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Is it just me or is the battery life horrible, I can barely go half a day without it dieing?
I have gps off, the brightness down, and kill the task's in task manager all day.
I did update my radio but have not tried 2.0b2
My battery has been getting really warm with the 2.1 ROMs. I have switched back to a 1.5 one. Is that just me? So, yea, haven't had great battery life.
I have been using AOSP roms with no sense so switching to this battery has been alot worse. But when I think about it I do not believe it has been any worse then when I was using 1.5 with sense. Cant wait to get a fully functional 2.1 AOSP
I've been running Fresh 2.0b2 today, with 8hrs uptime and 1hr 30min awake time I have somewhere between 60% and 70% left. I did flash the radio.
definitely sucking the battery down. even after wiping, radio and flash. could have different results from phone to phone, I'm more of a heavy user.
really? i been getting realllllly good battery life. i was BT music for like an hr then i gps'ed for like 20 min and wifi connected to gmote for 2 whole movies. my battery is at 70% right now and its been unpluged all day....i love this rom
try active browsing for an hour straight... sucks my battery straight to hell.
obelisk79 said:
try active browsing for an hour straight... sucks my battery straight to hell.
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turn off flash in the browser... it is a HUGE drain on the battery
justinisyoung said:
turn off flash in the browser... it is a HUGE drain on the battery
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thats some useful info... will give it a shot
No real battery issues thus far. Make sure gps is off the settings are different in 2.1 I thought mine was off it wasn't. Also shut off flash until you need it. I use dolphin for browsing, no blue tooth, no gps and heavy useage with good battery results.
I came from a Pre which has horrendous battery life so perhaps my expectations are low but I go the entire day with heavy useage.
How do I turn off Flash?
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How do I turn off Flash?
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Go to the browser settings and uncheck load flash.
Honestly, my battery life has been better since i switched to Fresh 2.0b. It's really hard for me to gauge actual battery life because I spend most of my time at work where my phone roams constantly. BUT as far as my phone roaming and just regular use it seems that my battery life is way better.
Hard to say. I want to say the battery life is lower, but I also spent a lot more time playing with the phone and downloading/installing apps since 'upgrading' to 2.1.
That could be what you guys are seeing too. You're just using it more without realizing it.
My battery is actually pretty decent.. I have more widgets and programs running than I did on 1.1, but the battery is defiantly tolerable.
This is a BETA ROM and Flipz hasn't even had time to mess with the power management side of things, so just be thankful you have a 2.1 to mess around with, that is almost fully functional.
If you use the power control widget and turn off everything; wifi, BT, gps, AND especially SYNC, i get good battery life.
With sync disabled it doesnt pull gmail or weather but id rather have better battery life and sync gmail manually
13hrs up time,
2hr wake time
Unplugged for 5hrs (according to the Battery Use widget)
65% Battery
justinisyoung said:
turn off flash in the browser... it is a HUGE drain on the battery
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How I do that?
jovera said:
How I do that?
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Couldn't even make it to post 12, huh?
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How I do that?
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goto the Browser then Menu/more/settings and uncheck load flash.
So far I've been getting worse battery life with the 2.1 ROM. I was previously using Fresh 1.1 and got like 36 hours with a single charge. With the Fresh 2.0 ROM I get maybe 16-18 hours. I'm thinking of switching back to Fresh 1.1 until the new ROM is tweaked as I'm sometimes more than 24 hrs without being able to charge at work and I need my phone while at work. Great ROM nevertheless.
Is it normal for my battery to only last 1 day before it needs a charge? I have everything turned off practically and yet I still have it dying after 1 day. According to Battery usage, the only things draining it are the Display and Cell Standby. Any information on this would be greatly appreciated.
Ryphez
That's about the battery life I get. With light to moderate usage, it lasts about 15 hours before getting down to 20%
I'm in a fringe area and get most of a work day with moderate email, data, and constant music
SS
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Same here...11-13 hours is a pretty good stretch for me.
Biggest culprits for battery drain are display and automatic data syncing.
So if you want to extend your battery life lower the brightness on your display.
So for syncing you can either disable it completely so that your applications only refresh for new data when you use them or change the frequency that they check.
I'm getting about the same. Actually I was pretty happy considering all this thing does. Keep an eye out for the extended battery. It's gonna make it thicker but might be a good tradeoff for some of us.
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My battery only lasted around 6 hours, so I'm getting a replacement.
I'm with you guys about the battery issue. I mean I know that Android is known to have bad battery life, but the X was heralded as supposedly having decent battery life.
Even with GPS and wifi turned OFF, and my display brightness turned all the way down to 0, I am still only getting about 10-12 hrs of usage. That's BS.
Overall I really like the phone, but the battery issue is getting on my nerves - as well as the damn wifi issue.
I doubt it's going to matter, but I can only hope that Froyo offers up better battery life (maybe more options to turn stuff off). I would love to be able to underclock the CPU or reduce the screen brightness even more.
I am coming from a blackberry that got two days on a charge. The phone sucked though. I get about 13-15 hours per charge on stock battery. I use tasker and y5 to set profiles that toggle wifi and gps so I'm never using extra battery but still able to use device to fullest. I also went on ebay and found two generic batteries with external charger for $13. Now when my stock battery dies, I just throw in a new one that freshly charged and charge up the stock one. Having three batteries to shuffle through means my phone is never plugged in, and never dead. Plus in not charging batteries as often so it should extend over all life of batteries.
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How does the battery life compare to the original Droid(stock of course)? Do you guys think the Droid 2 will have similar battery life, or will Froyo and the smaller screen improve it?
I only get around 7 hours when im forum browsing 7 hrs straight
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I've noticed the 50% bug on several x's including my own
If i don't use my phone a lot i get 10+ hours easy
But you gotta remember if you're using this phone all out and a lot then of course you're gonna use the battery up quicker.
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Seems to be a bug with the gps. That is causing the battery drains. Even after you shut down the program using gps system won't go into a complete Sleep mode seems to be a big study going on over droidforum.net tested mine today with gps off except when in use battery lated 20 hours versus 10 with it on.
Not real technical myself and don't wanna post link to another forum.
Good luck fyi motorola is aware of bug and suppose to be a fix in 2.2
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I use the widget "Extended Controls" and leave my WiFi, GPS, Bluetooth, etc off unless I need them.
I had the SGS Captivate for three weeks and before that I had the G1 since it came out - the DroidX battery life is longer than both of them.
I'm really happy with the battery life so far.
Also, I read somewhere that it can take a few full drain/full charge cycles to get the most out of your battery. Both myself and my wife completely drained and then completely charged our batteries within the first two days.
I've had the DInc, eris, droid, and nexus one, i couldn't put into words how much better the battery is on my x. I mean its nothing like a dumbphone. But this thing packs as much punch as some older laptops so i don't expect a lot out of the battery. Check ur apps, sometimes u get ****ty" rogue" apps that screw it up, and if u use a task manager only kill intense apps like web or messages or gmail. The other processes are need to make the phone run correctly, i know i've seen better performance and battery life since i stopped using one.
sent from Shawn Micheals...The heartbreak Kid
I leave everything on wifi, gps, auto brightness, blue tooth, and im getting the best battery life of any phone i have ever owned, even better than my nexus one . My sister has a Droid X, and all she does is complain about her battery life. Although she is coming from a blackberry, i think that most people expect more from the battery than it can physically give, if you wonder about how long it lasts just take a look at the screen, and realize it takes alot of juice to run this huge beast .
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I've noticed the 50% bug on several x's including my own
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I had never heard of this before so I did some research and my X was doubling the time on in Cell Standby and showing 50% used. I was getting 12 - 13 hours of battery life. I did the airplane mode cycle trick and now I'm getting 24+ hours of battery life. And now Cell Standby displays normally. Amazing.
A big thanks to xmunk as that was the only thing that was driving me nuts about the X and I was thinking about getting a replacement. Now the battery life is great!
I would recommend anyone having poor battery life check to see what Cell Standby is reporting.
Oh wow.... Im showing since unplugging my phone 3hr 54m ago I've used the following for power:
51% Display
38% Cell Standby
12% Phone Idle
I just cycled Airplane mode and will checkout what happens next.
That a ton of power being used for standby. My Nexus one used 1-2% per hour while not in use and on standby. Battery left is estimating my battery is at 76% right now with a system % of 80% showing.
I hope this gets looked into.
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I had never heard of this before so I did some research and my X was doubling the time on in Cell Standby and showing 50% used. I was getting 12 - 13 hours of battery life. I did the airplane mode cycle trick and now I'm getting 24+ hours of battery life. And now Cell Standby displays normally. Amazing.
A big thanks to xmunk as that was the only thing that was driving me nuts about the X and I was thinking about getting a replacement. Now the battery life is great!
I would recommend anyone having poor battery life check to see what Cell Standby is reporting.
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Well- since you guys have already done all the work -would you mind maybe sharing a few links?
-thanks if you can.
Hey guys,
Just got my Epic yesterday.. coming from the G1 with lots of experience loading and tweaking ROMs and dealing with same/similar battery issues.
After unpacking the Epic I used it and let it drain down to zero before recharging it; after a full recharge, I loaded up the 7 screens with widgets and ran a live wallpaper (fish). I didn't really use the phone much at all and the phone went from 100% battery down to zero in the span of only four hours!!! Geeze, you've got to be kidding me - four hours battery life?? WTF????!!
Back to the drawing board: I rooted it and ran SetCPU with some power saving profiles. Removed the live wallpaper and went to stock wallpaper. Set display power off at 30 seconds. Note that 4G remains off since there's no 4G in my area..
Couple of questions:
1. Is there any way to toggle 2G/3G like there was on my old G1? I know that was a power saver.
2. I didn't stop to read all the documentation yet (typical male, I know) but is there any way to wake this thing up from sleep mode besides pressing the power button? I can see that power button breaking for as much use as it's getting from me constantly having to wake this thing up!
3. My brightness setting is set to auto - since the display is usually the biggest drain on these things, is there a recommended manual brightness setting (percentage) that seems to work well for you and saves on battery power?
I'm waiting for the Seideo Extended Battery (just like many of you) and am wondering if I should keep the Epic since I'm on the Sprint 30-day Easy Return program.
Appreciate hearing from everyone!
Chris R.
I don't have 4G where I am. But, I have a all black wallpaper(uses less power) and unrooted. I easily get about 12-18hr out of my phone wit normal use(text, talk, and surfing the net with skyfire). Only thing that really kills my battery are games(Robo Defense can take over 30min to play one game).
Thanks for the reply - situation NOT improving
Thanks for the reply.. unfortunately, the situation is not improving...
I tried setting a Sleep Profile using SetCPU that would under-clock the CPU (using the stock kernel) once the screen dimmed and the phone went into Sleep Mode. Unfortunately, as mentioned in another thread here, the result was that the phone froze and required a battery-pull to reset.
I'm really starting to lose my enthusiasm for this device; as beautiful a display and as responsive a CPU/GPU, all of that doesn't mean much if you don't have good power management built into the firmware. At 6PM this evening I pulled it off the charger at 67% charged, it's now 8:35 PM, only 2.5 hours later and I'm down to 22%. I'm in a decent coverage area and get 2-4 bars of 3G strength so I don't think it's an issue of the radio being the culprit; in-fact if you check the battery stats it reports that that lovely Display is accountable for 78% of the battery usage! So I guess we're paying a hefty price for these 4-inch AMOLED displays!
I read somewhere else that the most recent update (DI07) has caused the battery performance to decrease; since my unit is brand-new it immediately went and installed DI07 shortly after the first boot-up so I have nothing to compare it to.. can anyone comment on that?
Thanks!
Chris R.
I'm sure custom ROMs will put performance / battery life on the top of the list but until then, I use JuiceDefender beta and have seen pretty good results with it. It shuts off data whenever the screen is off and since my screen is off a good amount (only use my phone if I need to check email, call, and / or text, which is rare when I'm at work). Other than that, yes, use black wallpaper, lower brightness to the min. in the OS and browser, and don't leave apps that constantly use 3G open (things like ebuddy, pandora, etc.). 3G really destroys battery life so minimal use of 3G data would maximize battery life. Maybe the devs can figure out a way to get at least one full day of battery life on this phone. I'm hoping that is the case.
As to your post, yes, DI07 has resulted in poorer battery life, for whatever reason. I was definitely getting a few hours more with the older firmware. I would not lose hope yet. As disappointed as you are (and all of us are, I can assure you of that), the devs are really starting to push out nice ROMs already, and in a few weeks to a month, I bet we will see some solid battery life. Hell, even 2.2 should yield much better results. Patience
Thanks for the tip!
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I'm sure custom ROMs will put performance / battery life on the top of the list but until then, I use JuiceDefender beta and have seen pretty good results with it. It shuts off data whenever the screen is off and since my screen is off a good amount (only use my phone if I need to check email, call, and / or text, which is rare when I'm at work).
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Thanks for the reply! Also thanks for the tip regarding JuiceDefender! What a great app! will give it some more time and report results back here.
Thanks again!
Chris R.
nimaim said:
I'm sure custom ROMs will put performance / battery life on the top of the list but until then, I use JuiceDefender beta and have seen pretty good results with it. It shuts off data whenever the screen is off and since my screen is off a good amount (only use my phone if I need to check email, call, and / or text, which is rare when I'm at work). Other than that, yes, use black wallpaper, lower brightness to the min. in the OS and browser, and don't leave apps that constantly use 3G open (things like ebuddy, pandora, etc.). 3G really destroys battery life so minimal use of 3G data would maximize battery life. Maybe the devs can figure out a way to get at least one full day of battery life on this phone. I'm hoping that is the case.
As to your post, yes, DI07 has resulted in poorer battery life, for whatever reason. I was definitely getting a few hours more with the older firmware. I would not lose hope yet. As disappointed as you are (and all of us are, I can assure you of that), the devs are really starting to push out nice ROMs already, and in a few weeks to a month, I bet we will see some solid battery life. Hell, even 2.2 should yield much better results. Patience
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DI07 has hurt my battery life substantially. In fact, my battery drains very close to twice as fast now with the update. I don't understand what they did. My phone certainly doesn't seem any faster, my display is dimmer, and battery life sucks. I'm going to have to go back to DG27 so I can use my phone all day. With DI07 it always dies on me by mid afternoon. With DG27 it was still running by 11pm at night without even a battery low warning.
juice defender ftw
also, use advanced task killer with low security settings to kill all the background processes. Set the autokill to when the screen turns off. This keeps everything pretty well managed and helps with battery as well
JUICE DEFENDER BATTERY!!! Saved my phone from flying out of my car window at 10 in the morning........
here is a link to a thread I started.
Sharing my juice defender settings. I also use ultimate juice.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/sprint-epic-4g/133933-sharing-my-juice-defender-settings.html
I can get a day and a half (or slightly longer) out of a single charge.
YMMV.
Hope this helps
Advanced task killer + Juice Defender. You could also get some custom roms and Kernals that would help boost it.
But that's your best hope. Keep off 4g, wifi, bluetooth, etc.
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DI07 has hurt my battery life substantially. In fact, my battery drains very close to twice as fast now with the update. I don't understand what they did. My phone certainly doesn't seem any faster, my display is dimmer, and battery life sucks. I'm going to have to go back to DG27 so I can use my phone all day. With DI07 it always dies on me by mid afternoon. With DG27 it was still running by 11pm at night without even a battery low warning.
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Look here- try stopping the DRM service and see if that helps your battery life with D107
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Look here- try stopping the DRM service and see if that helps your battery life with D107
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Ah, the evils of DRM can strike in unexpected ways...
I wasn't really having a battery problem but I just turned DRM off, so we'll see if battery life improves anyway.
I had a whole long post here that got wiped with the xda disk array failure, so I'll just sum that up here too:
1) Use wi-fi if possible - it REALLY helps
2) 4G does not seem to use the battery any more than 3G, although hunting for 4G does and 4G coverage is not as extensive as 3G even in 4G areas. So it's still best to leave it off if you're moving around.
3) Dim your screen and use a dark, static background. AMOLED screens don't work like LCD's; they use more power the more pixels are lit and the brighter they are.
4) GPS also kills your battery - leave that off unless you need it too.
I think that's it. I get about 18 hours on DI07 (even before trying the DRM thing; maybe I can get to a full day!).
One thing I'm noticing after checking DRM - I've got Google Maps' LocationService popping up about every 10 seconds, and I can't seem to shut it off permanently. (I went into Lattitude and turned that off, not sure what else to do.) That can't be helping... anyone know how to get rid of that?
I'm using juice defender and a constant email junkie, but lite use on other aspects of the phone. It goes off charger at 5:30 am and I'm about 67% at around 3p. It then goes in the car charger on the way home. This has much better battery life than the Pre or the Hero as with both I had to turn off email to get it to last throughout the day.
I don't expect these phones to last days, but I expect any phone that I get to last the business day. I've always been one to charge overnight.
Wifi drains battery more from what I've read.
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I've heard the opposite that wifi (as long as it's connected) uses up less battery than 3g/4g. Any of them will suck the battery dry if they're searching, so make sure you have a connection to one of them.
Hi everyone, new to the forum. Just started checking it out when the Epic was released and this is my first post. Anyways, here's my question. My phone's been off the charger for 7 hours and 17 minutes and it is now down to 15%.
Display 79%
Cell standby 7%
Android System 4%
Phone idle 2%
Swype 2%
I've gone into the display settings and I thought I had set everything up optimally. The brightness is always very low. The screen timeout is 15 seconds and the keyboard matches that. I don't know what else I can do to cripple the phone to get the battery to last longer.
I have had wifi on, 4g off, bluetooth off, gps off. Really all I have done this afternoon while watching NFL games is check my yahoo fantasy score, play 2 games of WordFeud, and check twitter and facebook. I purchased Juice Defender a week ago and it has been running all day.
Any suggestions for how I can reduce the drain from the display? My background is a black and white picture of a friend of mine, which I thought would help.
Don't get me wrong, I love this phone. But the battery life I've seen is just terrible. I'd love to buy the extended battery from Seidio whenever its available, at least that would make it last longer even if the settings aren't tweaked.
Do you have juice defender installed?
Yep. Its installed and running now.
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Hi everyone, new to the forum. Just started checking it out when the Epic was released and this is my first post. Anyways, here's my question. My phone's been off the charger for 7 hours and 17 minutes and it is now down to 15%.
Display 79%
Cell standby 7%
Android System 4%
Phone idle 2%
Swype 2%
I've gone into the display settings and I thought I had set everything up optimally. The brightness is always very low. The screen timeout is 15 seconds and the keyboard matches that. I don't know what else I can do to cripple the phone to get the battery to last longer.
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There are only two reasons for your display to be using that much battery:
a) it's too bright, or
b) you're using it a lot.
If you're using the phone a lot, your battery's going to run out pretty quick and there's no way around that. If you're using it a "normal" amount, which to me means maybe an hour *total* per day of having the display on, then the other culprit is going to be your brightness. (Some would argue that's less than a normal amount, but think about it... you get a new phone, you're going to play with it for a week or two until you've seen all the cool stuff. But at some point you're going to start putting it away most of the time and just using it when someone calls you, you get a message/email or maybe to play a game or two while waiting for the train.)
Set your brightness *all* the way down, just as a test for a couple days. Make sure all the "power saving" features of the display are turned *off* (auto brightness, and whatever that "picture detection" feature's called, I can't remember). You just want the display as dim as possible all the time, just to see what happens. See what the battery usage says after a day or two of this.
My bet is that you'll see a drop, and then as you get into a more normal usage pattern it'll drop further still. You can raise the brightness a couple ticks then as you learn how to stretch your battery out.
Personally, my display is rarely over 15% or so of my usage. Today it's 29%, but it's a Sunday and I don't have anything better to do but play around on my phone.
btw, it's still the first day I've tried this but that DRM thing might be working. It's almost 9PM and I'm still on like 80% battery, and like I said I have been using the phone off and on throughout the day.
That has helped tremendously. I installed it pretty much when I got the phone and I'm able to last the whole work day with 67% left. (10 hour day)
I have read many other threads about improving battery life and such but I am still at a loss. My battery in my Epic is only lasting about 5 hours(9AM~1:30PM). I have a moderate signal the whole time and I am using the phone but I only have the screen on about 10% of the time according to Battery Stats(forget where I found this info, maybe spare parts?)
I have turned off Wifi, bluetooth, 4g, GPS only turns on when I open an app that needs it. I really have no idea what I am doing wrong since this seems to be completely terrible battery life. I have also killed the drm service and have found that it did not help my battery life much.
I am rooted and running Syndicate Rom 1.0.2(not froyo since I use a Mac and have not gotten my hands on a pc). I am using Xtreme Kernel clocked at a max of 1ghz.
Any other tips? Should I take the phone to Sprint and ask for a new battery? The phone at this point is only about 3 months old. If this seems to be normal for battery life then I am pretty sure I will be jumping ship and getting a new phone.
Zach
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I have read many other threads about improving battery life and such but I am still at a loss. My battery in my Epic is only lasting about 5 hours(9AM~1:30PM). I have a moderate signal the whole time and I am using the phone but I only have the screen on about 10% of the time according to Battery Stats(forget where I found this info, maybe spare parts?)
I have turned off Wifi, bluetooth, 4g, GPS only turns on when I open an app that needs it. I really have no idea what I am doing wrong since this seems to be completely terrible battery life. I have also killed the drm service and have found that it did not help my battery life much.
I am rooted and running Syndicate Rom 1.0.2(not froyo since I use a Mac and have not gotten my hands on a pc). I am using Xtreme Kernel clocked at a max of 1ghz.
Any other tips? Should I take the phone to Sprint and ask for a new battery? The phone at this point is only about 3 months old. If this seems to be normal for battery life then I am pretty sure I will be jumping ship and getting a new phone.
Zach
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Only advise I have is to toggle airplane mode after every boot and switch from the extreme kernel to pheonix 1.43, it has the best battery life by far as will any of the phenix kernels but 1.43 is the best
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I got 25 hours of a charge the other day. Had to grab a screen shot real quick before it **** down. Might frame it. On stock dk28 with moderate use, lots of pics...it was on christmas so it was prety well used, trying to escape conversations with in laws.
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I'm having the same exact problem. Same ROM and everything. I'm getting absolutely terrible battery life, maybe 5hrs on a full charge. Its ridiculous especially seeing how the nexus s is basically the same phone and gets nearly 20 hrs with no problem. WTF!!!??
Would bet a dollar that your phone is not entering sleep mode properly. Download Spare parts, charge your phone up, unplug it and turn the screen off and wait for like 10-20 minutes and then turn it on and open spare parts and look under Battery History. You will see that it will say Running 100% or something high like that.
This is probably because of something you set up. Either facebook updating every 30 seconds or maybe push email. I dont know.
I pretty much always get at least 24 hours and I work in a basement where I barely get a signal. I leave wifi on all day. I talk for about 20-45 a day on average. I listen to music for a couple hours a day. I play games for a good half hour of my lunch break and sometimes for an hour or two at night. Sometimes I forget to turn my gps off for half the day while I'm in the basement.
I have killed a battery in 6 hours when I spent the entire time downloading and playing games. And I had a battery last 42 hours a couple weeks ago when I was helping a buddy work on a car. We used it to drive some crappy pc speakers for music for about 8 hours in those two days and I spent a couple hours over those two days looking for info to help us diagnose his car.
I have been on Mammon's DK28 for a few weeks and have mostly been on the latest FroYo roms since the leaks starting hitting the public. I ran the same rom and kernel as you guys for a couple weeks, and I don't remember the battery being that bad. IIRC, I was overclocked and still saw 18+ hours of battery life with normal usage.
What are we doing differently? That is the question. Do you have a bunch of widgets and a live wallpaper? I don't. I try to keep my widgets pretty minimal. I have TWC on one screen, a flashlight widget on my main screen, and Pandora and PowerAmp on a third. I generally use a pretty dark wallpaper, too. Something simple and easy on the eyes as well as the amoled. I also keep my wifi on and set it to never sleep wifi. Why? So it doesn't search for a 3g data connection. I have wireless networks I can connect to in the places where I spend most of my time, so I might as well use them. Sure it has to power up the wifi radio, but the wifi radio seems to use very little power when you're sitting somewhere with a good signal. Also, read "How to Train Your Dragon" in the dev section. I have three batteries and generally reset the battery stats on one of them every two weeks. If you only have one battery, every 3-4 weeks is suggested. I always charge my batteries in the charger and almost never plug my phone in (because I don't have to) and about half the time I bump charge the battery after it is finished. Be careful with bump charging as it can reduce the number of charge cycles your battery can take, but can net you 10-15% more capacity in the short term. I rarely discharge my batteries below 15% except for when I'm recalibrating them. If you discharge your battery to too low of a voltage it can reduce capacity. And if voltage is reduced too low, it won't charge at all, but may be fixable with a cadex machine.
Be sure to go find that thread on how to train your dragon. There are some links in there that will teach you a good bit about how lithium ion batteries work and what you can do with them. After that, you need to see what is running on your phone to use that much battery. Is some process or group of process eating your processor?
edit: Look Mom, I wrote a book!
I will try changing kernels and updating to froyo(maybe hijack my dad's netbook).
If this doesn't work then I am going to go to sprint and see if they will swap out my battery. I tried the thing with spare parts and it says time running is 18% since last unplug which seems a bit high but not too ridiculous.
I have read and followed the instructions in how to train your dragon. I am really starting to think it is a faulty battery. I will report back, thank you everyone for the advice.
ok, thank you all for the advice. I am able to get through a whole day now on a charge since changing to Phoenix. Maxes out at about 10 hours as long as I am not constantly on it.
Updating to froyo later today.
Not really going to be helpful for you, but just my observation:
DK28 has MURDERED my battery life. Lots of people have issues with DK28, but the GPS, accelerometer, etc but all that stuff works fine for me - the only problem is the mega hit battery life took.
Let's hope the official release isn't as bad.
DK28 probably murdered your battery life because you forgot to do one of the battery saving techniques that you were using on your previous DI18 rom. Pretty much everyone else is seeing battery improvements with DK28.
I don't think so. I never use GPS, 4G or Wifi and I've always had the brightness auto adjust on.
Hey guys im in the process of doing a little experiment to see actually how much Juice Defender with Ultimate Juice actually improves the battery life on my Evo4G. I'm sure this has been done somewhere else i just couldn't find it so i decided to do the experiment myself and post my findings this may be useful to some people or may not!
Phone: Evo 4G
ROM: Cyanogen Mod 6.1.2
Kernal: Zendroid BFS @ 1.52ghz w/ smartass scaling
Launcher: Go Launcher
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Phone running Juice Defender With Ultimate Juice
Phone Unplugged At 11:42am
Phone Died At 8:59pm
Usage: For the most part it was moderate use, no gaming, 2 calls lasting for a total of aproximatly 45 minutes. 120 texts were sent and received 146 within the time frame. There was no browser usage just mostly texting like i said. 3 Pictures were taken. No Wifi. Bluetooth or 4G used either.
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Phone running without Juice Defender With Ultimate Juice
Phone Unplugged At: 2:50pm
Phone Died At: Never
Usage: Well my phone has been unplugged since 2:50pm and its now 12:35am and my battery is sitting at 55%. Weird... very weird. I had about the same usage as yesterday i played 1 game for a total of probably 10minutes and installed 4 apps. A had wifi enabled for probably an hour total.
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Final Thought: I think Juice Defender doesnt help at all, infact it seems to hurt your battery more than anything. I think it may be because its constantly turning things off and back on consuming battery? Thats the only thing i can think of. Does anyone else have any thoughts on why this is? Using Juice Defender reduced my battery life dramatically it almost cut its life in half as a matter of fact. Please share your thoughts on why this is people!
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beanx said:
Hey guys im in the process of doing a little experiment to see actually how much Juice Defender with Ultimate Juice actually improves the battery life on my Evo4G. I'm sure this has been done somewhere else i just couldn't find it so i decided to do the experiment myself and post my findings this may be useful to some people or may not!
Phone: Evo 4G
ROM: Cyanogen Mod 6.1.2
Kernal: Zendroid BFS @ 1.52ghz w/ smartass scaling
Launcher: Go Launcher
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Phone running Juice Defender With Ultimate Juice
Phone Unplugged At 11:42am
Phone Died At 8:59pm
Usage: For the most part it was moderate use, no gaming, 2 calls lasting for a total of aproximatly 45 minutes. 120 texts were sent and received 146 within the time frame. There was no browser usage just mostly texting like i said. 3 Pictures were taken. No Wifi. Bluetooth or 4G used either.
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Phone running without Juice Defender With Ultimate Juice
Phone Unplugged At: 2:50pm
Phone Died At: Never
Usage: Well my phone has been unplugged since 2:50pm and its now 12:35am and my battery is sitting at 55%. Weird... very weird. I had about the same usage as yesterday i played 1 game for a total of probably 10minutes and installed 4 apps. A had wifi enabled for probably an hour total.
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Final Thought: I think Juice Defender doesnt help at all, infact it seems to hurt your battery more than anything. I think it may be because its constantly turning things off and back on consuming battery? Thats the only thing i can think of. Does anyone else have any thoughts on why this is? Using Juice Defender reduced my battery life dramatically it almost cut its life in half as a matter of fact. Please share your thoughts on why this is people!
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thanks for the info. i try to tell people that juice defender doesn't help. but no one listens so i gave up and just tell them cool app and walk away lol.
very helpful post. I noticed too it doesnt seem to really help it just monitors mobile data and turns it off when screen is off and occasionally powers it on to download emails and ****. I dont like it because i like to kno when i get an email instantly versus it checking every 30 min.
I also found that juice defender seemed to have a negligible impact on my battery life while also decreasing speed of sync/convenience. You'll notice that it also makes android system skyrocket towards the top of the battery use list.
On a related note, I also found that setcpu profiles don't have an impact on battery life and may even hurt.
Ultimately, android is optimized to manage a lot of these things on its own and introducing an app that consumes battery both monitoring and brute forcing some of these activities doesn't make sense. The only active monitoring app I use now is Tasker for some specialized automation activities.
i cant believe this is an app that most people recommend to improve battery life tho. Especially with how much it hurts rather than helps. Very disappointing.
It has helped mine because I use the widget to manually shut it off and on. I don't let it control it. Since the epic doesn't have the shut off data in the power menu its good for me. Otherwise I agree with you all. I keep my data off until I need it to look something up. Personal preference. But hey it does shut my data off when I tell it to.
Sent from my Epic 4G
Rom: Never stock, but always with some Gingerbread.
I had been using juice defender and setcpu for a while trying to get the best battery life, but I ditched them both about a month ago and I'm getting better life than ever before lol
I've got 58% left in the battery and the phone has been up for 32 hours. I thought I was helping by micromanaging the phone with JD but I think it was really just hurting it.
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I've got 58% left in the battery and the phone has been up for 32 hours. I thought I was helping by micromanaging the phone with JD but I think it was really just hurting it.
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32 hours up and only down to 58%? Mind if I ask how you set thigns up that your phone is so energy efficient?
It was a great application, Donut times, it literally made my Magic 32a survive the day against the not-even-a-day battery life at those times. Nowadays it is simply useless due to android better app management.
Hmmm...I have been using this for a few months now and I've seen dramatic improvement in my battery life. I usually unplug my phone at 7 each morning and by noon on moderate usage days I'm at 60%. Using JuiceDefender, my phone is typically at 80%. By 5pm with its only at %60. Normally I would get home at 5 and it would be around 30%. Interesting.
Running Samsung Captivate
Stock Android Eclair 2.1
Rooted
Zeam Launcher
With more iterations of Android they are improving power managment, Ya back a little bit ago this helped some people alittle it closing out processes and way to handle things but with android development alot of this stuff is getting worked into the OS, basically now all your doing is running a app constantley that does something handled by the OS now in newer builds.
I wonder in some cases if the juice defender and the OS both trying to do power management if it can actually cause more power loss due to a conflict in the two trying to controll items. Of course OS should have higher pid but could cause some of your increased power drain using both
try the beta
im using it on my epic and my evo i think it helps both but i am also using the free beta i dont think the regular one works
i'm shocked there's even a thread for this. i put it on a stock epic and it made a WORLD of difference.. especially in locations where my signal was poor and evdo service kept dropping. my issues with it are of a different nature. seems to get corrupt alot and the wifi locations service sucks
Hmm, i'm confused on how this could actually hurt battery life, especially by the amount you displayed unless you have it doing all kinds of other management as well. I have mine setup to only manage the data APN, disabling on screen off, and seem to have gained decent battery life from it. The widget to toggle data on/jd on/off is very handy as well.
Pretty sure android doesn't do anything natively that turns off data when phone is at rest/screen off, does it? Someone please correct me if i'm wrong.
I will admit, the new versions of JD do seem to be pretty bloated and sluggish.. i've been on the fence of whether to remove or not... The main reason i keep it on my device is because i work in a basement and get about 65% TWS and severe battery drain from that. With JD managing 3G, it helps mitigate that somewhat, and having it be automatic is much more convenient than toggling it manually all the time.
I may have to join you on some testing, because if JD is not gaining me anything, i'll definately be removing it as it sometimes causes some initial sluggishness when turning the screen on. From daily usage experiences (and i watch it like a hawk), my battery life has definately not been made worse.. older versions seemed to net me more life, and i'm undecided on the new versions. Not enough time with it on/off to decide yet.
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JD helps... it will slow down notifications and stuff, if you need always on data then this won't help. However, during the day I'm usually already online and don't need non-stop notifications and if you use JuicePlotter you can clearly see that while sitting idle with JuiceDefender on you use significantly less battery than if you don't have JuiceDefender active and have it sitting idle.
for those that think jd works...
are you using the free, pro, or ultimate version? looking to buy if it really saves battery life.
which configs did you use? I had it a few months ago and my battery did actually improve. Trying some different settings makes a huge improvement.
I am using superpower now. (from XDA actually) And this is really working, it also takes some configuration, but eventually it will benefit your battery life.
Superpower turns data to 2g when your screen is off, disables wifi and bluetooth and sets your cpu to a 400mhz cap (at least with my phone) I noticed a 1% overnight drain and a 200% increase in battery life. (basically I do two days with heavy use vs. one day before)
Hope this helps some people!
The only thing that actually changes the battery in an evo is a kernel. No quick fix app is going to help how your system interacts with your battery! Senseui is garbage and it sucks up battery life like no bodies business!