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Possible to run Tetherbot on an RC-30 G1?

My G1 is two days old so came from the shop (T-Mobile, UK) with Android RC-30 already on. I've been trying to use it as a modem for my laptop on public transport (without success).
So far I have Tetherbot installed and the Socks service started on 1080, Android SDK is installed on the lappy (Ubuntu 8.04 LTS) and 'adb forward tcp:1080 tcp:1080) creates a port to which I can telnet to (and terminate from by pressing return). FF is configured to use a manual proxy on localhost:1080..
Also set the about:config network.proxy.socks_remote_dns flag to true.
All good, except when I enter any URL into FF, the status bar immediately shows 'Done' yet there's no rendering being done at all - still looking at a blank screen.
I've yet to try FoxyProxy which I'll give a go tonight - but I was wondering if it is currently possible to configure a instance of RC-30 w/o root access at all? Reading around, some people say it is while others say it isn't..
Many thanks,
Duncan

Definitely works in ota RC30. Snippet from the Tetherbot thread:
Make sure that you set FoxyProxy to use SOCKS for DNS lookups(under Global Settings)...this stumped me too at first
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Thanks! Web-browsing now works with FoxyProxy although I have to keep re-entering the ./adb forward tcp:1080 tcp:1080 command every few minutes..
Setting up the port-bouncer for ssh on 22 was less successful though, as it usually causes the Tetherbot application to crash.
Any ideas why T-Mobile wouldn't want you to use the phone as a modem anyway? Having come from an O2/Xda package I'd just expected that all modern phones would work as modems. Shame about the root lock-down too, I was half hoping for a meaningful bash shell and porting/installing Gnu utils, etc.
I guess the G1 would have the same data problems even if it were paired with a tablet like the N-800?
Many thanks,
Duncan

dsmith1974 said:
Any ideas why T-Mobile wouldn't want you to use the phone as a modem anyway? Having come from an O2/Xda package I'd just expected that all modern phones would work as modems.
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My guess is it has to do with anticipated network usage. I don't know how tethering works with data plans in the UK, but generally in the US unlimited data is divided into handset-only and full unlimited (e.g. for pc cards). Not only is data usage generally lower for mobile applications, you're also highly limited by battery life.
Shame about the root lock-down too, I was half hoping for a meaningful bash shell and porting/installing Gnu utils, etc.
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A lot of people were hoping for that. The G1 isn't that device though. Full unencumbered shell access would just be a nightmare from a customer service POV. The G1 is first and foremost a consumer device. A lot of those people could end up easily and irreversibly bricking their phones from a root shell.

Yeah i hear that, thats why i really dont care if i have root access. I'm sure in time all that we are wishing for will come out for g1, dont wanna ruin my phone!!! All i really want is internet sharing on mine.

A lot of people were hoping for that. The G1 isn't that device though. Full unencumbered shell access would just be a nightmare from a customer service POV.
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It has nothing to do with customer service, but T-Mobile's desire to retain control over things. They probably don't want people to do internet sharing, because it will slow down their network. What they don't realize, is that soon there are going to be a lot of unlocked android phones available which wont be subject to their policies.
What I don't get is that with any other HTC device you can boot the phone into SPL mode and flash a new image. With the G1, that is not possible.

Datruesurfer said:
It has nothing to do with customer service, but T-Mobile's desire to retain control over things. They probably don't want people to do internet sharing, because it will slow down their network. What they don't realize, is that soon there are going to be a lot of unlocked android phones available which wont be subject to their policies.
What I don't get is that with any other HTC device you can boot the phone into SPL mode and flash a new image. With the G1, that is not possible.
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Your speculations are incorrect. T-Mobile stated that they will not stop or block internet sharing, but they will not help you either. Basically they remain neutral and that is why you think T-Mobile is against you.
Google blocked the usb mode image flash. So far we just don't know how to flash a new image because we are not sure if it is supposed to be DREA100.IMG or what is even in the image itself.
Back on topic, I think you will see a real solution when Android 1.0 is released. Or at least have a way to get full root. Basically from what has been said root was locked down not because of anything we did but because the source is not open yet. They are working on things behind the scenes and they need to finish those before they want us to fool around. Give them time to finish their projects and then they will let us start our own.

Datruesurfer said:
It has nothing to do with customer service, but T-Mobile's desire to retain control over things. They probably don't want people to do internet sharing, because it will slow down their network. What they don't realize, is that soon there are going to be a lot of unlocked android phones available which wont be subject to their policies.
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It's funny you should make that statement in a thread about tethering on OTA RC30. Almost like you didn't know what the heck you were talking about...

neoobs said:
Your speculations are incorrect. T-Mobile stated that they will not stop or block internet sharing, but they will not help you either. Basically they remain neutral and that is why you think T-Mobile is against you.
Google blocked the usb mode image flash. So far we just don't know how to flash a new image because we are not sure if it is supposed to be DREA100.IMG or what is even in the image itself.
Back on topic, I think you will see a real solution when Android 1.0 is released. Or at least have a way to get full root. Basically from what has been said root was locked down not because of anything we did but because the source is not open yet. They are working on things behind the scenes and they need to finish those before they want us to fool around. Give them time to finish their projects and then they will let us start our own.
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A few things...
1. The source code has already been published (minus a few hardware specific drivers) at source.android.com. You can build an image from source and boot it on the emulator that Google has packaged with the android sdk. There still is no way to load said image on a G1 unless you have root of course.
2. Google didn't lock down SPL on the dream, HTC did. And it was probably because T-Mobile didn't want people loading their own firmware on a device that is already running on open source software.
3. Ever since this root nonsense has come to light, I don't buy the whole neutrality thing. If everyone had root access, we would have a much easier way to tether.
@jashu: I know exactly what I'm talking about because I tried doing the same thing on my friends G1 with the official RC30 firmware on it.

Datruesurfer said:
A few things...
1. The source code has already been published (minus a few hardware specific drivers) at source.android.com. You can build an image from source and boot it on the emulator that Google has packaged with the android sdk. There still is no way to load said image on a G1 unless you have root of course.
2. Google didn't lock down SPL on the dream, HTC did. And it was probably because T-Mobile didn't want people loading their own firmware on a device that is already running on open source software.
3. Ever since this root nonsense has come to light, I don't buy the whole neutrality thing. If everyone had root access, we would have a much easier way to tether.
@jashu: I know exactly what I'm talking about because I tried doing the same thing on my friends G1 with the official RC30 firmware on it.
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1. Google hasn't released the entire source code, even they have said that officially on the android site.
2. Google asked HTC to do that.
3. Google is the one that locked down root not T-Mobile. Again this goes back to them not having 1.0 released.

Datruesurfer said:
@jashu: I know exactly what I'm talking about because I tried doing the same thing on my friends G1 with the official RC30 firmware on it.
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Not only does this convince me you don't know what you're talking about, it also leads me to believe you don't know what you're doing either. Just because you can't figure out the simple instructions to perform socks-based tethering when everyone else already has doesn't mean it is broken.
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3. Google is the one that locked down root not T-Mobile. Again this goes back to them not having 1.0 released.
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Android was 1.0 at the launch of G1. See the official release notes.
Thread is going off topic.

jashsu said:
Android was 1.0 at the launch of G1. See the official release notes.
Thread is going off topic.
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it is 1.0 RC30... meaning it is still beta. Not released yet.
This thread should have been closed quite some time ago.

Just fine on OTA RC30, Vista. I had to use Proxifier as I prefer Chrome to Firefox, but it works just fine. ADB crashes on very high performance downloads, but otherwise its fine.

rc-30 ?? i think not
dsmith1974 said:
My G1 is two days old so came from the shop (T-Mobile, UK) with Android RC-30 already on. I've been trying to use it as a modem for my laptop on public transport (without success).
So far I have Tetherbot installed and the Socks service started on 1080, Android SDK is installed on the lappy (Ubuntu 8.04 LTS) and 'adb forward tcp:1080 tcp:1080) creates a port to which I can telnet to (and terminate from by pressing return). FF is configured to use a manual proxy on localhost:1080..
Also set the about:config network.proxy.socks_remote_dns flag to true.
All good, except when I enter any URL into FF, the status bar immediately shows 'Done' yet there's no rendering being done at all - still looking at a blank screen.
I'v
e yet to try FoxyProxy which I'll give a go tonight - but I was wondering if it is currently possible to configure a instance of RC-30 w/o root access at all? Reading around, some people say it is while others say it isn't..
Many thanks,
Duncan
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Duncan, I think you should have another look at what device you have, tmouk devices came out with rc-7 and an ota put them upto 8, so before you start askin questions get your facts right. Also it wasn't tmobile alone that blocked the device being used as a modem it was a joint effort between htc google and tm to promote the use of the open source to its full potential. It also doesn't breach any fair use using the hset as a modem which if it 'wasnt' allowed then you would be breaching the fair use. Ta

jashsu said:
Definitely works in ota RC30. Snippet from the Tetherbot thread:
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Thanks this helped me a lot.

AmazonMP3 for HD2 WORKS NOW in 3.14 Update -

I am hoping that someone might take a look at extracting the new Amazon MP3 Application from the new T-Mobile Official 3.14.531.1 ROM? The old AmazonMP3.cab thats been around forever never worked: meaning it searched, but would not authenticate an Amazon Account, so you couldn't "buy" songs with it, making it essentially useless. But the new one works splendidly - I installed the Official TMOUS ROM 3.14 just to test this app, and I can say it works well. I was able to register my Amazon account, purchase songs, and they appeared in the Sense Music player right away. This is how a "Media Savvy" device is SUPPOSED to WORK, for cryin out loud!
I tried copying everything over, but never could get it working on my current ROMs - it has parts in it labeled "Resco"??? and I ALMOST got it, but it fails on last step of authentication, even after creating all the Reg keys (well, the ones I could figure out from the Official ROM anyway. Looks like it uses some public key encryption in the transaction, and thats where I got in too deep for my feeble mind.... ANYONE want to take this on? It would be SO NICE to get this one working without (shudder) having to run a stock ROM, LOL!!

WP7 Installed, activated, live working, sd formatted, Android coexists... now?

As soon as i discovered I could give WP7 a try on my HD2, i started all the process...
Now it works i activated the live account and everything is ok.
I also succeded in having android still booting from the on purpose formatted SD, and i choose from magldr the desired OS.
Now... what?
I mean, WP7 seems incredibly smooth and i would like to go deeper in it, but i find myself lost.
here are my questions, being used to working with wm 6,5 and android :
1) How do i get my contacts/tasks/appointmentsback on the phone from outlook on pc ?
2) Is it possible to use the IGO8 Wm 6,5 version here with WP7?
3) how do you use the phone as an AP (wifi , usb or BT tether)?
BUT, ABOVE ALL ...
where do i find all the needed app?
I mean, the market seems tailored only to make you spend money.
There a lot of music file to download, but where are free apps?
In the Android Market you have a plethora of free apps, but i cannot find free apps for WP7 in its market, i only see apps to buy...
How can i have my Hd2 / WP7 ready to a daily use, comparable with android?
where are simple useful apps like
tapatalk, a nav, layar, wikitude, news and highlights, dictionaries, comic readers...
how can i customize the home screen like the easy android widget way?
I think i am missing something, it is my first dive into WP7 sea, so if an expert Wp7 lifeguard lends a hand, i would really appreciate any advice...
thanks in advance.

To answer your second question. No you won't be able to run any of your current Navigational software on WP7. From what i've gathered, there is currently no good paid for app for it. So no Copilot, TomTom, IGO.
It's the only thing keeping me from changing over to it actually.

WP7
Market Place is the best place to go. Search xda to find other apps, there are entire sections deticated to apps on this site. The only problem with installing from places other than the market place is that your phone has to be unlocked. If the app is not an Official app, meaning it can be found on the Market Place, then sooner or later will run into an error message requesting that you uninstall the app. This because your phone automatically locks itself after a while. You can fix by unlocking the phone again, but you will have to keep doing it everytime you want to run or install unsigned apps. If you want free apps, swipe left to the free apps section in market place.
Windows Mobile apps are not supported on WP7. You can get T-Mobile TelNav from market place, just search for it keyword tmobile
Search windowsphone.com for support setting up and syncing outlook.
No tether or wi-fi support available yet, at least none has been mentioned by anybody yet.
As for those apps you are looking for, chances are they are not on WP7 as of yet. But to make sure, search Market Place for them. To do so follow these steps: When in market place press the Home key. This will open Market Place search. (Outside of market place this key will open bing search)
For customizations go to windowsphone.com for guides and tutorials on how to use the phone and customize.
Most questions about windows phone 7 can be answered by searching or going to windowsphone.com

1) How do i get my contacts/tasks/appointmentsback on the phone from outlook on pc ?
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Just setup a liveid or exchange account. easy as hell and you should have seen this while booting the phone for the first time. Once you setup the account everything will be sincronized.
2) Is it possible to use the IGO8 Wm 6,5 version here with WP7?
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no. i read somewhere theres a gps software available but not sure which one. Major companies are still developing their softwares for wp7.
3) how do you use the phone as an AP (wifi , usb or BT tether)?
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cant right now. operators dont want period. theres a hack for samsung focus i think which enables you to use wp7 as ap. not sure about other phones, softwares or if theres already something available for this task.
BUT, ABOVE ALL ...
where do i find all the needed app?
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first. make sure your country has support for marketplace.
start marketplace -> click apps -> slide right -> click ALL -> slide right 3 times till u reach FREE.
you should see a list with lots of good free apps to download. You can also use bing to search through all the list. Check bing visual search. its really good.
where are simple useful apps like
tapatalk, a nav, layar, wikitude, news and highlights, dictionaries, comic readers...
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check marketplace. theres already 6k apps available for download/buy but you have to remember wp7 is still young. it was release few months ago you have to be patient and wait for the softwares to appear. iphone / android didnt get 100k apps in 1 day and compared to android market wp7 marketplace is growing faster.
how can i customize the home screen like the easy android widget way?
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just click and hold to remove/add etc whatever you want on the start screen.
sorry for my english

bnlf said:
Just setup a liveid or exchange account. easy as hell and you should have seen this while booting the phone for the first time. Once you setup the account everything will be sincronized.
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ok, but i hate sending my private data to an external server, i like usb (local) sync.
is there a way?
no. i read somewhere theres a gps software available but not sure which one. Major companies are still developing their softwares for wp7.
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so, no working nav... ok
cant right now. operators dont want period. theres a hack for samsung focus i think which enables you to use wp7 as ap. not sure about other phones, softwares or if theres already something available for this task.
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so, this will be the only OS not offering this simple and useful service...
first. make sure your country has support for marketplace.
start marketplace -> click apps -> slide right -> click ALL -> slide right 3 times till u reach FREE.
you should see a list with lots of good free apps to download. You can also use bing to search through all the list. Check bing visual search. its really good.
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i'll try, but i am really beginning to think that android is the future while this wp7 seems only a "new past" (if you understand what i mean).
thanx 4 the answer mate, very clarifing

gaiden0000 said:
To answer your second question. No you won't be able to run any of your current Navigational software on WP7. From what i've gathered, there is currently no good paid for app for it. So no Copilot, TomTom, IGO.
It's the only thing keeping me from changing over to it actually.
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I am dual booting WP7 and Desire Z, I use co-pilot from Desire Z.

I have the same question about contact elsewhere but no responses.
I have separate contacts on my hd2 and hotmail and wish to keep them separate.
When you register your hotmail on wp7 it automatically downloads all 700 contact which I don't want in my phone.
My hd2 is synced with outlook but I don't think you can sync wp7 with outlook.
I had an omnia 7 for a week and returned it keeping my hd2
Reluctant to flash to wp7 nit I know I can move my 300 phone contacts over.
Non tethering is a real pain. HTC did confirm to my directly that the HD7 does support tethering but the function has been removed by the operators

aenedor said:
I am dual booting WP7 and Desire Z, I use co-pilot from Desire Z.
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thanks . care to share how u did it ? is ur android sd build ?

pool7979 said:
thanks . care to share how u did it ? is ur android sd build ?
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It is a SD build, it is Dandiest's Desire Z 2.1 (the 2.2 fix / update caused it to lock up when mounting the SD card YMMV).
I followed this post : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913815 and the post it links to because at the time I could only mount one SD card at a time via my HD2.
I recomend reading the whole post and the post it links to several times before starting, I rushed into it and as a result made mistakes by not following the instructions properly, what should have taken 2-3 hours (mounting 1 SD card at a time) took nearer 8 LOL! cause I kept redoing steps until I realised how / where I was doing them wrong. This was last Sunday.
EDIT: I have a 16 gig class 6 SD card and an 8 gig SD class 6 card, I used the 8 GIG initially when installing MAGLDR and WP7 then following the instructions above transfered the WP7 partition to the 16 GIG card. This gave me a smidging under 8 gig for WP7 and a smidging under 8 gig for Android, not huge but not too shabby neither. I see you can buy 32 gig cards now, but the fast ones cost £80 so that is something for my future

BEERSHARK said:
I have the same question about contact elsewhere but no responses.
I have separate contacts on my hd2 and hotmail and wish to keep them separate.
When you register your hotmail on wp7 it automatically downloads all 700 contact which I don't want in my phone.
My hd2 is synced with outlook but I don't think you can sync wp7 with outlook.
I had an omnia 7 for a week and returned it keeping my hd2
Reluctant to flash to wp7 nit I know I can move my 300 phone contacts over.
Non tethering is a real pain. HTC did confirm to my directly that the HD7 does support tethering but the function has been removed by the operators
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You can go to Settings, Email & Accounts, click on the accounts and uncheck contacts, except for hotmail. Go figure. But I think you can sync with outlook using exchange server directly, if not sync using exchange with google and sync outlook with google as well.

Re-installing Windows Phone 7

Hello
I have just installed HSPL 2.08 and MAGLDR 1.13 with wp7.
I installed everything correctly, but i tried to install updates using zune, and now WP7 crashes randomly and sometimes has a hard time starting up.
I would like to re-fllash wp7, but i cant get into the MAGLDR menu to select the USB FLASH MODE option (or something along those lines) In order to flash the WP7 rom, like i did to begin with.
Any help? Going into rgb mode (HSDPL) works, but i cant flash it using this method.

stevemilw said:
Hello
I have just installed HSPL 2.08 and MAGLDR 1.13 with wp7.
I installed everything correctly, but i tried to install updates using zune, and now WP7 crashes randomly and sometimes has a hard time starting up.
I would like to re-fllash wp7, but i cant get into the MAGLDR menu to select the USB FLASH MODE option (or something along those lines) In order to flash the WP7 rom, like i did to begin with.
Any help? Going into rgb mode (HSDPL) works, but i cant flash it using this method.
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Sounds like you need to start fresh. If so, and I'm understanding your situation, put your HD2 into bootloader mode (power off > hold volume-down button and tap power button wait for red, green whitescreen) and do Task 29. Then reflash magldr in the same bootloader screen after your HD2 reboots. Make sure to follow the same steps for getting into the BL screen. Then you should be able to reflash WP7 with magldr.
I'm not sure, but I don't believe WP7 can be updated in Zune. I believe the only current way of getting an updated WP7 ROM is to start fresh like described above.

stevemilw said:
Hello
I have just installed HSPL 2.08 and MAGLDR 1.13 with wp7.
I installed everything correctly, but i tried to install updates using zune, and now WP7 crashes randomly and sometimes has a hard time starting up.
I would like to re-fllash wp7, but i cant get into the MAGLDR menu to select the USB FLASH MODE option (or something along those lines) In order to flash the WP7 rom, like i did to begin with.
Any help? Going into rgb mode (HSDPL) works, but i cant flash it using this method.
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you can't update wp7 on the hd2! didn't you see the error msg that no updates were performed? the hd2 roms are not official wp7 roms.

Thanks! I have re-flashed it now, i think the issue was the SD card being incompatible, not the updating of wp7 using zune.
While i am here, does anyone know how i can fix the following issues?
1. I cannot log into or connnect to any services which include facebook and outlook. Well, actually i know it can connect to outlook since the status in the top left said something allong the lines of 'weve found them' but then a message appear saying ' Ooops, We're having a problem connecting you, and all i can do is cancel'
Same goes with facebook. Currently, since my MicroSD card isnt compatible, i have no means of storage, so i cant store any contacts etc, maybe this is the issue? Im sure it wasnt working even with the card in however.
2. The camera seems very bad and doesnt fit the screen. Ive seen that this is an issue, but havent been able to find any threads resolviing the issue. If anyones found one, please could you post a link?
3. The market place, ive found a thread that claims to fix the issue, however i was a bit skeptical since theres been so many people saying you cant
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10566003
Has it really been finally hacked! It would seem so!
Come to think of it, that seems like all! The major issue at the moment is the inability to store anything which i will be sorting out soon.
I have purchased of amazon a 16GB Sandisk sd card, which claims to be class 2.
Please tell me its the right one!!
But so far, comparing WP7 to Energy, its not stacking up! Obviously the energy rom has had alot more development, but i like the way in which you can always know the weather, talk on facebook easily, install loads of apps on omarket.
I think WP7 has the possibility to be great when i have sorted all the issues out, visually, i dont think its as stunning in terms of graphics, but it is alot more simplistic and easy to use, definatley the keyboard is easier!
Anyone happy with this as their primary OS?
Cheers

Also, is there any way of booting into MAGLDR without it automatically starting WP7? Would just making it easier in terms of updating WP7 when i need too.
I currently have the latest version of mango..... i think that seems to be the most developed and worked on.

stevemilw said:
Also, is there any way of booting into MAGLDR without it automatically starting WP7? Would just making it easier in terms of updating WP7 when i need too.
I currently have the latest version of mango..... i think that seems to be the most developed and worked on.
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Choose "Services" > boot options and then choose "always menu"...or something like that name.
stevemilw said:
Anyone happy with this as their primary OS?
Cheers
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I am. I'm so pleased with mine that I won't delete it. It works wonderfully for me.

Where is services then boot options??? Are we talking about inside WP7, or on zune!? All i have is settings on wp7

stevemilw said:
Where is services then boot options??? Are we talking about inside WP7, or on zune!? All i have is settings on wp7
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In the magldr menu. Power on your HD2 from a power off state and hold the red button till the magldr options screen appears. Then at close to the bottom is the "services" option.
Make sure to hold the red button while powering up your HD2.

Thanks alot!!!

stevemilw said:
Thanks alot!!!
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Welcome. Please press the "Thanks" button, which is only shown in website skin "XDA 2010".

done, ive flashed blacside rom, seems to be working very well and i can connect to facebook, and outlook. Just on the phone to microsoft in their never ending validation que to get my code!
Ive got to sayy, its soo much faaster than the last wp7 rom and actually works! i think i will keep thiss one forever!

stevemilw said:
done, ive flashed blacside rom, seems to be working very well and i can connect to facebook, and outlook. Just on the phone to microsoft in their never ending validation que to get my code!
Ive got to sayy, its soo much faaster than the last wp7 rom and actually works! i think i will keep thiss one forever!
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That's how I feel about this elfinlazz ROM. Though it has a few bugs, they don't effect its speed or stability. And the bugs are not serious nor effect the overall usability.
I plan on keeping this one until a ripe Mango is released with marketplace and Live already configured.

Well after being on the phone for 20 minuites, phone running out of battery then being on the phone for another 20 miniutes ive finally got my phonee activated with windows live services!!!
The funny this is, the man at the main switchboard who put me through the second time, said that they've had 'a high call volume regarding this issue'!!!! Just made me chuckle because its obviously everyone hacking it for their htc hd2's ! You dont need to phone up for activation if you own a genuine product!
By the way, they take your name, tel number and email and thats it, then thhey read out the code to you and send it to your email!

stevemilw said:
Well after being on the phone for 20 minuites, phone running out of battery then being on the phone for another 20 miniutes ive finally got my phonee activated with windows live services!!!
The funny this is, the man at the main switchboard who put me through the second time, said that they've had 'a high call volume regarding this issue'!!!! Just made me chuckle because its obviously everyone hacking it for their htc hd2's ! You dont need to phone up for activation if you own a genuine product!
By the way, they take your name, tel number and email and thats it, then thhey read out the code to you and send it to your email!
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The first time I tried for a code...I did it through chat...they asked me what brand and model phone I had. I didn't lie and told them an HD2. After a minute or two they came back and said they can't give me a code for the HD2 because it isn't an official WP7 phone....or something along those lines. I said okay, thank you and closed the chat. I was going to let it go. Then after about a day I decided to call again and see what would happen; if I would get a different person. I did get a different person, and they only asked me for my name and phone number...don't recall if they asked for an email. Once I gave them my name and number, they welcomed me back...LOL. I was about to hang up but nothing came of it and after a few minutes, they came back with a code.
And from what I understand, the code is permanent for that phone. I suppose that means it will work on any WP7 ROM on that specific phone, which is good because I plan to upgrade to a ripe Mango when available.

Yea its pretty stupid how they will just hand out the codes, whats the point in even having activation AT ALL??
Im guessing the code will be locked into your windows live ID, so you can only sign in with that acccount. Would make sence, because then you can only use it on one person.

stevemilw said:
Yea its pretty stupid how they will just hand out the codes, whats the point in even having activation AT ALL??
Im guessing the code will be locked into your windows live ID, so you can only sign in with that acccount. Would make sence, because then you can only use it on one person.
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Not really. I tried to use my Live ID I have with my Samsung Focus and it worked okay and all, but I couldn't install any apps because it saw them already installed on another device. I then made a new Live ID and reset my HD2 and and signed in with that new Live ID. It went well and I could install apps from then on. But it means that the apps I've bought with my original Live ID will have to be bought again.
Maybe there is a bug in Live, I don't know, because Zune says you can have up to 5 devices on one account. But when I bought my HD7, I replaced it 3 times till I got one not faulty. When I tried to install an app on my HD2 with the original Live ID, it popped up a message saying I already have 5 devices activated and I need to delete them before I can use another. I then tried to delete the false ones but it will only allow you to delete one phone a month. I could only delete one, but it still wouldn't let me install apps.
See...the thing I think is the issue is that Windows Live doesn't communicate very well with other services or features. Example: In Gmail, if I make a change to a contact, immediately that change shows up on the Android phone. In Live, if I make a change to a contact, that change rarely ever appears on the phone. I think this is what the issue is between Live and Zune. They just aren't communicating well.

upgrading a WP7 build

So ive been using WP7 on on HD2 on and off since it came out, but ive come to stick with it now I have an android tablet.
My question is can i upgrade a WP7 build to a later version via flashing a new version of WP7? For all intents and purposes, most different WP7 builds are the same (in terms of raw system files they remain largely identical, it mostly tweaks and appearance that differ)
Right now i use XBmod NoDo. My question is, should i choose to flash a Green Mango build over the top of my NoDo build. Would this:
1. Wipe all my data entirely (i have a working SD but syncing around 1000 songs took me 215hours as its incredibly slow)
2. Mean i have to reactivate Live services?
Also if live services have to be reactivated, before i flash an upgrade can a phone be deactivated so the code can be reused? Ive used my code 3 times already, for the second time, and microsoft were annoyed the last time i asked them as they knew id already asked for one before.
I did have a search before i posted this but i couldnt find any definitive answer.
Thanks

you install any WP7 ROM via flashing (and at the moment that is the only way to update the HD2) then it will wipe everything of the card and the device
Im not sure why you keep asking MS for activation codes, you only need one, you can use that as many times as you like (on the same device)
and it took you 9 days to sync some music!!?? something not right there my friend, zune does encode it all but it shouldnt take that long at all
i wouldnt bother with Mango beta just now, its buggy and full of debug code, wait for the RTM which is only just around the corner and save yourself some hassle
finally, there is a way of backing up your data manually, you need to use Windows Phone Device manager, now the new beta versions have the backup function, the public version doesnt, but you can copy all of the data, you would then reinstall the app manually then copy back the data from your backup afterwards
read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1082343
joshman99 said:
So ive been using WP7 on on HD2 on and off since it came out, but ive come to stick with it now I have an android tablet.
My question is can i upgrade a WP7 build to a later version via flashing a new version of WP7? For all intents and purposes, most different WP7 builds are the same (in terms of raw system files they remain largely identical, it mostly tweaks and appearance that differ)
Right now i use XBmod NoDo. My question is, should i choose to flash a Green Mango build over the top of my NoDo build. Would this:
1. Wipe all my data entirely (i have a working SD but syncing around 1000 songs took me 215hours as its incredibly slow)
2. Mean i have to reactivate Live services?
Also if live services have to be reactivated, before i flash an upgrade can a phone be deactivated so the code can be reused? Ive used my code 3 times already, for the second time, and microsoft were annoyed the last time i asked them as they knew id already asked for one before.
I did have a search before i posted this but i couldnt find any definitive answer.
Thanks
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thanks a lot. If the unlimited activations is true them my first code had an issue, as it was unusable after my 3rd activation (i switch between WP and android very often). I dont know about this code as i havent tried it again.
But thanks for your suggestions and help. +rep to you