After seeing JI5 and JI6 come out today, and hearing that the new updates fixed the GPS issue, I decided that I wanted to update.
But, I have a Mac.
Is there anyway to get this to work with a Mac or at least on Parallels? I am not going to go to all the trouble to get boot camp just for this purpose.
It worries me that when the full froyo comes out that I won't be able to upgrade to that either.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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After seeing JI5 and JI6 come out today, and hearing that the new updates fixed the GPS issue, I decided that I wanted to update.
But, I have a Mac.
Is there anyway to get this to work with a Mac or at least on Parallels? I am not going to go to all the trouble to get boot camp just for this purpose.
It worries me that when the full froyo comes out that I won't be able to upgrade to that either.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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The thing to keep in mind is that Samsung Kies is *NOT* a supported update method for any of the U.S. market Galaxy S phones. The only method officially supported by the 4 U.S. carriers is OTA updates.
In other words, anything crazy people like me (and a few others obviously LOL) find via Kies, or Samfirmwares.com, or modaco, or wherever...are likely to be leaked builds (not final builds) and builds that are not involved with official OTA updates.
Though we may eventually luck up on getting what ends up being OTA updates to 2.1 and 2.2 between now and whenever by doing these things, there are no guarantees.
Now, having said that, you are most likely to receive what ends up being an OTA update from HERE, due to the way OTA updates are staged out in batches. Just because an OTA update goes live on a given date does not mean that every single solitary phone will receive the update that day. It could take days or weeks for your phone to fall into a push batch for an OTA.
So, it depends on what you want to do. If you want to tweak, tinker, and experiment, you're going to have to have a Windows environment at this stage of things.
If you want to just enjoy your phone and be able to get an OTA when one drops...Just wait until it drops and with a dose of patience you'll be fine.
I dohave mac.. but that doesn't stop me from loading os.. I know for sure that someone on the development section will make a flashable version of it in which you use via rom manager or clockworkmod..
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I dohave mac.. but that doesn't stop me from loading os.. I know for sure that someone on the development section will make a flashable version of it in which you use via rom manager or clockworkmod..
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Rom Manager/Clockwork installable zips are made for EASE, not rock-solid-guaranteed-to-have-an-exit-strategy-reliability. Not that clockwork recovery is unreliable, but if you think that clockwork recovery is enough and will always save your bacon, your mistaken.
Even this can have its problems, especially if you encounter problems with a newer build and decide to (mistakenly) nandroid back to a JFD based build.
All of these newer builds are using a newer kernel, and nandroid will not restore a kernel. This is the reason WHY so many people had problems with JI5 dropping today because they didn't do their homework.
They see people like me, and others of course, who jump in and are successful with it. But I and a lot of people leave "understood" and obvious (to us) things unsaid because we at least vaguely think we know what we're doing LOL. And we are fully aware of the need for a reliable Odin setup as a necessary strategy to be this carefree with firmware testing.
At the end of the day, assuming you had a hardware button working Vibrant, the only way out of a bad scenario is Odin3. And that requires a Windows environment.
If you're going to hack android devices, rather than simply use them and rely on your provider for OTA's....you need a windows environment....or you had best really be on top of what your doing and be very careful. The need to have Odin available as a backup strategy when things go wrong really isn't optional.
Although I haven't tried it, I'm not completely sure that Odin won't work in a WINE bottle.
I'll give it a shot when I go home tonight and post a tutorial tomorrow if in does in fact work. I've read where it didn't recognize the Behold II's download mode under linux, but I'm giving it a shot either way.
i have an imac, had it for almost a year now. wouldnt trade it for a thing, but as a mac users; we need to realize, we can never ever ever push windows out of our life... ever. kinda defeats the purpose of buying and owning a mac, i know...
but still, i used odin on my sons laptop so i can get ji5.
I haven't had time to try it on my Mac, but on Linux you can use Virtualbox (free download from Sun/Oracle) to create a Windows XP VM to flash with Odin. It's pretty easy. I think Odin needs the Samsung drivers, so you might not be able to use Wine.
US updates are OTA--as said above. No need to use the computer.
Having said that, I run OS X 10.4 and I know I cannot really do anything with it. I wait for solid builds to come out/keep it simple/research any time I want to mess around inside the code. I bricked a phone and had to use a friend's computer to try and get ODIN to restore.
Bottom-line: If you are OS X dependent, USE CAUTION!!!
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US updates are OTA--as said above. No need to use the computer.
Having said that, I run OS X 10.4 and I know I cannot really do anything with it. I wait for solid builds to come out/keep it simple/research any time I want to mess around inside the code. I bricked a phone and had to use a friend's computer to try and get ODIN to restore.
Bottom-line: If you are OS X dependent, USE CAUTION!!!
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Question: When's the last time you got an update OTA?
Having said that, I run OS X 10.4 and I know I cannot really do anything with it.
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10.4?!! You're running a PPC mac and yes, there's nothing that YOU can do with it. That said, don't give you false advice to others.
jonjacobmoon said:
After seeing JI5 and JI6 come out today, and hearing that the new updates fixed the GPS issue, I decided that I wanted to update.
But, I have a Mac.
Is there anyway to get this to work with a Mac or at least on Parallels? I am not going to go to all the trouble to get boot camp just for this purpose.
It worries me that when the full froyo comes out that I won't be able to upgrade to that either.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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First, any official update will be an OTA and therefore will not need a computer. So the fact you're on a Mac won't be an issue at all.
Second, just do BootCamp. It's not really much of a hassle at all, and it's the best experience you can have running Windows on a Mac. I used to run into a lot of driver issues running Windows XP / Vista / 7 through Parallels and VMWare. Plus with how slow it ran and the amount of resources it ate up, I decided to go BootCamp and never looked back. Trust me, it's worth it.
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Question: When's the last time you got an update OTA?
10.4?!! You're running a PPC mac and yes, there's nothing that YOU can do with it. That said, don't give you false advice to others.
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Right..false advice. Good luck with that. This isn't my first rodeo...i love my 10.4 but it is pretty useless as per odin. You need a good platform if anything goes wrong.
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And yes, you will need to run parallels et al. Or rock a non osx device for an easier time.
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And yes, you will need to run parallels et al. Or rock a non osx device for an easier time.
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Odin does not recognize our phones in VMware or Parallels. Your only solution is boot camp. I don't now why you're moaning that it's so hard to install. It's literally 3 clicks, then you insert your Windows disk and reboot. If you want to play with leaked firmware, you're going to have to get over yourself.
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So I got the Vibrant the other day and for the most part I absolutely love the phone. Feels like I'm holding a light sabre or a magic wand. The thing is just so powerful. I have been reading up as much as possible on how to flash ROMs and root. A month ago I'd never even heard of this stuff and now I feel like I at least have a basic knowledge....just don't have the balls to attempt it yet. I want to make sure I know what I'm doing.
So in the meantime (while I work on growing a pair and actually doing it) I want to update to the Tmob 2.2 froyo official. I have read that if I do this I won't be able to get in download or recovery mode. Is this correct? And if this is correct then does that mean it will be impossible to flash roms after updating?
I just want a little performance boost and have my system a little snappier til I decide if I'm gonna flash some roms or not. Anyone know the answer?
Thanks fellas
If you can muster the balls to get the official 2.2, just flash team whiskey s bionix. Its better, easier, more reliable, better supported, and looks cooler. Don't be scared, follow directions and its easy!! GL!
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In all seriousness, you're far better off flashing the latest Bionix-v than you are the "official" 2.2. Having done both, you are far more likely to have an issue during the update process using that garbage mini Kies program than you are rooting and flashing. I rooted and flashed 4 different ROMS without issue. Then I used ODIN to go back to stock because I wanted to see the official release.
4 hours later I was able to get my phone back to a usable state. Between driver issues and crappy software (Kies), it just wasn't worth it. And after using my buddies Vibrant that was running the official release, it was way slower and less usable than most of the latest ROMS offered here.
You should root and then flash the latest Whiskey or Axura ROM and be done with it. The devs here have given us a far better experience and options on our phones than Samsung has.
Actually, the official 2.2 tmo update got rid of the hardware lock for me. I couldn't get into recovery or download mode out the box. The previous JI6 update through Kies mini didn't help. Since I am no longer hardware locked, I'll probably flash some roms. I am pretty dissappointed with this official update after that long wait.
I agree with the other comments that just getting one of the better/faster ROMs here is going to be what you want. As for your question about getting the "official" update and then being able to flash, that's what I did so it should work for you with just a little reading.
I disagree...I love team whiskey and all the other custom roms and even used them for a long time. But right now I have been using stock 2.2 ka7 with voodoo kernel and it is really fast and snappy. I like the stock look as well and haven't experienced any bugs or slowdowns since I installed this rom ...my suggestion: if you want stock....then read up a bit and Odin to ka7...mini lies is the worst program invented and it only flashes you to ka6
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Don't download the official! Take your time, read a lot, grow a pair and then execute! You'll be alright. confidence comes from research and doing. Everyone was nervous at one point.
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tmo throws people in jail for flashing custom roms making our phones super amazin and they dont want that so remember to odin back when u bring ur phone for warranty
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In all seriousness, you're far better off flashing the latest Bionix-v than you are the "official" 2.2. Having done both, you are far more likely to have an issue during the update process using that garbage mini Kies program than you are rooting and flashing. I rooted and flashed 4 different ROMS without issue. Then I used ODIN to go back to stock because I wanted to see the official release.
4 hours later I was able to get my phone back to a usable state. Between driver issues and crappy software (Kies), it just wasn't worth it. And after using my buddies Vibrant that was running the official release, it was way slower and less usable than most of the latest ROMS offered here.
You should root and then flash the latest Whiskey or Axura ROM and be done with it. The devs here have given us a far better experience and options on our phones than Samsung has.
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The only time you'll have an issue is if you're too dumb to turn on debug mode. And most of those people who are too dumb to do that were likely too dumb to read the threads where it was repeated ad nauseum to turn debug mode on...
Turn on Debug Mode
Update
Format Internal SD
Factory Reset
Enjoy.
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The only time you'll have an issue is if you're too dumb to turn on debug mode. And most of those people who are too dumb to do that were likely too dumb to read the threads where it was repeated ad nauseum to turn debug mode on...
Turn on Debug Mode
Update
Format Internal SD
Factory Reset
Enjoy.
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Well thank goodness you aren't talking about me because I did have debugging mode turned on! And then mini Kies started to update the firmware, then it decided to crap the bed at about 75% and turned the phone into a confused jumble of uselessness.
But I guess you were there so I'll let you tell everyone how I recovered it.
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tmo throws people in jail for flashing custom roms making our phones super amazin and they dont want that so remember to odin back when u bring ur phone for warranty
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What the heck are you talking about?!
So thanks to some of the competent answers from guys in here and a leap of faith and trusting my extensive research (I read way too many threads about rooting, flashing, odin, custom roms, etc..), I am now rooted and have backed up my system. To be honest I'm almost just happy with that. While completeing this process I ran into a few questions that I didn't have the answer for mainly revolving around wheter to reboot or reinstall from recovery mode whether it be clockwork or samsung.
I posted a question in the Q and A forum about it (so I apologize for the kinda double post but this is more of a update on my progress) but whats the deal with update.zip file? I don't know when to reinstall it from recovery and when to delete it once the phone has booted. Should I delete it every time I have booted back up or does it even matter?
Thanks guys. I'm the kind of guy that, once I have the knowledge I am just as willing to share. Hopefully a year from now I'll be in your shoes and able to help others.
Next up after the update.zip question is resolved in my mind I plan to flash to bionix v. Official froyo 2.2 be damned lol
You use Clockwork Recovery to backup or flash anything. Sometimes you will get the Samsung recovery and you'll need to select reinstall packages to get to Clockwork. Sometimes you'll even need to reinstall packages twice.
Leave the update.zip on your sd. That's a necessary file for Clockwork.
Sorry if this isn't the right place to post this but I figured I'd post this experience I had trying to upgrade the firmware on my Sprint Galaxy tab so that other might benefit.
Here goes; I got a brand new galaxy tab with the dj30 firmware on it. I rooted it and did the wifi supplicants trip to get adhoc networks going. Nothing too strange. Then the system tried to auto updated itself to ea24 which I let it. But after I checked it it seems that the upgrade couldn't get through. This process would repeat itself on a regular basis.
I didn't think much about it until I heard that netflix could be played on certain android devices and I of course wanted to play it on my tab. I side loaded it, changed the system props and saw that it still couldn't play. My first attempt to load a custom rom(the ginger for gsm failed, yes I know they're incompatible)which bricked the phone. What then followed was an orgy of flashing anything vaguely related to the tab to get it to at least power on. The only thing that would work was the dj30 base image.
Now I'm back to square one except that my navigation system no longer works so I flash modem.bin from ea24 which fixed the gps. My tab tried to auto update itself to ea24 like it usually tries to do but this time SUCCESS!. Then two more ota updates came after that and worked just as well.
I think flashing the modem might have been what got the upgrade process going.
Sorry if this is a little long I just figured it might be useful to anyone in the same situation.
Can you Pls point me in the direction to get thus modem? I too am having this problem. [email protected]. Pls email it to me if you have. THANKS
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Can you Pls point me in the direction to get thus modem? I too am having this problem. [email protected]. Pls email it to me if you have. THANKS
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Hey Cruton. Seems you and I are in the same position. I'm also stuck on DJ30. Managed to upgrade to rooted gingerbread, but market and browser fc no matter what I try. Your suggestion is something I haven't tried yet. Could you elaborate a bit more? I tried flashing modem.bin (from the EA24 updater) but it freezes up. Do I load it under "phone" in odin? Also, which version were you using?
Cruton. Thank you so much for going through the effort of posting your experience. You have saved my tab. I didn't know what to do anymore. Your trick worked, received all updates OTA and then I received gingerbread OTA. Everything stable and running after two weeks of trying absolutely everything (as I was in EXACTLY the same position as you, so you know how frustrating it is). I wish I could buy you a beer man. Thanks again.
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Cruton. Thank you so much for going through the effort of posting your experience. You have saved my tab. I didn't know what to do anymore. Your trick worked, received all updates OTA and then I received gingerbread OTA. Everything stable and running after two weeks of trying absolutely everything (as I was in EXACTLY the same position as you, so you know how frustrating it is). I wish I could buy you a beer man. Thanks again.
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Viparo said:
Hey Cruton. Seems you and I are in the same position. I'm also stuck on DJ30. Managed to upgrade to rooted gingerbread, but market and browser fc no matter what I try. Your suggestion is something I haven't tried yet. Could you elaborate a bit more? I tried flashing modem.bin (from the EA24 updater) but it freezes up. Do I load it under "phone" in odin? Also, which version were you using?
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I haven't had trouble with the market or the browser. I believe it was version 1.7 of Odin and I put modem.bin into the Phone section. Interestingly I had to repeat this entire process when the gingerbread update was out. I had to try 3 times with flashing modem.bin because it kept freezing up but it went through eventually. Good luck.
Ok I am totally new to the android buzz. My wife and I both have orignal G1s never really played with them always to busy....Now we both have Acer A500's. I am not gonna play with hers since she loves hers the way it is. I of course feel it should do MORE. So with that being said here is my specs
HC 3.1
kernel version 2.6.36.3
build # 4.010.11_com_gen2
has this level of update been rooted and was there any issues.
(I not only use this to play and well gonna learn but also for work)
Again I am totally new to this.
Oh and Ido have a lot of leather on my back also.....hehehehe....;-}
Yes, you can root 3.1 (just did it this weekend). No issues that I've run across with rooting (knock on wood). For me, I have just installed root programs (TiB, etc.) and OC'd (req'd new kernel, got up to 1.5 GHz w/o problems (knock on wood again)).
No custom ROMs yet, as I've been quite happy with Acer's ROM so far, with the aforementioned tweaking.
I think it really depends on what you want to do - I rooted when I first got it to play, but ended up going back to unrooted stock after the first few weeks - if you don't have a need to root, then I'd just say don't bother.
Now that said, I just re-rooted last week simply to get Netflix working (which it does great now) - so that was my "need" - take that as you will.
But rooting (and unrooting) is pretty darn easy, so it's really hard to mess up your system, just remember - always backup - backup everytime you mess with something - because going back is easy with backups, if you forget, you are forced to find creative ways to "wipe and reset" back to stock.
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I think it really depends on what you want to do - I rooted when I first got it to play, but ended up going back to unrooted stock after the first few weeks - if you don't have a need to root, then I'd just say don't bother.
Now that said, I just re-rooted last week simply to get Netflix working (which it does great now) - so that was my "need" - take that as you will.
But rooting (and unrooting) is pretty darn easy, so it's really hard to mess up your system, just remember - always backup - backup everytime you mess with something - because going back is easy with backups, if you forget, you are forced to find creative ways to "wipe and reset" back to stock.
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well gonna wait a few days before i root due to need to pick up a mcro sdcards to back up system since i only have one and it is corrupt (how or why but nothing can read or write to it) and here lately been to dang busy with work....and dont have anything to back up to
well thats sounds chicken**** doesn't it.....i gues im just being a scared sissy....gonna root i do need access to root to access some vpns at work and need to tether also and do a few things that need access to root...just scared that i mess up and then cant return.....did that with first pc i ever owned and i got lucky with the place where i bought it they reinstalled all and i did the same thing and fixed it myself the second time.....lmao....worst case is i can confiscate the wifes a500 and get all from it to resotre mine......
root will also give you access to deleting any crapware that comes pre-installed. While the Iconia has limited crap, there is some present.
I'm newbie to this stuff (Android) and just got an Iconia A500 (unfortunately without 3G embedded and no ad-hoc wifi).
I understood I need to have access to root account in order to release the ad-hoc wifi and then use a mobile phone that can theter wifi to other machines.
I tried the original way of "rooting" the A500 without success (sorry, i cannot include links here).
Is there any new way since I updated A500 to HC3.1?
Thanks in advance.
Reinaldo
reiferreira said:
I'm newbie to this stuff (Android) and just got an Iconia A500 (unfortunately without 3G embedded and no ad-hoc wifi).
I understood I need to have access to root account in order to release the ad-hoc wifi and then use a mobile phone that can theter wifi to other machines.
I tried the original way of "rooting" the A500 without success (sorry, i cannot include links here).
Is there any new way since I updated A500 to HC3.1?
Thanks in advance.
Reinaldo
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Gingerbreak will not work on 3.1 you need to use iconiaroot found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138228
It's quite easy- Good luck
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root will also give you access to deleting any crapware that comes pre-installed. While the Iconia has limited crap, there is some present.
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And if you do THAT, future OTA updates will no longer work unless they're a full ROM. Acer has a nasty habit of issuing differential updates.
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And if you do THAT, future OTA updates will no longer work unless they're a full ROM. Acer has a nasty habit of issuing differential updates.
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True enough, but if you're rooting and trying out new roms, kernels, or deleting crap... then staying current with OTA probably isn't a high priority. Rather, you're looking to tweak/mod your tab and are more likely to wait for a new cooked rom based on said OTA.
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True enough, but if you're rooting and trying out new roms, kernels, or deleting crap... then staying current with OTA probably isn't a high priority. Rather, you're looking to tweak/mod your tab and are more likely to wait for a new cooked rom based on said OTA.
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Sure, but better than people be fully aware of the consequences of their actions... You'd be surprised at the sheer number of folks who just don't think. Look back at this forum before we got custom ROMs and OTAs started coming out as a prime example.
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Sure, but better than people be fully aware of the consequences of their actions... You'd be surprised at the sheer number of folks who just don't think. Look back at this forum before we got custom ROMs and OTAs started coming out as a prime example.
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Agreed- you're right.
well gonna root today pray for the best.....figure worst case is ima gonna be crying like a lil b**** if I mess it up. Sounds like if I mess it up there is some very highly knowledge here that can help me back to square "A". My main question-------I should be using iconiaroot-1.3.apk or should I be using signedgbiconiatab1.20.apk--------allready got acerecovery downloaded from the market and also titanium back up and which is the proper busybox or do I not need busy box? One last thing I would like to thank all those for the great direction you all have pointed me to!.............;-}
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well gonna root today pray for the best.....figure worst case is ima gonna be crying like a lil b**** if I mess it up. Sounds like if I mess it up there is some very highly knowledge here that can help me back to square "A". My main question-------I should be using iconiaroot-1.3.apk or should I be using signedgbiconiatab1.20.apk--------allready got acerecovery downloaded from the market and also titanium back up and which is the proper busybox or do I not need busy box? One last thing I would like to thank all those for the great direction you all have pointed me to!.............;-}
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You need iconiaroot 1.3
As for the other things.. you'll need to be specific as to what you are looking to do. Acer Recovery is an easy way to install ClockworkMod recovery which can then be used to BACKUP and install new roms. Titanium Backup can be used to delete apps and back them and their data up as well. You'll need to be specific.
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You need iconiaroot 1.3
As for the other things.. you'll need to be specific as to what you are looking to do. Acer Recovery is an easy way to install ClockworkMod recovery which can then be used to BACKUP and install new roms. Titanium Backup can be used to delete apps and back them and their data up as well. You'll need to be specific.
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well i dont think i want to install a new rom, but i do a good image back up before i do anything, i do want to get the otas and again as i mentioned before my wife has the same tablet and we are not going to do any thing to it but leave it in its stock level. i will leave the original crap on it which the only thing i dont like is the zinio reader but it doesnt bother me. Will work on trying to get my crack berry or my g1 to tecther with it due to I do and will be using it for work. At present i rdp into my laptop at home just need to be able to get online anywhere and any time....
oh and one last thing do i need to go into portrait mode and lock it down and so forth through all the videos i have seen and foloow those steps or just copy file to sdcar go into a file exploerer and click file and follow instructions.....
So i jumped on the deal on sellout.woot today, and i'll be getting a verizon galaxy tab, hopefully next week, and wanted to get a few things together and start reading up.
I'll probably look at just updating it out of the box and playing around with the stock firmware, but i know i'll probably want to stick some kind of custom firmware on it. So are there any recommendations on a good custom firmware? I'd like one that enable the ability to connect to ad-hoc networks (which the few in the development section i saw did not seem to mention). Should any rom for the VZW tab work? or are there different versions of this tab that i need to be aware of?
As far as flashing goes, what is hiemdal and odin? do they do basically the same thing? what about the clockwork mod, what exactly does that do? I've done a bit of rooting of devices before, but nothing major, so are there good tutorials or guides that explain a bit more about flashing custom roms? I'd like to not have a paperweight when all is said and done.
Any info you can provide or link me to is greatly appreciated.
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So i jumped on the deal on sellout.woot today, and i'll be getting a verizon galaxy tab, hopefully next week, and wanted to get a few things together and start reading up.
I'll probably look at just updating it out of the box and playing around with the stock firmware, but i know i'll probably want to stick some kind of custom firmware on it. So are there any recommendations on a good custom firmware? I'd like one that enable the ability to connect to ad-hoc networks (which the few in the development section i saw did not seem to mention). Should any rom for the VZW tab work? or are there different versions of this tab that i need to be aware of?
As far as flashing goes, what is hiemdal and odin? do they do basically the same thing? what about the clockwork mod, what exactly does that do? I've done a bit of rooting of devices before, but nothing major, so are there good tutorials or guides that explain a bit more about flashing custom roms? I'd like to not have a paperweight when all is said and done.
Any info you can provide or link me to is greatly appreciated.
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There are not very many custom ROMs that have been developed for the Verizon Tab. Galaxy Cubed seems to be a good one. The same Dev created a stock rooted gingerbread ROM so you may want to start with that one. Some of the Sprint ROMs also work. The Sprint and Verizon are both CDMA and very similar. NEVER flash a GSM ROM to this device!
Odin and Heimdall both have the capability to flash ROMs to Samsung devices. Odin is leaked Samsung software and Heimdall is newly written software based on Odin code. I recommend you use Heimdall version 1.1.1, it is free and easy to use. Just do a google search and you will find their website.
Clockworkmod is a custom recovery that does what the stock recovery does only more. It adds the ability to flash various mods to the ROM from recovery and to do backups. But once it's installed you can only get to it by software on your system. If you try to get to it by booting, you get into the stock recovery.
Just be careful when flashing things to your Tab, it is easy to bork it up. There are a lot of tutorials here on XDA, so read them carefully.
I jumped on the same deal! Got a question too, if you don't mind the piggyback...
I chose the Verizon model and I'm interested in using a bluetooth keyboard... I understand that upon release not all keyboards would work but that Verizon put out an update and now all do work.
How do I know other than trial and error if this unit has been upgraded?
My plan is to root and go with a basic gingerbread upgrade and then pretty much leave it be. But if this is a Verizon specific update I'm wondering if I don't need to do a one month data deal in order to get the upgrade.
Any help is appreciated!
rouxdy said:
I jumped on the same deal! Got a question too, if you don't mind the piggyback...
I chose the Verizon model and I'm interested in using a bluetooth keyboard... I understand that upon release not all keyboards would work but that Verizon put out an update and now all do work.
How do I know other than trial and error if this unit has been upgraded?
My plan is to root and go with a basic gingerbread upgrade and then pretty much leave it be. But if this is a Verizon specific update I'm wondering if I don't need to do a one month data deal in order to get the upgrade.
Any help is appreciated!
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If you install the stock vanilla rooted ROM by dsb9938 you will have the latest Verizon upgrade, only rooted. Look on settings, about device, and the latest says EI04. Even if your unit comes with the latest ROM, you may want to flash the rooted vanilla since that is the easiest way to get rooted. Most of the other methods fail or are very difficult to implement on EI04.
No need to subscribe to data unless you want to. I personally like having data everywhere.
Lagfix ASAP
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leapinlar said:
If you install the stock vanilla rooted ROM by dsb9938 you will have the latest Verizon upgrade, only rooted. Look on settings, about device, and the latest says EI04. Even if your unit comes with the latest ROM, you may want to flash the rooted vanilla since that is the easiest way to get rooted. Most of the other methods fail or are very difficult to implement on EI04.
No need to subscribe to data unless you want to. I personally like having data everywhere.
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Thanks! That was very helpful!
I have a droid 3 with data and it looks like there are ways to tether the Tab to the droid... I'd only need to send a few files via email a few times a month and even then it's not a necessity so much as it is a convenience.
Well instead of me writing, here is the link:
http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/galaxy_s4s3note_2_getting_4_3_gear_support_in_the_coming_weeks.html
I hope someone can leak out the final built for the n7105 section... I live in Australia, if America is getting it in a couple of weeks it means I'm getting it in a couple of years so we would appreciate the leak once it's released.
new thread, subsribed!!
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agreed mate
electroking said:
Well instead of me writing, here is the link:
http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/galaxy_s4s3note_2_getting_4_3_gear_support_in_the_coming_weeks.html
I hope someone can leak out the final built for the n7105 section... I live in Australia, if America is getting it in a couple of weeks it means I'm getting it in a couple of years so we would appreciate the leak once it's released.
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im the same live in brissy been trying the at&t version seanz rom everything works but dont have wifi due to bootloader issues be sweet once that is sorted the rom is butter smooth but no wifi is the killer as vodafone data sucks nuts on 4g where i am
This is the update schedule for American carriers. Does that mean that unlocked phones will get it sooner? I hope so. I only just bought the note 2 (Best decision ever) and would love it to be running on 4.3 ASAP.
mattytheflasher said:
im the same live in brissy been trying the at&t version seanz rom everything works but dont have wifi due to bootloader issues be sweet once that is sorted the rom is butter smooth but no wifi is the killer as vodafone data sucks nuts on 4g where i am
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I live in Brizzy too and I'll second or third that if its the only way we can get it? Sorry for the possibly stupid question, but is it true that if you have rooted and installed a custom rom, then you won't get the push update from your carrier anyway?... so.... the only way to get 4.3 on my (and I assume your rooted phone) is via custom rom download?
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I live in Brizzy too and I'll second or third that if its the only way we can get it? Sorry for the possibly stupid question, but is it true that if you have rooted and installed a custom rom, then you won't get the push update from your carrier anyway?... so.... the only way to get 4.3 on my (and I assume your rooted phone) is via custom rom download?
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or if you go back to stock.
have issues with the ota updater as soon as i root my device. The moment i do that i get the message that my device has been changed and i cannot use the updater then. if i flash stock withouth root i don't have this issue.
reckon its best to make a backup of your apps with TB or any similar program when the official update is available, then flash back stock (no root) and update, afterwards simply restore your normal (non-system) apps and your ready
I'm in Aus too, but the official story (courtesy of Telstra) is that there won't be any updates as of JB 4.1.2, unless there's sufficient backlash ...
morph000 said:
I'm in Aus too, but the official story (courtesy of Telstra) is that there won't be any updates as of JB 4.1.2, unless there's sufficient backlash ...
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To answer you and the gentleman above... Australia will probably be the last country on earth to get the update as usual. So we might have to reside to getting it of some kind developer who uploads it here somewhere.
If you do wish to get updates you should go back to stock firmware (probably the first backup you made for your telstra 4.1.2) doesn't matter if it's rooted. Connect your phone to the PC and have KIES installed. Click update firmware and update (done, it will automatically unroot your phone and put back the stock recovery). You can easily update after that.
If anyone finds any android 4.3 working please update us here as soon as you can with a link to the page. If I find a working ROM for the official android 4.3 TW ROM I'll post it here too.
I don't think Aussie tel companies will well I don't have high hopes when it comes to Samsung I've always had HTC and Samsung and it's always the same get f all. I'm using 4.3.1 carbon I use GMD spen features for spen control and gestures don't use stock Sammy apps anyway.. just the 4.3 would be good because it's smooth as
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I like the update 4.3 but ill want rom without knox. I need root
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Well now...I've been holding off playing with rooting my phone (as I'm new to 'droid and have an awful lot to learn, but have come a LONG way in 2 weeks) as I was expecting Telstra to release an update. Since that appears NOT to be forthcoming, Ill consider the various root options, none of which are particularly appealing at the moment mainly as it seems no-one has a stock ROM for this phone online and I can't backup mine without root. Catch 22 it seems. Information on locked bootloaders, Telstra ROM mods, rooting the 7105 "T" version is VERY limited
So...if anyone happens to have a link for a ROM copy please let me know.
(Or info on a rooting technique that works)
Ultimately every one on xda will be using the custom 4.3 rom for the note 3 goodies because Samsung will not be releasing those features in it's official release
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Well now...I've been holding off playing with rooting my phone (as I'm new to 'droid and have an awful lot to learn, but have come a LONG way in 2 weeks) as I was expecting Telstra to release an update. Since that appears NOT to be forthcoming, Ill consider the various root options, none of which are particularly appealing at the moment mainly as it seems no-one has a stock ROM for this phone online and I can't backup mine without root. Catch 22 it seems. Information on locked bootloaders, Telstra ROM mods, rooting the 7105 "T" version is VERY limited
So...if anyone happens to have a link for a ROM copy please let me know.
(Or info on a rooting technique that works)
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Okay I will explain what I done for you...
When I first rooted my Galaxy Note 2 in May, I was a new-comer to android, I had an iPhone for a long time. What I done was root my phone, I Odin installed TWRP after rooting because I really don't like CWM (those are the names of the 'recoveries' available), they will replace the default Samsung recovery. Just make sure you get TWRP. I think it's up to TWRP 2.6.3
Well yeah let's get back to the topic, as soon as I rooted I used TWRP to make a backup of my default Telstra ROM (completely with EFS, MODEM, basically tick everything you can possibly backup).
I took that backup and put it on my laptop and on my PC and I kept a copy on my external card the whole time. That was the best idea, any time I ever had any problems with my phone I went back to that backup. I even soft bricked my phone once and after hours of panicking I realised I can just Re-install the default backup, and it fixed my phone.
Oh and I just recently un-rooted my phone to check for updates. All I done was use SuperSU to do an UNROOT. Then went into recover, restored the original backup I made of the Telstra ROM. Plugged my phone into the PC, and used Samsung KIES to check for firmware update. It just restarted my phone, removed TWRP recovery, re-installed the samsung one, and it removed the root completely and I'm basically went back to my original telstra ROM. I can go into settings and check for updates and everything. (I can confirm there is no update as of yet).
AS for your other QUESTION.
ALL THE ROMS in the N7105 Section will WORK with your N7105T Model. It's the same thing. JUST WATCH OUT and make sure you never install N7100 ROMS (They will soft-brick and could hard-brick your phone).
Thanks for the input.
I've been considering between 3, namely CF AutoRoot, Galaxy Note Toolkit And (exploit based) Framaroot, with a bias towards Toolkit so far ( as it specifies the 7105 "T" variant).
But if you've actually ODINed a GT-7105T (Telstra) with CWP without issues, I'll certainly consider that.
Any one else care to chime in on this (if you've done the same phone/telco only though !)
I've come far enough to understand rooting,boot processes, CWM/TWRP, exploits AND the importance of picking the exact model !:laugh:
I'll take the plunge when I get enough input to decide.
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Thanks for the input.
I've been considering between 3, namely CF AutoRoot, Galaxy Note Toolkit And (exploit based) Framaroot, with a bias towards Toolkit so far ( as it specifies the 7105 "T" variant).
But if you've actually ODINed a GT-7105T (Telstra) with CWP without issues, I'll certainly consider that.
Any one else care to chime in on this (if you've done the same phone/telco only though !)
I've come far enough to understand rooting,boot processes, CWM/TWRP, exploits AND the importance of picking the exact model !:laugh:
I'll take the plunge when I get enough input to decide.
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It's not that hard really, you can't really mess it up if you follow the instructions... Hey root it whichever way you see fit, whatever you think is easier for you, don't listen to me. But I do highly recommend you get TWRP for backing up and formatting and installing your ROMS. Also I recommend PAC-MAN it's a good ROM, but it's not very stable at the moment (kind of).
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It's not that hard really, you can't really mess it up if you follow the instructions... Hey root it whichever way you see fit, whatever you think is easier for you, don't listen to me. But I do highly recommend you get TWRP for backing up and formatting and installing your ROMS. Also I recommend PAC-MAN it's a good ROM, but it's not very stable at the moment (kind of).
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Don't take offense at my asking for multiple inputs. I just don't want to brick at $600 phone needlessly
I've now sourced a ROM from Sammobile and downloaded it last night.
I'm backing up settings and stuff tonight and will run with Galaxy Note 2 Toolkit tomorrow (I went PRO) and go for option 3 - THE LOT !
Hopefully it'll all go ok.
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Don't take offense at my asking for multiple inputs. I just don't want to brick at $600 phone needlessly
I've now sourced a ROM from Sammobile and downloaded it last night.
I'm backing up settings and stuff tonight and will run with Galaxy Note 2 Toolkit tomorrow (I went PRO) and go for option 3 - THE LOT !
Hopefully it'll all go ok.
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Haha you don't go pro over night my friend. Hope it all went all, if you have any issues or like to share your experience with the ROMS let us know.
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Haha you don't go pro over night my friend. Hope it all went all, if you have any issues or like to share your experience with the ROMS let us know.
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Well, I did the deed last night with Toolkit PRO and it all went smoothly. No Telstra or Samsung nasties reared their heads PLUS there wasn't a yellow triangle either !
That's the trouble with being in Oz. It's such a small market and REAL information is very hard to come by...so one is very cautious !
Anyway thanks for your assistance :victory:
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Well, I did the deed last night with Toolkit PRO and it all went smoothly. No Telstra or Samsung nasties reared their heads PLUS there wasn't a yellow triangle either !
That's the trouble with being in Oz. It's such a small market and REAL information is very hard to come by...so one is very cautious !
Anyway thanks for your assistance :victory:
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I Odin flashed mine straight out of the box before I even set it up pulled backup and kept stock rom for warranty only.. these phones are pretty much unbrickable to an extent just don't go trying flashing n7100 roms and you'll be fine at&t roms are ok too just don't flash their bootloaders or even try to.. I change roms daily and have for like the last 2 years on my original note plus HTC's if your unsure on anything this place is helpful more than bloody Samsung
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Sammobile: 4.3 is rolling out for the S3.