Sorry if this is common knowledge and I'm just sllloooowww....but I have discovered something with my EVO that was driving me nuts!
When you connect to a WiFi network the phone will automatically drop your other data connections (3G or 4G). If you are connected to WiFi and turn on 4G the phone will not connect to 4G and instead will show a status similar to this:
turning on->scanning->disconnected
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turning on->scanning->connecting to spring ->getting IP address -> connected ->disconnected
All of this was quite irritating when I was assuming that my 4G wasn't working properly. It was pretty embarrassing to learn (through many trials and errors) that I hadn't correctly associated the 4G connection 'issues' with the presence of a WiFi connection.
Hopefully some of you who are experiencing 4G 'issues' are just suffering from this same ignorance.
P.S Please don't take this as an opportunity to rip on myself or others for being ignorant, thank you.
Thank you for taking the time to right this up. I would have thought this to be common knowledge, but I can see how the cycling of 4g connect disconnect could be confusing.
It will always drop the current connection if you switch it, doesn't matter which carrier you're on. reason you can't connect to 4g (aka WiMax) while on wifi is because they are using the same frequency 802.11. the only difference is that wimax is on 802.11E where as the wifi on the evo can go 802.11B,G,N
ilikepu said:
It will always drop the current connection if you switch it, doesn't matter which carrier you're on. reason you can't connect to 4g (aka WiMax) while on wifi is because they are using the same frequency 802.11. the only difference is that wimax is on 802.11E where as the wifi on the evo can go 802.11B,G,N
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Wimax uses the 802.16 protocol which is seperate completely from wifi.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiMAX
I'm not sure why they are disabled when wifi is on but my guess is to conserve battery or avoid confusion with data connectivity such as flipping back and forth between radios. Who knows why heh
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whoops my mistake i read/wrote it wrong
Conservation is Key
slater! said:
I'm not sure why they are disabled when wifi is on but my guess is to conserve battery or avoid confusion with data connectivity such as flipping back and forth between radios. Who knows why heh
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Heh, well once I realized what it was doing it became pretty obvious why they were doing it.
There's no need to keep more than one data connection up on the phone, and obviously the less data that flows over sprint's (or any carrier) airwaves the better for them. When WiFi is connected, it makes sense for the phone to shut down the cellular data to reduce network load. Also, I am not positive about 3G vs. WiFi but I am pretty sure WiFi uses considerably less power than WiMax, so it makes sense from a battery conservation perspective too.
This is actually a common practice on smart phones it seems. I confirmed with my brother that this same thing happens on his Moto Droid with Verizon (when WiFi connects, 3G disconnects).
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Heh, well once I realized what it was doing it became pretty obvious why they were doing it.
There's no need to keep more than one data connection up on the phone, and obviously the less data that flows over sprint's (or any carrier) airwaves the better for them. When WiFi is connected, it makes sense for the phone to shut down the cellular data to reduce network load. Also, I am not positive about 3G vs. WiFi but I am pretty sure WiFi uses considerably less power than WiMax, so it makes sense from a battery conservation perspective too.
This is actually a common practice on smart phones it seems. I confirmed with my brother that this same thing happens on his Moto Droid with Verizon (when WiFi connects, 3G disconnects).
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It has more to do with conserving battery life than taking a load off of Sprint's network. BTW, WiFi tends to use a lot less battery than 3G.
Does an unlocked 4g phone work in Italy(on 3g at least)? Wath the difference between protocols(wikipedia is not clear enough)?
lennynero7 said:
Does an unlocked 4g phone work in Italy(on 3g at least)? Wath the difference between protocols(wikipedia is not clear enough)?
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You might want to check this:
http://www.ehow.com/how_7675053_tell-cell-phone-work-worldwide.html
Does not provide too much info as far as carriers, but does explain how it works outside of U.S.
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Not sure if this is a bug or not, but i wanted to get input from other 4G users who have the EVO.
I just can't seem to keep the 4G network connection to actually stay connected to the network.
I live in the San Jose Area, in my house i get full bar of 4G coverage.
It connects just fine, stays connected for 30sec and then disconnects and entering an endless reconnect loop.
It will only stay connected if i actually open up an application that constantly consumes data (like watching a video or listening to internet radio). As soon as i close this application the reconnect loop returns. needless to say it kills the battery.
Initially i thought it was the tower that i am connecting to, so i drove Palo Alto which also have 4G and the same thing happens there.
Either there is a serious bug in with EVO or the network is kicking my device off.
How is your experience with 4G? will it stay connected with good signal even if you are not going anything on the device?
I hope that doesn't become a common problem like a lot of people's problems with the Nexus One being unable to maintain a 3G signal.
Wish I had 4g in my area to test. Loving the sprint 3g vs t-mobile 3g.
To the OP - the network you are on is labeled as Sprint, but it is in fact Clear's "developer Innovation test network". Read more about it on Clear's site. This is basically a TEST network, with not full deployment - so building penetration will not be as good as it could be. Keep in mind also that 4G has a high spectrum and high spectrums have never been good at building penetration.
So, basically - this is not the full network we'll see at 4G launch in the Bay Area. This is just a test network. Don't think too highly of it. Hope this helps.
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To the OP - the network you are on is labeled as Sprint, but it is in fact Clear's "developer Innovation test network". Read more about it on Clear's site. This is basically a TEST network, with not full deployment - so building penetration will not be as good as it could be. Keep in mind also that 4G has a high spectrum and high spectrums have never been good at building penetration.
So, basically - this is not the full network we'll see at 4G launch in the Bay Area. This is just a test network. Don't think too highly of it. Hope this helps.
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This indeed crossed my mind. Even though i do get full bar of 4G at my house.
This is why i wanted to know if EVO owners in other locations (outside the Bay Area) are having the same issue.
This is a two part problem I believe. A) WiMax is a very young technology. As it gets older it will get better. Bank on that. B) I read somewhere that this Google I/O software has a bug in the 4g software that will keep disconnecting when not on a constant downstream of data. It will keep disconnecting and reconnecting. Basically, once this bug is fixed and WiMax gets older we should be fine.
Ghetto idea, turn on the wifi hotspot and see if that hold the connection open.
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Ghetto idea, turn on the wifi hotspot and see if that hold the connection open.
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Tried that. it wil stay connected if the laptop connected to the hotspot is pulling data. otherwise - reconnect loop.
I had been having problems getting 4G at home and just noticed that if I turn off WiFi, 4G pops right up and as soon as I re-enable WiFi (which connects to my home network) 4G disconnects. Has anyone seen this behavior? When you think about it, it makes perfect sense, and since both are enabled to connect when the other one isn't, the flip-flop is automatic. But it surprised me.
its probably because sprints 4G is based on WIFI. or it just cuts off 4G cus you dont need it anymore
I believe it works the same way as WiFi and EVDO works on older phones. When you turn on WiFi it will use that as your data connection instead of EVDO regardless if it is a crappy WiFi connection.
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Yeah, it's actually pretty cool, but if you don't know about it, it gets frustrating. I called Sprint customer service and he had me go through the battery out/in routine and go outside and try, etc. So maybe they don't know about it either!
But it makes sense for Sprint, since their data plan is unlimited and they want to avoid network overloading (are you listening AT&T? LOL). The only thing you miss on WiFi are location-based sevices that rely on GPS (navigation, some weather products, etc.).
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its probably because sprints 4G is based on WIFI. or it just cuts off 4G cus you dont need it anymore
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WiFi and 802.16e aren't all that similar. LOTS of differences between the protocols.
Maybe there's some isolation problems on your device as Sprint is using their 2.5 GHz spectrum holdings for their 4G network.
4g network and 3g network both will shut off when enabling wifi. Why have 2 forms of data going at the same time? Its not gunna use both to double your speeds.
You wont lose any GPS features. Turn on wifi and load up Google Maps, it will find your location exact.
When making calls and sending text it uses 1x so you will still receive everything except for MMS. Maybe they fixed it to where you can receive them even when on wifi with the Evo, not 100% sure.
4g and WiFi are both data only connections. You don't need two data connections simultaneously so it is smart enough to auto disable one to save battery. It would also cause routing problems.
Every phone does this LOL When you switch on Wifi they turn off 2g,3g,4g etc because you can't use 2 data connections at the same time.
I'm curious why you would want 4g and wifi on at the same time?
I thought this was pretty common knowledge (on any Android phone)... And I also thought it was done for battery conservation reasons as much as anything else. WiFi's a simpler point to point connection and from what I understand it sucks less power than 3G or 4G which is constantly checking for additional cell towers in case you've moved, etc.
If you're at home or at work w/a stable WiFi connection you should be able to preserve more battery power by using it, within the settings you can even set it so the phone doesn't revert to 3G when it goes to sleep (the default setting IIRC), otherwise it does this and only jumps back to WiFi when you wake it ('till you're out of range anyway).
I agree with all the comments. And if the Sprint Customer Service guys had said, "Hey, you idiot...it's supposed to do that," then I wouldn't have posted. But the fact that he was as stumped as I was prompted me to post (we all know that Sprint gets all it's info from reading these forums...LOL).
My phone is fighting to find reception all day, and it does a number on my battery. Is there a way i can force the phone to not go on hspa and just use 3g, or 2g or whatever? Dont need internet access at work, just calls. thanks
Settings>wireless n networks>mobile network>use only 2g networks
Thats what u need
Singhman said:
My phone is fighting to find reception all day, and it does a number on my battery. Is there a way i can force the phone to not go on hspa and just use 3g, or 2g or whatever? Dont need internet access at work, just calls. thanks
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This phone is only capable of 3g not HSPA+ however, we can go up to the threshold of 7.2. You can only turn off the 3g and will only get edge from the comment above.
98classic said:
Settings>wireless n networks>mobile network>use only 2g networks
Thats what u need
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My phone does not have that option. I think Bell is different
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This phone is only capable of 3g not HSPA+ however, we can go up to the threshold of 7.2. You can only turn off the 3g and will only get edge from the comment above.
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The OP's thread title says that he's in Canada and using Bell Mobility not T-Mobile.
http://www.simplymobile.com/wireless/data-device-details.asp?PhoneID=1230 says that it does indeed support HSPA.
And HSPA != HSPA+ (I believe.. would make sense since theres two difference names to it)
@Singhman: 98classic said it wrong. It's in Settings -> Wireless & Networks -> Mobile Network -> Use Only 2G Networks
Singhman said:
My phone is fighting to find reception all day, and it does a number on my battery. Is there a way i can force the phone to not go on hspa and just use 3g, or 2g or whatever? Dont need internet access at work, just calls. thanks
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The OP's thread title says that he's in Canada and using Bell Mobility not T-Mobile.
http://www.simplymobile.com/wireless/data-device-details.asp?PhoneID=1230 says that it does indeed support HSPA.
And HSPA != HSPA+ (I believe.. would make sense since theres two difference names to it)
@Singhman: 98classic said it wrong. It's in Settings -> Wireless & Networks -> Mobile Network -> Use Only 2G Networks
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Im pretty sure i read his post correctly he only wants to use 2g and 3g.... however with most people confusing HSPA and HSPA+ i just guessed he was referring to HSPA+
bell mobility's network does not work on edge (2g). it is a 3g network only. the bell version of the phone shows the option to use 2g, but people using a bell sim can only use 3g.
i have the phone unlocked and on the rogers network and while my phone will switch to 2g when rf is very low, i cannot manually set it to lock to 2g with the stock rom. i have flashed to the jm6 rom and this one gives me the option to switch to 2g and lock it in, but i have issues trying to manually switch back to 3g when i do this.
if you are in an office with poor rf strength, try leaving wifi on so that your data connection will not have to work as hard to maintain a connection. thats what i do when i get home and i find it eats less battery.
hondaguy said:
bell mobility's network does not work on edge (2g). it is a 3g network only. the bell version of the phone shows the option to use 2g, but people using a bell sim can only use 3g.
i have the phone unlocked and on the rogers network and while my phone will switch to 2g when rf is very low, i cannot manually set it to lock to 2g with the stock rom. i have flashed to the jm6 rom and this one gives me the option to switch to 2g and lock it in, but i have issues trying to manually switch back to 3g when i do this.
if you are in an office with poor rf strength, try leaving wifi on so that your data connection will not have to work as hard to maintain a connection. thats what i do when i get home and i find it eats less battery.
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No. use the app "APNdroid" @ http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.google.code.apndroid
Leaving Wi-Fi on without actually being connected to a Wi-Fi network actually drains your battery since it scans for nearby WiFi networks especially ones that are public and alerts you.
@Talltexan: No you did not read it right
you said:
This phone is only capable of 3g not HSPA+ however, we can go up to the threshold of 7.2. You can only turn off the 3g and will only get edge from the comment above.
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On the Vibrant, HSPA, HSDPA or whatever are still listed as 3G and not H. The OP said HSPA not HSPA+
zephiK said:
No. use the app "APNdroid" @ http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.google.code.apndroid
Leaving Wi-Fi on without actually being connected to a Wi-Fi network actually drains your battery since it scans for nearby WiFi networks especially ones that are public and alerts you.
@Talltexan: No you did not read it right
you said:
On the Vibrant, HSPA, HSDPA or whatever are still listed as 3G and not H. The OP said HSPA not HSPA+
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if the op does want to totally disable the apn then apndroid will work but i wont use that kind of stuff as i seem to have all kinds of issues after installing apps like this. i am sure it works well for some, but not for me.
zephiK said:
No. use the app "APNdroid" @ http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.google.code.apndroid
Leaving Wi-Fi on without actually being connected to a Wi-Fi network actually drains your battery since it scans for nearby WiFi networks especially ones that are public and alerts you.
@Talltexan: No you did not read it right
you said:
On the Vibrant, HSPA, HSDPA or whatever are still listed as 3G and not H. The OP said HSPA not HSPA+
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I wont continue this any further but he wanted to force it to stay on 3g or 2g and not hspa..... thanks have a great day! (see the part i highlighted in yellow in my previous app)
To answer the op's question maybe you can use Tasker to set up a task to turn off data at a specified time during the day, but its a paid app.
zephiK said:
No. use the app "APNdroid" @ http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.google.code.apndroid
Leaving Wi-Fi on without actually being connected to a Wi-Fi network actually drains your battery since it scans for nearby WiFi networks especially ones that are public and alerts you.
and i didnt say to leave wifi on without being connected to a network, i said if you are in an office all day to leave it on. i was implying that if someone is in an office all day they would be connected to a known wifi source. i do this every single day and it does not use more battery then leaving 3g on in a low rf area.
at the end of the day the op did ask for a way to turn off data completely so the apndroid app is one way to do this.
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if the op does want to totally disable the apn then apndroid will work but i wont use that kind of stuff as i seem to have all kinds of issues after installing apps like this. i am sure it works well for some, but not for me.
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Yah unfortunately i have a T mobile branded Vibrant so its hard to tell what has been changed between ours and the one for Bell.
Is there any evidence that the USA is getting a Wifi-only version of the 7.7?
I find it ludacris Verizon wants 699.99 for theirs.. I have no need for the radio built in and the extreme premium they are asking.. I'm itching to have this tablet and don't really want to order it online..
Unless T-mobile is getting the 7.7 with their HSPA+ network support built (I have a T-mobile unlimited data sim dying to get inside a nice tablet).
Any ideas?
Why not order the wifi version from negri? They are a us retailer and very reputable and you can have it in less than a week.
They have it at a very good price
https://negrielectronics.com/samsung-p6810-galaxy-tab-7-7-16gb-wifi-only-white.html
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Diversion said:
Is there any evidence that the USA is getting a Wifi-only version of the 7.7?
I find it ludacris Verizon wants 699.99 for theirs.. I have no need for the radio built in and the extreme premium they are asking.. I'm itching to have this tablet and don't really want to order it online..
Unless T-mobile is getting the 7.7 with their HSPA+ network support built (I have a T-mobile unlimited data sim dying to get inside a nice tablet).
Any ideas?
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The majority of posters in the 7.7 forum bought their 6800/6810 online. I bought two with no problems. I presume we'll see a small influx of Verizon customers in the coming weeks, though.
But, I mean...what are you going to do? Buy it online or don't get one are your two options if you don't want Verizon's version.
Do any of the 3G versions work on T-mobile's network?
The P6800 does not work on the AWS frequency that T-mobile uses. If T-mobile ever converts its network to use the 1900MHz frequency nationwide it will work but there is no time table released to show if or when that might happen.
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Do any of the 3G versions work on T-mobile's network?
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To be clear, it will work, but you will only get EDGE (2G) speeds in most of the country. I understand that AWS isn't required in some areas for T-Mobile, but you should expect to surf at EDGE speeds with the P6800.
What he said. Will it work on T-Mobile? Yes. Will the 3G work and be fast? Depending on where you are, probably not...
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If the 7.7 does come to the US in any form other than the LTE version, then it will likely ONLY be the wifi version. Carriers don't like all-in-one devices you see... That's why the LTE version doesn't double as a phone.
I'm assuming the LTE version can fall back onto Verizon's 3g network when 4g is not available, and or has a toggle (I would hope) to force 3g instead of 4g?
Diversion said:
I'm assuming the LTE version can fall back onto Verizon's 3g network when 4g is not available, and or has a toggle (I would hope) to force 3g instead of 4g?
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Don't know about the toggle, but I would assume that, yes, assuming there's no LTE coverage, it will fall back to CDMA2000 or 1xRTT, whichever is available.
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Don't know about the toggle, but I would assume that, yes, assuming there's no LTE coverage, it will fall back to CDMA2000 or 1xRTT, whichever is available.
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Correct, the device switches between CDMA and LTE coverage depending on what is available, and there is the ability to force it to CDMA only.
What i'm concerned about though, is that there's no way to turn off the cellular modem and only use Wifi. I'm assuming that when Wifi is on, the cellular radio is also turned on (even if you don't have a data plan activated on the device) causing it to use more battery by continuously checking for a signal.
Can someone confirm if you can power down the modem seperately from Wifi? I don't see the point in needing a radio always on if you're not even paying for a Verizon plan.
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What i'm concerned about though, is that there's no way to turn off the cellular modem and only use Wifi. I'm assuming that when Wifi is on, the cellular radio is also turned on (even if you don't have a data plan activated on the device) causing it to use more battery by continuously checking for a signal.
Can someone confirm if you can power down the modem seperately from Wifi? I don't see the point in needing a radio always on if you're not even paying for a Verizon plan.
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Doesn't every 3G/4G/LTE android device have a setting to turn off the mobile network? I have it on my phone and I have it on my original Galaxy Tab. Why do you think it would be different on this device?
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What i'm concerned about though, is that there's no way to turn off the cellular modem and only use Wifi. I'm assuming that when Wifi is on, the cellular radio is also turned on (even if you don't have a data plan activated on the device) causing it to use more battery by continuously checking for a signal.
Can someone confirm if you can power down the modem seperately from Wifi? I don't see the point in needing a radio always on if you're not even paying for a Verizon plan.
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My Droid X turns off the 3g radio when wifi is connected. It would make sense that it worked the same way on the LTE 7.7.
murmur70 said:
My Droid X turns off the 3g radio when wifi is connected. It would make sense that it worked the same way on the LTE 7.7.
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If your phone is still reporting signal bars when connected to Wifi, the radio is still turned on and using juice.
Paten said:
Doesn't every 3G/4G/LTE android device have a setting to turn off the mobile network? I have it on my phone and I have it on my original Galaxy Tab. Why do you think it would be different on this device?
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Guess i'll have to go back into verizon and check the settings and see if they are treated seperately. Usually all wireless (cellular and wifi) are treated as a singular on/off switch. Can't usually literally power down the cell chip and keep the Wifi chip on.
Some devices can - but I want to make sure if this one can.
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What i'm concerned about though, is that there's no way to turn off the cellular modem and only use Wifi. I'm assuming that when Wifi is on, the cellular radio is also turned on (even if you don't have a data plan activated on the device) causing it to use more battery by continuously checking for a signal.
Can someone confirm if you can power down the modem seperately from Wifi? I don't see the point in needing a radio always on if you're not even paying for a Verizon plan.
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(I wish XDA would move the Thanks button away from the Quote!)
Disabling Packet data will work fine. You can also put it in Airplane mode then just enable the radios you need.
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Disabling Packet data will work fine. You can also put it in Airplane mode then just enable the radios you need.
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Sure, disabling packet data works, but it's still not disabling the radio or tower hunting. I'll have to try the airplane mode thing, usually you can't have airplane mode ON and turn on other radios on without it pulling it out of airplane mode.
On my LTE version, On the Quick Settings bar there is a Mobile Data button you can select to toggle the mobile data on and off. It is independent of the Wifi.
Also, a nice touch, when you're not connected to WiFi and you go to access a data application such as the browser, it pops up a reminder along with the list of any in range wifi hot spots. You can disable this reminder, but it's a nice to have.
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On my LTE version, On the Quick Settings bar there is a Mobile Data button you can select to toggle the mobile data on and off. It is independent of the Wifi.
Also, a nice touch, when you're not connected to WiFi and you go to access a data application such as the browser, it pops up a reminder along with the list of any in range wifi hot spots. You can disable this reminder, but it's a nice to have.
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Do you still see signal bars even when "mobile data" is turned off?
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Do you still see signal bars even when "mobile data" is turned off?
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Wifi signal bars, yes. The same signal bars are used for wifi and 4G/3G. When you're in 4G or 3G it has a secondary indicator next to the signal bar.
I love my new Galaxy S III, but once again I have no way to force HSPA+ only. I need this option while my phone sits in my desk all day. If I can turn LTE off then I can save battery life and still get calls/texts/emails.
STOP IT AT&T, JUST STOP IT!!! Your really starting to really aggravate your customers by not allowing them to select their preferred network.
I want the network mode option in mobile networks:
GSM/HSPA/LTE (Auto)
GSM/HSPA (Auto)
HSPA (only)
GSM (only)
STOP taking this off all your phones. Every other GSM carrier in the world allows this except you!!!
I hope ALL developers add this toggle in all the upcoming roms.
Your best bet until this is added/fixed, is to turn on wi-fi mode and turn off the mobile data connection.
That way you still can make calls, and have the wifi as your data, and if its off it wont use as much power as HSPA/LTE.
mastarifla said:
Your best bet until this is added/fixed, is to turn on wi-fi mode and turn off the mobile data connection.
That way you still can make calls, and have the wifi as your data, and if its off it wont use as much power as HSPA/LTE.
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I think you kind of missed the point...
Let's say your at work all day and you don't use your phone much? Let's say your phone gets 1 bar of LTE and 4 of HSPA+. The signal constantly fluctuates ultimately leading to a dead battery much faster.
Wouldn't it be great to just turn LTE off? That way my phone gets a better signal and uses less battery life. Not to mention, I can still receive calls, texts, and e-mails, whereas airplane mode disables everything.
Wi-Fi isn't available everywhere.
PS: AT&T ain't adding ****, they released their first LTE device in November of 2011 and it also lacked this option.
I think you missed the point as well
The reason for turning on wi-fi is to direct the data connection to something other than the chip used for HSPA/LTE. I'm not looking to use the wi-fi connection as an alternative data source. I'm using it to prevent as much battery drain as possible whenever I am not using the phone.
It essentially IS turning off LTE, but it also is turning off your data, and if you don't have wi-fi then you wont have a data connection, but if you do then you will.
Airplane mode is just taking it a step further and blocking calls as well.
So there's no way to turn off LTE? Even via a 4g/3g toggle from the app store?
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So there's no way to turn off LTE? Even via a 4g/3g toggle from the app store?
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Nope, that's not how it worked on the HTC One X... even dialer codes would just reset on exiting. LTE stays on for some stupid reason with ATT.
A bet a toggle with root requirements will come out later./
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I think you missed the point as well
The reason for turning on wi-fi is to direct the data connection to something other than the chip used for HSPA/LTE. I'm not looking to use the wi-fi connection as an alternative data source. I'm using it to prevent as much battery drain as possible whenever I am not using the phone.
It essentially IS turning off LTE, but it also is turning off your data, and if you don't have wi-fi then you wont have a data connection, but if you do then you will.
Airplane mode is just taking it a step further and blocking calls as well.
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Ok? What if you don't have Wifi and your in a very spotty LTE area with fluctuating signal?
Nevertheless, we need the toggle!!!
What about an APN switcher, would that work?
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What about an APN switcher, would that work?
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Nope, many have tried this but it doesn't stick. We need AT&T to add the option under mobile networks.
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Ok? What if you don't have Wifi and your in a very spotty LTE area with fluctuating signal?
Nevertheless, we need the toggle!!!
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Then it would be best to turn off the Wi-fi and the Mobile Data connection, the only reason I have the Wi-fi on is if I'm in an area that has it (home, work, at&t hotspot) otherwise it is automatically turned off (I think?).
And I agree completely, I would love that feature, but until that time we have to make due with what we have, this is my solution, it isn't perfect but it works for me.
mastarifla said:
Then it would be best to turn off the Wi-fi and the Mobile Data connection, the only reason I have the Wi-fi on is if I'm in an area that has it (home, work, at&t hotspot) otherwise it is automatically turned off (I think?).
And I agree completely, I would love that feature, but until that time we have to make due with what we have, this is my solution, it isn't perfect but it works for me.
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Yes, but like I said turning off mobile data completely turns off the data connection, whereas with this toggle we can change it to EDGE or HSPA+ only, still having a data connection.
I agree I like turning on edge only when I'm at work and home
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I'm just hoping developers starting adding the GSM toggle via Mobile networks in their custom roms.
AT&T NEVER WILL!!!
It could be the sim card. I have a SIM card from 2007. The network toggle still works on my Thrill. Someone put a newer SIM card in their Thrill and the network toggle is gone. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1326760 post 27
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It could be the sim card. I have a SIM card from 2007. The network toggle still works on my Thrill. Someone put a newer SIM card in their Thrill and the network toggle is gone. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1326760 post 27
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And you hit the nail on the head. It's actually a mix of SIM Card and Radio. What we need is the canadian version of our radio and we will have it back.
Erm would juice defender not fix this? I still get texts and calls but it turns off my data.. plus its free! ( i bought the ultimate though)
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benefit14snake said:
Erm would juice defender not fix this? I still get texts and calls but it turns off my data.. plus its free! ( i bought the ultimate though)
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i guess technically it could since it turns off everything (Except calls) and turns it all back on every 15 minutes to check if anything was received on Att servers.
But if hes waiting for an important text or something, it would come delayed until juice defender decided to retrieve it.
not a bad idea though.
Here's an idea, since your at a desk all day, invest $1.32 on monoprice into a USB cable and charge your phone...
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doctorTJ said:
i guess technically it could since it turns off everything (Except calls) and turns it all back on every 15 minutes to check if anything was received on Att servers.
But if hes waiting for an important text or something, it would come delayed until juice defender decided to retrieve it.
not a bad idea though.
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I believe it just turns off 3g and 4g on verizon. My calls and texts are instant. Also, if you buy the app you can change frequency. Mine syncs every hour or two. It may be different with att since verizon handles their 4g in kind of a silly way.
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Here's an idea, since your at a desk all day, invest $1.32 on monoprice into a USB cable and charge your phone...
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You mean cycle it twice as much as necessary since AT&T has removed the functionality that's needed? :good: