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How is everyone feeling about there being just over 1 week of big development on the Hero? ... ... ... Evo is coming out soon so I expect this board to die down a lot.
centran said:
How is everyone feeling about there being just over 1 week of big development on the Hero? ... ... ... Evo is coming out soon so I expect this board to die down a lot.
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Well, I can have it both ways I guess. I've had the Hero since January and I love it. My dad will be getting the EVO next weekend. So I've been explaining to him the benefits of root and what not, and I think I have him convinced to root it. I have to admit that I am jealous, although it will be nice to have some hands on experience when I do root it for him.
I have my Hero rooted with Fresh 2.1.2 and with the Envy theme on it. I might start to learn to theme on my own since there are tutorials out there. It looks easy, but time consuming.
Ultimately, I'm satisfied and I thank the themers and the rom devs out there who made my phone a nice piece of work.
Listen.. Not everyone will be able to upgrade and not everyone here has 500 dollars to shell out for a phone in an economy like this. Progress will slow as far as hero goes but will not stop. come June 4th ill still be here and so will everyone else... Theres a strong reality in the real world and most people who say "ill get the phone" will not get it simply because life doesn't work that way. Theres stipulations and events that happen daily that impede peoples lives and plans.
Stop worrying about development for the hero.
centran said:
How is everyone feeling about there being just over 1 week of big development on the Hero? ... ... ... Evo is coming out soon so I expect this board to die down a lot.
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I don't think it's gonna die off that much. I don't recall hearing flipz, damage or toast saying they were jumping ship.
Powers16 said:
Listen.. Not everyone will be able to upgrade and not everyone here has 500 dollars to shell out for a phone in an economy like this. Progress will slow as far as hero goes but will not stop. come June 4th ill still be here and so will everyone else... Theres a strong reality in the real world and most people who say "ill get the phone" will not get it simply because life doesn't work that way. Theres stipulations and events that happen daily that impede peoples lives and plans.
Stop worrying about development for the hero.
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Well said my man!
Most of us got our phones in Sept/Oct thus not up for upgrade, I doubt many of us will be jumping ship to a $500 phone.
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I am going to pay full price for the evo.
But i am going to miss my damage control roms.
You guys made the long wait for 2.1 much more bearable.
I will still be on the forums for the hero. I helped people at work root and flash there devices.
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Most of us got our phones in Sept/Oct thus not up for upgrade, I doubt many of us will be jumping ship to a $500 phone.
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I know a ton of people are on ppcgeeks, it's like a ghost town in the hero section. But in reality xda has always been the main place for development anyways. Im a bit shocked at godzson & zen leaving so soon though.
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I don't think it's gonna die off that much. I don't recall hearing flipz, damage or toast saying they were jumping ship.
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Actually, Toast (arguably our best true code developer) has said he is getting the EVO. That in itself is a big big loss.
i wont be leaving, and i havent developed any roms lmfao ahahahahahahahahaah i will continue to see you guys around here, but i am getting some help from a mentor of mine who is teaching me how to compile my own kernels and i will soon make my own few roms for my hero, mwuahahahahaha(evil laugh)
I *was* going to get the Evo and actually considered purchasing it outright or adding a second line to my account to get it, but not sure if I can handle an additional $80/mo bill on top of my current load which is horrendous already.
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I *was* going to get the Evo and actually considered purchasing it outright or adding a second line to my account to get it, but not sure if I can handle an additional $80/mo bill on top of my current load which is horrendous already.
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Additional &80???
How's that? Do you have just one line right now?
I am pretty sure I am holding off on the EVO. Not that the specs don't give me a hard on, but ----- I really want a tegra or dual core snap dragon even more than I want this.
And I don't have 4g any my area, and it took years to even get 3G here...I can only imagine the roll out will be just the same. I really can't belive there are still parts of the U.S. that are dead-zones...let alone not having 3G.
I was absolutely pumped on the EVO and am eligible for an upgrade. However, after some recent disappointments with Sprint's service/customer service, I will be sticking with my Hero. I don't plan on ditching Sprint (yet) but I also have no desire to extend my contract with them, which is the whole reason they come out with the newest and fastest so quickly.
So, I've decided I'm not taking the bait. In a few months, I will be a contract free Hero owner and plan to enjoy the peace of mind of knowing I can tell Sprint to go **** themselves whenever I please.
So.. yea I think ill be returning the Atrix tomorrow. The phone is amazing: great screen, great battery life, amazingly fast, but I just don't think it is really necessary to have right now.
I wasn't planning on using the webtop application so that whole idea was out; the phone is fast but when compares to my Nexus 1 and Captivate, only loads pages 1-3 seconds faster than the two.
I'm planning on just hollding onto my upgrade until something else comes out or they lower the price of fhe laptop dock or make it better.
Anyone else with the same feelings?
Props on signing off without a list of dumb reasons on why you are returning it. You feel like you don't need it right now and there's nothing wrong with that. Good luck with your new phone.
me want but me no really need....
man i was itching to buy this phone. ive been holding back my compulsion to buy this phone but its geting harder and harder.
just got to keep teling myself that its not a need but a want. got to stop trolling this atrix forum before i nd up buying it
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got to stop trolling this atrix forum before i nd up buying it
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I'm gonna end up doing the same... I want an Atrix bad, but I am curious when a true 4G (LTE) android phone comes out. May have to wait to jump until then.
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So.. yea I think ill be returning the Atrix tomorrow. The phone is amazing: great screen, great battery life, amazingly fast, but I just don't think it is really necessary to have right now.
I wasn't planning on using the webtop application so that whole idea was out; the phone is fast but when compares to my Nexus 1 and Captivate, only loads pages 1-3 seconds faster than the two.
I'm planning on just hollding onto my upgrade until something else comes out or they lower the price of fhe laptop dock or make it better.
Anyone else with the same feelings?
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I just got back from returning mine. I felt the same way I'll hold out on my upgrade until something else comes out. My unlocked vibrant is getting 4x faster upload speed than the atrix. Now thats unacceptable even if att is the reason why it's capped.
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I just got back from returning mine. I felt the same way I'll hold out on my upgrade until something else comes out. My unlocked vibrant is getting 4x faster upload speed than the atrix. Now thats unacceptable even if att is the reason why it's capped.
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Sailing in the same boat, leaning towards selling/returning
I'm probably returning mine within the next few days. It's a great phone but I'm just not feeling it. A lot of the apps that I use often are just more mature and have more features on iOS. It doesn't help that the bootloader is locked and I won't get to enjoy the Cyanogen ROM's I liked so much when I was using the Nexus One. Probably the final straw is also that I am not in a market that has the enhanced backhaul completed yet so my speeds are just as fast on my iPhone 4, which also natively supports HSUPA.
I'll be looking for another Android device as it gets closer to summer.
I added a line and purchased the Atrix at 199 for it..If I decided to return it, and use my captivate on that line, would that upgrade just stay on that line until i use it?
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I added a line and purchased the Atrix at 199 for it..If I decided to return it, and use my captivate on that line, would that upgrade just stay on that line until i use it?
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Yes. If you return within 30 days you get the upgrade back on that line.
it's great I'd you want to try ever phone and you can just keep switching over and over within a month.
You might have to pay a little for restocking or something (and the phone but that can be made up with return)
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So.. yea I think ill be returning the Atrix tomorrow. The phone is amazing: great screen, great battery life, amazingly fast, but I just don't think it is really necessary to have right now.
I wasn't planning on using the webtop application so that whole idea was out; the phone is fast but when compares to my Nexus 1 and Captivate, only loads pages 1-3 seconds faster than the two.
I'm planning on just hollding onto my upgrade until something else comes out or they lower the price of fhe laptop dock or make it better.
Anyone else with the same feelings?
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I was thinking about returning not because I did not need it but because of the random reboots. But I got that fixed today by calling AT&T and have them fix my account. I have the captivate but this phone is beast, I no longer have to worry about widgets taken too much memory, application running that needs to be close, and phone not performing because of too many things running.
Now I will take a lock phone that can run all my apps with no issues then a phone I can customized but still having issues with performance and memory. So at this moment this is definitely a keeper until something better (which I think won't happen until the christmas holiday). Let's be real the next bing thing on the horizon is the SGS II, it is likely not coming to AT&T so we are going to end up paying big bucks for AT&T 3G compatible version imported to the US.
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Let's be real the next bing thing on the horizon is the SGS II, it is likely not coming to AT&T so we are going to end up paying big bucks for AT&T 3G compatible version imported to the US.
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A bit off-topic. Care to back up your guess? All the Galaxy S2 specs I've read so far is covered by AT&T: 850/900/1900/2100
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A bit off-topic. Care to back up your guess? All the Galaxy S2 specs I've read so far is covered by AT&T: 850/900/1900/2100
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Read again or call your resailers, there will be two version one with 850/1900 that will come after the Euro one. I don't think AT&T will be carrying it. I thought the same thing at first but I believe the specs from Samsung are misleading. Let's wait and see but I will not hold my breath.
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A bit off-topic. Care to back up your guess? All the Galaxy S2 specs I've read so far is covered by AT&T: 850/900/1900/2100
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Yea; why would they not release it here? It sold tons here in the US and although it might not go to every carrier, I'm confident it will go to ATT
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Yea; why would they not release it here? It sold tons here in the US and although it might not go to every carrier, I'm confident it will go to ATT
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I hope I am wrong because I would want it on AT&T too, but remember AT&T is getting the iPhone 5 sometime during the summer or fall. I won't bet my money on them getting another powerful phone that could potentially knock the iPhone 5. I think the Atrix was the answer to the iPhone 4 going to Verizon. It took AT&T a long time to get the Captivate in rotation.
The HD2 never made to AT&T although there was one with AT&T 3G
See I've had the Captivate and loved it and Android and was forced to get rid of it due to it's battery life. It would last like 6-7 hours not even joking. But this Atrix is a beast. I took it off the charger about 8:30 am and I have 30% remaining now and im a heavy user of everything. Streaming music using audio galaxy through my jawbone while connected to wi fi for hours at work. Battery life got me loving android again.
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I hope I am wrong because I would want it on AT&T too, but remember AT&T is getting the iPhone 5 sometime during the summer or fall. I won't bet my money on them getting another powerful phone that could potentially knock the iPhone 5. I think the Atrix was the answer to the iPhone 4 going to Verizon. It took AT&T a long time to get the Captivate in rotation.
The HD2 never made to AT&T although there was one with AT&T 3G
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AT&T drug their feet on the Captivate a little when they had exclusivity with Apple. Now that Verizon and possibly other carriers will have the iPhone 5, don't expect any such coddling of Apple by AT&T. The CEO of AT&T has been using a Captivate as his personal phone since 4Q10 and made sure the media knew he was toting it. He won't be helping Apple out at the expense of other devices any longer.
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AT&T drug their feet on the Captivate a little when they had exclusivity with Apple. Now that Verizon and possibly other carriers will have the iPhone 5, don't expect any such coddling of Apple by AT&T. The CEO of AT&T has been using a Captivate as his personal phone since 4Q10 and made sure the media knew he was toting it. He won't be helping Apple out at the expense of other devices any longer.
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I'd really like to believe that, but...it seems pretty obvious (to me anyway) that the Inspire and Atrix were gimped as to not knock iPhone as at&t's flagship. There's just no other explanation. iPhone is still at&t's top-seller.
I had been itching to buy the Atrix for over 5 months (when it was known as the Tegra 2 Olympus) but now, with the locked bootloader and the complete uselessness of the front camera and the fact it won't get Ice Cream till December'11, I'm thinking dual-core won't officially matter till Google releases a Nexus with it.
Who wants to develop for dual-core anyway when 95% of the phones on the market are single-core? If only stupid moto left the bootloader unsigned, I could have relied on XDA to deliver Ice Cream when it arrives in May/June.
Sad.
A lot people on these threads are dogging the Atrix because of missing features, things not working etc. Damn, can we just enjoy the device. The phone just came out a week or two ago, give it a chance. I had one of the Google I/O Evo's when they came out last year and it was issues with that too. They released the Evo to general public and those too had some issues that consisted of SD card problems, capped fps, battery issues, screen tearing and a lot more. But over time and with updates, the issues that was at hand with the Evo, got fixed and now the Evo is one of the top of the line phones.
I can understand if you just don't like the Atrix but to have the phone a day or two and say oh I'm returning it because it has lag or some other stupid reason..is ridiculous. Most of the time you have lag, it's because of a rogue app or setting. And when talking about apps, one must also remember that this is one of the first if not the first Tegra 2 handset on the market. With that said a lot of apps may not be compatible with the the Atrix...just yet. I know I ran into this issue when I bought the Nexus S. There was a lot of apps in the Market that wasn't compatible with 2.3, one specifically the camera app Vignette. I actually emailed the dev behind the app and they emailed me a different version of the app that worked fine.
I haven't haven't had a iP4 since last year when I sold mine. But for the people coming from the iP4 to Android,specifically the Atrix and is whining about the bootloader being locked, isn't the iPhone locked down as well?
All I'm saying is I'm sure that there will be some updates coming out for the Atrix that will fix some of these issues that everybody is complaining about.
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A lot people on these threads are dogging the Atrix because of missing features, things not working etc. Damn, can we just enjoy the device. The phone just came out a week or two ago, give it a chance. I had one of the Google I/O Evo's when they came out last year and it was issues with that too. They released the Evo to general public and those too had some issues that consisted of SD card problems, capped fps, battery issues, screen tearing and a lot more. But over time and with updates, the issues that was at hand with the Evo, got fixed and now the Evo is one of the top of the line phones.
I can understand if you just don't like the Atrix but to have the phone a day or two and say oh I'm returning it because it has lag or some other stupid reason..is ridiculous. Most of the time you have lag, it's because of a rogue app or setting. And when talking about apps, one must also remember that this is one of the first if not the first Tegra 2 handset on the market. With that said a lot of apps may not be compatible with the the Atrix...just yet. I know I ran into this issue when I bought the Nexus S. There was a lot of apps in the Market that wasn't compatible with 2.3, one specifically the camera app Vignette. I actually emailed the dev behind the app and they emailed me a different version of the app that worked fine.
I haven't haven't had a iP4 since last year when I sold mine. But for the people coming from the iP4 to Android,specifically the Atrix and is whining about the bootloader being locked, isn't the iPhone locked down as well?
All I'm saying is I'm sure that there will be some updates coming out for the Atrix that will fix some of these issues that everybody is complaining about.
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I've been using the Iphones since 2008 and I think some of the issues that people that are coming from an Iphone are having is that it just works out of the box. I was use to a device just working and with the atrix there is a lot of setup time. The contacts are cumbersome and it pulls them from everywhere without giving you the options clearly to select where you want the contacts to come from. The android market is not as mature as the app store. If I get an app from the app store, I know it will work just fine with my phone, that's not always the case with android.
Despite all the hate people have for apple, their closed app store prevents a lot of things from happening. Their device works just right out of the box and a lot of end-user's prefer that and even some of us techies.
I work with PC's all day long and to be honest the last thing I want to do is work on anything computer related when I get home. When I got the atrix, it felt like I was working. It took some time to sort out all of the issues and I still have some that linger on, yet whenever I got an iphone it just worked. I plugged it in and it synced everything and it just worked. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the iphone is the best phone out there. I personally think iOS has grown stale and prefer the android notifications over apples, and let's not get into multitasking... I know android is better at that. The problem is that you have too much fragmentation and that doesn't sit well with most people.
Now you mentioned updates and that's another issue that android has... google doesn't update all the phones, it has to go through the manufacturer and carrier. That, in my opinion is a huge mistake, it causes too many delays and a lot of phones are never even updated. So, while some of the issues can be fixed with an update the question is, will they? The iphone crowd knows for them that it will because most bugs are dealt with through minor updates and then you get the major updates.
The android platform has a lot to offer, I just think google gave away too much control to the makers of these handsets. I think a lot of issues would be alleviated if google just took control back and just released the updates themselves.
I'm keeping the phone and so is my wife, she really loves the customization of it and the widgets. However, I understand where a lot of people are coming from, it's hard to justify spending money on a phone that just doesn't work out of the box.
As for the bootloader, yes apple has everything locked down. A jailbreak is all you need on the iphone. You don't need custom kernels because it's all optimized for apples hardware. You can find a ton of mods as well just by opening up cydia on your phone. The hacking community for the iphone is pretty active, which brings me to another point... I've been looking through the dev forums and most of what I see is dev bickering. I doubt we will see any solid development for the atrix when you have devs to busy trying to prove you can't do something and the others trying to argue with them about it. That's just a waste of time, drop the bullcrap and collaborate, you really never know what you may find.
I was very excited about the atrix, but the more I read those forums the more I knew this phone was doomed.
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This is the phone I was waiting to get. Received good reviews at majority of sites.
But reading about all the nightmares on every forums, all the bugs, everyone returning/exchanging it,etc.
I played with one at store for over an hour and it seemed very quick with not too many problems. I liked but its not enough time to see all the problems.
The Bell store here is selling it for $0 now on a contract. That's how desperate they are to get rid of it.
So in 10 days the price was already chopped twice.
Am I really going to have to go thru 5 units to find a decent working one?
I can live with a locked bootloader for now but everyday a new issue seems to be coming up.
It seems like this phone is a year away from being done/updated.
What are the main problems/defects I should check on before exchanging for another to make sure I'm not stuck with a crappy model.
Thanks.
Wished Motorola would get their heads out their asses with all their products.
Come out with something good then they do everything they can to **** it up somehow. You can tell them you'll sell millions of their crappy stock and they still would not unlock the bootloader. That's how seriously stupid they are.
btw, I'm actually a Motorola shareholder. Thankfully Motorola Solutions is not a complete loser.
I came from a captivate and Nexus one. I dont have any glaring issues - theres ALWAYS *****ing for every phone whenever its released. Take everything you read on forums with a grain of salt.
I've never had one issue with mine. People just like to ***** no matter how great the device is.
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I have had ZERO problems with my phone out of the box. Same goes for 2 other people I know personally.
One just doesn't like Blur.
My brother used it as his primary computer since he got it and can't stop extolling the virtues of Webtop.
He's an IT professional and coordinated a 13+ site migration from one network to another ALL from the Laptop dock.
Some of the sites he was at didn't have wifi so he was using webtop over AT&T for his ONLY connection.
Said he spent more time trouble shooting his laptop the one day he forgot the charger for the Laptop Dock then he spent troubleshooting the phone or laptop dock for the entire 2 weeks.
If citrix is a big part of your life this phone could revolutionize your life.
No problems here. I haven't experienced any bugs except for the touch screen wigging out after a 12 second hold in one place.
It is a little disconcerting that Bell has decided to drop the price only a few weeks into launch. I hope the community stays strong because I intend on keeping it.
Ditto for me -- I'm using an unlocked AT&T version on Rogers network in Canada --- absolutely LOVE the phone. Came from a Galaxy-S, Captivate, and iPhone 4 before that.
This is the best one by far, and the best android implementation so far for me.
$0 on contract!?! holy ****. just get it!
KingKuba13 said:
This is the phone I was waiting to get. Received good reviews at majority of sites.
But reading about all the nightmares on every forums, all the bugs, everyone returning/exchanging it,etc.
I played with one at store for over an hour and it seemed very quick with not too many problems. I liked but its not enough time to see all the problems.
The Bell store here is selling it for $0 now on a contract. That's how desperate they are to get rid of it.
So in 10 days the price was already chopped twice.
Am I really going to have to go thru 5 units to find a decent working one?
I can live with a locked bootloader for now but everyday a new issue seems to be coming up.
It seems like this phone is a year away from being done/updated.
What are the main problems/defects I should check on before exchanging for another to make sure I'm not stuck with a crappy model.
Thanks.
Wished Motorola would get their heads out their asses with all their products.
Come out with something good then they do everything they can to **** it up somehow. You can tell them you'll sell millions of their crappy stock and they still would not unlock the bootloader. That's how seriously stupid they are.
btw, I'm actually a Motorola shareholder. Thankfully Motorola Solutions is not a complete loser.
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I came from a captivate and Nexus one. I dont have any glaring issues - theres ALWAYS *****ing for every phone whenever its released. Take everything you read on forums with a grain of salt.
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I've never had one issue with mine. People just like to ***** no matter how great the device is.
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andy2na and captaincanada84 are right, some people will ***** just to *****. With that said, I have done my fair share of "complaining" but it's based on my opinion. You really can't go to a forum and ask people if you should buy something because you are going to get both sides of the fence. Just browse the forum and pay attention to what people are praising about and what people are complaining about and try to decide from that. It's really going to come down to YOUR preference.
I love my atrix.
My only problem is the facebook contact sync because of moto blur, I am having some issues with it not updating my contacts pictures.
Battery life is awesome I am sometimes in disbelief how long the battery lasts 1 day + with everything on and actually using the phone which is a must..
My phone doesn't randomly reboot I don't know about other people.
As for the locked bootloader I'm not in a rush. I have launcher pro and root so thats all I need.
Previous phones. G1, Nexus one, Dell Streak.
Dude what Bell store is that? It's still $69.95 on the Bell site.
You just need to remember that nobody goes to a forum to state that everything is working perfectly, they only post when they have a problem. So, you have to keep that in mind.
I've been running my Atrix since it was first released and it's been very stable. My only issue is it seems to not like my AT&T microcell too much. I get dropped connections when on my microcell. Works fine eveywhere else. It's a huge improvement over my Nexus 1.
Also think about how many people are using the phone that don't read forums... So far I am extremely happy with this phone. I usually hate upgrading because there is always another phone better right around the corner, but you'll find yourself waiting forever in that case. My only dislike is the facebook integration in blur breaking contact syncing.
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Starholdest said:
Dude what Bell store is that? It's still $69.95 on the Bell site.
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Yes, please tell. I know a lot of people looking for an Atrix right now and would kill for that. If I weren't on a great retention rate plan with Rogers I'd get that in a heartbeat.
Thanks for replies everyone.
I think a lot of the negativity is people trying to trash a new device or envy. Plus it gets popular to trash any locked phone these days.
I've been waiting to get this phone since it was announced. The 4" screen seems perfect in size. Had no problem looking at the pentile graphics.
Its just scary to see the price drop so fast, it rarely happens here in Canada unless something is a super flop like the Samsung Tab, idk.
But I'm mostly going to get it in a few days and hopefully there's a good future with it and developers on here. Always learn something new. Some people are just to lazy to play around with the phone to get the max out of it.
How is the overheating? It seemed rather warm at the store.
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Dude what Bell store is that? It's still $69.95 on the Bell site.
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It was in a Bell store in London Ontario.
Dude at Future Shop said he'd be match the 0$ too.
Makes me think twice when stores do that compared to whinny kids on forums because money talks and its obviously not selling that well.
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It was in a Bell store in London Ontario.
Dude at Future Shop said he'd be match the 0$ too.
Makes me think twice when stores do that compared to whinny kids on forums because money talks and its obviously not selling that well.
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Yea I asked Bell why the price drop to $69.95 and they said "because we like to give our customers a discount", which is total BS, but it's not like they're going to flat out tell me the device is a flop.
If you want to pick it up I would suggest getting it soon because according to the Bell reps I talked to the sale ends on March 31st.
Elliott
Patience All devices are judged pretty harshly at the beginning.. You just got to reap from the benefits with a slashed price!
I'm completely happy with mine- it's fast, the screen is beautiful and it's got more internal storage than I need. If you're not a fan of motoblur, gingerblur will make you happy!
Go ahead and take the plunge.
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Yea I asked Bell why the price drop to $69.95 and they said "because we like to give our customers a discount", which is total BS, but it's not like they're going to flat out tell me the device is a flop.
If you want to pick it up I would suggest getting it soon because according to the Bell reps I talked to the sale ends on March 31st.
Elliott
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Its hard to believe they'll put it back to the original price after the "sale" with all the new other smartphones coming but who knows.
More worried about Bell taking forever with updates. This with 2.3 and then 2.4 will just scream.
i love this phone to death.
best phone i have ever had.
The ability to turn into a PC is the biggest plus. This phone has so much potential. Honestly what motorola does with the bootloader and such sucks, but so long as we can at least root/sideload, personally, I am completely fine with that.
Motorola also stated that every one of their phones in the future will have webtop. So I will be sticking with motorola android phones (specially once Tegra 3D comes out) for a while until a better company has a similar PC like feature embedded on the phone. Can't go wrong with the powerful atrix! Emulators and games run SO smooth... love it.
I wanted to know if I should buy the unit unlocked now or wait till it comes out in America with AT&T?
If I wait for the AT&T version, though, it will likely come barraged with bloatware and features will be locked like tethering. I believe that rooting the Note will allow tethering and removal of the bloatware but I'm not sure. I am eligible for the 2 year discount if I get the Note with AT&T but how long will I have to wait?
I currently have the Dell Streak with a 5" screen and Rooted with a Streak-Droid custom ROM and all the bells and whistles included but this new G-Note is making me very happy! I gotta have one!
What do I do? $700 now with no Bloatware and tether ready or wait for AT&T to put there crap in it and pay $300 or so and then root it?
This is a video (a long a$$ video) of the Galaxy Note and Nexus World Tour in Europe. This should help you understand why this phone will be sought after sooooo much.
i have the same confusion.. but who knows when AT&T will get the phone.. 2 months or more wait i guess.. wait will kill me... on the other hand 700$ seems too much...
I have been battling this same debate.
Here's the pros to waiting:
1. Save at least $400.
2. Gives time to see what bugs may come out by first buyers.
3. Easier warranty replacement through local att store.
4. Better layout of buttons as ours will likely come with a search button.
5. Possibly an NFC enabled American version.
6. During your wait you fin out about another device right around the corner that blows this one away...samsung it notorious for announcing a new device that blows away their current devices. Who knows..super amoled plus hd 5 inch screen?
The negatives:
1. They get it first. You have to watch everyone enjoy their awesome device as you remain sleepless at night refreshes pages for an announcement of release here.
2. The wait could be anywhere from 2-6 months for a release here.
3. The international version will get updated first while we wait forever for ATT to approve the update here.
4. Missing the cool look of the one main button vs a stupid search button.
5. Lose interest...convert to being an Amish and start making your own jams.
I'm leaning more towards waiting, but my upgrade isn't up until Jan 1st anyway. I also don't see the benefit in buying an unsubsidized phone since we don't get lower monthly rates for it. I could maybe accept paying $400 if I could save $20 a month on rate plans over the next two years.
From my experiences, it's ALWAYS better to wait in these particular situations, where new technology is evolving so quickly. Let samsung work out the kinks on the 1st batch of notes. (i.e. 1st batch of ps2's were not as good)
I really wanted the samsung galaxy s2, but waited and now I'd rather have the note. Save money, and more better options will open up.
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From my experiences, it's ALWAYS better to wait in these particular situations, where new technology is evolving so quickly. Let samsung work out the kinks on the 1st batch of notes. (i.e. 1st batch of ps2's were not as good)
I really wanted the samsung galaxy s2, but waited and now I'd rather have the note. Save money, and more better options will open up.
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On the other hand, I enjoyed the sgs2 for about 6 months now and can sell it and buy another phone.
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Live is short. Enjoy its pleasures while you can. I got my sg2 when it was lunch in Europe 6 months ago and I've enjoyed it. I feel like it's time for me to move on to a device like the Note. I want a super amoled HD screen bigger than 4.3" so bad that I will pay full price if I have to. I just wish it had NFC.
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For me I just can't see spending that much on a phone so I will wait for AT$T to get it. I am also worried about the warranty.
I am glad that I am a physician.
Study hard and work hard and you get to enjoy the fun toys in life.
I just ordered the unlocked Galaxy Note. I will be enjoying it a few months and then sell it at a loss and buy another high end phone. $700 for a phone is a lot but then it only take me about half a day to make $700. I could never wait for 2 months to get a new phone that I want. Time is money.
Life is short, so enjoy the fruit of your labor. I encountered dead and sick people often so I get to appreciate life a lot.
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I am glad that I am a physician.
Study hard and work hard and you get to enjoy the fun toys in life.
I just ordered the unlocked Galaxy Note. I will be enjoying it a few months and then sell it at a loss and buy another high end phone. $700 for a phone is a lot but then it only take me about half a day to make $700. I could never wait for 2 months to get a new phone that I want. Time is money.
Life is short, so enjoy the fruit of your labor. I encountered dead and sick people often so I get to appreciate life a lot.
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What he said.
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Earthbrain said:
I am glad that I am a physician.
Study hard and work hard and you get to enjoy the fun toys in life.
I just ordered the unlocked Galaxy Note. I will be enjoying it a few months and then sell it at a loss and buy another high end phone. $700 for a phone is a lot but then it only take me about half a day to make $700. I could never wait for 2 months to get a new phone that I want. Time is money.
Life is short, so enjoy the fruit of your labor. I encountered dead and sick people often so I get to appreciate life a lot.
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Where did you buy it?
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eallan said:
Where did you buy it?
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I pre-ordered it at MobileCityOnline.com
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I pre-ordered it at MobileCityOnline.com
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If they had a date i might pull the trigger.
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I have another question to ask...
Is the UK version of...let's say... the SGS2 the same as the American version. At least as far as Hardware is concerned.
I'm curious if it is common for Samsung to have Hardware differences in the same phones for different countries.
Anybody know?
This would make a huge difference in my decission to wait or not.
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I pre-ordered it at MobileCityOnline.com
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I pre-order one also the 26 but still no ETA
If it makes any difference to anyone sitting on the fence: I just read an article that said the FCC passed an AT&T version of the Note today. At first I thought "who cares," because I'm debating pre-ordering too, and as anyone else considering pre-ordering knows, the european model has support for at&t's radio frequencies anyway. BUT, the article pointed out the support for HSPA+, which I didn't consider before. I don't really care, as it's never made much of a difference for me, but if you do care, there ya have it.
The wait could still be a long, long time, but I like to hope that FCC approval means it will be here soon. Then again, maybe Sammy is just being diligent with paperwork... does anyone know when the AT&T GS2 passed through the FCC?
AT&T announced two new phones today, if the note was going to be on their network in less than a few weeks, I think they would have announced the Note too
Hey, Earthbrain: I don't mean to start a fight or get off topic, but I have to address the comment you made earlier. My father was a physician too, and I know it takes a lot of work to get there, it involves long hours, and you deserve to make a great salary. Not debating that. And I applaud your advice to study hard and work hard. But I don't like the implication that studying hard and working hard = good income. Not because that's a bad idea (it's a GREAT idea!), but because it's extremely untrue. I'm a teacher, and I work damn hard. As hard as a doctor? I can't say, I'm not a doctor, but I doubt it's a significant difference.
I know you didn't mean to be a jerk - you meant to give good advice - but it just feels like a slap in the face when you're busting your ass all the time for completely thankless work that pays less than 30K. You work hard and deserve a good salary, I just wish the state/school could afford to pay me 1/4 of your salary. Hell, 1/8 would be a miracle. My advice to any youngster/grade school student reading these forums: Work hard, study hard, be kind, and if you want a good salary (which is a good thing to have), choose your career accordingly.
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If it makes any difference to anyone sitting on the fence: I just read an article that said the FCC passed an AT&T version of the Note today.
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That article is a month old.
FCC approval was a long time ago and unfortunately it does not mean that ATT is going to get it soon
You have to ask yourself if you can wait that long before AT&T releases it. It took nearly 6 months for AT&T to get the SGS2 from the time I bought my SGS2 from Expansys-USA.
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Hey, Earthbrain: I don't mean to start a fight or get off topic, but I have to address the comment you made earlier. My father was a physician too, and I know it takes a lot of work to get there, it involves long hours, and you deserve to make a great salary. Not debating that. And I applaud your advice to study hard and work hard. But I don't like the implication that studying hard and working hard = good income. Not because that's a bad idea (it's a GREAT idea!), but because it's extremely untrue. I'm a teacher, and I work damn hard. As hard as a doctor? I can't say, I'm not a doctor, but I doubt it's a significant difference.
I know you didn't mean to be a jerk - you meant to give good advice - but it just feels like a slap in the face when you're busting your ass all the time for completely thankless work that pays less than 30K. You work hard and deserve a good salary, I just wish the state/school could afford to pay me 1/4 of your salary. Hell, 1/8 would be a miracle. My advice to any youngster/grade school student reading these forums: Work hard, study hard, be kind, and if you want a good salary (which is a good thing to have), choose your career accordingly.
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Sorry for being a little off topic but I have to clarify after reading this post.
When I said "study hard and work hard" I implied that you will have better chance of having a good income. I did not make it absolute like you stated as "study hard and work hard = good income"
Nothing is absolute in life except for DEATH.
Doctors work very hard, but of course there are exceptions and there will also be "some" teachers who work harder than "some" doctors. However, to put it in some perspective, imagine that you are a "certain" doctor that have to go to the hospital at 6:30 am to do rounds and go home at 7 p.m after admitting all the patients and then there are days when you are on call in which you are constantly being awaken by the nurses or that your heart is beating more rapidly trying to revive a patient from a code blue.
Oh, and speaking of salary differences. An orthodontist who does braces normally make about 5X the salary of a general doctor and normally does not work as hard and has less responsibility. They both "have to study hard and work hard" .... so why is there such a big gap in salary?
Guys? Let's take this personal discussion of careers and salaries offline to Private Message.
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What he said.
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What that guy said!
So how many people we really still have using and working on the vibrant? I'm feeling kinda lonely with my love for this phone =P seems like the vibrant is getting left in the dust allot quick then my G1, which is sad =/
Also side note, anyone else feel like with a SGS there really isn't anything good enough to upgrade to yet? Only phone I'd even consider is the original SGS2 or the sprint SGS2. And those are iffy due to crappy audio. Vibrant is the best phone I own period. Beats my nexus S in everything =P even beats out my HP touchpad easily IMO. Thoughts?
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I feel you man, I'm getting bored of this phone. I will probably upgrade to the muiu phone. Since, it's battery lastes so long.
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I just got the Vibrant about 2 months ago, as my wife's Motorola crapped out on her and our carrier swapped it out for the Vib. She wanted to swap with me, so I did and I have to say that once I upgraded it to a custom ROM, I actually like it a lot. It works well for me and what I want.
I think that most of the Jump-ship is because of boredom and not performance. I feel that and understand it. I have been there myself, but I like this phone and it is really easy to handle, breakdown (mean ADB by this) and there have been some really great customizations out on it.
Plus between the 16gb internal and my 32gb external,that is some serious storage for a phone. My old computer from a few years ago only had 30gb hard drive in it.
I am here and plan on staying for awhile.
I'm still here, kinda. My G2x is my main driver, but i still got my Vibrant and still build kernels when i have time. You're not alone
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I'm still here, kinda. My G2x is my main driver, but i still got my Vibrant and still build kernels when i have time. You're not alone
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Doesnt really serm like it lol
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But this phones death is due from no updates.from tmobile. it just makes it way harder to develop for....
Go to the galaxy s2 forums ;-) .
You will find most of the great devs from many of the different forums there.
It seems as though Samsung shipped out yet another phone with outdated filmware lol....imagine that,
They are promising to send ics thru kies lmao ....I believe we have been thru this BS before
There are 3 vibrants in my home. My wife upgraded to the sensation and after a week gave it to my son and took her vibrant out of the drawer. I personally love this phone. Thanks to all the devs who still work on it. I have stockpiled my fave roms and kernels....just in case the remaining devs leave
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I just got my Vibrant 2 mth ago from my fren who sold to me. Im not chasing the technology so i tink this phone is great for me. I like it a lot n planning to stay with it for a while longer cos i dont have the 2yrs contract matter. Btw cos im frm Singapore and we dont have Vibrant here so that makes my phone unique than the original SGS..lol. But i really dissapointed on Samsung on the firmware case and yeah this phone if rooted fly high. So i have to say i love my vibrant. Also thanks to all the devs here, appreciated what u guys have done for us n for staying with us making us great customs roms/kernels.
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I'm still here, kinda. My G2x is my main driver, but i still got my Vibrant and still build kernels when i have time. You're not alone
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Any plans for IcS? I'm gonna start working on it today
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ICS for Vibrant? Looking foward to this.lol
this is a great phone and when rooted does everything i've ever wanted a phone to do. although the experience with ICS will more than likely be better I'm still content with what we have so far. there are no hardcore 3d games that have pushed the hardware to the limit so I don't see any real hardware upgrade necessary. I stopped buying games on my vibrant any way cause I wasn't finishing the ones I had bought before and realized I was wasting my money. So i'm simply using it for media apps, social apps etc. These don't really need a dual core processor with 1gig of ram. The only thing I could want is an identical ICS theme and I'd be set at least for another year on this phone even if we don't ever get ICS.
Yeah, I could maybe see myself moving over to the Nexus S simply because it's got a bigger dev community and the T-Mobile version can be found for pretty cheap, but otherwise I just can't justify moving on from the Vibrant. If I don't go for the Nexus S I'll probably ride out with this until more ICS phones come out.
Hey ECOTOX, I've been quietly learning some stuff about Android and whatnot, I wouldn't consider myself a dev, not even close to one, but I'm learning and I catch on quickly, if you need any help, or have any tips, I'm here. I love this phone, and I won't be moving on to any other phone anytime soon.
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Hey ECOTOX, I've been quietly learning some stuff about Android and whatnot, I wouldn't consider myself a dev, not even close to one, but I'm learning and I catch on quickly, if you need any help, or have any tips, I'm here. I love this phone, and I won't be moving on to any other phone anytime soon.
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Pm me and give me the DL on what you can do
=)
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Still here till July 15th of next year. Then I'm off of T-Mobile. In the meantime I put miui on my phone for the first time and it really renewed my love for what this phone can do. Still ready for a new one though.
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If Devs are here im still here just waiting till we get no support at all but i love this phone! best ive ever owned an it was ahead of its time
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If Devs are here im still here just waiting till we get no support at all but i love this phone! best ive ever owned an it was ahead of its time
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I'll support it as long add a decent amount of people still got it lol
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ECOTOX said:
I'll support it as long add a decent amount of people still got it lol
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Glad to here cant wait for the journey of ics
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Yeah, I could maybe see myself moving over to the Nexus S simply because it's got a bigger dev community and the T-Mobile version can be found for pretty cheap, but otherwise I just can't justify moving on from the Vibrant. If I don't go for the Nexus S I'll probably ride out with this until more ICS phones come out.
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I feel the same. I just don't see a lot of end user support with the Samsung products such as the Vibrant, and many other iterations. Updates seems to either take forever or it'll may never see the light of day. As for developer community? I can't really complain about their support for this device, since they are bringing out the goodies out of their own time with no expectations of donations, etc. And I'm grateful that they are cooking up roms, etc. In the future? I will be purchasing a Google branded phone: prompt updates, and great end user support. I just can't live with a dead end product, just feels like I got cheated out.
Well I just went to T-Mobile store and played with the sgs2 and I must say I'm completely impressed.
With a quadrant score of 2748 stock I'm blown away.
With my shattered screen and assurion's choice of replacement I'm sticking with my broken vibrant with miui ...I'm hoping sgs2 gets miui soon ...but I'm getting antsy and just might go out next week and buy the sgs2 outright