull other peoples' pictures into the gallery.
Dialer- Was using Dialer One, but still like the look and feel of HTC's better. Also, the contact pictures that are synced from Facebook are much higher quality.
Calendar Widget- I never really found a good free replacement for the HTC Calendar Widget. Several people have recommended a paid calendar grid app.
4G Toggle Widget- Never really looked for an alternative but missed it when it was gone.
Radio- I never used this but thought I'd throw it in the list.
HTC Sync- This is the only option to get my work calendar on my phone because Google sync doesn't work with Office 2010 and Windows 7. There are 3rd party applications but I don't want to load them on the secured network at work.
Other Misc Widgets These are kind of useless to me but still nice to have options that are skinned to match perfectly - Music, Friend Stream, Day in History, News, Weather, Etc.
Don't get me wrong. CM has an awesome ROM that I'm sure I'll go back to at some point but I'm lovin' me some Sense right now.
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It's getting really, really, really hard for me to pick between froyo+sense and cm6+launcher pro plus (which I recommend every true lover of launcher to get; support your devs!!!).
Pros for sense: Widgets-Bar none, the implementation htc has with sense's widgets are just plain awesome, I mean friendstream, bookmarks, messaging, mail, everything is right there and accessible from the get-go.
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While I liked Sense when I first got the Evo (new to Android) I think your pros pointed out exactly why I sought out and found LauncherPro so quickly. I don't use any of the Sense widgets! the first thing I did was remove friendstream, book marks, messaging and mail widgets.
In any case, Sense UI is a good UI for people who take advantage of all the widgets but others may see it as 'bloated' if they don't. I like paring down my screen real estate and LauncherPro allows me to do that easily. But it does take up time and effort to set things up just so.
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Yea it was called mecontacts I have it but it is no longer on the market, at least not for me
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It is still there. I just did a search for it.
Both have thier pros and cons. I personally love sense. The only things I wish it had is the normal bluetooth stack so that I could run wiimote and then I wish sense would go into landscape. And also I like the 3D app drawer.
Does Launcher Pro allow you to sync your contacts Facebook info (pics, statuses, birthday, etc) like in Sense? That is invaluable for me.
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Does Launcher Pro allow you to sync your contacts Facebook info (pics, statuses, birthday, etc) like in Sense? That is invaluable for me.
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That has nothing to do with LauncherPro. You do that with the Facebook app.
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Does Launcher Pro allow you to sync your contacts Facebook info (pics, statuses, birthday, etc) like in Sense? That is invaluable for me.
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Facebook will link some of that information to your contacts by default but that function is broke in 2.2 right now. There is a hack that you can run in the shell to fix it or search for the hacked .apk on these forums.
After using HTC Magic for 1.5 years I'm seriously considering getting a new phone. My two main options are Nexus S and DHD.
How are your phones treating you guys? Would you recommend going with a DHD or the S?
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You asking this in the Desire HD forum, what kind of answer do you expect?
Go with the Desire HD of course lol
I've thought about grabbing a nexus but there it's just too little going on in their development thread to make me want to. I'm wondering if, in these challenging economic times, a lot of devs are sticking with the nexus one. After all the nexus s is only a small jump ahead in spec.
The worst thing about the nexus s is that there are no sense roms. I've come to the conclusion that sense is just better. I mean vanilla aosp doesn't even include a fm radio and this is 2011. What are you thinking Google?
Someone swyped my idea.
By using default Sense as your launcher you gain two things:
1. HTC Widgets
2. General integrity with your phone UI
Main downsides of Sense:
1. Application space in home screen dock, you cannot add any application to Sense dock
2. Missing eye candy: e.g. home screen transition effects
3. General smoothness. Sense is actually very unsmooth. You might not realize this if you haven't used LauncherPro, which is the smoothest launcher at the moment
Only real thing I lose by not using Sense are HTC widgets. But I've found a corresponding replacement for every HTC widget I want. Even the lovely "Sync All" widget.
So basically if you look at the pros and cons of Sense UI, it really makes me laugh when people say "Sense just makes sense"
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By using default Sense as your launcher you gain two things:
1. HTC Widgets
2. General integrity with your phone UI
Main downsides of Sense:
1. Application space in home screen dock, you cannot add any application to Sense dock
2. Missing eye candy: e.g. home screen transition effects
3. General smoothness. Sense is actually very unsmooth. You might not realize this if you haven't used LauncherPro, which is the smoothest launcher at the moment
Only real thing I lose by not using Sense are HTC widgets. But I've found a corresponding replacement for every HTC widget I want. Even the lovely "Sync All" widget.
So basically if you look at the pros and cons of Sense UI, it really makes me laugh when people say "Sense just makes sense"
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Funny you say that. I find launcher pro to be slow and a bit buggy at times. Everytime I have flashed a aosp rom, I have always gone back to stock HTC sense. I find it better and has a nice UI and integration.
As for the question, having asked in the desire HD forum, your going to get a biuased lean towards the desire hd of course. Having said that desire HD ftw .
A few weeks ago I was due an upgrade so was in a similar position - DHD, Nexus S or Galaxy S. On paper each one had things I liked so I did a few weeks worth of reading reviews, checking out videos, checking them out in a shop, looking at development progress on XDA etc.
In the end I went for the DHD, mainly down to:
1/ Build quality. HTC build some very nice phones, the DHD being no exception. It has a nice weight to it and feels like the expensive piece of equipment that it is. The SGS and Nexus S on the otherhand, felt like cheap iPhone copies. Really quite plasticy and flimsy looking.
2/ Sense UI. It's what sold me on HTC phones in the 1st place and I love how it integrates with the phone. I've always dabbled with other ROMs and launchers but in the end I'm back on Sense. It's not perfect but using a custom ROM like Android Revolution HD you can get it super smooth and if transition animations are your thing then you can add those too... along with most other mods and customisations.
3/ RFS, GPS issues and lag. Go check the SGS section for details.
4/ Samsung seem to release phones and then stop supporting them, whereas HTC seem to be a little bit better at this.
That's probably as unbiased as I can be... so go buy a DHD and well see you back here soon
The NS has got week specs..... its just a N1 with a samoled screen and a SGS inside lol
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4/ Samsung seem to release phones and then stop supporting them, whereas HTC seem to be a little bit better at this.
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the NS has nothing to do with samsung after it leaves the factory, its the official google developer device, so all updates and support come straight from google.
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the NS has nothing to do with samsung after it leaves the factory, its the official google developer device, so all updates and support come straight from google.
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I was generalising about the very similar situation I found myself in. See 1st paragraph
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I was generalising about the very similar situation I found myself in. See 1st paragraph
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duh sorry mate i was speed reading lol
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duh sorry mate i was speed reading lol
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Haha... no worries, it's easily done.
If I had a £1 for every post I've misread I could buy us all a new DHD
Tbh Sense was the thing that got me sold on HTC phones in the beginning, now after 3 different HTC phones and more experience with flashin and other apps I defenatly cant say i have not found any better launcher app than ADW EX, its so many custom ways to use it, including expanding number of apps on homescreen, dock layout of choice etc, the best is if you get yourself Beautiful widgets or simular and other cool stuff, you can match HTC widgets easy, the thing i miss is really the deep integration with the apps and OS none other has managed.
DHD without a doubt. I find HTC kit extremely reliable. I think the nexus S looks too plasticy.
I had 4 nexus s phones and all had faults... in the end I gave up and got a wonderful HD.. best move ever... The nexus s is the sexiest phone in the world, but performance wise it isn't a scratch on the HD. Of my 4 nexus s, 3 had weird colour changes on the screen due to the curved glass and one had really poor wifi, the weird colours was strange, one had a piss green hue, and another had a purple haze, not at all like the cool blue of the Samsung galaxy s. But my 4 phones was from the first batch The DHD is a 9/10 and the nexus s is a 7/10. And the 7 points is because its the prettiest phone in the whole universe
JD
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Tbh Sense was the thing that got me sold on HTC phones in the beginning, now after 3 different HTC phones and more experience with flashin and other apps I defenatly cant say i have not found any better launcher app than ADW EX, its so many custom ways to use it, including expanding number of apps on homescreen, dock layout of choice etc, the best is if you get yourself Beautiful widgets or simular and other cool stuff, you can match HTC widgets easy, the thing i miss is really the deep integration with the apps and OS none other has managed.
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spb are working on mobile shell for android, i got my beta testers email the other day i think this could be the first sence beater
I've switched from HTC Diamond2 (windows mobile 6.5x) to S/E Arc, and I miss the HTC interface.
Is it possible to load the android equivalent to this hardware?
Get beautiful widget + Sense theme for ADW launcher
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Get beautiful widget + Sense theme for ADW launcher
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thanks
Thanks vegetaleb for the reply! I see that it is possible to mimic the home screen layout really well. However, what Im looking for was the part of Sense that handled calendar related stuff like booking a meeting. In detail, I liked how the clock was changed like it was on a spinning wheel - which made it possible to change the time really fast. Maybe there is something similar in the Android world?
I am missing some Sense apps as well, like the slide down Alarm that you will never find in other apps, if it was a Nexus One with 90% same components as HTC own phones you can ''port'' Sense into it by a custom rom, but when the hardwares are totally different here it's very difficult to do it.
SGS devs tried to port Desire rom but they never could, and they tried hard...
I hope you didn't see the new Sense 3.0, you will return to HTC once Sensation is out
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I am missing some Sense apps as well, like the slide down Alarm that you will never find in other apps, if it was a Nexus One with 90% same components as HTC own phones you can ''port'' Sense into it by a custom rom, but when the hardwares are totally different here it's very difficult to do it.
SGS devs tried to port Desire rom but they never could, and they tried hard...
I hope you didn't see the new Sense 3.0, you will return to HTC once Sensation is out
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The phones hardware is identical to (apart from smaller storage,screen etc) to the Desire HD, it would be very portable to this device although the smaller storage would make it harder.
Small storage is not a problem, on N1 the DHD port was working great thanks to EXT3 of 1gb on SD
I dont think HTC has decided what to do with sense after seeing ics , most of the funcionality they offer wasnt present on any android version until gingerbread and now ics includes most of those, do you think they're going to do something similar to windows phone and use almost stock android but with their apps and services like weather, htc sense account etc?
I personally despise sense and hope HTC starts to give us little android virgins, but I am sure for marketing purposes they will keep cramming there software on there products so they have some claim to originality.
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I dont think HTC has decided what to do with sense after seeing ics , most of the funcionality they offer wasnt present on any android version until gingerbread and now ics includes most of those, do you think they're going to do something similar to windows phone and use almost stock android but with their apps and services like weather, htc sense account etc?
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We can but live in hope, and maybe they will make the apps user removable too
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We can but live in hope, and maybe they will make the apps user removable too
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ICS has a feature that all apps can be disabled (equivalent to 'freezing' in titanium backup - not removed but can't run)
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I personally despise sense and hope HTC starts to give us little android virgins, but I am sure for marketing purposes they will keep cramming there software on there products so they have some claim to originality.
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If you root you can have anything you like - try CM7 (and when released, CM9 with ICS).
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I dont think HTC has decided what to do with sense after seeing ics , most of the funcionality they offer wasnt present on any android version until gingerbread and now ics includes most of those, do you think they're going to do something similar to windows phone and use almost stock android but with their apps and services like weather, htc sense account etc?
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What kind of functionality did sense add? It was very pretty and the widgets were very good (calendar, for example) - but did it add any extra features?
I actually like Sense. Of all "major frameworks" like TouchWize and Blur and what not, Sense comes on TOP (my opinion only).
Now, can we live without sense? Perfectly.
Will HTC abandon Sense in ICS? Doubt it.
P.S. i run a rom with Sense daily... so.. biased
I hope so. I hate sense. I only like the widgets and the social network integration on the contacts app. After getting rid of sense my phone became faster and battery lasts longer.
But now, the stock launcher and features of ICS is better than sense. Even the widgets looks better now.
But i doubt they will remove sense 100%. I just wish that they won't be changing the stock ICS UI that much.
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I hope so. I hate sense. I only like the widgets and the social network integration on the contacts app. After getting rid of sense my phone became faster and battery lasts longer.
But now, the stock launcher and features of ICS is better than sense. Even the widgets looks better now.
But i doubt they will remove sense 100%. I just wish that they won't be changing the stock ICS UI that much.
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This is my point! Pick Sense, remove social integration, custom widgets, dialer, sms app, and all the other minor things, and yout get AOSP. And the you miss those things.
I agree, Sense IS HEAVY. But for what it does, it's the best. How many apps would one have to install on AOSP to get the full sense functionality? And how slower would that device be with that amount of apps interchaining themselves?
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in short. ditch sense for the ICS UI
HTC will always add there own interpretation on what they think Ice Cream Sandwich will look like, and that is the way it is. But what I do hope is that they build on top of what Google has done instead of stripping everything out.
For example, mail apps, people apps are not stock and they should try to keep it true to what Google intended and maybe use the API that are exposed by Google to add there on stuff on top.
Also they should try to build a launcher that is not so heavy integrated to how the whole OS works, instead decouple it away so if there are updates needed to the OS it can fit nicely on top.
So no I don't think Sense will fade away, but I do hope the way they implement it is as close to stock as possible, just adding features on top of it.
i don't see the point in complaining about this since pretty much all of us here on this forum have the ability to root and just install vanilla ROM, or whatever you want
for the average user (NOT US!) HTC don't seem to do a pretty decent job with Sense, since developers here can prepare some very highly optimised versions. What i would prefer is for HTC to look at the ROMs present over here and take note.
I run RCMix HD sense 3.5 daily without any problems at all and while comparing it to my brother's iPhone 4, 9 times outta 10 this ROM is as smooth as or even smoother, and lets be fair as far as UI customisations go, HTC are alot further ahead than everyone else, but if they realise the potential in their own skin as the developers have shown, they could take a really hard fight to Apple as far as usability goes (hopefully with less lawsuits than samsung have).
HTC is not gonna remove sense 100%, as they mentioned before they gonna take it to next level sense 4.
So get ready
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Id tend to agree,the divide looks split with sense,personally i like sense. I tried cyn but reverted back,its different coming from say galaxy s to sense,you wont like it as much its your starting point dependant. Anyway yeah htc will continue. Nice
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HTC do something different with Sense and it's one of the reasons I (and others I know) bought an Android phone over another platform. The Sense UI seems to be much better than Touchwiz etc. (tried on Galaxy SII and was not a fan) - phones are a very personal choice at the end of the day and with Android we are a bit spoilt for choice between manufacturers.
Whatever HTC do now that Ice Cream Sandwich is inbound I look forward to their progress as they seem to be my preferred manufacturer right now, if I don't like what they come up with then I can always opt for the Galaxy Nexus or (judging by XDA currently) end up rooting and put stock a ICS ROM on there anyways.
I'm using sense and I must say I like it, when I saw the ics video launch it looked really similar to sense.
I really want to see what HTC is going to do and I hope it won't take too long...
Mymy, i love Sense, i have a Sense ROM in my phone everyday! I always thought that stock Android is ugly, but after i've seen ICS, i am ready to switch to ICS without regrets !
i concur with the observations of everybody one on this thread, sense is some times heavy , most times resource hungry but the most important aspect of it is the packaging, i tried every rom available here on XDA and found when i was on CM i always had to download additional stuff say for my calender's, social networking,word processing (apps to open .doc's and other stuff) and crucial of them camera !!! i am sure many will agree MIUI cam is heck of a lot better then what CM has !. But when i'm back on sense roms (RCmix,ARhd or lee) i dont need get these extra stuff.
The way is see it,if we are going to build some thing to have integration of various different aspects of using your phone with third party applications you are bound to have a heck up here or there but then its quite hard to see those kinda of heck ups happening on any these sense roms even on the beta one's ! so i guess coming from a sony branded x10 with there stupid philosophy and launcher , i believe integration and stability are the key factors of sense, the only other rom that i found such level of integration sans few heck ups are the MIUI roms but then there always the battery drain issue on them.
So as for ICS i believe HTC should try to carry the kind of integration they have sans the resource hunger nature of sense launcher , take some notes from other oem launchers like touchwiz where the complete os experience is not themed.
Just my observations
Actually i like sense but stock ICS looks promising to me. Would love to see a stock ICS with some sense widgets tho
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i concur with the observations of everybody one on this thread, sense is some times heavy , most times resource hungry but the most important aspect of it is the packaging, i tried every rom available here on XDA and found when i was on CM i always had to download additional stuff say for my calender's, social networking,word processing (apps to open .doc's and other stuff) and crucial of them camera !!! i am sure many will agree MIUI cam is heck of a lot better then what CM has !. But when i'm back on sense roms (RCmix,ARhd or lee) i dont need get these extra stuff.
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Exactly. I love how light and smooth CM feels but its just a whole lot more easier and convenient to have everything put on a platter in front of you....like Sense does. Especially with the social integration aspect in the people app and the calender.
Although an AOSP ICS Rom night change all of that for good. We do seem to have improvements in the contacts and calender apps.
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srikanth.naidu said:
i concur with the observations of everybody one on this thread, sense is some times heavy , most times resource hungry but the most important aspect of it is the packaging, i tried every rom available here on XDA and found when i was on CM i always had to download additional stuff say for my calender's, social networking,word processing (apps to open .doc's and other stuff) and crucial of them camera !!! i am sure many will agree MIUI cam is heck of a lot better then what CM has !. But when i'm back on sense roms (RCmix,ARhd or lee) i dont need get these extra stuff.
The way is see it,if we are going to build some thing to have integration of various different aspects of using your phone with third party applications you are bound to have a heck up here or there but then its quite hard to see those kinda of heck ups happening on any these sense roms even on the beta one's ! so i guess coming from a sony branded x10 with there stupid philosophy and launcher , i believe integration and stability are the key factors of sense, the only other rom that i found such level of integration sans few heck ups are the MIUI roms but then there always the battery drain issue on them.
So as for ICS i believe HTC should try to carry the kind of integration they have sans the resource hunger nature of sense launcher , take some notes from other oem launchers like touchwiz where the complete os experience is not themed.
Just my observations
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Agree with this post totally... but what I am hoping now is that ICS is much better on a UI point of view that HTC would not need to change so much of the OS and just tweak it a bit to add a bit of differential. This hopefully mean that it won't be so heavy. But then saying so, HW acceleration will help so much in transitions on the UI that maybe it won't feel as heavy.
I feel HTC should add on top of the existing UI instead of stripping and re-writing most of the Google Code.
Sense is definitely one of the best UI customizations available for Android. The focus on social integration is its biggest strength. At the same time its so heavy that it brings my phone to a standstill sometimes, which makes me want to just go back to AOSP now and then.
To get to the point, I doubt HTC will let Sense fade away that easily. It is their identity, and as MrKaon already mentioned, they're going to take it to the next level. Because ICS has a lot of that functionality now built in, I'm hoping HTC will rework Sense to make it much lighter. I'm eager to see what more they do with it !
Just wondering what people like about sense and any/all of the sense roms? I don't mean this to bash anybody's favorite rom and definitely not bashing any developers, I respect all the time and effort that's gone into any custom rom. I just wanted to know what I'm missing and/or if I just haven't given any enough quality time yet. Every time I've tried one it's just seemed a bit laggy and slow compared with some of the other rom's I've tried based on cm7. Again, don't start flaming me, I want to hear objective, reasonable reasons why you sense people like it.
The last time I used Sense was on my HTC Hero before I tried CyanogenMod. What I think Sense does right is it provides a UI and functionality where everything just works the way you would expect them to, without needing additional tweaking or apps. For example, there is no denying that the HTC dialer is infinitely superior to the AOSP dialer. I find it incredibly ironic that a glorious top-of-the-line smart phone cannot do something like smart (T9) dialing of contacts, something every single dumbphone can do. Also, since the beginning of Sense, the mail, phone, and text messaging icons automatically display an unread count badge on them, which I think everyone can appreciate. If you want that in AOSP you have to install separate widgets (like SMS Unread Count) or different home launchers that pretty much only enthusiasts would look for. HTC Sense also gives power controls and other shortcuts in the notification pull-down whereas stock AOSP does not (unless you're using CyanogenMod, which again, is only for enthusiasts). Also, I imagine that people also like the overall refined look (clean, dual-tone textures) that Sense provides over AOSP's rather plain and basic look. Just my two cents.
i hate sense but i can't live without it
For me it is all about lack of lag and uptime, plus a rotating rosie that works great - so i'm back on Virtuous 1.0.2
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bradley_e_smith said:
For me it is all about lack of lag and uptime, plus a rotating rosie that works great - so i'm back on Virtuous 1.0.2
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Sense 2.1???????
Like sense 2.1.. Coz its smooth ui then android platform ui..
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Z!GZA!G said:
Sense 2.1???????
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Yes, 2.1 running froyo
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The ONLY thing i miss about Sense is the zoom function of most included camcorder apk's. Not sure if it's something that can ONLY be achieved with sense but I've never seen it on non sense roms.
- Calender
- Clock app ( alarm, timer, stop watch) all in one
- contextual menus
I dont use sense launcher, I more like launcher pro.
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I just love Sense, tried other ROM's but couldn't get used to the UI which was a bit boring. Of course you can modify it all yourself, but I like the ready-to-go package Sense provides me. Now running Virtuous Affinity and Sense 3.5 looks great!
I wonder if it's what you get used to, in other words I wonder if I gave it more time and forced myself to use it for an extended period I'd get to like it more?
Sense is great for its integration with the ROM. in other words, if you prefer to have a GUI and sense's style happens to click with you, then it's awesome.
ofcourse. the dialer is best.
One thing I really really like about Sense : Internet passthrough. This needs to be in every ROM IMHO...
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One thing I really really like about Sense : Internet passthrough. This needs to be in every ROM IMHO...
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i thought it is in every custom rom out there?? or atleast most of them...
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i thought it is in every custom rom out there?? or atleast most of them...
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Internet passthrough =/= tethering. Internet passthrough is when you plug your phone through the USB to your PC and uses your PC's connection. Tethering is using your phone's data FOR the PC.
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I just love Sense, tried other ROM's but couldn't get used to the UI which was a bit boring. Of course you can modify it all yourself, but I like the ready-to-go package Sense provides me. Now running Virtuous Affinity and Sense 3.5 looks great!
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Yeah, the same to me. i like sense because it seems so cool and there are so many functions that i have never imagined before. So i think sense 3.5 and other coming sense will be greater
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Internet passthrough =/= tethering. Internet passthrough is when you plug your phone through the USB to your PC and uses your PC's connection. Tethering is using your phone's data FOR the PC.
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I know the difference between both. I could've sworn the older roms that I use for the DZ offered internet passthrough as well. I wasn't referring to tethering.
when it WORKS (as in doesn't encounter force closing) it is one of the smoothest and most intuitive interface's i've ever seen. I'll admit, it has problems and is still in need of work, it does take some CPU and RAM away from other things but over-all it is a beautiful UI and one of the most interesting and beautiful UIs of all of the custom ones out there. Now, with that said, I don't mean to say that the other's aren't nice.. however other companies just haven't gone as far into making a different and flowing interface
I like the look of sense but I just can't get past the lag.
I tried the two versions of 3.5 out there recently and they were so slow they were basically unusable. I tried with swap and enabled and without and overclocked up to almost 1500 and it still was so slow.
(used superwipe, etc before/between flashes)
2.1 ran a bit quicker but I still found it laggy and there were always odd things that did not work for me.
What was ironic is there was no "problems" at all with the 3.5 that i ran across as far as bugs, reboots, etc , it was just slow.
If one could even approach the speed of stock or cyanogen I would gladly use it.
It all about the widgets (Email especially ) that HTC provides on the sense I like.