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Hi All,
I have a new TMOUS HD2 with the stock rom. I've flashed HSPL and I've added a few tweaks such as landscae mode. Nothing too much for now.
Problem I'm having is that every time I navigate to the music player it seems to hang and I end up getting the "send to M$" notice and phone's locked up. Then I have to restart the phone again.
I have the music stored on my storage card under Music/Artist/Album/Song and I have about 4 gigs worth.
Any ideas to what this could be? Appreciate the help.
mobi said:
Hi All,
I have a new TMOUS HD2 with the stock rom. I've flashed HSPL and I've added a few tweaks such as landscae mode. Nothing too much for now.
Problem I'm having is that every time I navigate to the music player it seems to hang and I end up getting the "send to M$" notice and phone's locked up. Then I have to restart the phone again.
I have the music stored on my storage card under Music/Artist/Album/Song and I have about 4 gigs worth.
Any ideas to what this could be? Appreciate the help.
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You flashed HSPL, but not a new rom?
I would start by putting just one or two mp3's on your phone's onboard storage, then pulling the card out, soft-resetting, and then seeing if your music tab finds and is able to play those couple of mp3's without locking up.
If it works fine then, you're probably experiencing the same issue many HD2 owners have been dealing with when accessing a large volume of files on the SD card. There's a number of suspected causes, mainly relating to the fact that the music (and documents) tab(s) index the whole contents of the card to find and catalog those types of files for quick use in the tabs. Therefore, a large number of files on the card seem to bog down not just those tabs but often the whole phone.
Another cause is believed to be the fact the factory card shipped with the HD2 is only a class-2 card, the slowest of all the speed ratings. If you have access to a faster card (class-4, -6, etc), even if it's a smaller size card, try that and see if it improves things any. If not, then your only other option right now is to reduce the number of files on your card until it doesn't lock up when sense tries to index it all. It's rumored that there's an update coming shortly from HTC/Tmobile, and I'm hoping that it might address this issue, but I'm not holding my breath.
I personally believe that the code used to do that indexing just isn't able to scale to the volumes of files seen now in the larger SD cards.
EDIT: Also, if you're not using it, be sure to turn off the "recent documents" tab...I don't know that it will clear up the problems with the music tab, but it can possibly help avoid lagging overall.
I can see what you mean about the indexing. Does it index each time the phone is rebooted or does it store the indexing in cache that's reused?
mobi said:
I can see what you mean about the indexing. Does it index each time the phone is rebooted or does it store the indexing in cache that's reused?
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I honestly wish I knew
I've been trying hard to come up with a solution to this issue, and I'm afraid that's one of the unknowns that I'm struggling with...how/when exactly the process is triggered, and whether or not there's any cacheing. I suspect that it indexes (in some form anyway) much more often than every reboot, as you'll see if you delete a music file, and see how quickly the list in the music tab reflects that change.
sirphunkee said:
I honestly wish I knew
I've been trying hard to come up with a solution to this issue, and I'm afraid that's one of the unknowns that I'm struggling with...how/when exactly the process is triggered, and whether or not there's any cacheing. I suspect that it indexes (in some form anyway) much more often than every reboot, as you'll see if you delete a music file, and see how quickly the list in the music tab reflects that change.
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Sirphunkee..I remember a while back when I first started reading this HD2 forum. Since before I was in the Wing Section. I read somewhere about copying a file to the startup in the windows folder. I cant remember exactly what file it was but it had to do with the music so when you woke the phone up it automatically started queing up the music that way when you went to click on the music tab it was already cached and ready to play?! I have yet to come across that thread again so that I could try it out?!
toreone said:
Sirphunkee..I remember a while back when I first started reading this HD2 forum. Since before I was in the Wing Section. I read somewhere about copying a file to the startup in the windows folder. I cant remember exactly what file it was but it had to do with the music so when you woke the phone up it automatically started queing up the music that way when you went to click on the music tab it was already cached and ready to play?! I have yet to come across that thread again so that I could try it out?!
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Ok cool, thank you! I hadn't heard about that one, so I'll go look for it and see if it gives me any insight. Did you have TF3D (the older version of sense) on your Wing, with a music tab? Maybe this is behavior that HTC added to sense at some point, with the same exact intent in mind...
you can disable the docindexservice perhaps it will be of some help. I don't use NRG ROM but the cook did put this cab out and you can give it a try, if it doesnt work just simply uninstall it and your settings will be back to normal
Disable Docindexer.cab
jfmckenna said:
you can disable the docindexservice perhaps it will be of some help. I don't use NRG ROM but the cook did put this cab out and you can give it a try, if it doesnt work just simply uninstall it and your settings will be back to normal
Disable Docindexer.cab
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Sweet! Thanks again Jimmy...I'm gonna dig into this when I get home this evening, and poke around in the registry area it changes (HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\HTCService).
I'm curious if it just does the same thing as turning off the documents tab, or if turning off the service is a wider-reaching change. Since this is the personal handiwork of NRG, I'll ping him too, but I know he's busy.
there are a number of possibilities (though i agree its likely to be the indexing)
don't use sync to copy the music, use disk mode, or put the sd in the comp
excessively long path\filename.mp3
extended set ASCII characters in the mp3 tags,,,
i'd copy over a few dozen albums at a time, see if there's a noticeable point which problems start.
also some connected reading here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=640948
samsamuel said:
there are a number of possibilities (though i agree its likely to be the indexing)
don't use sync to copy the music, use disk mode, or put the sd in the comp
excessively long path\filename.mp3
extended set ASCII characters in the mp3 tags,,,
i'd copy over a few dozen albums at a time, see if there's a noticeable point which problems start.
also some connected reading here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=640948
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Hahaha thanks Sam...I JUST finished reading over the same thread LOL Very helpful, and it's given me some further insights into this.
toreone, the first think I noticed common to your problem and the one in the thread samsamuel posted is that your music has a rather deep file structure (4 layers deep). I haven't seen anybody mention that in the troubleshooting, so it might be worth seeing if the same volume of music, but no more than 2 folders deep, still gives the same issue.
Also, in that thread, sammybusse made and posted the cab below, which makes simple registry change related to chacheing: HKLM\System\StorageManager\Profiles\SDMemory\FATFS
EnableChache 1 (changed from 0 to 1). So, perhaps the problem stems from the fact that it wasn't chacheing, rather than doing it too aggressively..
I haven't had a chance yet to poke around with it, but I think it's certainly safe enough to try and see if it makes any difference for you (it helped some people in that thread).
Another solution tried there, that had some level of success, was making sure you don't have any of the mp3's set as "read only"
toreone said:
Sirphunkee..I remember a while back when I first started reading this HD2 forum. Since before I was in the Wing Section. I read somewhere about copying a file to the startup in the windows folder. I cant remember exactly what file it was but it had to do with the music so when you woke the phone up it automatically started queing up the music that way when you went to click on the music tab it was already cached and ready to play?! I have yet to come across that thread again so that I could try it out?!
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Here it is:
Go to your Windows folder and find the file "AudioManager_Eng.exe" Create a shortcut (.lnk file) of this file and put it in your Windows\StartUp folder.
mobi said:
Hi All,
I have a new TMOUS HD2 with the stock rom. I've flashed HSPL and I've added a few tweaks such as landscae mode. Nothing too much for now.
Problem I'm having is that every time I navigate to the music player it seems to hang and I end up getting the "send to M$" notice and phone's locked up. Then I have to restart the phone again.
I have the music stored on my storage card under Music/Artist/Album/Song and I have about 4 gigs worth.
Any ideas to what this could be? Appreciate the help.
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Try to sync your music with Windows Media Player. This worked for me.
Nibbley15 said:
Here it is:
Go to your Windows folder and find the file "AudioManager_Eng.exe" Create a shortcut (.lnk file) of this file and put it in your Windows\StartUp folder.
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Nibbley, when I did this, for some reason the file would only be renamed as AudioManager_Eng.lnk.exe. And once you do it, you can't seem to delete the file. Just a heads up.
do you have a more detailed way for doing this?
mobi said:
do you have a more detailed way for doing this?
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Here you go I created a shortcut and made a cab to put it in start up. Let me know how it works
Hi there, I've been using a Froyo 2.2 Sense Build (not exactly sure which one anymore) for a while now with no stability issues, even Robovoice just being a problem in certain situations, not always.
So it is pretty much an almost complete WinMo replacement if it wasn't for two things;
Sense Music app is displaying all sounds (even from games etc) in the tracks list. all my music used to sit in the "music" folder on the root of my SD card. Now i put the music folder into the media folder that was created by android.
I still get all audio files there. (I also get every ringtone triple btw) Please advise.
The other thing is skype, but that isn't an android issue just Skype LLC/Ebay effing with the users and not seeing the light. Damn them until they do.
nope use meridian.. it is a good music and video app.
Very simple solution fro Froyo. Just create a file named .nomedia and put in any folder u want to exclude scanning.
Ciddy said:
Hi there, I've been using a Froyo 2.2 Sense Build (not exactly sure which one anymore) for a while now with no stability issues, even Robovoice just being a problem in certain situations, not always.
So it is pretty much an almost complete WinMo replacement if it wasn't for two things;
Sense Music app is displaying all sounds (even from games etc) in the tracks list. all my music used to sit in the "music" folder on the root of my SD card. Now i put the music folder into the media folder that was created by android.
I still get all audio files there. (I also get every ringtone triple btw) Please advise.
The other thing is skype, but that isn't an android issue just Skype LLC/Ebay effing with the users and not seeing the light. Damn them until they do.
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This is easy man...go to market and download an app called gallery enabler...then you are able to choose the folder/media you want it to be scanned by android system...currently skype is not available to android...try fring....
Skype...
Skype for Android ... courtesy of Google.
http://tinyurl.com/38tptj5
Havent been on android in a long while... and cant remember the process.
BUT how do you change your ringtones to using MP3s. I remember that you are suppose to put it in a certain folder, but which one and where in the directory.
Thanks
they go in:
/sdcard/audio/ringtones
/sdcard/audio/notifications
/sdcard/audio/alarms
ikon8 said:
they go in:
/sdcard/audio/ringtones
/sdcard/audio/notifications
/sdcard/audio/alarms
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the problem is ... theres no sdcard/// well i mean audio subfolder
Yes, there is. The storage partition is mounted as /sdcard. Just create the audio subfolder and throw your mp3s in there.
ikon8 said:
Yes, there is. The storage partition is mounted as /sdcard. Just create the audio subfolder and throw your mp3s in there.
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thanks... I thought I had to put it in the directory with all the original ringtones.
There's a little trick if you use winamp:
when playing the ringtone, set it as ringtone:
(I have a few humantones with a lot of curse)
Odd ringtone behavior
I've noticed an issue with my custom ringtones: the phone's ringtone resets to a default tone by itself.
I have a few mp3 ringtones and notification tones stored in /sdcard/media/audio/ringtones (and notifications). I will select the ringtone I want in settings, but after a while the phone reverts back to a default ringtone. When I go back to check my settings, none of the custom ringtones are listed. It's as if the phone doesn't see them on the internal SD card.
Most times, a reboot will clear it up; however, there doesn't seem to be any indication as to why my custom ringtone settings are lost.
I'm sure the mp3 files are OK, as I've used them before on a variety of android phones.
Has anyone else experienced this type of behavior? Any ideas what might cause this issue?
Thanks,
Sent from my Nexus S
Do you keep your contacts on the phone, the sim, or synced with Google? That might provide a clue.
I have had this happen before. Usually as a result of unmounting the internal storage. Easiest fix (doesn't take that long) if your rooted is to just adb push them to the rom. You can do it on a stock rooted rom, then do a titanium backup and in the future it will push them to whatever rom your on. But no, to answer your question, I'm not sure what causes it but it's easier to just push them once and forget about them since they take up so little space.
Everything is synched with Google.
I'll try the root and push to rom solution.
Thanks
Sent from my Nexus S
i have the same problem, and everything's synced to Google as well. Every time I mound my SD and unmount it the ringtones get mixed up or reset.
Looks as if the internal sdcard is unmounting automatically. When I lose my ringtones, looks as if I can't launch any apps I've moved over the sdcard. Strange.
Ringtone problem...Changes?
I don't know if i'm just drinking too much or if it's doing it on it's own but does anyone notice that the ringtone changes to a different one every day? I Use my own MP3 and they are no longer than 30 seconds but every day, it will set itself to a different tone....hmmm
I have noticed that I also notice that my SMS tones also change and this has to do if and when I actually connect to the USB and mount the USB.
Same here.
There seems to be a slew of issues with this phone, of which the list seems to grow by the day. It's a huge deterrent.
Is it my imagination, or are there more issues with this release than a typical phone release? It really supports what I believe was a rushed product by Google/Sammy.
i love the phone no doubt but the ringtone thing bugs me a lot. i can never tell when my phone is ringing. i been using the same tone forever.....30 days to return it if purchased at full price....thinking thinking thinking.
I have the same issue. Well issues being reported. I like the phone, for this being my first dive into Android but damn. I think this might be more of a FAIL then the N1.
I'm really thinking of returning it to Best Buy. But what phone to get? Stock Android is awesome and with fast updates it is a toss up.
Anyone else having the issue with wanting to ditch it but yet what other phone on the market will be stock android?
Well at least we all have a few more weeks to think about it.
heard someone say that the 2.3.1 update fixes it
[Q] ringtone folder?
where do i put ringtones on the nexus S? i made a folder under media so its like media>audio>ringtone but for somereason it did not recognize it. where do i put ringtones, notifications, alarms?
As title says, I am suddenly unable to set any ringtone, notification, etc on my ICS Android (HD2).
The files are there (in phone memory - \system\media\ringtones), the phone is rooted and the file permissions are fine.
But yet the ringtones do not appear in the respective lists in Settings.
Powering off does not seem to help.
Any ideas?
copy from other rom
copy from other roms ring tones to your file
Thx, but that doesn't make any sense to me.
I already have my ringtone files on my PC and I could easily re-upload them in the proper folder on the Android. But when I do so, they still do not appear...Used to work fine...
Anyone? Thx
Same pb
Hello,
I am having almost the same problem.
Sometimes impossible to find the rings while they are still on the phone.
Often, the system is in read / open and not read / write, after a reboot or two, everything falls into place.
But I do not know whence can this problem.
Good luck and tell us if you find
Franky
try an app like ring tone maker.
works like a charm for finding files and using them for rings/notifications etc
am using American Android Rom and ring tone maker to set the rings
Such programs usually store their ringtone files on the SD Card, which is not what I am looking for.
I want my files loaded from the memory - and they are already there and worked before, that's what pisses me off..
Hey guys,
I've got a Nexus 4 running the latest version of Cyanogenmod.
Every things been fine with the phone until I woke up this morning and found I'd lost my custom ringtone. Also, my photo's wern't showing up in Gallery. I connected my phone up to my PC to see what was what. (Half the time my computer won't open the phone, it just opens up saying '0 items', and I have to un-plug and re-plug in the phone several times before it lets me access the internal storage).
I found that nothing had changed; everything was still on my phone, all my pictures, ringtones etc. I quickly backed them all up to my PC in case the Nexus decided to delete them.
I really don't understand why my phone is doing this. I've put my custom .mp3 ringtone in every audio folder I could find;
Media>Audio>Notifications>Ringtones
Music
Notifications
Ringtones
I've got the song saved in about 8 different locations on the phone, and it still won't recognise it in the ringtones options. I've tried various 'ringtone-setting' apps, but they haven't worked. They told me that my custom ringtone was selected but when the phone rang, it used the default tone.
ALSO, when I tried to put my photos back on my phone (DCIM>Camera) they arn't showing up in my Gallery.
Any one else experience similar problems and knows a solution?
Many thanks
jjl5590 said:
Hey guys,
I've got a Nexus 4 running the latest version of Cyanogenmod.
Every things been fine with the phone until I woke up this morning and found I'd lost my custom ringtone. Also, my photo's wern't showing up in Gallery. I connected my phone up to my PC to see what was what. (Half the time my computer won't open the phone, it just opens up saying '0 items', and I have to un-plug and re-plug in the phone several times before it lets me access the internal storage).
I found that nothing had changed; everything was still on my phone, all my pictures, ringtones etc. I quickly backed them all up to my PC in case the Nexus decided to delete them.
I really don't understand why my phone is doing this. I've put my custom .mp3 ringtone in every audio folder I could find;
Media>Audio>Notifications>Ringtones
Music
Notifications
Ringtones
I've got the song saved in about 8 different locations on the phone, and it still won't recognise it in the ringtones options. I've tried various 'ringtone-setting' apps, but they haven't worked. They told me that my custom ringtone was selected but when the phone rang, it used the default tone.
ALSO, when I tried to put my photos back on my phone (DCIM>Camera) they arn't showing up in my Gallery.
Any one else experience similar problems and knows a solution?
Many thanks
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Use file explorer and start to hunt down a file name ".nomedia" (without quotes), the file explorer need to have "show hidden files" enabled. For your case, most likely there is one placed under /sdcard.
ksilver89 said:
Use file explorer and start to hunt down a file name ".nomedia" (without quotes), the file explorer need to have "show hidden files" enabled. For your case, most likely there is one placed under /sdcard.
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There isn't a .nomedia file in the root of the storage but there is a NOMEDIA file in the Notifications folder.