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I know there's quite a few apps out there.. What do you guys use, and why? Any particular reason you prefer app A over app B?
Naturally, also, free is better..
Thanks!
EDIT: Also looking to see if there are any that do any sort of logging.. For example, if CPU is running at 70% util for 5 seconds or longer, log what processes are running and are taking up what percent of CPU util. Not sure if that capability exists in any of the apps, but it would help tracking done some random issues I'm having with my 8525..
sk0t said:
I know there's quite a few apps out there.. What do you guys use, and why? Any particular reason you prefer app A over app B?
Naturally, also, free is better..
Thanks!
EDIT: Also looking to see if there are any that do any sort of logging.. For example, if CPU is running at 70% util for 5 seconds or longer, log what processes are running and are taking up what percent of CPU util. Not sure if that capability exists in any of the apps, but it would help tracking done some random issues I'm having with my 8525..
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Regtweak is a very useful tool to monitor the actual CPU usage / frequency on XScale devices: http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=96798
The Samsungs aren't Xscale though, are they?
Thanks for the link though!
taskmanager 2.3 does what you want quite well I think; give a try. It is free
I remember a while ago, I downloaded an app from somewhere, called "Nuetools NueOverclockTest" Actually, it WAS designed for the HD Blackstone...moving on
The app did NOT work on the HD, as it crashed. However, it works on the HD2 (I presume)
My question is : Does it ACTUALLY LOWER THE CLOCK SPEED?
The HD2 is clocked at 1024 mhz, this program "overclocks" the HD to 768 mh from 528 mhz.....now, if this lowers the HD2 clock speed to 768 mhz...that could save a bit more battery life! Could someone perhaps check into this and see if the clock speed changes? Thanks a lot
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I remember a while ago, I downloaded an app from somewhere, called "Nuetools NueOverclockTest" Actually, it WAS designed for the HD Blackstone...moving on
The app did NOT work on the HD, as it crashed. However, it works on the HD2 (I presume)
My question is : Does it ACTUALLY LOWER THE CLOCK SPEED?
The HD2 is clocked at 1024 mhz, this program "overclocks" the HD to 768 mh from 528 mhz.....now, if this lowers the HD2 clock speed to 768 mhz...that could save a bit more battery life! Could someone perhaps check into this and see if the clock speed changes? Thanks a lot
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simple benchmark for yourself
download TCPMP or Coreplayer
get a video file
run tcpmp benchmark on it with and without clock change
Hmmm tbh not much difference Just a little teeny weeny bit slower...
Thanks for the idea bro I've posted 2 screenshots, before and after! And ofc the program xD
Perhaps I need someone more skilled to try this out for me...I AM a noob after all xD
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from what i've read elsewhere in the forums our processor isn't always operating at 1ghz, when the system isnt being taxed the prossessor idles at a lower speed, then when called on kicks in to full speed. therefore saving battery life already, but i don't claim to be an expert, just regurgitating what i read elsewhere!
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from what i've read elsewhere in the forums our processor isn't always operating at 1ghz, when the system isnt being taxed the prossessor idles at a lower speed, then when called on kicks in to full speed. therefore saving battery life already, but i don't claim to be an expert, just regurgitating what i read elsewhere!
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Yay! Thanks Omg i'm such a noob :$
Read this topic:
How to include 1GHz-Hack in stock-ROM - xda-developers
There is an utility showing CPU clock on the last pages.
Nue Overclock test was designed for the CDMA Touch Pro 1 to overclock to 800Mhz. It wouldn't work to underclock a different device. The processors are too different. TP1's Processor is an MSM 7XXX series and the HD2's Snapdragon is an MSM 8XXX series.
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Is anyone else experiencing this? On web pages or long lists, scrolling around is not nearly as smooth as it should be. My brother has a Hero, and the Evo is not as bad as that... but it is nowhere near as smooth as an iPhone is. If I scroll around quickly, it gets pretty jumpy, where the frame rate slows down a lot. I read another thread (maybe on a different forum) where people claim that it's just the difference between the speed of scrolling and/or the "coasting" feature of the phones, but this is not what I'm referring to. I'm referring to mainly the frame rate of scrolling around and also the lag between when my finger moves and when the action takes place. It is most apparent on bigger web pages and long lists (like the Manage Application list). But it also does not happen all the time.
I have Advanced Task Killer running too, set at "Crazy" and the kill frequency set to "When screen off". Is there anything else I can do to make scrolling smoother?
I'm sick of having my friends who have iPhones playing with it, and immediately commenting on how it's not nearly as responsive.
Any ideas?
I played with an EVO in the Sprint store yesterday and noticed the same thing. While overall I found it to be really fast, in some areas (like switching between home screens) it was noticeably choppy compared to my Hero. Though I should note that my Hero is rooted and running Fresh 2.1.1.
One suggestion I might make is to not use overly aggressive settings with a task killer. This has been known to cause some odd behavior with Android including choppiness.
Working amazingly for me. As close to the smoothness of an iPhone as I've ever seen.
Have you tried a full restore? Keep checking after each app installation to figure out what (if anything) is causing the problem.
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Do you have Live Wallpaper running?
I do not. In fact while "conditioning" my battery, brightness down minimum, WiFi/GPS/4G/Bluetooth all off as well.
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How much free memory do you have?
I noticed the choppiness too but it wasn't too bad, just unfitting of a phone with such high specs.
It's because of the Live Wallpapers, some are more processor intensive than others so some it's more noticeable on than others. Put a regular Wallpaper up and everythings nice and smooth.
I don't use Live Wallpapers anymore, they were cool for awhile but after a couple months of them on my Nexus the novelty has worn off.
I notice it also even with a regular wallpaper..i mean its pretty smooth but it does lag a bit.
I notice laggy scrolling within the HTC-built applications. For example, when looking through contact information or social updates. The scrolling is really bad, and I think that just might be because of the huge amount of information the HTC apps are processing. I'm sure all the social information being pulled from every end of the Internet isn't the easiest thing for the device to do, even if it is the Evo.
Aside from that, everything else is as smooth as butter.
Still stock on mine and I haven't noticed any lag, though I use Dolphin HD and Skyfire.
I don't have Live Wallpaper running, and about 200MB of free memory.
And I don't think it's with the HTC-built applications only. I notice it in most applications. Just put an iPhone right beside it and scroll around on both... huge difference.
I just changed the settings on Advanced Task Killer to Aggressive (down from Crazy) and Every half hour (down from When screen off). Maybe this will help... we'll see. Maybe Advanced Task Killer is not the best app for this? Are there any better ones? Why didn't Google have this built in if it really helped so much with speed+battery life?
Maybe FroYo will fix this issue? Does anyone know when this will be available?
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Maybe FroYo will fix this issue? Does anyone know when this will be available?
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I have noticed this too at times. Froyo made my Nexus One a hell of a lot faster, it will do the same for the Evo
Still on Stock rom and no root, scrolling, pinch zoom are all smooth and fast.
theoner1 said:
Still on Stock rom and no root, scrolling, pinch zoom are all smooth and fast.
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Have you compared it to an iPhone though?
shawnee4885 said:
Have you compared it to an iPhone though?
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I've seen this too and mentioned it to other Android people... and was promptly called a cry baby. I am coming from a 3gs...and just thought it was silly the 1ghz chip in this phone cant compare to the 600mhz chip in the iphone.
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I've seen this too and mentioned it to other Android people... and was promptly called a cry baby. I am coming from a 3gs...and just thought it was silly the 1ghz chip in this phone cant compare to the 600mhz chip in the iphone.
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It's all about the quality of the programming, i'm not calling htc programers bad but it seems like some of their stuff is just slow.
Grims said:
I've seen this too and mentioned it to other Android people... and was promptly called a cry baby. I am coming from a 3gs...and just thought it was silly the 1ghz chip in this phone cant compare to the 600mhz chip in the iphone.
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First u have to realize that the iphone was built with its gpu base OS. So all the scrolling and animation are base on gpu WITH THE HELP OF CPU. Android will be more dificult since of all its different hardware. Iphone OS is just base on iphone hardware but If iphone was running without gpu support, it would move like crap.
One example of this is zuneHD. it is base on a hardware base on tegra with gpu support and is smoother than iphone since tegra is a more capable gpu chip.
This discussion has been on and off with palmpre guys and waiting for an update to enable gpu support in the OS. Gpu support is supported in game but not in the OS for scrolling etc. Just like android.
This is the reason the iphone can run smooth at low mhz. The iphone 2g even at its low mhz still is smoother in scrolling and transiction than android because of it gpu intigrationbut ofcourse not faster. Hope this help.
Another example is compiz for linux. It create a semi gpu OS of linux and u can see how compiz on linux look light yeat better and smoother than wimdows 7 with a much lower hardware spec.
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First u have to realize that the iphone was built with its gpu base OS. So all the scrolling and animation are base on gpu WITH THE HELP OF CPU. Android will be more dificult since of all its different hardware. Iphone OS is just base on iphone hardware but If iphone was running without gpu support, it would move like crap.
One example of this is zuneHD. it is base on a hardware base on tegra with gpu support and is smoother than iphone since tegra is a more capable gpu chip.
This discussion has been on and off with palmpre guys and waiting for an update to enable gpu support in the OS. Gpu support is supported in game but not in the OS for scrolling etc. Just like android.
This is the reason the iphone can run smooth at low mhz. The iphone 2g even at its low mhz still is smoother in scrolling and transiction than android because of it gpu intigrationbut ofcourse not faster. Hope this help.
Another example is compiz for linux. It create a semi gpu OS of linux and u can see how compiz on linux look light yeat better and smoother than wimdows 7 with a much lower hardware spec.
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Thanks that explains a lot, i wasn't aware Android doesn't use GPU support in this area.
I just wanted to throw this in. I know everyone is comparing things like the scrolling framerate to the iPhone's. But there is one slight issue that a lot of developers can tell you off the bat.
JAVA
iPhone is not based on java and android UI is. This is sort of why JIT is slated to make such a big difference. Java is just laggy, especially when it comes to UI. For instance: open office, eclipse, and just about any other java based app I see on linux. GTK apps are fine in ubuntu, but when I open eclipse I just know there is a delay between when I click the "file" menu and when it actually opens.
I noticed it on my hero, and no amount of free ram or killing apps would completely get rid of it. Now I have to say going from the hero to the evo I honestly do not notice any lag. But the UI on the hero just has a solid delay EVERYWHERE you go. But I noticed it was not there as soon as I got into a game written in the dalvik way. It will come, and we will eventually be there. But I don't blame it on hardware. Core2quad in eclipse and the UI lags? Blame it on Java.
Now I know some folks will say "nu uhh. such and such java android app doesn't do that!" But almost all apps for android and sense do this if they are written in java. Some more than others.
One final thing, there are several articles about why you shouldn't use task killers. It became perfectly clear it was a bad idea on some of toast's later kernel. and yes, the memory management can be improved for root users. but for non root users, I know it is counter-intuitive but task killers have major drawbacks. Just do some searching and decide for yourself, but I noticed a huge difference on my hero when I stopped using a task killer and allowed the default memory management to take over. And honestly, on my EVO I don't EVER notice a slow down.
Is the Dell Streak Overclockable ?
can we overclock it like other android phones with the snapdragon ?
53 views and not even one answer , interesting
Everyone is too concentrated with the update release lol.
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maan1976 said:
Is the Dell Streak Overclockable ?
can we overclock it like other android phones with the snapdragon ?
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Yes. http://twitter.com/DMonsterProd/status/5776143839924224
And also: http://twitter.com/DMonsterProd/status/5777150581936128
I suspect from this evening it is. DJ Steve is releasing 1.4 of his rom which includes overclocking Keep an eye on the Modaco Streak forum tonite.
yes you can ... no you dont want to..
da_jojo said:
yes you can ... no you dont want to..
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why wouldn't you want to?
xilpaxim said:
why wouldn't you want to?
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if you run the device overclocked and at maximum cpu it will generate additional heat and wear on the internal components. the build-in cooler is not designed to dissipate this heat, thus shortening the device's lifespan. besides that it shortens batterylife.
da_jojo said:
if you run the device overclocked and at maximum cpu it will generate additional heat and wear on the internal components. the build-in cooler is not designed to dissipate this heat, thus shortening the device's lifespan. besides that it shortens batterylife.
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Been running overclocked to 1152000 since yesterday. Battery not noticably different. Using SetCPU which downclocks when Streak is not doing anything. Nice benchmark results, smooth as butter interface, games run very sweetly, no crashes. Indeed it may shorten device life but not outside acceptable boundries. Obviously if you go crazy with it it will do some damage. Bit like a Turbo vs Nitrous?
i ran an htc artemis phone with 33% overclock for 3.5 years without any problems. still working
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Been running overclocked to 1152000 since yesterday. Battery not noticably different. Using SetCPU which downclocks when Streak is not doing anything. Nice benchmark results, smooth as butter interface, games run very sweetly, no crashes. Indeed it may shorten device life but not outside acceptable boundries. Obviously if you go crazy with it it will do some damage. Bit like a Turbo vs Nitrous?
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that seems reasonable. max overclock would be around 1.3 ghz i presume.
the snapdragon does frequency stepping so there wouldnt be any need to use a program for that.
mrdegriz said:
Been running overclocked to 1152000 since yesterday. Battery not noticably different. Using SetCPU which downclocks when Streak is not doing anything. Nice benchmark results, smooth as butter interface, games run very sweetly, no crashes. Indeed it may shorten device life but not outside acceptable boundries. Obviously if you go crazy with it it will do some damage. Bit like a Turbo vs Nitrous?
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how to set MAX Freq to 1.3G by myself?
Interesting. Love to try oc an extra 200 mhz to see if it improvement thw gaming expecience.
Was playing dungeon defender and still can understand at 1ghz why thw gameplay is stilk sluggish
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If you install dj_steve's rom it's already overclocked. OC does make a lot of difference even at 200mhz. I was only getting less than a thousand on quadrant but with the OC and the new rom, there are times that i get past 2200 almost as good as my G2 but not quiet....
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Hi,
thinking of make launcher(s) as smooth as possible, while keeping best possible battery life, I was thinking os a probably foolish thing:
could be possible to write a script (even an init.d or something similar) that finds which CPU core is running the launcher and then sets up frequencies/governor for that core only ?
This way one could define the good performance/power level for the overall phone and apps, while still boosting the launcher performance.
Totally crazy ?
Doable ? How ?
Dual core is why we bought the S2 for mate
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leminhnguyen0703 said:
Dual core is why we bought the S2 for mate
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Maybe it's so, but still some clever heads are doing good work making new opporutinies for us.
Tegrak has made an app 2nd Core, witch make you set these 3 different options, but only for Lutz kernel build 15 and up. Siyah's kernel is coming up with a beta soon supporting the settings below. For now you only see what core is active/inacitve.
[ Features ]
*Set on boot
Change mode what you selected automatically on boot time.
Menu > Settings
[ Modes ]
*Dynamic Hotplug Mode
Default. Recently, mobile multicore CPUs turn off extra core(s) to save battery life when system is not busy and only use 1 core.
They turn on extra core(s) when system is busy. so system use all cores again.
*Single Core Mode
Use 1 core always. A extra core is shut down. It makes battery life longer but performance is decreased.
*Dual Core Mode
Use 2 cores always. Performance is increased but battery life is shorter than others.
https://market.android.com/details?...1bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS50ZWdyYWsuc2Vjb25kY29yZSJd
If it will possible to set different OC's,UV's for each core, I don't know but lets see what the Lutz and the Siyah kernels brings in the future.
nilste said:
Maybe it's so, but still some clever heads are doing good work making new opporutinies for us.
Tegrak has made an app 2nd Core, witch make you set these 3 different options, but only for Lutz kernel build 15 and up. Siyah's kernel is coming up with a beta soon supporting the settings below. For now you only see what core is active/inacitve.
[ Features ]
*Set on boot
Change mode what you selected automatically on boot time.
Menu > Settings
[ Modes ]
*Dynamic Hotplug Mode
Default. Recently, mobile multicore CPUs turn off extra core(s) to save battery life when system is not busy and only use 1 core.
They turn on extra core(s) when system is busy. so system use all cores again.
*Single Core Mode
Use 1 core always. A extra core is shut down. It makes battery life longer but performance is decreased.
*Dual Core Mode
Use 2 cores always. Performance is increased but battery life is shorter than others.
https://market.android.com/details?...1bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS50ZWdyYWsuc2Vjb25kY29yZSJd
If it will possible to set different OC's,UV's for each core, I don't know but lets see what the Lutz and the Siyah kernels brings in the future.
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+1. This is pure ingenuous. Since our phones seldom used the second core, it currently.is a battery hog and this app will brilliantly manage our battery life while maintaining the same level of performance. This will definitely improve our battery life by a significant margin.
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Probably I was too optimistic thinking Android is capable to turning off unused cores ?
My initial goal was to
- find which core executes home launcher (let's say core 2)
- leave core 1 untouched (1200/200)
- overclock core 2 to 1600/200
yet, if Android (or MIUI kernel to say my example) is dumb about switching off unused core, the solution discussed above becomes really interesting...
It is impossible to clock the cores independently. It IS possible to completely shut down the second core, effectively removing it from the system. Our system does this by default.
It's already done when system load is low. arighi has some kernel patches that change the hotplug heuristics to change when the second core gets fired up:
https://github.com/arighi/linux-gt-i9100
He's got a thread on it somewhere too.
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It is impossible to clock the cores independently. It IS possible to completely shut down the second core, effectively removing it from the system. Our system does this by default.
It's already done when system load is low. arighi has some kernel patches that change the hotplug heuristics to change when the second core gets fired up:
https://github.com/arighi/linux-gt-i9100
He's got a thread on it somewhere too.
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If i remember rights there was a script tath can undervolt cpu independently, but i think that the launcher dont use especialy one core, but switch or use both of them