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[Q] Is there a build with no dropped 3G, no SOD and no touchscreen pauses?

Is there a build with no dropped 3G, no SOD and no touchscreen pauses?
I absolutely love Mattc's build and all the effort everyone has put into them, especially the kernel devs. I think it's incredible these work as well as they do and I'm using the mattc Evo Leo version as my every day OS....
I ask this question because mattc Leo + Froyo with Sense seems to have the screen pause and occasional SOD. I switched to the new mattc's EvoLeo which fixed the pause and SOD completely, but now my 3G dropps randomely. Usually when I'm using it heavily, it drops once every 15 minutes or so, but I've gone hourse without a drop as well..... Anyhow, I was just hoping there was a build, that fixes these or a tweak or kernal replacement that fixes these...
Also, The Evo Leo build is so stable that I don't see any reason why you would bother booting from NAND. Boot once from Windows Mobile and stay in Android as long as you want.... Its nice to, at least, have the option to boot WM... Maybe there are other reasons to put Android on the NAND?
Thanks,
Kevlar The Great

KevlarTheGreat said:
Is there a build with no dropped 3G, no SOD and no touchscreen pauses?
I absolutely love Mattc's build and all the effort everyone has put into them, especially the kernel devs. I think it's incredible these work as well as they do and I'm using the mattc Evo Leo version as my every day OS....
I ask this question because mattc Leo + Froyo with Sense seems to have the screen pause and occasional SOD. I switched to the new mattc's EvoLeo which fixed the pause and SOD completely, but now my 3G dropps randomely. Usually when I'm using it heavily, it drops once every 15 minutes or so, but I've gone hourse without a drop as well..... Anyhow, I was just hoping there was a build, that fixes these or a tweak or kernal replacement that fixes these...
Also, The Evo Leo build is so stable that I don't see any reason why you would bother booting from NAND. Boot once from Windows Mobile and stay in Android as long as you want.... Its nice to, at least, have the option to boot WM... Maybe there are other reasons to put Android on the NAND?
Thanks,
Kevlar The Great
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lol not yet so far

yes there is more infor here

I've been using the following setup and it works very well for daily use (no SOD etc)
mdeejay Froyo Sense v. 2.2 with kernel from hastarin, v4.1
radio 2.14.50.04
winrom artemis 34.5 (not that i think it matters)
hspl3
Just be careful how you use SetCPU/ATK Froyo and other applications that interfere with the OS since this isn't a device with Android at it's core.
Oh, as for SetCPU, I set 384MHz min/max, userspace, while screen is off and I get ~5-6 mAh consumption while screen is in standby with WiFi off and about 60mAh with it on. I know it's not the lowest freq but it should be a good trade-off since my phone wakes up very fast.

OMG there totally is! I can't believe you haven't found that post! I also can't believe all of these other devs haven't found that post and copied the solution too! Lucky me that I found this next to the pot of gold at the end of this rainbow sitting next too Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.

I have one!
Mdeejay 3.1 Desire HD
Nothing to say....smooth and fast....no drops on 3G or everything else.
the only issue is the camera.

With everyone using a different WinMo ROM, radio, hspl (maybe), and even some hardware differences, it's impossible to say.
I just played with different builds until I found one that works for me. Currently running HyperDroid 1.6

Phiredrop Skinny EVO has been perfect!
I used the beta version for days with no problems and now have the 1.1 version and it is perfecto!

pack21 said:
I have one!
Mdeejay 3.1 Desire HD
Nothing to say....smooth and fast....no drops on 3G or everything else.
the only issue is the camera.
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u got a link to this build?

i use hyperdroid 1.5 stockified is almost perfect, i have minimal issues. the only major for me is that it uses rmnet instead of ppp. ppplease?

RmNet builds work for practically everybody with no dropped connections. Touchscreen pauses have not been completely eliminated yet, but they can be almost completely eliminated in regular use by either disabling the G-Sensor, or disabling home-screen orientation through ADWLauncher or LauncherPro.
PPP builds still drop connections for many people. A common workaround is to enable/disable airplane mode to soft-reset the connection.
EVO-based kernels use PPP. Nexus-One kernels use RmNet. Therefore, to avoid dropped mobile connections, use any Nexus-One based build.
Since you like MattC's builds, the last build of his that was RmNet based was 1.7. If you don't have a copy of it saved, you can download it here: (RapidShare link) http://rapidshare.com/files/416256755/mattcfroyosense1.7rmnet.zip
Personally, I am using HyperDroid 1.6 This build uses RmNet and is quite reliable. I've used it with Radios 2.12 and 2.14, with the VBN WM Rom, and have not experienced any SoDs, dropped 3g, or touchscreen freezes. Links are still on the front page of this forum.

Bangster v1.4 (self-modified)
#hastarin r6 kernel
#vbndroid winmo rom
#2.14 radio with hspl3
#stock 16g sdcard formatted with 32k cluster size
RESULT
#only 3mA batery usage during standby with wifi off!!
#great data speed and no dropped connection using PPP.
#no SOD, robot voice touchscreen freezes whatsoever.
#no issues with bluetooth
#802.11n Wifi with hastarin r6 kernel
#great graphic performance with darkstones graphic tweaks(included in hastarin kernel)
Hope this helps.
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This is my setup.
WM Rom: Elegancia GTX
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654218
Android Build:mccm v1.5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773790
Using Radio 2.12
Been using for more than a week and no SOD, 3G works fine.
I did a lot of trial & error with different WM Roms and Android builds and this has been the most stable choice for me.

You may wanna play with this one too:
# [BUILD][29.09.2010][FroyoStone Sense - V3.1][Kernel: darkstone]
darkstone's in the same league as mattc so this may turn out to be one of the perfect ones hopefully!.
Installed it over mattc leoevo 1.1 (due to data issues) and been running it with no issues so far..btw i have only tested data both wifi and cellular n some other stuff therefore the rest will still have to be checked out.

I second the phiremod build, definitely is a daily rom for me. I used to get SODs from every rom until I started using his.

I have very good usage with MIUI beta4 and mdeejay 1.5evo . These 2 roms are close to perfect , no screen freeze, no drop 3G, no touch screen issues, no sod
I am on stock rom 1.66 asian rom and radio 2.12
Of these 2 miui is best and fantastic fast very stable . Only issue is the ipone like ui. It's additional features is way ahead of htc desire hd new sense which I tested too.

Change Radio and HSPL
atifhassan said:
You may wanna play with this one too:
# [BUILD][29.09.2010][FroyoStone Sense - V3.1][Kernel: darkstone]
darkstone's in the same league as mattc so this may turn out to be one of the perfect ones hopefully!.
Installed it over mattc leoevo 1.1 (due to data issues) and been running it with no issues so far..btw i have only tested data both wifi and cellular n some other stuff therefore the rest will still have to be checked out.
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I've been using this build too. It's BEAUTIFULLY smooth and works just fine.
Also, I believe (someone please correct me if I'm wrong) the SOD's have more to do with radio and hspl than anything. I was using a 2.08 radio and hspl 2 and I was getting SOD all of the time. As soon as I upgraded to 2.12 radio (and now 2.14) as well as hspl3 I have not had SOD once. During this process I was using the same Android and WM builds, so it seems it was the radio and hspl.

Im new to all this and still experimenting.
So far Hyperdroid 1.6 is doing the best job for me. I have had a few issues with 3G here and there, And getting this Touchscreen freeze problem a couple of times a day..
I am running
Latest Chuckyrom
Radio 2.14
8gb Sandisk Class 6 SDcard formatted 32kb cluster size
I am wondering how much influence windows mobile rom has on these android builds? I am happy with hyperdroid 1.6, without going rom flash crazy if someone could recommend a base windows mobile that plays well with this I will give it a whirl.

pack21 said:
I have one!
Mdeejay 3.1 Desire HD
Nothing to say....smooth and fast....no drops on 3G or everything else.
the only issue is the camera.
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u got a link to this build?
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Yeah, I'm with pack21 on this build - it's been great on my combo (see sig'), but I do however suffer from occasional data drops. It's great for daily use otherwise!
As for a link, that's a bit tricky seeing as the thread containing it was 'lost' when xda suffered it's server issues the other day. It was only up for about 24 hours, and I've not seen a link for it reproduced since. It would be worth your while searching for it though - I think you'll find it would be worth the hassle!

Thanks everyone (except maybe robkoehler) for your very helpful feedback. I was wondering if maybe some people had gotten a version of mattc to work without screen pauses or data drops, but it sounds that hasn't really happened.
I hope I can find Mdeejay 3.1 Desire HD because it sounds like thats a good one to try....
I've been using HSPL2, do you guys really think I'd have better luck with HSPL3? I just hate to mess with HSPL because ... it seems like the most risky thing we have to do to our phones...
I really appreciate the advice and I'll continue to monitor this thread for any more feedback.

[Q] Best Android build like FroyoSense

I verry liked the FroyoSense build from Darkstone en later MCCM. But there was a conflict between MCCM and ???..
But wich Android build is almost the same as the FroyoSense build? And also verry good too use?

I'm finding Evo Carbon Remix V0.5 Features by motoman234 to be very stable and bug-free. I've only had BSOD a couple of times and I'm able to use it on a daily basis. Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=839410

sooo... what's wrong with froyostone 3.2 then? I use it on a daily basis and it's rock solid, great batt life and quite fast too. the only thing I change is kernel, every time hastarin give us something new... everything works.... I don't really get it.

bronx said:
sooo... what's wrong with froyostone 3.2 then? I use it on a daily basis and it's rock solid, great batt life and quite fast too. the only thing I change is kernel, every time hastarin give us something new... everything works.... I don't really get it.
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I can't speak for anyone else, but the EVO build is the only one I've used so far that doesn't constantly freeze up on me. Granted, I haven't messed around much with changing just the kernel which may have minimized the BSOD problems. I also prefer the very polished look of this build and it's enhanced animations, ect. Just personal preference.

yeah... I was reffering really to op's post. if he liked froyostone, then why fix what's working ok?

Its been awhile since I used froyostone but it was an excellent build as darkstone is awesome. I currently use mdj froyo HD 4.4 for my daily sense build. It can seem laggy but responds well to a 422/1500 setcpu setting. Up to you but can't find a flaw about it. Good luck
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I found that cedeesmiths Desire Spot build was the logical progression from froyostone.
Everything works, no little annoying bugs. Very good battery life.
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The most stable Android build? Less bugs, not laggy?

Hey all,
i wanted to know which build you prefer and which build the most stable one is. im searching for a version with less bugs. i want a non laggy version. can somebody help?
the ram versions are far away from being stable right?
what about the hd versions? have they much bugs?

I love to know this too. I want stable and not care much of nice animation. i think you will get different answer because i don't think anyone know what the best out there. You will have to try different one to see which one work for you best. Every single one out there will the different issue you might run into? The good thing are alot of developer actively working on these rom for FREE. That really nice of them. I really appreciate all the hard work.

The common response to this question is that it's really about personal preference at this point. There may be some small features not working in each build but I can't say that any of them have any particular major flaws unless it's a "work in progress" build like Gingerbread MyTouch4G or whatever. I recommend bookmarking this http://android.hd2roms.com/ and get a better idea of the different Roms and see which are staying updated or w/e. I like to have 2 types of Roms, a Stock-like or Cyanogen-based and a Sense-themed. Of these types, I have found the following to be particularly good for me:
- Cyanogen-based: HD2ONE (all though he is not developing any longer, this one should be solid for a long time.. my personal favorite) - JDMS (could easily replace HD2ONE for me if JDMS stays in the game and keeps new Cyanogen builds rotating in and doing the testing\tweaking for us)
- Sense-themed: MDJ Froyo HD (I'm most impressed with MDJ's commitment to keeping his roms up to date. Sense based are often bulky so I have to overclock them a tad but MDJ compensates by undervolting nicely)
- Stock-like: Darkstone SuperRam (I may be biased for Darkstone's builds but this one loads super quick) - NexusHD2 (Solid and Slick... nothing wrong with this one)
- Experimental: MDJ Gingerbread (Really looking forward to the last couple things to get ironed out on this build)
So yeah, there are 6 right there that I use. Which one I use the most is kinda hard to say. I currently bounce between HD2ONE and MDJ FroyoHD. I use Excellar boot loader and just customize my Rom names and just reboot in each and play/test them all for speed/stability/functionality at my leisure. I just load up my card like this and figure out what works for me the most:
/HD2ONE
/MDJFroyoHD
/SuperRAM
/JDMS
/NexusHD2
Bottom-Line... all of them are excellent, have fun and try each on. And don't be afraid to try something new. A lot of new guys are trying to get their stuff out there for us and need testers and feedback to help them perfect it. Sorry for being long winded, there really is no simple answer. They are all good!

For me its MDJ Revolution HD v.1.2 with hastarin 8.6 kernel
Its apsolutly fast, stable and good looking. I have tried almoust all versions and this one is definitly winner for me.

I vote for option A - Try them all and see which one you like best.

Mdeejay Sense Clean 2.3 build as posted in Mdeejay thread by Hastarin. It has Hastarin kernel 8.53b included but you can update to 8.6. It's totally stable and I haven't found anything to replace it.
Sent from my HTC HD2 Android

SupeRam by darkstone, top notch
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HD2ONE is the best for me. Smooth Quick & Stable for everyday use. Also installing Luncher Pro from market place makes it unbelievably smooth.

which rom do you use with hd2one? chucky or ozdroid or energy? i want to have a wm rom that is very lite and starts android automatically

mdjee jay evo sense revolution
pone- htc hd2 leo
android version- 2.2
kernel version- 2.6.32.15r7
build no- mdjee jay evo sense revolution
dis si the best

fast
superrom by darkstone is byfar the best i have used and i have tryed a lot of roms

Evil_enc said:
Hey all,
i wanted to know which build you prefer and which build the most stable one is. im searching for a version with less bugs. i want a non laggy version. can somebody help?
the ram versions are far away from being stable right?
what about the hd versions? have they much bugs?
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The Nexus build from TyTung is the most stable and there is nothing "not" working...check it out.

MCCM's builds are perfect. Everything works and they are fast without overclooking. I get 1662 on quadrant with stock CPU settings. with his builds. I'm using his Desire HD build.
Sent from my HTC HD2 Desire HD using XDA App

Also, they are rock solid stable and battery draws 5 - 7 mA in standby.
Sent from my HTC HD2 Desire HD using XDA App

ttibbetts83 said:
superrom by darkstone is byfar the best i have used and i have tryed a lot of roms
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but it doesnt work for me for calling.no sound when i call soneone.but music plsys fine.

Nexus build by TyTung, it is very smooth & stable, with very low battery consumption

i agree with the nexus one notion. my only problem is that battery when standby averages at 11 mA

Any build can be as good as you want if you know what to do. For me, I simply like sense builds. I have mdj 1.7 as main but I am currently testing moto my touch 4g and dandiest desire z.
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dan138zig said:
i agree with the nexus one notion. my only problem is that battery when standby averages at 11 mA
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There are two causes for this, one Tytung address in his post; GPS off.
The other is addressed in my post; it's a light that stays on that's supposed to be used only during call.
Check it out.

deadmansink said:
There are two causes for this, one Tytung address in his post; GPS off.
The other is addressed in my post; it's a light that stays on that's supposed to be used only during call.
Check it out.
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my gps was already off.
sorry but i can't find your post in your signature. do you mind showing it?

BEST COMBINATION-Effective perfomance

Hi Guys
I would like to inform you guys I have found best perfomace build+kernal
I have tried various builds with various kernals for last couple of weeks.either I had battery drainage or stoppage or data corruption or laggy problems
Finally best one I tried is
MDJ_FroYo_HD_v._4.6_MDJ_S78.0 with update.kernel.hastarin.16.12.2010.Works perfect. battery usage is great to be honest with you better than window ROM and less laggy. no corrupted data or sudden stoppages.
Try guys.I bet this will be the best combination built I have ever tried.
Thanx Mdeejay and hasterin
what about RAM based built mdjay....?

And what's up with radio, sd-card, wm rom and such stuff?
Pretty subjective post and not really helpfull.

My radio 2.15
windows version 3.14
latest window version from HTC
first downloaded mdeejays and then extracted
then downloaded latest kernal from hasterin then copied into andriod .
thats it.best performance

imho its a useless post.
Best performance is very subjective
Besides , speaking of performance , ram version roms are on top , and thats not subjective

Spb TV does not work though. Have you tried it?
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what is the battery drain is standby with current widget? cheers

I am heavy user with lots of wiget running plus data is always on .Having fully charged in the morning,it lasted all day without single charge.But other builds lasted only couple of hours.forget about SPB TV. you will always find some app will not work on any builts even in native android.but What i am saying is about good perfomance. try it feel it.just small piece of advice try before say something.

rasih5503 said:
I am heavy user with lots of wiget running plus data is always on .Having fully charged in the morning,it lasted all day without single charge.But other builds lasted only couple of hours.forget about SPB TV. you will always find some app will not work on any builts even in native android.but What i am saying is about good perfomance. try it feel it.just small piece of advice try before say something.
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how long did you try the build until you reached your conclusion. 30min? 1hr? day? all builds work different for some people than others depending on winrom, radio, kernel, sdcard, apps installed, etc...

So what is it? whats the best build combo?Cause it seems to me that nothing is complete? Don't get me wrong their are some talented people here doing putting some incredible builds together and Ive tested a lot of them, but still cant seem to find that one build that could be used for long term daily use.Has any one else?
Ive searched a lot of threads and tried a lot of suggestion and not any real luck
what im using now seems to be pretty good but at times i have location and data drops and no mms.

I am using mccm 3.4 for weeks now without any problem. Other builds would crap out on me after few days of use. Just saying.
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I have CR192 DESIRE HD as winmo rom, radio 2.15.50 and I'm running motoman evo carbon remix .06 and I have a great performing setup, I usually unplug my phone around 3am to go to work and by the time I go to bed around 8pm I usually still have around 15% on moderate use. I've been using this setup with a couple of different motoman builds as a daily driver for 5 weeks without using winmo at all. Honestly is all on phone to phone basis. No matter how much you try the same setup might not work the same for two different phones. The hardware is not 100% identical on every phone, that's why it never behaves the same, that's why there's always people saying they're having an issue while others aren't.
So pretty much I'm saying that while you think your setup is the best, others might not have the same result as you.

what a horrible thread, lol
anyways, i dont have the crazy amount of times to test multiple builds and you probably got your findings wrong
i am using MDJ 4.6 Desire HD and its good, but not great
it has its flaws and issues
today I just got a corrupted SD card with many files with weird names in them
i have tested the Darkstone RAM build, didnt like anything without Sense
i have tested MIUI , its blazing fast but the fact that it looks like iphone, bleh
your statements are subjective and totally unmeasurable

Why is this in the dev section?
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Well the intention behind the thread is alright..Anyways, I am testing Gingerbread RAM V1.0 by MDJ and am getting less than 1% battery drain/hour which is the best I have experienced in 3months of trying various builds and it's rooted so SetCPU works. However, lots of other apps including Facebook are not working..I guess in time MDJ will show the way..

And I have 2.15 Radio, HTC latest ROM and HSPL

Mccm3.4 and mdj4.6 with non-newest-hastarin kernels are two build I will vouch for as daily drivers.
But no build is as reliable as a build with a .zip backup of itself on internal memory for speedy unzipping to sdcard.
I am running darkstones superram 1.5 now and loving it, and am looking forward to mdj's ram gingerbread rc5 when it comes out tonight or tomorrow.
On all these builds I named I see '6-9ma' standby battery drain a lot, 19ma sometimes.

i am using Motoman234_Desire_PCB_Sense_V1.0 work perfect all software work and installed fast and stable good back up

Anougher opinionated thread,this might work for you but might not be so good for someone else,its mostly down to personal preffrence but if you want a good Desire HD build then yeah its a good combo

Fishing for the best build
to begin with i have used radio 2.15.50 with wwe 3.14 original rom htc update,battery drainage was too high on windows and also android build,80% was the ram usage.so i have downgraded to wwe 1.66 and only upgraded the radio 2.15.50.i have been using MDJ REVOLUTION HD WITH HASTARIN 8.5.3 and its brilliant for daily usage.with moderate use, battery life is excellent.to me this is the best combination.i have also tried all other builds but i remained with this one.because its brilliant with animations and the lot.
one of our member has started this thread just to find out what he can use for his phone without trying other builds,because its easier for him to find out this way rather than doing himself.its not that he managed to find the best combination,HIS FISHING FOR THE BEST COMBINATION FROM THE OTHER MEMBERS.he will probably say he has tried all the other builds)

Not too be pee'ing you guys against the leggs.. but i'm using the same config now. for about 5 days and omfg.. this one really works! battery stands for a whole day while data always on. ( with gps always on about 14 hours before its drained )
no dropouts, no bull**** with ppp. no legs en a pretty good bench points.

[Q] best android based rom?

hi,
i was wondering, now with all the android roms beeing published to xda
i'd realy like to know which rom is actualy the most recent, or the best, with the least errors and best to work
and another thing,
is it possible to delete windows from my phone and let my phone start directly from android, to avoid the long boot time?

@natihorny - Here's a link to TechBurrow's thread. There is a video/ links for what you need to do to flash your phone with Android and have it boot up directly to it without dealing with WM. I've yet to do this, as I'm still at work, but plan on giving it a try in the coming days.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894423

I would suggest that you dont use NAND builds yet they are far from perfect but instead you should use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847631 it is motomans black and blue build wich is by far the best sense android build even much better than any ram and nand build and as for winmo flash this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893438 and it will boot android just as fast as any nand build and you will never have problems with this setup

this is a very, very subjective thread. there is not "best" rom--it's all about what you're looking for in a rom. for example, vanilla froyo vs. desire vs. desire hd vs. miui vs. gingerbread. or sd vs. sd ram vs. nand.
personally, i'm a proponent of sd ram. i haven't actually used it long term, but it seems to be very fast (and based on darkstone, it's even faster than nand). especially with nand being very young in its development, i would stick to sd for now. plus, it's much easier to flash and fix in case you corrupt your rom somehow. there's a few out there (just look for "[SD] [RAM]" in the descriptions), but one i'd like to point out is darkstone's superram froyo. i'm kinda busy right now, but that's definitely the rom i'm going to be using and modding to my liking.
good luck and have fun flashing!

ok, thanks everyone for the helpfull answers,
i had still one other question and thats,
i just bought a new car with bluetooth function, though my cell phone and the bluetooth of the car don't connect like it should, (thats why i wanted an android with the least amount of problems) and i was wondering if the fact that the bluetooth is only visible 120 seconds may cause the problem.

wrecless said:
I would suggest that you dont use NAND builds yet they are far from perfect but instead you should use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847631 it is motomans black and blue build wich is by far the best sense android build even much better than any ram and nand build and as for winmo flash this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893438 and it will boot android just as fast as any nand build and you will never have problems with this setup
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i was wondering, in some of the android roms, you can choose skins from htc sense and have the htc market, and can download more htc backgrounds, sounds, etc. etc.
and now i have the rom you suggested, both for windows as for android which i'd like to use, but doesn't have that htc sense thing buildt in the android rom, how can i get it back?

natihorny said:
i was wondering, in some of the android roms, you can choose skins from htc sense and have the htc market, and can download more htc backgrounds, sounds, etc. etc.
and now i have the rom you suggested, both for windows as for android which i'd like to use, but doesn't have that htc sense thing buildt in the android rom, how can i get it back?
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The build you are speaking of is the desire hd. I didn't suggest that build because it is laggy and slow. Even after 10 restarts and 2 days of use it still laggs alot compared to the one I posted in B4. Take it from someone that has tried every build available the motoman build is BY FAR the BEST after you get over all the HOOPLAH over the new htc sense wich is cool i'll admit but the coolness wears off after about 2 days and your just stuck with a laggy non responsive HD build. now others will post how good thier HD build works after hours of tweeking and reading and tweeking and reading. But trust me you will go back to the motoman build after you try the hd for a few days

@ wrecless
thanks for your view about which rom to choose, i'll do as you say, since you realy know what you're talking about, and i was hoping you tell me whenever a perfect rom from the htc desire is out?

wrecless said:
I would suggest that you dont use NAND builds yet they are far from perfect but instead you should use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847631 it is motomans black and blue build wich is by far the best sense android build even much better than any ram and nand build and as for winmo flash this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893438 and it will boot android just as fast as any nand build and you will never have problems with this setup
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Would you say this build is better than darkstone SuperRAM FroYo v1.5 and SuperRAM Sense v0.1?

Jdm ultimate 1.6.2 is best by far nand or sd hands down
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wrecless said:
The build you are speaking of is the desire hd. I didn't suggest that build because it is laggy and slow. Even after 10 restarts and 2 days of use it still laggs alot compared to the one I posted in B4. Take it from someone that has tried every build available the motoman build is BY FAR the BEST after you get over all the HOOPLAH over the new htc sense wich is cool i'll admit but the coolness wears off after about 2 days and your just stuck with a laggy non responsive HD build. now others will post how good thier HD build works after hours of tweeking and reading and tweeking and reading. But trust me you will go back to the motoman build after you try the hd for a few days
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sounds like an interesting helpful post
i will return to deliver the Thanks if I found Motoman's build, superior to the ones I have and resolves the issues I am facing (everyone is different)

xftox said:
Jdm ultimate 1.6.2 is best by far nand or sd hands down
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for non-sense build your rite jdms is by far the best

Essjaythegreat said:
Would you say this build is better than darkstone SuperRAM FroYo v1.5 and SuperRAM Sense v0.1?
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I installed the darkstone build and had problems but I cant remember exactly what they were. In my opinion the motoman build was just as fast and had no problems. I'v been trying everything just because i want something different but I always come back to this build nothing out there seams to work as well as this one and as for the nand builds they are all RMNET. So untill I see a working PPP build I'm going to keep using this SD build

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wrecless said:
I installed the darkstone build and had problems but I cant remember exactly what they were. In my opinion the motoman build was just as fast and had no problems. I'v been trying everything just because i want something different but I always come back to this build nothing out there seams to work as well as this one and as for the nand builds they are all RMNET. So untill I see a working PPP build I'm going to keep using this SD build
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I had no problems at all with darkstones super ram builds they worked very well for me everything worked fine ppp wifi ect, i noticed darkstone froyo was a bit faster than his sence build but its still very fast
I tryed Motoman's build and found it very nice, but am having problems with wifi and market, I think there may be a fix for these but ive not had time to browse through the forum as of yet.
I really like JNF Android Starter Xtreme you recommended its funky

TheATHEiST said:
Why hasnt a mod moved or deleted this topic?
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Why???????

Essjaythegreat said:
I had no problems at all with darkstones super ram builds they worked very well for me everything worked fine ppp wifi ect, i noticed darkstone froyo was a bit faster than his sence build but its still very fast
I tryed Motoman's build and found it very nice, but am having problems with wifi and market, I think there may be a fix for these but ive not had time to browse through the forum as of yet.
I really like JNF Android Starter Xtreme you recommended its funky
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Not sure one can find a perfect build ( or mate for that matter ), but I do have some info collected that others may find useful in the link below. If anyone can find a build with everything working, please let us know.
http://home.comcast.net/~chn110/AndroidHD2/ScoreCard.htm

TyTungs Nexus NAND build is awesome; check it out:
links are in my thread

deadmansink said:
TyTungs Nexus NAND build is awesome; check it out:
links are in my thread
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yep can confirm that, runs really really smooth, expecially with launcher pro

simax said:
yep can confirm that, runs really really smooth, expecially with launcher pro
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I actually went the ADW Launcher Ex route...bad-ass...