Is the Dell Streak Overclockable ?
can we overclock it like other android phones with the snapdragon ?
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Everyone is too concentrated with the update release lol.
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maan1976 said:
Is the Dell Streak Overclockable ?
can we overclock it like other android phones with the snapdragon ?
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Yes. http://twitter.com/DMonsterProd/status/5776143839924224
And also: http://twitter.com/DMonsterProd/status/5777150581936128
I suspect from this evening it is. DJ Steve is releasing 1.4 of his rom which includes overclocking Keep an eye on the Modaco Streak forum tonite.
yes you can ... no you dont want to..
da_jojo said:
yes you can ... no you dont want to..
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why wouldn't you want to?
xilpaxim said:
why wouldn't you want to?
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if you run the device overclocked and at maximum cpu it will generate additional heat and wear on the internal components. the build-in cooler is not designed to dissipate this heat, thus shortening the device's lifespan. besides that it shortens batterylife.
da_jojo said:
if you run the device overclocked and at maximum cpu it will generate additional heat and wear on the internal components. the build-in cooler is not designed to dissipate this heat, thus shortening the device's lifespan. besides that it shortens batterylife.
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Been running overclocked to 1152000 since yesterday. Battery not noticably different. Using SetCPU which downclocks when Streak is not doing anything. Nice benchmark results, smooth as butter interface, games run very sweetly, no crashes. Indeed it may shorten device life but not outside acceptable boundries. Obviously if you go crazy with it it will do some damage. Bit like a Turbo vs Nitrous?
i ran an htc artemis phone with 33% overclock for 3.5 years without any problems. still working
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Been running overclocked to 1152000 since yesterday. Battery not noticably different. Using SetCPU which downclocks when Streak is not doing anything. Nice benchmark results, smooth as butter interface, games run very sweetly, no crashes. Indeed it may shorten device life but not outside acceptable boundries. Obviously if you go crazy with it it will do some damage. Bit like a Turbo vs Nitrous?
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that seems reasonable. max overclock would be around 1.3 ghz i presume.
the snapdragon does frequency stepping so there wouldnt be any need to use a program for that.
mrdegriz said:
Been running overclocked to 1152000 since yesterday. Battery not noticably different. Using SetCPU which downclocks when Streak is not doing anything. Nice benchmark results, smooth as butter interface, games run very sweetly, no crashes. Indeed it may shorten device life but not outside acceptable boundries. Obviously if you go crazy with it it will do some damage. Bit like a Turbo vs Nitrous?
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how to set MAX Freq to 1.3G by myself?
Interesting. Love to try oc an extra 200 mhz to see if it improvement thw gaming expecience.
Was playing dungeon defender and still can understand at 1ghz why thw gameplay is stilk sluggish
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If you install dj_steve's rom it's already overclocked. OC does make a lot of difference even at 200mhz. I was only getting less than a thousand on quadrant but with the OC and the new rom, there are times that i get past 2200 almost as good as my G2 but not quiet....
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Would love to see some ROM's with SetCPU or Overclocking options. I heard the Droid could be overclocked. Wonder if Aria has a "Stable happy medium" that is around 800-1000mhz?
I don't think that It could be clocked at 1Ghz, more like 700Mhz. That just seems more likely.
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larry996 said:
Would love to see some ROM's with SetCPU or Overclocking options. I heard the Droid could be overclocked. Wonder if Aria has a "Stable happy medium" that is around 800-1000mhz?
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I would definitely enjoy 1Ghz on my little buddy. Sort of a mini Nexus
Has anyone even tried to overclock?
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Has anyone even tried to overclock?
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Never saw a stock kernel you could overclock. You could download setcpu and play with it. Maybe once we get some custom kernels it will work.
Not sure where the problem is with speed though - this thing is pretty zippy as it is.
Yea, it's pretty fast to me. I think the 600Mhz processor must be a different design than the old 528Mhz processor, because it seems to be much faster. I'm pretty satisfied as it is. Is there a certain app that is running too slow on your phone?
Yeah I agree that the processor Is great as is. I havent noticed any lag at all. even 3d games are running without lag for the most part. If it were overclocked the only difference I think that could be needed is performance with the gpu. Set cpu cant overclock the stock kernel but if we do get a custom kernel im sure we'd be able to overclock it.
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You can never have too much performance. I would love to be able to overclock.
Gpu wise we're fine as we have the same one as the Incredible and Evo, but our cpu is a bit weak. The Incredible and Evo, while they may not be any faster through the menus, are able to do things like loading web pages faster than us because of their faster cpu.
gtg465x said:
You can never have too much performance. I would love to be able to overclock.
Gpu wise we're fine as we have the same one as the Incredible and Evo, but our cpu is a bit weak. The Incredible and Evo, while they may not be any faster through the menus, are able to do things like loading web pages faster than us because of their faster cpu.
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What makes you say the CPU is weak? I'm don't buy for a second that the CPU is a gating web page refresh speeds.
The CPU is not the same architecture as the old 528 mhz HTCs. The Aria does not need a 1 ghz Snapdragon to perform very well given the graphics requirement of the screen which has far less resolution to manage and requires far less from the both CPU and GPU, and given that this is a small smartphone, and not a game deck. You can't underestimate the difference in power required to drive a 480x800 compared to a 320x480 display. It's enormous for devices like these.
I am sure in time this device will be overclocked by some just because it can be, but the vast majority of us aren't worried about playing Warcraft on the Aria. People who want to do that aren't looking at the Aria is the first place, with it's 3.2" screen, which fits nicely wherever a portable phone might, but isn't going to make anyone go "oh wow, is that a flatscreen tv in your pocket or are you happy to see me?"
If you want to overclock yours, you are perfectly free to do so - once we get another kernel choice that supports it.
I think when you consider running Flash on your phone, there is NO such thing as too much performance.
When you consider full screen flash at 320x480 vs 480x800, the Aria can hold it's own against the larger Snapdragons. If the Aria has trouble with full screen flash, it's not because of the Aria, and it's not because the processor is weak.
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When you consider full screen flash at 320x480 vs 480x800, the Aria can hold it's own against the larger Snapdragons. If the Aria has trouble with full screen flash, it's not because of the Aria, and it's not because the processor is weak.
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I concede that you have a point.
we might need a kernal that support over 600mhz .
How did they overclock the driod? Is that kernel or setcpu?
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Using the kernel eljefe27 links and overclockwidget I was able to overclock to 806mhz and get a higher quadrant score. I'm running ATTN1's fr006 rom(froyo+sense.) All apps stable as far as I can tell and network functional. Under advanced settings the app can define its own possible overclock values for the CPU. I'm wondering if its missing higher clocks, as there is the option to set them manually. Im just scared to, lol.
Because I can't post outside links, the kernel can be found hya:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821933&highlight=overclock
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light24bulbs said:
Using the kernel eljefe27 links and overclockwidget I was able to overclock to 806mhz and get a higher quadrant score. I'm running ATTN1's fr006 rom(froyo+sense.) All apps stable as far as I can tell and network functional. Under advanced settings the app can define its own possible overclock values for the CPU. I'm wondering if its missing higher clocks, as there is the option to set them manually. Im just scared to, lol.
Because I can't post outside links, the kernel can be found hya:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821933&highlight=overclock
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Untrue. It may be unstable for you but not everyone. I'm currently running at 825mhz, was running at 844mhz.
Your mileage may vary.
I heard overclocking 33% over stock is a good benchmark for performance.
Some android devices based on snapdragon, raise the 1200mhz, HD2 can?
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tomeu0000 said:
Some android devices based on snapdragon, raise the 1200mhz, HD2 can?
thx
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In theory, sure.
In practice, I don't think it's sustainable. You could modify a kernel and try for yourself! But overclocking your cpu is going to degrade it, and the gain wouldn't be that noticable. Also it would be pretty unstable I suppose!
atticus182 said:
In theory, sure.
In practice, I don't think it's sustainable. You could modify a kernel and try for yourself! But overclocking your cpu is going to degrade it, and the gain wouldn't be that noticable. Also it would be pretty unstable I suppose!
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I would encourage you to do a little more research into overclocking. Some kernels allow up to 1190mhz through setCPU and i have played games at this speed - so for real life use that speed has been stable. A thorough benchmark will better test the stability, but only if you raise the voltage will the CPU's life be effected, but if by only a small amount then you will probably upgrade before the CPU is anywhere near giving up. I do agree with the post above that there will be little noticable change in experience, but this will show in benchmarks.
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Hey everyone...I tell ya, I sure am enjoying all these awesome custom roms and kernels. Great job to all the developers here, putting in the blood, sweat, and tears for the advancement of the community, thank you so much. One feature that I saw in a Xoom build was the GPU overclocked, and while I'm sure it won't interest everyone, and there is probably only little gain to be had from it, I would love to have the option to oc the CPU and the GPU for the highest performance possible...please. Well I think that covers it unless someone else shares my desire to see this feature. Thanks for all your work and consideration XDA and have a great day.
if ur CPU OC than GPU too
Apparently not so on the Motorola Xoom as there are two versions of Tiamat 1.4.4... with and without GPU OC. Tiamat 1.4.4 Full Throttle
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Apparently not so on the Motorola Xoom as there are two versions of Tiamat 1.4.4... with and without GPU OC. Tiamat 1.4.4 Full Throttle
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oc-ing the gpu doesnt get you anything... gpu is default 200mhz 2d with 300mhz in 3d and it can be uped to 250mhz 2d and 400mhz 3d but it cant be software controlled and it will eat more power...
and no oc-ing the cpu doesn't oc the gpu, its a separate part of the tegra2 processor
Hey Thor, thanks for joining the conversation. Based on what youve seen so far, how well are the tegra GPU cores being utilized? Suffice to say I've pulled off insane desktop GPU overclocks that showed almost nill gain with drivers that werent mature in which the GPU cores werent being loaded past 50% . I realize that the tegra is a horse of a different color, but isnt it still affected by the specific driver optimizations, hence the THD enhancements? Just out of curiosity as I very much trust your experience. I am still interested in trying it with definitive comparisons to follow...well about as definitive as synthetic benchmarks can be anyway.
I just saw that you have a new beta... Yay. I cant wait to give it a whirl.
I have been over locked for a little while. Max I have done is 1506 but it tends to be slightly unstable. I run 1400 now and haven't had any issues. biggest difference I notice is home screen transitions load fast and don't lag and programs load much quicker. there doesnt seem to be any games that will push the CPU hard so I don't notice much of a difference there.
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I have been over locked for a little while. Max I have done is 1506 but it tends to be slightly unstable. I run 1400 now and haven't had any issues. biggest difference I notice is home screen transitions load fast and don't lag and programs load much quicker. there doesnt seem to be any games that will push the CPU hard so I don't notice much of a difference there.
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I've had 1600mhz going strong with no instability, benchmark after benchmark, the only issue I've had is the device shutting down when left alone for too long, but I consider that a useful standard function. Otherwise 1600 performance has been rock solid. I decided to take it upon myself to take this girl apart' clean the CPU off, remove the thermal pad, and apply some as5....though the chip didnt really run very hot to begin with. Now until I have the option to go for 1800mhz, I'd like to see where the max threshold is for cpu/gpu oc.
I have mine overclocked also at 1600.. Runs very stable at this speed and benchmarks not too bad:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/20/device20110712225412.png/
I have had higher speeds, but very unstable...
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oc-ing the gpu doesnt get you anything... gpu is default 200mhz 2d with 300mhz in 3d and it can be uped to 250mhz 2d and 400mhz 3d but it cant be software controlled and it will eat more power...
and no oc-ing the cpu doesn't oc the gpu, its a separate part of the tegra2 processor
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Can only the 3D Clocks be altered without touching 2D? If yes can you make such a version of the ........... that "nobody" knows anything about?
Trinnity66 said:
I have mine overclocked also at 1600.. Runs very stable at this speed and benchmarks not too bad:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/20/device20110712225412.png/
I have had higher speeds, but very unstable...
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Very nice quadrant score man, I used to score alot higher until I updated to stock 3.1+ updates. It seems like the higher my OS version number gets, the lower my synthetic performance gets overall.
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I've had 1600mhz going strong with no instability, benchmark after benchmark, the only issue I've had is the device shutting down when left alone for too long, but I consider that a useful standard function. Otherwise 1600 performance has been rock solid. I decided to take it upon myself to take this girl apart' clean the CPU off, remove the thermal pad, and apply some as5....though the chip didnt really run very hot to begin with. Now until I have the option to go for 1800mhz, I'd like to see where the max threshold is for cpu/gpu oc.
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that's what mine did. it would reboot while sleeping. sometimes it would be 3 or 4 times in an hour.
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I have mine overclocked also at 1600.. Runs very stable at this speed and benchmarks not too bad:
I have had higher speeds, but very unstable...
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Wow!
Umm, what rom do you guys run for this? I'm on rooted and CWMd stock 3.1 rom. Can't find a OC kernel for it. Only one I can find is for ASUS based roms. I prefer to keep stock rom if it's possible.
ME: Asus A500 Iconia USA wifi only. HC 3.1
nexgenasian said:
Wow!
Umm, what rom do you guys run for this? I'm on rooted and CWMd stock 3.1 rom. Can't find a OC kernel for it. Only one I can find is for ASUS based roms. I prefer to keep stock rom if it's possible.
ME: Asus A500 Iconia USA wifi only. HC 3.1
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You should try richardtrip's kernel. His kernel is keep updating Very good performance and stability.
thats the kernel i am using o/c 1400 works very well. you can find it in the development thread.
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You should try richardtrip's kernel. His kernel is keep updating Very good performance and stability.
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Thanks! Works great. Do you feel the HoneyVillian rom runs faster with the v2.4 Kernel or about the same as stock Acer 3.1 HC rom with v2.4 Kernel?
So far I can keep stable at 1.5 after 2 hours of use. It's also slept for 30 mins and seems ok at that too.
Also what kind of Scaling do you guys use? Ondeman, Interactive? On my phone I use ondemand.
Hello everyone!
I've been looking on the web for some time now about the new HTC Titans CPU,
clocked at 1.5GHz, named as Scorpion MSM8255 (same as ours (DHDs CPU)).
What do you guys think about it? Since our MSM8255 can "officialy" only hit 1GHz,
but now HTCs new MSM8255 can get it to 1.5GHz?!
I've searched the wiki also and i cannot find any differences.
Oh wait, is it that T at the end maybe? Just found it now.
HTC Titan: MSM8255T
Okay, so anyone know more about this? Feel free to comment
It's the same chipset. HTC did the same on the Flyer. They just OCed the cpu to 1.5 GHz since the cpu can handle it without problems.
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How easy is it to actually oc the dhd cpu and is it really wise?
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A fellow Bristolian! Hi!
How easy? Very. 1.3GHz is achievable on the DHD with stock volts (1.1V). Wise? Yeah, anything up to around 1.2V is sensible, and safe is far beyond that.
To be honest, nobody will need to go past 1.3GHz, virtually all ROMs run smoothly at that clock.
Haha hey nice surprise lol
Oh sounds good. Pretty new to this only just rooted and flashed custom ROM the other day. Wasn't sure if I should OC or not tho. Guessing it's going to reduce an already poor battery life haha
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affinity121 said:
How easy is it to actually oc the dhd cpu and is it really wise?
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I've had mine at 2GHz. I clocked it down to 1,3GHz after 10 minutes since it got REALLY hot. But it managed to run just fine at that speed.
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Haha hey nice surprise lol
Oh sounds good. Pretty new to this only just rooted and flashed custom ROM the other day. Wasn't sure if I should OC or not tho. Guessing it's going to reduce an already poor battery life haha
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Well, all of the kernels undervolt as well. Almost all of them run the processor at 1.2GHz at stock voltage. So overclocking shouldn't shorten battery life. Also, remember that many of the ROMs have andrev or virtuous OC daemons installed, so they will be underclocked to minimum speed most of the time. So either way, battery life and performance will be improved.
As for overclocking to 2GHz, while it is possible, I'd very strongly suggest you don't do so.
But it does prove that firstly, the MSM8255 is very overclockable, unlike the larger processed chip in the Desire (which I think will really go as far as 1.2GHz only, correct me if I'm wrong...). The Flyer's processor is exactly the same, just selected (a process called binning) because it is "capable" of running at that speed at the required, and desired voltages with the required stability that the manufacturer (Qualcomm) wants.
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Well, all of the kernels undervolt as well. Almost all of them run the processor at 1.2GHz at stock voltage. So overclocking shouldn't shorten battery life. Also, remember that many of the ROMs have andrev or virtuous OC daemons installed, so they will be underclocked to minimum speed most of the time. So either way, battery life and performance will be improved.
As for overclocking to 2GHz, while it is possible, I'd very strongly suggest you don't do so.
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Thanks for the reply. I'm currently using rcmix runnymede ROM and its not oc'd. Would a OC of 1.3 be wise on stock voltages?
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1.3 might be pushing it. Mine needs 1.125V to be stable. I'd suggest that you probably do the same just in case, or even better 1.150.
The safest thing to do is take a look at the NCTeam kernel voltages, and use those (use IncrediControl from the Market to change voltages). They should work for virtually everybody. 1.3GHz is the speed I needed on Sense ROMs to be very smooth, you might find it is less though.
The desire hd doesnt actually overheat much @ 1.3ghz (I use that + Performance governor when playing some games), so the CPU can probably be overclocked quite alot without any problems
Other phones overheat quite a bit @ stock speeds...
Mine is set to 1,6GHz and it can handle 3d gaming for hours with the case only getting a bit warm. I wrote in a different thread that WP7 is getting an update and it will be able to run on DHD hardware. Maybe some devs will be interested in porting it to DHD then. It would be nice to dual boot Android and WP7. I can almost see all iPhone users faces.
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The desire hd doesnt actually overheat much @ 1.3ghz (I use that + Performance governor when playing some games), so the CPU can probably be overclocked quite alot without any problems
Other phones overheat quite a bit @ stock speeds...
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Just to make sure I was clear, I meant that 1.3GHz could be pushing it on stock voltage, not that it could be pushing the limits of the chipset for speed. I think everyone got that, and knows that, but was just making sure.
As for heat, my phone didn't even heat up at 1.3GHz. You can push very far with no problems.
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Mine is set to 1,6GHz and it can handle 3d gaming for hours with the case only getting a bit warm. I wrote in a different thread that WP7 is getting an update and it will be able to run on DHD hardware. Maybe some devs will be interested in porting it to DHD then. It would be nice to dual boot Android and WP7. I can almost see all iPhone users faces.
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Don't forget that we need a wp7 bootloader. The android one can't handle wp7. Furthermore we probably have to repartition our internal memory (or sdcard if you want to run it from there) since wp7 uses other partitions than android (not sure about that, but i guess we have to.)
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I would love to know how many people have hardware bricked their xplay through extreme Overclocking. You will hear many warnings about bricking your phone through OCing on the forums but I don't know of one person who has actually done it. I always feel a little uncomfortable when I OC my devicedue to the fear of hardware failure.
Ive been running mine overclocked to 1.5Ghz for about 24hrs now with no issue
Between 1.2 and 1.5 are the safe operating parameters for the Xperia Play. It differs from handset to handset though. Yours might be unstable at a lower overclock than mine for example.
Best thing to do if you plan on OCing is to try it in increments to find the limit for your Play. If it starts acting unstable at say, 1.5Ghz, then set it to the setting below that (1.4)
1,6 is save for me at 2,0 GhZ it stocked and i have to restart my phone^^
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It's like PC CPU overclocking. When you give it too high frequency, it may reboot. Here is potential hazard. If the phone don't turn off, it can burn your phone CPU. But there also (like on PC) many things, that may prevent crash.
You can always use the app Stability Test from Android Market to see which OC speed is best for your phone.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.into.stability&hl=en
1.9ghz with all governors and I/O settings work for me.
Once I select 2.0ghz the phone shuts off. I never changed voltage values. Perhaps a bump in voltage would get me to 2.0ghz?
I'm not so keen on taking such a risk anyway.
I do think not all Xperia Plays are created equally and consider myself lucky to reach 1.9ghz. The only time I overclock it that high is when I'm using N64oid or GTA3 to prevent occasional lag.
I think 1.6ghz is the sweetspot for most phones.
1.6 ghz smartass v2 all day everyday!
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It's interesting that not a single person has replied saying it has actually caused hardware failure, just instability and a reboot
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1.6 ghz smartass v2 all day everyday!
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Same here
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same here to runs sweet as a nut
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It's interesting that not a single person has replied saying it has actually caused hardware failure, just instability and a reboot
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Must be some kind of safety shutoff built in
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Must be some kind of safety shutoff built in
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One time that I overclocked mine at 1.9 GHz and let it run a stress test it froze after a while and didn't reboot until I removed the battery, but it didn't get damaged even though it got pretty hot. Weird...
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I've burnt out a CPU in my laptop before, so I don't and won't over clock.
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I've burnt out a CPU in my laptop before, so I don't and won't over clock.
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I find it funny that you make kernels that allow overclocking but don't overclock your phone
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leots said:
I find it funny that you make kernels that allow overclocking but don't overclock your phone
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Not really?
That's like saying its funny how people go to war but don't shoot themselves
No, I put OC in the kernels as I understand people use over locking. However, I don't offer any higher that 1.6GHz as higher than that dramatically reduces the lifespan of the device.
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Same here
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I have cooked a few graphics cards in my time so never push my play more than 1.6 ghz I dont want this badboy to break in any way
I have to use 1.6 using doomkernal with smartass. If I go any higher then that, Dolphin Mini won't load properly :/
So who has run their phone at 1.4ghz or above for say a year or more?
My PC has been running an OC of about 30% for about 2 years. I know it will shorten the lifespan of my hardware, but who will keep a PC for 10 years anyway. It will be a dinosaur by then.
If I get 2 years from my phone that is enough
I don't see the point of overclocking all the time... for battery saving if nothing else...(?) Maybe the preinstalled R800i UK stock ROM is better and less bloated than what some people get, but 1GHz with the Snapdragon is fine for general use... web browsing, Shadowgun, Asphalt 6, FIFA, Riptide ... all ran well when I wasn't even rooted. Those games are sold for our phones anyway...
But 1.7GHz is definitely over the limit for me as well. Freeze / reboot after a few minutes.
Since Im using DoomKernel my phone is allways overclocked and i have no problems
For daily usage im using MAX 1,3 / MIN 1,0 and GOUV: Smartassv2 or Powersave.
Only for Quadrant tests sometimes i really set it to 1,8 GHZ