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I want hero/g2 touch

I want hero/g2 touch, i am a us t-mobile customer (nyc) where can i get an for how much? Should i buy from another country an will it work here? If i buy the sprint one an unlock it will i be able to use ti i dunno what to do i just want the phone somebody how to obtain it an get it working with my t-mobile account also tell me the price....PLZ AND THANK YOU

Anybody wanna help me?

djunio over at Android Community forums posted this today - might help
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f8/us-hero-99-a-26204/

hey vonne thats cool but i never heard of them are they a wireless company? i much rather buy an unlock or do some of the things i said in the original message

you can buy unlocked phones off ebay. i sell some there. if you buy the Sprint I don't think it will work on Tmobile even if you unlock it because Sprint uses CDMA and Tmobile is GSM. If you buy an unlocked GSM phone it should work on Tmobile. I had a different unlocked GSM phone while i was in the US this summer and it worked fine.

ok csasek but im talking bout the hero/ G2 touch not any other phone i jus want that one there so many smart people that hav info on this phone an none can help me?

the only place you can get it unlocked is on ebay for about $550, and yes it will work in the US...any other specific questions

You are aware that the G2 Touch will not work with 3G in the US? If you buy one, you will be restricted to EDGE at best. As has been already stated, the Sprint Hero can never work with T-Mobile US at all.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
You are aware that the G2 Touch will not work with 3G in the US? If you buy one, you will be restricted to EDGE at best. As has been already stated, the Sprint Hero can never work with T-Mobile US at all.
Regards,
Dave
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why doesn't the Hero work with US 3G? what frequencies/technology do ATT & Tmobile us for 3G? I thought that Tmobile was using WCDMA/ HSDPA which should be compatible and that ATT uses HSDPA too.
I honestly don't know what all these things mean so if you could provide some insight I would really appreciate it. Since I sell these on ebay I like to be able to answer these types of questions.

I thought that Tmobile was using WCDMA/ HSDPA which should be compatible and that ATT uses HSDPA too.
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Yes they do, but the important thing here is that these services can be offered over several different frequencies.
The "worldwide" Hero (as opposed to the Sprint one) only supports 3G (HSPA/WCDMA) at 900Mhz and 2100Mhz.
http://www.htc.com/www/product/hero/specification.html
T-Mobile US's 3G network runs at 1700MHz, and ATT's 3G at 1900MHz. Neither of these 3G bands are supported by the radio in the GSM Hero, so you are stuck with 2G/EDGE speeds.
Regards,
Dave

Thank you very much for the explanation

im sure there is a radio update in the development section somewhere???
this would alow US users to have 3G but they would require root in order to flash the new radio

There is no radio ROM update at present which will make US 3G bands available, and there is no evidence as yet that this is a ROM and not a hardware restriction.
If I were interested in pursuing this further, I'd probably enquire in the Magic forums if it possible to flash a MyTouch 3G radio onto a European Magic to get 3G working with T-Mobile US.
Regards,
Dave

So what phone should i get? the out of staste on with chin? or the sprint one? dont care for looks cuz im ok with both jus sayin most price efficient and easier to unlock

So what phone should i get? the out of staste on with chin? or the sprint one? dont care for looks cuz im ok with both jus sayin most price efficient and easier to unlock

HTC Hero130 (Telus Version)

First off - I Private Messaged a couple of people about this, but realized that I should have just posted this in the forum. So, my apologies for anyone seeing this a second time.
I've been getting all sort of conflicting information about the Hero 130 (The Telus one) and which UMTS bands it supports.
Most of the information I see at places like PDADB says that it's UMTS enabled for 850/1900 only, which are the North American bands. FCC reports and the Telus user manual show testing for WCDMA (UMTS) 850/1900 only.
However, HTC's Canada Hero website (http://www.htc.com/ca/product/herotelus/specification.html) says "Dual Mode UMTS" and lists frequencies for US (850/1900), EU/Asia (900/2100) and Telstra (850/2100). Two HTC support techs from their website also confirm that the Hero 130 supports UMTS for US EU/Asia and Telstra, but it feels like they are just regurgitating information from the extremely vague website.
The device is a quad-band worldwide device. These are the bands the device is capable of using:
Europe/Asia
UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA (900/2100MHz for EU/Asia)
North America
850/1900
Telestra
850/2100
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (Quad-band 850/900/1800/1900Mhz)
If the bands you are needing are any of these then the device should work.
Kay
HTC Technical Support
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Has anyone with a HERO130 actually gone overseas and seen if you get UMTS/3G to work overseas - or has seen anything that conclusively and definitively proves if it does or does not work?
Thanks!

I'm wondering the same thing. I'd like to get the Telus one and use it here on AT&T 3g in the states... anyone know if that is possible?

The Telus version of the HTC Hero (aka HERO130 or A6265) definitely supports ATT's 3G bands. It's been confirmed via the FCC documentation as well that 850/2100 is supported. T-Mobile's 1700MHz is not supported.
My question is specifically in regards to the European/Asian (900/1900MHz) bands. HTC's confirmed that it does support by phone, but I'm still a little dubious. However, I'm ordering one and am going to give it a test!
Stay Tuned!

itpromike said:
I'm wondering the same thing. I'd like to get the Telus one and use it here on AT&T 3g in the states... anyone know if that is possible?
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Yes. It is possible. I've got the Telus Hero, unlocked and running on the Rogers network. HSDPA/3G works fine on Rogers. North American radio bands for 3G are supported with this hardware.

BlueHawk said:
Yes. It is possible. I've got the Telus Hero, unlocked and running on the Rogers network. HSDPA/3G works fine on Rogers. North American radio bands for 3G are supported with this hardware.
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Awesome! How difficult is the unlocking process?

I just thought about something. I'm used to the iPhone where you have to root your phone to unlock it for other carriers. Is the way it work with the HTC Hero and the like is that you just pay full price for the phone ($499) and it comes unlocked already? No tinkering needed?

itpromike said:
Awesome! How difficult is the unlocking process?
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The unlocking process is not painful at all, but it costs you $20-25. When you insert a non-Telus sim into the device and power it up, it will tell you that you are using the wrong sim and ask you to enter the unlock code. The unlock code is specific to the IMEI of you phone, so they can't be shared. They can be purchased on eBay for slightly more than $20.
Note that you cannot unlock your phone by flashing a custom ROM. So unless you figured out the magic formula for generating these unlocking code (different for each device and different for each carrier), you have to pay for it one way or another.

tsekh501 said:
The unlocking process is not painful at all, but it costs you $20-25. When you insert a non-Telus sim into the device and power it up, it will tell you that you are using the wrong sim and ask you to enter the unlock code. The unlock code is specific to the IMEI of you phone, so they can't be shared. They can be purchased on eBay for slightly more than $20.
Note that you cannot unlock your phone by flashing a custom ROM. So unless you figured out the magic formula for generating these unlocking code (different for each device and different for each carrier), you have to pay for it one way or another.
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So I buy the full priced ($499) phone from Telus, then I have to buy the unlock code from Ebay? Hmm... I feel leery about buying something like this from Ebay. Is there an official channel I can buy an unlock code from?

itpromike said:
So I buy the full priced ($499) phone from Telus, then I have to buy the unlock code from Ebay? Hmm... I feel leery about buying something like this from Ebay. Is there an official channel I can buy an unlock code from?
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I paid mine for the full price too, but this doesn't make the phone automatically unlocked. Telus enters an exclusive contract with HTC to be the sole carrier of this phone in Canada (at least for now), and they have every right to make sure that an average-joe, who knows nothing about unlocking, who wants this phone have to go to them, with or without contract. Exclusive dealings are extremely common in cell phone industry, and they are not free for the carrier.
I doubt Telus would unlock the phone for you. In the US, T-Mobile will unlock their phones for you a few months into the 2-year contract, may be Telus will do the same, if you signed a contract with them that is.
I just went to eBay and notice that there are now many sellers selling Telus Hero unlock code, and some are selling for as low as $13. I bought mine from a seller called cellfservices, it is not the cheapest but it worked (and it took them about an hour after the sales to send me the code).

mobileincanada.ca seems to be one that is very popular for unlocking, $20cdn, and they usually send unlock code very fast (within 5 minutes)

all right people.
I am here to bust the myth.
Telus hero does not have asian HSPA band.
I have two heros: GSM and Telus.
Tested location: Taiwan.
Telus hero with Taiwan sim card = GPRS only, no 3G connection.
GSM hero = 3G connection.
Telus hero does not have dual model 3G, period.

So which do I get for AT&T
Ok so I'd like one of these WITH 3G connection on AT&T so which one would I get to make this happen? I'm leaning toward the Telus model from what I've been reading but if anyone can confirm or deny this, that would be great. Also once I have it and it's been unlocked, then what do I tell AT&T? Just order a second line with a data plan? Won't they ask me what type of phone is this for or how should I do this?

itpromike said:
Ok so I'd like one of these WITH 3G connection on AT&T so which one would I get to make this happen? I'm leaning toward the Telus model from what I've been reading but if anyone can confirm or deny this, that would be great. Also once I have it and it's been unlocked, then what do I tell AT&T? Just order a second line with a data plan? Won't they ask me what type of phone is this for or how should I do this?
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The Telus Hero is the only current Hero model that will work with 3G/HSDPA in North America. The European Hero will only use Edge for Data - it doesn't support the North American radio bands. The Sprint model only supports CDMA.
Do you need a second line? Are you planning to run two cell phones? If not, just switch your current AT&T SIM into the Hero and get a data plan for that SIM/line.

I do plan on running a second line yes. I have an iPhone 3GS as my main phone and I am planning on using the Hero to play around with as my second phone. The hero is a decent phone and fun to flash and play around with etc... but I couldn't ever really use it as my main phone. I definitely couldn't give up my iPhone 3GS for an Android phone just yet there are still some refinements that Android as a mobile OS needs to undergo and still some refinements that HTC needs to bring to the SenseUI as well. I rely too heavily my phone and it doing what I need it to do as fast as possible. I did have the Sprint Hero for a month before I took it back, I just didn't like it... it was slow, laggy, and some of the things I wanted to do with the phone that I was just so used to doing on my iPhone either couldn't be done OR had to be done in a way that didn't make very much logical or design sense. I had a lot of those 'why can't I just press this to make it do that?' moments or 'why the heck would they put this menu under here?' moments. Anyhow with that being said, Hero and Android are still fun platforms to play with and flash and try different settings and home screens and different ROMS etc so I'm going to get another one but this time on AT&T so I can use voice and data at the same time (one of the things I hated about having the Hero on spring was the inability to use data and voice at the same time as well as how slow sprints data was compared to AT&T)... but I wouldn't want a phone that I flashed and played around with so much to be a phone I relied on for mission critical work.
So what's the best way of going about this? What type of line should I order from AT&T? What should I ask for when i call or go into the store to get another line? Any suggestions?

I just got my Telus Hero last week, and coming from a 3G iphone, this blows it away. Not sure about the 3GS as it is a faster processor..... Also better than the Tilt 2. Love it. Just waiting on Eclair to get Google Navigation and other goodies...

Broken said:
I just got my Telus Hero last week, and coming from a 3G iphone, this blows it away. Not sure about the 3GS as it is a faster processor..... Also better than the Tilt 2. Love it. Just waiting on Eclair to get Google Navigation and other goodies...
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Yeah the iPhone 3G (I have both a 3G and 3Gs) and the Hero are pretty comparable. Browsing the web (which I do a lot) is faster on the 3G but the loading of applications etc... are pretty much the same. This is stock to stock so no modding on either phone. The scrolling on the 3G is much smoother than a stock Hero. I know that there are ROMS that make the device faster which is the only reason I'm even rethinking about getting one. The 3GS however is just no contest. But I've pretty much had all the fun I can out of the iPhone; not talking about the the apps as there are so many apps to choose from and a lot of them are awesome and fun to use, but with modding the phone itself and playing around with the OS etc I've done all I can do with the iPhone and want something new to play with...

itpromike said:
So what's the best way of going about this? What type of line should I order from AT&T? What should I ask for when i call or go into the store to get another line? Any suggestions?
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Just tell them you have an existing phone so you want a new SIM and to purchase a plan for a smartphone (data and voice plan) - they can advise you on deals and packages then. The carrier should never care about the phone - it's not like they make money on it - they usually subsidize the manufacturer for a unit anyway, in a profit sharing deal. The only thing the carrier is really interested in is the data and voice carriage charges.

i would just tell them you want to add a line for regular phone with unlimited data. that way you dont have to pay extra for the smart phone data. unless of course its cheaper and you can just for like ten dollars make your smart phone data plan you have now a family unlimited

BlueHawk said:
Just tell them you have an existing phone so you want a new SIM and to purchase a plan for a smartphone (data and voice plan) - they can advise you on deals and packages then. The carrier should never care about the phone - it's not like they make money on it - they usually subsidize the manufacturer for a unit anyway, in a profit sharing deal. The only thing the carrier is really interested in is the data and voice carriage charges.
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That would not be the best option. If you are going to add a line, figure out which phone they are giving away for free they you can get the biggest profit by flipping on eBay. Most likely the Solstice.
This way you can get away with the cheaper non-smart phone data plan and get about $200 back by selling the "free" phone they give you.

Can anyone confirm if the telus hero ships with the updated faster firmware? Thanks.

HD2 Tmobile US Sim unlock?

Can someone tell me how to unlock the Tmobile US version of the HD2? I would like to use it on At&t in the US.
Thanks!!

This phone has been released?

No, but I was able to buy an early version off craigslist

hanya said:
No, but I was able to buy an early version off craigslist
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Very Interesting

It's an awesome device, too bad mine didn't come with the microSD card that has all the T-mobile games and goodies..
also, the camera doesn't seem to work..not sure why. i was told that the device i have was a test unit that tmo used to test the rom w/their network..etc.

hanya said:
Can someone tell me how to unlock the Tmobile US version of the HD2? I would like to use it on At&t in the US.
Thanks!!
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I used leo.unlock-now.com to unlock my device that was locked to T-Mobile UK and they have T-Mobile US on the website. It's quick too. took less than 30mins for my code to arrive.

hanya said:
No, but I was able to buy an early version off craigslist
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You understand that it won't get 3G on at&t?

Some unboxing pictures of T-Mobile US HD2:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/03/09/t-mobile-htc-hd2-unboxing/

hanya said:
No, but I was able to buy an early version off craigslist
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you sure that's the US version? not the Euro one? How much ROM it got?

no 3G on AT&T question
MidnightDraven said:
You understand that it won't get 3G on at&t?
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Can someone explain to me, or point me to a thread, why a US T-Mo phone would not be compatible with AT&T's 3G? I am thinking about buying a HD2 and taking it to AT&T because I have no T-Mo coverage at work. But tethering and data rates are critical to me.
Thanks

Because TMo decided to be clever and chose a spectrum for their 3G service completely apart from everyone else (save for Wind Mobile in Canada.)
You'd get EDGE at best.

akhnaten said:
Can someone explain to me, or point me to a thread, why a US T-Mo phone would not be compatible with AT&T's 3G? I am thinking about buying a HD2 and taking it to AT&T because I have no T-Mo coverage at work. But tethering and data rates are critical to me.
Thanks
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T-mo uses different bands than at&t for 3g. You would only get edge speeds on at&t with a t-mo us hd2. If you get the australian telstra HD2, you can get 3g with at&t.

hanya said:
Can someone tell me how to unlock the Tmobile US version of the HD2? I would like to use it on At&t in the US.
Thanks!!
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I don't understand how you were able to buy a TMO version of the HD2 from craigslist when the phone hasn't even been released to the stores. More than likely you bought a foreign HD2 that has been unlocked for use on any GSM carrier.
Like other threads have stated, TMO and ATT 3G use different frequencies. IF it is a TMO HD2 you won't be able to use ATT 3G and vice versa. Also, this phone being a foreign HD2 (more than likely), you won't be able to use 3G on TMO. Though, maybe on ATT.
Anyway, I digress, in order to unlock the phone for use across GSM carriers, you have to obtain the unlock code either from HTC or TMO (or ATT) and need a "foreign" SIM card to input the unlock code. The unlock is based on the IMEI of your particular phone and thus is unique to each phone.

zarathustrax said:
T-mo uses different bands than at&t for 3g. You would only get edge speeds on at&t with a t-mo us hd2. If you get the australian telstra HD2, you can get 3g with at&t.
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Sweet, I will check out that route.
Thanks

when hd2 release from tmobile I will get one without contract.I have 5.99 data plan so far.my question is the hd2 can use that data plan what I have??!

paullu said:
when hd2 release from tmobile I will get one without contract.I have 5.99 data plan so far.my question is the hd2 can use that data plan what I have??!
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Of course, HD2 is just another wm6x phone.

akhnaten said:
Can someone explain to me, or point me to a thread, why a US T-Mo phone would not be compatible with AT&T's 3G? I am thinking about buying a HD2 and taking it to AT&T because I have no T-Mo coverage at work. But tethering and data rates are critical to me.
Thanks
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at&t uses different 3g frequency

HD2
TMONEWS.COM is saying it will release the 24th of this month.
I have been a t-mo customer for like 8 years so I called them last night and after some beating around the bush the rep verified the 24th (they are not supposed to leak anything on this phone until it drops) He also said it will be $449 buying outright or $180 for existing customer and a 2 yr extension.
Once I got this guy talking (which took a while) he really began spilling the beans so I am pretty pleased with the info I received.
I'll be standing at the T-Mo door at 9am on the 24th to get this beast.
Even the T-Mo rep compared it to several other models (Nexus one and others) and he said it's a beast and gonna give the iphone some stiff competition.

skim56732 said:
I don't understand how you were able to buy a TMO version of the HD2 from craigslist when the phone hasn't even been released to the stores. More than likely you bought a foreign HD2 that has been unlocked for use on any GSM carrier.
Like other threads have stated, TMO and ATT 3G use different frequencies. IF it is a TMO HD2 you won't be able to use ATT 3G and vice versa. Also, this phone being a foreign HD2 (more than likely), you won't be able to use 3G on TMO. Though, maybe on ATT.
Anyway, I digress, in order to unlock the phone for use across GSM carriers, you have to obtain the unlock code either from HTC or TMO (or ATT) and need a "foreign" SIM card to input the unlock code. The unlock is based on the IMEI of your particular phone and thus is unique to each phone.
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What does that mean?
I was planning on buying from tmobile, but now I need to get a foreign SIM card too?

Pics or this didn't happen.

[Q] HTC HD2 T-Mobile US - are they all the same?

I own HTC HD2 from Europe. It has only 512Mb of flashable memory. I want to buy a T-Mobile HD2 from ebay. But when I was reading descriptions, some phone's ids were HTC Touch Pro. And I have seen a whole few of those at ebay. Does it mean that the sellers didn't know better, or that under the name HD2 could be a couple of family lines? Also, some description said that the camera was 3mp.
So, my worry is that trying to buy a T-Mobile HTC HD2 with 1Gb internal memory, I might end up with something different than the original T-Mobile HTC HD2.
Or maybe I am just dealing with sellers who don't know much about phones, and I don't need to worry?

elgar said:
I own HTC HD2 from Europe. It has only 512Mb of flashable memory. I want to buy a T-Mobile HD2 from ebay. But when I was reading descriptions, some phone's ids were HTC Touch Pro. And I have seen a whole few of those at ebay. Does it mean that the sellers didn't know better, or that under the name HD2 could be a couple of family lines? Also, some description said that the camera was 3mp.
So, my worry is that trying to buy a T-Mobile HTC HD2 with 1Gb internal memory, I might end up with something different than the original T-Mobile HTC HD2.
Or maybe I am just dealing with sellers who don't know much about phones, and I don't need to worry?
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Be careful you don't end up with a different phone all together..
Tmobile US HD2 has the same specs as the Europe one except for the Nand Space like you said...
Only one model US HD2
5MP
4.3"
Tmobile AWS (3G) etc...
The touch pro is a model before the hd2 so stick with items that have htc HD2 and the pictures (better to see the actual item before buying)

Thank you very much!

hakuchi18v said:
Be careful you don't end up with a different phone all together..
Tmobile US HD2 has the same specs as the Europe one except for the Nand Space like you said...
Only one model US HD2
5MP
4.3"
Tmobile AWS (3G) etc...
The touch pro is a model before the hd2 so stick with items that have htc HD2 and the pictures (better to see the actual item before buying)
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plus one .

hakuchi18v said:
Be careful you don't end up with a different phone all together..
Tmobile US HD2 has the same specs as the Europe one except for the Nand Space like you said...
Only one model US HD2
5MP
4.3"
Tmobile AWS (3G) etc...
The touch pro is a model before the hd2 so stick with items that have htc HD2 and the pictures (better to see the actual item before buying)
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Plus one also

I am in Canada, on the Bell network. I know there are some differences between US and Canada because of different networks. Which model would I look for, to get an unlocked HD2? Thanks.

also make sure you're not getting a Chinese knock off.

robearg said:
I am in Canada, on the Bell network. I know there are some differences between US and Canada because of different networks. Which model would I look for, to get an unlocked HD2? Thanks.
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I believe you'd be better off with the telstra (Aussie network) version...
This would allow you to use 3g on Rogers... but I'm not sure about bell. They may use different bands.
I'm not 100% on the details but do a search on telstra hd2 Canada etc etc and you'll get some more reliable info...
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face......

It'll work on the Bell network as well, as Bell/Rogers/Telus all use the same bands ( though Bell/Telus and Rogers have different networks).
Just make sure you're getting the Telstra 9193 model.

[Q] Should I Buy a GSM Phone?

I've been with Sprint for years and have never used a non-CDMA device. I don't want to leave Sprint, but Sprint network coverage isn't the greatest and non-existence outside of the US. Should I purchase a GSM phone as a backup for when I travel to areas I know not covered by Sprint? I'm thinking I should be able to go to a GSM provider and get some type of short-term plan, like a week or month plan. Is that naive?
I'm sure the device has something to do with it, too. What is a best device out there to give me the most flexible support from major GSM providers? I supposed one that at least support voice and SMS, but data for GPS would be good.

Yes it wouldn't hurt you could buy an unlocked gsm phone and just use pre pay sim cards with it! I sell verizon and thats what I usually recommend that to any customers that are traveling outside the country but it applies to everywhere

Unlocked GSM Phone, got it. I just need to find one that supports multi-GSM frequencies. Suggestions? Nexus One?
Prepaid SIM card, now that I'm not familiar with. Is it tied to a particular provider, such as T-mobile, O2, etc. or frequency(ies)?

werkx said:
Unlocked GSM Phone, got it. I just need to find one that supports multi-GSM frequencies. Suggestions? Nexus One?
Prepaid SIM card, now that I'm not familiar with. Is it tied to a particular provider, such as T-mobile, O2, etc. or frequency(ies)?
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All Sprint World phones are GSM capable and come unlocked. The one that comes to mind that is blocked from working in the US is the Photon, but Blackberries should work fine.

You could get a phone with both a GSM and CDMA radio. The best phone I can think of is the Motorola Droid 2 Global, which is a good phone if you like slide-out QWERTY smartphones. It's also quite cheap coming in at $320 for a brand new unlocked version.

Thelolinator said:
You could get a phone with both a GSM and CDMA radio. The best phone I can think of is the Motorola Droid 2 Global, which is a good phone if you like slide-out QWERTY smartphones. It's also quite cheap coming in at $320 for a brand new unlocked version.
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No because Verizon prevents the GSM radio in Droid phones from working in the US. Blackberries work though. It might be a Motorola thing, I'm not sure about the Droid Incredible 2 (HTC).

Product F(RED) said:
No because Verizon prevents the GSM radio in Droid phones from working in the US. Blackberries work though. It might be a Motorola thing, I'm not sure about the Droid Incredible 2 (HTC).
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Oh I see, that sucks! I guess no-one has bypassed it yet then.

So this would be a reason to get a BB.
Thanks all. Craigslist, here I come.