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if so, let me hear your story. i get way worse reception (bars, and DB signal) with my fascinate then with my BOLD. and it is getting on my nerves. i was thinking of switching to the x ( i want to stay with android). has anyone done the same thing? notice a diffrence???
thanks
Did a similar switch from the Captivate to the X. Granted, I can't compare signal strength between the two phones because they are two different carriers, but I think you will be much happier with the X. The Galaxy S series kind of feels really cheap to me. And they damage very very easily.
I switched from AT&T to Verizon (Droid X), no more dropped calls, woot
I'm hoping to get some help in making this decision by asking the expert community here at xda. I have a Fascinate now & while it's been fine in most aspects it seems to have connectivity issues with the stock email app. I live & work in a rural area & need this to work reliably. I'm coming from a Droid Eris that had no problem in this area. My 30 days isn't up yet so I can switch to something else if that will solve my problem. All Big Red has done so far is push new prls to the phone. Is the X better with 3g signal reception?
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Keep the fascinating ate. When its all said and done it will get much more attention from the dev community
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I had an X and have a Fascinate and i am considering going back. It is weird.
I like the feel of the fascinate in my hand better. Both devices had/have lag issues but the X seems to be not as bad as the fascinate on lag. I am not sure what I want to do. The Incredible seems to be the least laggy of the 3. I might hang on to the fascinate in hopes of cyanogen coming.
I am torn.
I appreciate the input. How have you found the signal strength of each? For me, it has to come down to day-to-day functionality first and I need to have the best possible connection for data.
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I think the X may be slightly better on reception.
Droid x is a solid phone, but depending on what you want to be able to do with your phone is what you should look at.
Ie, modding custom roms - Fascinate
Solid feel -Droid x
Locked boot loader- droid x
E fuze- droid x
Can you tell that im a little preferential ?
But seriously, the droid x is solid phone if you have no interest in running custom roms.
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I had an X and have a Fascinate and i am considering going back. It is weird.
I like the feel of the fascinate in my hand better. Both devices had/have lag issues but the X seems to be not as bad as the fascinate on lag. I am not sure what I want to do. The Incredible seems to be the least laggy of the 3. I might hang on to the fascinate in hopes of cyanogen coming.
I am torn.
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that about answers my question before even being asked
id go with fascinate
X vs Fascinate
I work in an office where everyone was on Berries or various iOS devices and have slowly been making converts of them all. Most of the guys here carry either Xs or Galaxy S variants for the different networks.
I have a Fascinate and honestly the biggest difference I have found between the two is peripheral support. Moto seems to do a much better job of getting "extra" hardware out and known.
Software wise it is WAY easier to work in and on the fascinate because there is no fear of tripping that fuze or fuse or whatever it is officially called. As far as performance goes, none of us really see much difference although the S seem to have brighter\crisper screens in a wider range of tests.
I've owned both phones, and I prefer the Fascinate. I like it better because it feels better in my hand, and in the end, I think it's going to be a lot more customizable.
Thanks for all the advice. Has anyone noticed any other issues with the Fascinate? How's call quality been? Battery life? Display? Camera? All these areas have threads in the X forums as well & what I'm seeing so far is alot more ex-X owners here than ex-Fascinate owners there. I guess that should tell me something.
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Well, to be fair, the Droid X has also been out longer than the Fascinate so it follows that there are fewer ex-Fascinate owners.
Another tricky thing to consider--the Droid X is going to be EOL'd (end of life) in March of 2011 according to an internal Verizon document leaked via droid-life. Presumably, Motorola will be releasing a refresh or replacement model around that time. However, Moto released updates for the original Droid well after Verizon stopped selling it, whereas Samsung is infamous for halting software support altogether once carrier(s) EOL a device. Whether or not they'll do that with their high-profile Galaxy S line at the cost of their own credibility/brand equity in the global smartphone market remains to be seen.
The consensus in the market is that the X has superior voice call quality and a more accurate GPS. If either of those factors is decisive for you, you might want to just go with the X. Also, its LCD screen displays text more crisply than the SGS' S-AMOLED screens (out of the box anyway), although the still underway Project Voodoo is aiming to help remedy this, but it's not available yet and there's no guarantee that they'll be able to make it superior, just less fuzzy than it currently is. Having said that, if you can live with the text resolution, the display on the SGS devices is truly impressive for image/video and also useable outside in sunlight! Oh and Galaxy S devices are compatible with more codecs and, despite lacking an HDMI outlet and Moto's fancy noise cancellation for phone calls, have a dedicated audio chip that makes for exceptional sound quality for music.
Samsung has promised to get Froyo and other fixes for the Fascinate out by the end of the month. A comprehensive GPS overhaul doesn't appear likely anytime soon, but the form factor is still dreamy and the fact that the bootloader is unlocked means many of the device's shortcomings may find custom ROM solutions more easily than the X.
Essentially, you'll have to decide what your priorities are and trust your own judgment. Good luck!
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I just got my Fascinate this past Sunday and these are some of the things I noticed:
- My GPS works really well in my opinion. Once in a while, it might take like 30 seconds to lock, but the GPS I was using before took just as long, if not longer (although granted, it wasn't a top of the line GPS). In any case, I really don't find any issues with the GPS.
- I don't like where they put the lock/unlock button. I keep accidentally pressing the volume rocker on the other side of the phone. Does anyone else find this annoying?
- I have noticed that reception always seems rather low. Now, I generally don't care much about how many bars of reception are displayed, but when using Google Voice to send text messages, I often get the error "Message could not be sent" and then I'd have to try again and it'd work (and I may end up sending the message twice by accident). This happens many, many times in a day, even when I appear to have good reception or am outside, etc. Does this happen to anyone else?
Anyway, after doing a lot of research between the Fascinate and the Droid X, I agree with the other person that the Fascinate is the best choice if you want to do a lot of customizing, and if you trust in the community, the Fascinate's future has more potential. I think my biggest concern for the Fascinate is the reception, which is the main thing that makes me wonder about switching to the Droid X. Other than Google Voice constantly not being able to send a message, I don't have any major issues with reception (i.e. no dropped calls in unusual places or anything else I can remember). If you don't care too much for customization and control, I'd say go with the Droid X. It is definitely a solid phone, right out of the box.
Other things about the Droid X that may factor into your decision:
- Reported to have a low speaker/ringtone
- Has an LED notification light
- Official Froyo release
I just played with both at a local wireless store. For some reason, the droid x has a lot better reception/signal. It had 5 bars, while the fascinate only had 3. Also, I ran that Speed Test App to see how fast Verizon's 3g was in my town, and the droid x got around 600, while the fascinate only got around 350. Strange. If I had to pick, I would get the droid x simple because: bigger screen, 8gb internal storage, and better signal.
"You are holding it wrong."
I had the Droid X from launch and I have them both sitting here as I type this. One of them has to be shipped back. The Droid X was meant to replace the Fascinate that replaced the Droid X.... lol ... Since the Droid X launch
Droid X (important to add I have a 32GB sd) Rebooting issues
Evo Solid Phone only drawback was space, and that was not serious.
Droid X long fight to get VZW to send me battery, back chargers ( 2 FCC complaints resulted)
Vibrant (2x on $99 dollar day) The best of them all in my opinion. Lol I still have the Avatar movie in hopes of getting past the drm on it. 16gb + 32gb. Only problem T-Mobile Customer service! Sales in English / Customer Support I don't understand English! (FCC to get refund and cancel service)
Droid X minor issues once I recieved a new one
Fascinate 1st brick, 2nd strange shut offs could be setcpu issue in hindsight.
Droid X Froyo update, working well, but (see below)
Fascinate (currently using)
As you can tell I've had some experience on this debate. I mentioned a couple other phones because they do play into my choices.
I wanted to decide between Epic, Vibrant, Fascinate or Droid X. Customer service is a big deal to me. I work for Verizon (not wireless) and this is the first time I'm using my discount on the VZ network.
Epic very nice phone, but small rom. I did have a nice discount and 4g was nice. Very hard not to take this phone
Vibrant ... Customer service killed it
Droid X amazing hardware on this phone. I can even live with the screen not being Super Amoled, but the software is terrible!
locked bootloader
No DLNA support to stream to device. Moov Atom different than most DLNA devices so Mezzmo who would create a profile is useless! Bootloader prevents cifs so not possible to mount drives (or I never found a solution). Only real option is Androstream in my opinion.
The Droid X does shine when it comes to syncing. Moto's Link tool is very nice to be free. I had no problem finding something that worked out of the box.
Fascinate small rom, but codec support is amazing! 5.1 audio. I want the option to listen to music and or watch tv shows on the go like I did with my iPhone through AirVideo. Cifs manager I can mount shares and watch anything! If I needed to I can use Twonky, Tversity, Playon and Mezzemo (they have a profile and it works well). I couldnt send a simple 5 second movie on the DX through mms, just would get an error. Fascinate converts and sends. Once this phone gets flash, native Playon support it will be perfect.
My real complaint is the fact this Version does not have the Kies option in the sync settings for Samsungs sync software. Media Monkey is the best option I've found.
The media hub now works (something happened in last couple days). Able to use my iPhone armband to workout with it as well as my
http://www.amazon.com/Acoustic-Research-ARWH1-Bluetooth-Headset/dp/B00195HS28
I just read that HTC is going to start locking down their phones, so I might stay with Samsung a while.
I put alot of thought into this decision and if not for my just getting an iPad I would have more to say about the media issues.
It's been mentioned before. You want a solid multimedia phone for the average user. Droid X is the way to go.
Honestly buy the Fascinate it comes with a Droid X free! Buy one get one of the same or equal value promotion will always trump the Droid X on its own, I have two this way! You would laugh if you knew how many screen protectors I went through in the last couple of months. Not that I'm hearing the Samsung Tab might be 399 with 2yr or 500-600 instead of the 1k first rumored, I believe that is where my next gadgit fix will go. Google Voice + Whistler = free phone anyway on my iPad, so its going to be interesting what options I have with the Tab.
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I just played with both at a local wireless store. For some reason, the droid x has a lot better reception/signal. It had 5 bars, while the fascinate only had 3. Also, I ran that Speed Test App to see how fast Verizon's 3g was in my town, and the droid x got around 600, while the fascinate only got around 350. Strange. If I had to pick, I would get the droid x simple because: bigger screen, 8gb internal storage, and better signal.
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there is some talk that the DX inflates its signal strength. i have seen a couple of reviews on the web with the DX and the SF next to each other and the SF showed less bars(not only cell but WiFi as well) and the SF was faster. this was also one of the problems with the iplop's signal strength before they claimed they "fixed" it with an update. i messed around with both at the local VZN store and the SF was faster opening apps and on the web. one thing i didnt like about the DX was when swiping to the next screen it always seems to over slide then slide back to center. the SF did not do this, it had a nice smooth slide from screen to screen. as for the screen, yes, the DX is larger but i see that as a down fall. there are times i slip my cell in my pocket and the larger phone is a PITA. i dont want to have to have it in a holster all the time. one shining point of the DX is the miniHDMI out. as it sits the SF doesnt do video out via a cable. of course, i dont have HDMI on my TV so its not that big of an issue. i would have preferred tthat it had the video out like the SF should have once 2.2 comes out(at least im hoping). right now, from where im sitting the SF edges out the DX but not by much. its all in what the end user wants to do with there phone.
I now have voodoo on my Fascinate and I would not go back to the X.
Battery life is on par with the x. The screen and multimedia features se much better than the x. The camera and video quality are much much better on the fascinate. And the fascinate will be much easier to customize. I've had the DInc, X, D2, and now the fascinate. Of all three the only thing I dislike the most about the fascinate is the lack of froyo. We will have that too, soon enough. Not to mention is has the best CPU/GPU combination in the mobile market anywhere. The iPhone 4 is know as a heat gaming phone. Ell guess what, the x has the powerVR SGX 530, the iPhone 4 has the powerVR SGX 535, and last but not least the Fascinate has the POWERVR SGX 540. Not to mention the sixaxis accelerometer. Its a great phone.
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I had a droid x for about a week before i switched to the fascinate. Honestly i wanted to like the droid x but everything just felt slower on it. I had an epic before i dropped sprint for verizon and moving to the droid x felt like a step backwards. Even running the blurless roms for the droid x i still noticed little hitches all over the place where my epic had been totally smooth. To be fair though the gps and battery were better om the droid x for me, but i just felt like the entire system was slower in comparison to the galaxy s phones. I am really enjoying the fascinate so far though, gets better batery life than my epic did plus its so damn thin i've had a lot of peole comment on how nice this phone looks and i agree.
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not to start a flame war either way but anyone had a droidx before? I'm on the fence of keeping my g2 or flipping to vzw. coverage for hspa is awesome when i have it but some places, like my work desk... i get edge, which is annoying. i know its not really apples/apples but they're both pretty solid devices and in my experience (especially travelling/roadtrips/outside of metro areas) network differences. of course there's cost differences associated with that.
anyways if anyone is coming from that to a g2 i'd love to hear what you think.
fwiw i like the g2 so far, if i could rock the hspa everywhere it would make me extremely happy. my hinges arent the tighest, but the device is responsive. i wish it had more led blinking options (maybe with the charge led?) but i hope those are to come. (im coming from a g1)
I actually flipped to vzw for a month and had first a Droid 2, then an Incredible. My experience in my area is that vzw sucks balls indoors and I could not get 3G without propping the phone a certain way in a weird spot on my desk. Returned both those phones within 30 days and cancelled my contract. Went back to TMO and have had excellent reception indoors and out with my Blackberry 9700. But that is just in my area, and isn't really answering your question about the X. My friend has an X but I'm not really a fan of Motoblur and the form factor of the X is not for me. I have a G2 still in the box getting ready to play with this weekend. If I can get HSPA+ at my desk I will be in nerd heaven.
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I actually flipped to vzw for a month and had first a Droid 2, then an Incredible. My experience in my area is that vzw sucks balls indoors and I could not get 3G without propping the phone a certain way in a weird spot on my desk. Returned both those phones within 30 days and cancelled my contract. Went back to TMO and have had excellent reception indoors and out with my Blackberry 9700. But that is just in my area, and isn't really answering your question about the X. My friend has an X but I'm not really a fan of Motoblur and the form factor of the X is not for me. I have a G2 still in the box getting ready to play with this weekend. If I can get HSPA+ at my desk I will be in nerd heaven.
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I have a friend who is thinking about the droid incredible. What were your impressions as far as the device is concerned aside from the service?
Sorry OP, don't mean to thread jack.
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I had the Droid 2 for a few weeks but went back to T-Mobile.... 2 things that made me go back. (their coverage is truly great though)
BUt the 3G speeds are NOT there.... trust me I had to wait forever for youtube to load. I was getting barely 1.5 MBps
Verizon is also expensive compared to t-mobile... but thats only worth is if you live in a area with bad reception.
I had the Droid 2, it was a good phone but G2 deff better than the D2 in everywhere. Plus the motoblur is crapped everywhere in the phone, but you can root and put vanilla rom on it.
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I have a friend who is thinking about the droid incredible. What were your impressions as far as the device is concerned aside from the service?
Sorry OP, don't mean to thread jack.
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The Incredible is a very, very nice device, especially if you are a fan of Sense. It is pretty much loaded to the gills with everything HTC has to offer, and that is a good thing IMO. The UI is lightning quick, pinch to zoom on any homescreen flicks up a card style grid of all the homescreens...it does this as fast as the iphone can scroll and is just as fluid. The Sense widgets are really polished and I could certainly live with them even though I prefer stock Android. The amoled screen is sweet, although I thought reds and oranges looked over-saturated and unnatural. The screen is more viewable in sunlight than you might have heard, but it is not iphone or blackberry bright...at all. The 8mp camera is awesome, and during the time I owned it I got the OTA Froyo update and the new HD video recorder was pretty good, not spectacular. I would highly recommend the device to your friend if he is on vzw, over the Droid 2 by a long way, over the X by a little, and maybe a toss-up with the Fascinate. Or he could wait for vzw's LTE roll-out and enjoy 4G speeds as we are now doing on our G2's!!!! He might even get a vzw iPhone if that is his thing.
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The Incredible is a very, very nice device, especially if you are a fan of Sense. It is pretty much loaded to the gills with everything HTC has to offer, and that is a good thing IMO. The UI is lightning quick, pinch to zoom on any homescreen flicks up a card style grid of all the homescreens...it does this as fast as the iphone can scroll and is just as fluid. The Sense widgets are really polished and I could certainly live with them even though I prefer stock Android. The amoled screen is sweet, although I thought reds and oranges looked over-saturated and unnatural. The screen is more viewable in sunlight than you might have heard, but it is not iphone or blackberry bright...at all. The 8mp camera is awesome, and during the time I owned it I got the OTA Froyo update and the new HD video recorder was pretty good, not spectacular. I would highly recommend the device to your friend if he is on vzw, over the Droid 2 by a long way, over the X by a little, and maybe a toss-up with the Captivate. Or he could wait for vzw's LTE roll-out and enjoy 4G speeds as we are now doing on our G2's!!!! He might even get a vzw iPhone if that is his thing.
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Thanks! Very informative.
My friend is a very casual user. He has a good upgrade deal for the incredible to buy 1 get 1 free so after playing with my g2 he started to get the itch. He wants to have a go with android. He will be pleased to here your review.
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ive played with the incredible for a short period as a friend has it, it was snappy and worked well, but didn't really have enough exposure to really give good feedback (so disregard this sentence haha). i do like the extra screen real estate of the dx, albeit humongous to some, so the incredible isn't really an option for me. the coverage issues is almost opposite of keithRVA where i have teetering signal in my house (when usually signal hopping is more frustrating, but the g2 is WORLDS faster than the g1 was at picking signals, not surprising) and the same but worse bouncing, at my desk (down the hall 15' works fine, not helpful but still....) theres certain parts around where i live where there's no hspa, but mostly otherwise if im outside, its good. the cost increase for vzw is not a huge difference but enough that i could eat an ETF every year so it is a factor.
fwiw in playing with the droid2, i think its not at all a contender, mostly due to the keyboard which is entirely worthless so i'd rather have the larger screen and slimmer packaging.
First off I'd like to say I'm thankful for everything the devs here do. I've tried the 3g fix and it didn't do anything, so now I'm just curious if there is anything else out there that fixes it.
I'm on the newest DL09 and the problem is still there. Bad reception. I'm serious when I say I get full 3g bars maybe 1% of the time, and I'm dead center in a verizon 3g area. I've never seen a signal jump around as much as on the fascinate. It will switch between 3g and 1x constantly throughout the day, and when it's on 3g it looks like the bars are dancing all day long because they just jump around.
My original Droid will have a steady 5 bars pretty much all day. Fascinate...not even close. It's getting ridiculous actually. I can download updates for apps on my droid no problem, but I actually wait til I get home on my wifi to download updates on my fascinate. I constantly get "stuck" loading a page on the net because of the ridiculous reception.
Now my question is...is there any fix out there that actually works that I might have skipped over? Good reception is a HUGE thing, especially when I'm dead center in a 3g area, and the fascinate doesn't have it. I'm thinking about selling it in the next few days because it's absolutely crazy.
People complain all day long about the GPS and no froyo...and I'm actually confused as to why many do not complain about the reception. That's the biggest issue with the phone IMO.
Thanks for any help.
Have you actually tried contacting Verizon about it? It sounds like you've got an antenna issue, which should be pretty easily addressed with a phone swap.
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Have you actually tried contacting Verizon about it? It sounds like you've got an antenna issue, which should be pretty easily addressed with a phone swap.
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My friends has the same issue, and I've seen people complain about it before. So I think it's a fairly common issue.
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First off I'd like to say I'm thankful for everything the devs here do. I've tried the 3g fix and it didn't do anything, so now I'm just curious if there is anything else out there that fixes it.
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Thanks for any help.
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I'm assuming you tried the reprogramming codes?
http://www.ehow.com/how_4532332_reprogram-verizon-phone.html
probably the 1st thing you tried, but just checking. I know for me, i went from being in the -102 range (1 bar) to -89 range (2 to 3) at work. Also at home i went from -92 to -51 (MAX)
You did option 2 correct?
Just did option 2 and it seems to have done nothing. Going back and forth between -96 and -101
If you dont see people compalining about reception, its largely due to the fact that the phone doesnt really suffer from reception issues. If I were you, I'd call verizon and make a formal complaint about the hardware restricting your usage, I'm sure they will work with you.
I'm a sales rep at a Verizon corporate store, 4 of my co-workers have Fascinates and we ALL experience a MAJOR difference in signal quality compared to co-workers with Droid X's and Droid 2's...
There's a five page thread on droidforums (fascinate section) about every single person in that thread having reception issues on the fascinate. And if you do a "fascinate reception issue" search on google, there are threads everywhere about that.
I just have a feeling everyone is focused on froyo and GPS so that's why reception isn't brought up much. I highly doubt, with as many people that have this problem, that it's just a problem on some of the galaxy s phones.
agreed bro i lose signal from my bars are really sporadic
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agreed bro i lose signal from my bars are really sporadic
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Yeah it's very frustrating.
What's even more frustrating is even when I get 4 full bars I only get -89 on the mobile signal widget..that's far from max reception.
I've never had reception problems per se but I have full bars and 73 dbm. Also for some reason my 3g download rate is nerfed. Earlier today on speed test got 63 kbps and 462 ping dunno why. Mostly hovers in the 300kbps range
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Have you actually tried contacting Verizon about it? It sounds like you've got an antenna issue, which should be pretty easily addressed with a phone swap.
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I've had two phones now, and they both have very poor signal strength. Comparing my Fascinate to a friends Droid, sitting just a few inches apart, he had a dbm in the mid to high -70's, while mine was in the high -90's.
If you're in a solid coverage area, it gets fine reception and you're not likely to see the problem, but as you travel into a lower signal area, the Fascinate trails off very, very sharply. Even though I live in an area with supposedly blanket coverage, my house is towards the bottom of a small hill and I typically get zero or 1 bars on the display, every once in a while 2, but it'll drop back to 1 or 0 as soon as I pick the phone it.
The Fascinate does have a very week antennae design.
I rarely see 3 or 4 bars...come to think of it, I don't think i've ever seen 3 or 4 bars. This is when I'm in an area which should definitely have excellent coverage.
OP: do you have actual symptoms of poor signal like slow down/up load or dropped calls?
My speed tests when i have 1bar 3G are about 800Mbits up and 500Mbits down. Never dropped a call (rarely make calls, though). I have read that some folks suspect that the Fascinate has reporting issues? I don't know...but since I'm not seeing horrible speeds I've tried ignoring the fact that its always reporting 1-2 bars.
Kind of similar to the TWoS thing. I chased this one for a little bit too before dismissing it as a reporting issue (for now).
I originally was upset about the reception but came to realize that the office building I work in is built like a bunker. Other then when I am in the center of the building I get good reception, at my desk near a window I get 1-3 bars. However anytime other then when I am in this building I almost always have full bars.
However I have noticed that when I am in my office what ever bars I get my friends droid gets one more. But when it comes down to that it isn't Verizon...again the problem is with Samsung.
Hey guys,
what if I did option 1 instead of option 2 in *228 reprogramming?
On another note, my 3g indicator constantly disappears in verizon hotspot areas, it is really quite the annoyance.
Are you on a stock kernel?
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Negative, I'm on Dl09 supah clean with adry's 12/30 test kernel.
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The reception for my Fascinate isn't spectacular. I don't know how it ranks among smart phones, but there is a definite difference between it and my chocolate 8550. In known holes in vzw's coverage I occasionally lose signal, but I don't use it as a phone enough to drop many calls.
However, I spend the majority of my time in strong signal environs, so it doesn't really come up as an issue for me, and I just accept it. It will be a decision factor for my next phone though.
Maybe others have a similar situation: worse yes, but liveable.
Swyped w/ XDA App. When in doubt, mumble.
I have noticed the signal over the past 24 hours has been jumping all over the place like Verizon may be running tests or something. The drop being very consistent intervals of no bars but still 3g.
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My brother has Fascinate as do I and out of the Box his got 2 more bars than mine and his almost always has more signal.
Remember this was before I started rooting and all that.
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I've had my Verizon LG G2 for four days. It seems that the phone data signal mostly stays at 1-2 bars. It's mainly on 4G, but there are times that it drops to 3G, even 1X. I have run side by side tests with an S4 where its signal icon is at least a bar higher and is always on 4G.
Does the G2 have a weaker antenna than the S4? Or could I have a faulty phone?
Here's another thing, MMS messages seems to take between 30-45 seconds to send. I am a new Verizon subscriber, but when I was on Sprint my phones rarely took this long to send an MMS. Is the length of time my phone takes to send an MMS normal for Verizon?
Lastly, my phone heats up to the point of getting hot whenever I'm on a call for more than 5 minutes or whenever I send multiple MMS messages. If I took the phone back to the Verizon corp store where it was purchases, would it qualify for a new replacement?
Thanks in advance.
I don't see any of that on mine and the signal is much better than my old GNEX.
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My G2 gets 2-3 bars indoors where I work, where my GNex would struggle just to keep one bar. If I go outside, it gets a full 4-5 bars and good speed too (I hit 43.8 mbps just this afternoon on Speed Test). Granted, the GNex's radio hardware sucked, but I don't find the G2's to be a disappointment at all.
For a better comparison than number of bars, you can go to Settings -> About Phone -> Network -> Network Type and Strength. It breaks it down by 4G (data) and 1X (voice) signals. Numbers closer to zero are better, so for instance -50 dBm is a much better signal than -100 dBm. Not sure where this is on the S4, but it should be in a similar place.
Well I got mine on Wednesday, came from the RAZR maxx HD. I an day mine is much better than the maxx hg. The interior of my building at work I couldn't get a signal with my HD, it would drop to 1x and sometimes no signal. This phone keeps 4g in the same spot. My office with the HD was OK, slow internet but kept 4g. This phone works perfect there too.
I think you have a faulty one.
Be careful comparing different UI's. When I was swapping back and forth between sense and aosp sense showed 5 bars and aosp showed 2 >_>. Artificial Inflation!!!
I actually haven't even made a call or sent an MMS on my G2, so I can't comment on those
Verizon signal on mine seems better than my gs4. I've dropped to 3g only once in the weeks I've had this and that's because there was a huge verizon outage in NJ
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Ya where I work I would get 3g in the middle of the building on the s4 but now on the g2 it is always 4g
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Gnex has 2 bars of 4g, G2 has 3 bars of 3g. Sitting next to each other.
Only bad thing for me.
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Gnex has 2 bars of 4g, G2 has 3 bars of 3g. Sitting next to each other.
Only bad thing for me.
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same network?
also the artificial inflation above. If the 5 bars were more accurate then the 2 bars were off. And thats not just ui, its modem ,rom, phone, tied into circumstances and networks lol. On previous phones I noticed that itsnot as straight forward.
For me reception/in call quality/network speeds on g2 has gotten better then on all previous phones.
On Verizon curently have razr hd and note2. Thinking of G2. So you guys that have had them for awhile how is data reception? My Razr is top notch there but a little slow on everything else. My note2 is fast as lightining but lacks a bit compared to Razr in data reception. Im in a poor coverage area for about 7 months out of the year and need good 3G 4G reception. So how about it how good is the G2? Thanks
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On Verizon curently have razr hd and note2. Thinking of G2. So you guys that have had them for awhile how is data reception? My Razr is top notch there but a little slow on everything else. My note2 is fast as lightining but lacks a bit compared to Razr in data reception. Im in a poor coverage area for about 7 months out of the year and need good 3G 4G reception. So how about it how good is the G2? Thanks
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Just came from a razr, the difference is night and day. In addition, the razr doesn't give accurate measurements of signal. The G2 has been more accurate, has a better signal, and is faster.
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Just came from a razr, the difference is night and day. In addition, the razr doesn't give accurate measurements of signal. The G2 has been more accurate, has a better signal, and is faster.
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That's really good to here my HD is really good for signal its just hasn't got the power or I should say processor to do the job. I'm unlocked rooted and over clocked to 1890. It works but its really struggling. If the G2 will give me good signal strength its twice the phone my HD is out the box. Thanks.
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That's really good to here my HD is really good for signal its just hasn't got the power or I should say processor to do the job. I'm unlocked rooted and over clocked to 1890. It works but its really struggling. If the G2 will give me good signal strength its twice the phone my HD is out the box. Thanks.
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I thought the signal on my razr was good also, until I got the G2. I have been going to a doctor's office for the last 4 months. My razr would always have 1 bar of 4G, but the speeds were more like evdo. I would always have to jump on the free wifi. My G2 on the other hand has 4G when it says 4G. I don't use the wifi anymore because it's actually slower than 4G.
As for the power, it has easily run everything I've thrown at it. Even programs that slowed my razr almost to a stop. Night and day.
My only real problem with the G2 was the phone call quality. I think it is something that is really skimmed over in most reviews, when it should be a priority. I mean, after all, it is a phone. On the razr, phone calls were clean and clear like I was in the same room or at worst, 1 over. On the G2, calls are more bassy and it sounds like there is some distance between me and the caller, if that makes any sense. I actually feel like I'm on a phone. I do have to ask people to repeat themselves more often, but not so much that it's a hassle. Most of the time call quality is actually pretty good, but after using Motorolas since the OG droid, it just doesn't feel right at times. One good thing, is I occasionally hold the phone between my head and shoulder with very little problems. On the razr, I just couldn't do that comfortably because the callers on the other side wouldn't be able to hear me. Hasn't happened yet with the G2.
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I thought the signal on my razr was good also, until I got the G2. I have been going to a doctor's office for the last 4 months. My razr would always have 1 bar of 4G, but the speeds were more like evdo. I would always have to jump on the free wifi. My G2 on the other hand has 4G when it says 4G. I don't use the wifi anymore because it's actually slower than 4G.
As for the power, it has easily run everything I've thrown at it. Even programs that slowed my razr almost to a stop. Night and day.
My only real problem with the G2 was the phone call quality. I think it is something that is really skimmed over in most reviews, when it should be a priority. I mean, after all, it is a phone. On the razr, phone calls were clean and clear like I was in the same room or at worst, 1 over. On the G2, calls are more bassy and it sounds like there is some distance between me and the caller, if that makes any sense. I actually feel like I'm on a phone. I do have to ask people to repeat themselves more often, but not so much that it's a hassle. Most of the time call quality is actually pretty good, but after using Motorolas since the OG droid, it just doesn't feel right at times. One good thing, is I occasionally hold the phone between my head and shoulder with very little problems. On the razr, I just couldn't do that comfortably because the callers on the other side wouldn't be able to hear me. Hasn't happened yet with the G2.
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Your really selling me but that's what I like to here not how many KB download I got but where I get 4G now that I didn't get before. That is more of a test of how the phone is working than what it says on a gauge. Going to start getting one tomorrow I don't have an upgrade coming up and it wouldn't matter because I'm on u.limited and font want to loose it so it's full price or probably find a new in box on eBay and save the tx and a bit more. Should be able to pick one up for about $475. Thanks Again.
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On Verizon curently have razr hd and note2. Thinking of G2. So you guys that have had them for awhile how is data reception? My Razr is top notch there but a little slow on everything else. My note2 is fast as lightining but lacks a bit compared to Razr in data reception. Im in a poor coverage area for about 7 months out of the year and need good 3G 4G reception. So how about it how good is the G2? Thanks
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My wife has the razr maxx, I'm coming from the maxx hd. On fringe areas, it's almost the same. This last week, where I was, I could kinda make phone calls, texts are in and out with the G2. I was in the same place a few weeks ago with the maxx hd and it was the exact same. About 2 weeks ago I was in the same place as my wife and hers kept the signal a little longer on the maxx than my G2. And the dbs were a little lower on hers, maybe 5db, indicating a little better service. The G2 does a little better than the maxx hd inside a building tho, it keeps 4g where my maxx didn't at one place at work.
Overall I would say it's a wash I'm my experience. But I use a Bluetooth and the Bluetooth connection is a little better.
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Your really selling me but that's what I like to here not how many KB download I got but where I get 4G now that I didn't get before. That is more of a test of how the phone is working than what it says on a gauge. Going to start getting one tomorrow I don't have an upgrade coming up and it wouldn't matter because I'm on u.limited and font want to loose it so it's full price or probably find a new in box on eBay and save the tx and a bit more. Should be able to pick one up for about $475. Thanks Again.
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I was in the same boat. I got mine on ebay for $508 with the quick window case and screen protectors. Mine was listed as used, but it was better condition than a lot of the so called new ones. Less than an hour of use, compared to new auctions with less than a week of use.
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I was in the same boat. I got mine on ebay for $508 with the quick window case and screen protectors. Mine was listed as used, but it was better condition than a lot of the so called new ones. Less than an hour of use, compared to new auctions with less than a week of use.
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Thanks for your reply started shopping last night. Maybe I can find a good buy it now deal like you font mind paying for it long as its good.
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My wife has the razr maxx, I'm coming from the maxx hd. On fringe areas, it's almost the same. This last week, where I was, I could kinda make phone calls, texts are in and out with the G2. I was in the same place a few weeks ago with the maxx hd and it was the exact same. About 2 weeks ago I was in the same place as my wife and hers kept the signal a little longer on the maxx than my G2. And the dbs were a little lower on hers, maybe 5db, indicating a little better service. The G2 does a little better than the maxx hd inside a building tho, it keeps 4g where my maxx didn't at one place at work.
Overall I would say it's a wash I'm my experience. But I use a Bluetooth and the Bluetooth connection is a little better.
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Thanks started shopping last night if its as good as RAZR that's about all a guy could ask for. I would guess from the specs she should be pretty fast that's one hell of a processor.
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Thanks for your reply started shopping last night. Maybe I can find a good buy it now deal like you font mind paying for it long as its good.
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Actually, I sniped an auction. I have the timing down perfect on the mobile app.
harrychimp said:
I've had my Verizon LG G2 for four days. It seems that the phone data signal mostly stays at 1-2 bars. It's mainly on 4G, but there are times that it drops to 3G, even 1X. I have run side by side tests with an S4 where its signal icon is at least a bar higher and is always on 4G.
Does the G2 have a weaker antenna than the S4? Or could I have a faulty phone?
Here's another thing, MMS messages seems to take between 30-45 seconds to send. I am a new Verizon subscriber, but when I was on Sprint my phones rarely took this long to send an MMS. Is the length of time my phone takes to send an MMS normal for Verizon?
Lastly, my phone heats up to the point of getting hot whenever I'm on a call for more than 5 minutes or whenever I send multiple MMS messages. If I took the phone back to the Verizon corp store where it was purchases, would it qualify for a new replacement?
Thanks in advance.
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I have had the same issue as you all did. I have an old sims card that was in my old droid 4 phone. My coverage kept losing 4g and no matter what I did no 4g in sight. I have a sims card that came with the lg g2 and after a long time of suffering with this problem I called tech support. He tracked down the problem to the sims card I had in the phone. Long story short the problem lies in the old sims card. The old card was primary a 3g card so the device would try to go to 4g and it did on a temp basis but after a 2 to 3 minute period it would never go back to 4g without the reboot. I had tech support check it out and after we activated the proper sims card...poof... all better! The problem lies in the sims card. Call tech support and it will fix your problem. Hope this helps everyone by offering a solution and exposing the problem so everyone understands the issue..