TMO US Data Plan Question - HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera

Ok so before i had my hd2, i had ANOTHER hd2, which was back since it was released, then i switched to an iphone 3g and kept the data plan from my hd2, after that, i decided to give the mytouch a chance and hated it, then in july i heard about android on the hd2, and i went back to an hd2 just to try android (because i always loved the phone and its specs, just not a big fan of winmo) but just yesterday, i was checking my bill on tmobile.com and noticed i am being charged for the mytouch data plan, so i was wondering if it makes ANY difference switching back to HD2 data plan, i am running bangsters 1.4 and the internet is working flawlessly but i noticed its a little slower than other phones (used my friend's evo on 3g network, amazingly fast, also another friends droid incredible and its also faster than fast on 3g network)
I DO KNOW the difference in the networks, and thats also why i am asking, because i dont know if the reason why my internet is slow, if its the data plan, TMO overall, the hd2, or the android OS
Lets get to the poiunt: should i keep the mytouch data plan or switch back to the HD2 data plan?? (keeping in mind i will be using it under android os)

Feel free to switch back to the HD2 data plan. It wont matter even of you're running it in android.
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I have used both on my android hd2 and I so no difference in my internet speed.

If you are not on contract, switch to the Web2Go plan, which is a $10 data plan intended for non smartphones. It functions identically to the more expensive $30 HD2/MyTouch data plans, and works fine under Android as the APN can be changed appropriately (internet2.voicestream.com).

ckjy said:
If you are not on contract, switch to the Web2Go plan, which is a $10 data plan intended for non smartphones. It functions identically to the more expensive $30 HD2/MyTouch data plans, and works fine under Android as the APN can be changed appropriately (internet2.voicestream.com).
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unfurtunatly yes i am and this exact same phone is the cause, i renewed my 2 yr. contract on the release date of this phone so pretty much im screwed, but thanks anyways

i'm actually running my hd2 WM & android on my old blackberry data plan (19.99 unlimited data)
edge/3g/h all work without any issues

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Ok so before i had my hd2, i had ANOTHER hd2, which was back since it was released, then i switched to an iphone 3g and kept the data plan from my hd2, after that, i decided to give the mytouch a chance and hated it, then in july i heard about android on the hd2, and i went back to an hd2 just to try android (because i always loved the phone and its specs, just not a big fan of winmo) but just yesterday, i was checking my bill on tmobile.com and noticed i am being charged for the mytouch data plan, so i was wondering if it makes ANY difference switching back to HD2 data plan, i am running bangsters 1.4 and the internet is working flawlessly but i noticed its a little slower than other phones (used my friend's evo on 3g network, amazingly fast, also another friends droid incredible and its also faster than fast on 3g network)
I DO KNOW the difference in the networks, and thats also why i am asking, because i dont know if the reason why my internet is slow, if its the data plan, TMO overall, the hd2, or the android OS
Lets get to the poiunt: should i keep the mytouch data plan or switch back to the HD2 data plan?? (keeping in mind i will be using it under android os)
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I have the same problem i am running bangters v.5 and am in minnesota where we have hspl+ (4g speed) but still never reach over a mb in upload or download

blazehockey1234 said:
I have the same problem i am running bangters v.5 and am in minnesota where we have hspl+ (4g speed) but still never reach over a mb in upload or download
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the data plan, as far as android or HD2 data plan, will not matter. There will only be a difference in an Unlimited data plan or the other t-mobile data (as suggested). This would only require a change in the APN though.
As for 4G, the HD2 is not capable of HSPA+ so this will not affect your speed... well your speed could be better based on less people using the 3G because of the '4G' HSPA+, but you will not see HSPA+ speeds ever.
and... spl = Secondary Program Load, hspl = Hard* Secondary Program Load
*I believe the 'h' stand for hard...

ckjy said:
If you are not on contract, switch to the Web2Go plan, which is a $10 data plan intended for non smartphones. It functions identically to the more expensive $30 HD2/MyTouch data plans, and works fine under Android as the APN can be changed appropriately (internet2.voicestream.com).
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What really?!??!?
Does that actually work?

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T-Mobile $10 Plan for G1

I have a rooted G1 with the latest CM rom.
I search and found a lot of old thread about using the $10 wireless plan for the G1. However I know it has been patched by T-Mobile.
My question is how can I get my G1 to work with the current T-Mobile $10 wireless plan (I believe 2G only)?
Thanks
The $10 is for Phone First devices only. It has nothing to do with limiting the handset to 2G services only as Tmobile offers many 3G handsets that can take advantage of that package.
Does anyone have an answer to this?
I have tmobile with the 9.99 plan and it works perfectly (on edge) with my jailbroken iphone.
I just switched to the g1 and it have been rooted and a custom hero rom is installed but I cannot get my internet to work. I have tried wap.voicestream.com, internet2.voicestream.com and internet3.voicestream.com with no luck. Is there any way around this?
not gonna work on any android phone
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not gonna work on any android phone
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Thanks for the answer
Looks like I have to go back to my iphone.
Do you know if the data would work on AT&T or how about the prepaid Tmo plan?
I think ATT recently started ID'ing smartphones by the IMEI # and limiting them to data only plans. The orifices (http://tinyurl.com/33pnjj8) have there subsidy marketing model under attack and had to find a new scam.

Tmous HD2 on AT&T

Hi,
I am currently locked into a 2 year AT&T contract. I have traded my iPhone for the HTC HD2, however. I was planning on using it without a data plan and relying on Wifi. I was wondering what other people with AT&T were doing with their HD2. How much does AT&T charge per month for unlimited data? Since it's only capable of using the EDGE network, would the data charges be less than that of the iPhone? Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Hi, I have the HTC Tmous HD2 on AT&T. I had just had a basic feature phone before, so before I got the HD2 I added the $15 Unlimited Data Plan, so far no issues with them trying to upgrade me to the $30 plan. It does show up as some really old Blackberry on the ATT website when I log in, but they haven't tried to upgrade me. In fact, they sent me a few text messages bascially telling me to use more data, haha. It's just fine on Edge for me also, webpages load to readable very quickly, just the last of the little icons and pictures is where you notice the slower speeds.
Peace
Dan

Attention former iPhone users: Is your data use higher or lower with the Aria?

One of my friends switched from an iPhone and now uses 50% more data on the Aria (but still under 1GB).
I convinced another friend to switch from iPhone to Aria but he is worried about the new 2GB data plan because he used 3-4GB per month on his iPhone. Think he'll be screwed?
(I guess I got lucky that they kept me on an old unlimited plan)
struff said:
One of my friends switched from an iPhone and now uses 50% more data on the Aria (but still under 1GB).
I convinced another friend to switch from iPhone to Aria but he is worried about the new 2GB data plan because he used 3-4GB per month on his iPhone. Think he'll be screwed?
(I guess I got lucky that they kept me on an old unlimited plan)
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It all depends on how you have the phone configured/use it. I use more data simply because I was downloading nightly releases of CM6 directly on the phone, and had sync setup for gmail. But once I stopped downloading nightlies, my usage was about the same.
They can't take away his unlimited plan if he's just upgrading.
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They can't take away his unlimited plan if he's just upgrading.
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They do take it away since it's an iPhone data plan so it's not grandfathered in like the PDA plans are. All my friends that went from 3gs to android lost the unlimited plan.
dalavar said:
They do take it away since it's an iPhone data plan so it's not grandfathered in like the PDA plans are. All my friends that went from 3gs to android lost the unlimited plan.
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I ordered it using an upgrade for a second line... so thankfully I still have my data plan (until they scan the IMEI and automatically change my plan which will probably be in a month or two)
dalavar said:
They do take it away since it's an iPhone data plan so it's not grandfathered in like the PDA plans are. All my friends that went from 3gs to android lost the unlimited plan.
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Booooo, at&t...
I got to keep my unlimited plan when upgrading from a WM phone to Android.
My data use went up, and I'm using more than the fiancee who has a 3GS, and she uses her phone more than I do.
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I used an upgrade on an iPhone line (my wife's) to get my Aria - and was told that the iPhone unlimited data plan was only able to be grandfathered if the upgrade was to another iPhone, so I lost unlimited on that line. Apparently any other data plan (BB or standard smartphone for WM or Android) could be grandfathered to each other for upgrades.
I came from a BB 9700, and my max data use with that device was 200MB in one month, with the average around 100MB. With the Aria so far, I am averaging around 400MB per month. I don't stream a lot of media, and try to do most of my downloading when I am using wifi. I believe most of the increase in data usage for me comes from much more frequent use of the browser - it is just such a better experience with Android. I often tried to avoid opening the BB browser due to how slow it was. Other than my change in browser use, I pretty much use the Aria for the same things as the BB.
dalavar said:
They do take it away since it's an iPhone data plan so it's not grandfathered in like the PDA plans are. All my friends that went from 3gs to android lost the unlimited plan.
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they tried to do this to me and i complained! so they kept it for me
i used about 10 gb per month with my iphone (no lie!)
and i use about the same with my aria
im probably one of the reasons why AT&T put a data cap sorry
P.S i used it for tethering thats why (dont tell AT&T)
My data usage is higher, but the phone is also much faster than my 3G so I do more with it. On a side note they let me keep my unlimited data, and told me I was grandfathered in.
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My usage has increased as well coming from an iPhone 3gs; but only marginally. I was allowed to keep my unlimited data plan as well with no hassle. Granted my iPhone was stolen so I gave at&t quite a bit of money for an "early upgrade". They may have been concerned I'd just pay the early term fee and jump to another carrier.

T-Mobile claims Nexus One can handle 4G like speeds.

So I called T-Mobile today because they have promotional 4G rate plans right now. And I gave T-Mobile my IEMI number and according to their systems the nexus one qualify for the upgrade to their 4G network. I upgraded to it for an additional $5 dollars a month. Now to my knowledge the nexus one was not built to handle 4G band speeds but I did notice a major speed boost on my device. Maybe not a full 4G experience but definitely feels like my 3G is on steroids. Btw I'm on the EVEN MORE PLUS PLAN.
That would be awesome...I thought you would need a new radio to get it. What radio version are you using? Anyhow, do post up some Speedtest results!
i was wondering about this because HSPA+ is just a newer version of what Tmo 3G phones use, afaik there is no change in the bands they use to communicate and it really should just be as simple as flashing a new radio to a phone to get it to be HSPA+ (aka 3.5G aka T-mobile 4G)
now i doubt that a provider will be willing to update their current phones because they want you to buy a new phone that is "for their 4G" network. its possible though that the Korean radios that have leaked may have this support in them and might explain why your seeing a speed increase.
something else you can do is go into settings>about phone>status> check mobile network type to see if it says HSDPA or HSPA+
there is also another more advanced screen that you can check but i forgot the silly #*#* code you put into access it but i know if you install the app anycut you can make a shortcut to the screen as well
with anycut just make a shortcut for "phone info" to pull up the more advanced screen.
I'm getting 2.87MBps down, and 1.30MBps up. And no I didn't do any radio update. I just told the T-Mobile I wanna switch over to 4G and they said ok and switched me over for an extra five dollars a month.
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look @ my sig, no 4G and i got better speeds
RussianSolja said:
I'm getting 2.87MBps down, and 1.30MBps up. And no I didn't do any radio update. I just told the T-Mobile I wanna switch over to 4G and they said ok and switched me over for an extra five dollars a month.
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that's not HSPA+ speeds, HSPA+ speed varies from the same as HSDPA to twice as fast.
http://www.tested.com/forums/phones/4/tested-t-mobiles-hspa-network-vs-traditional-3g/3943/
in this test the N1 maxed out at 2.41MBit down and the G2 never went under 3.32Mbit down and topped out at 8.16Mbit down.
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look @ my sig, no 4G and i got better speeds
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that is very good for 3G but uncommon and probably about as fast as you will ever see on HSDPA.
here in the east SF Bay area i usually get about 1.0 Mbit down on my N1 on T-mobile but the speed i see varies and depends highly on local network traffic and what my signal strength is at
Keep in mind that I'm in the subberbs
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Check the specs, n1 will only Max at 7.2 dl 2.0 ul, anything higher is bull
http://www.htc.com/www/product/nexusone/specification.html
N1 here and I had the original data plan that cost 24.99/mo. Old family plan I had for ages since I had the SE Xperia X1, which I still have but do not use .
I have the 3G+ speeds ever since I started using the CM roms, but I never "upgraded" the data plan for faster speed.
How much were you paying beforehand if I may ask? And was it a data plan as well?
I don't think the Nexus can handle the same speeds as the G2 or the new Mytouch 4G.
At work someone has the Mytouch 4G and we did speed test with both phone, mine is on the latest Korean radio and he's download speed was always double than my Nexus.
So again I don't think is possible.
Never claimed to be on HSPA+
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Never claimed to be on HSPA+
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I didn't implied you lie, what I say is they are wrong, and it's sad because I'd love to have 4G in the nexus.
I dont really understand 3g and 4g speeds, but isnt the latency more important? I dont think 3mb vs 10mb will make a huge difference on a phone, it doesnt on my desktop connection, but isnt the biggest hurdle the time to actually get the network to connect to the internet? From what i have noticed, the first website you access takes alot longer than the subsequent sites.
smachine said:
I dont really understand 3g and 4g speeds, but isnt the latency more important? I dont think 3mb vs 10mb will make a huge difference on a phone, it doesnt on my desktop connection, but isnt the biggest hurdle the time to actually get the network to connect to the internet? From what i have noticed, the first website you access takes alot longer than the subsequent sites.
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Depends on your usage...if you download files, then speed DOES matter, MUCH more than latency. If you simply browse, you do need a MINIMUM speed, but then latency is mucchhhh more important. I would consider 5mb a minimum speed for good browsing.
On computers, you CAN use faster speeds to access the pages faster by using pipelining...dun think phones have support for that though
RussianSolja said:
So I called T-Mobile today because they have promotional 4G rate plans right now. And I gave T-Mobile my IEMI number and according to their systems the nexus one qualify for the upgrade to their 4G network. I upgraded to it for an additional $5 dollars a month. Now to my knowledge the nexus one was not built to handle 4G band speeds but I did notice a major speed boost on my device. Maybe not a full 4G experience but definitely feels like my 3G is on steroids. Btw I'm on the EVEN MORE PLUS PLAN.
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Call them back and get back on the $20 preferred Android Internet plan. They misinformed you. The data plan you are on does not determine the data speed you see. There are a ton of people on HowardForums with old grandfathered $5.99 T-Zones plans and $9.99 web2go data plans getting faster speeds then what you are seeing.
You are wasting your money with any plan more expensive then the $20 preferred Android Internet plan and if you can get on a cheaper one it will work exactly the same.
It's very possible that T-mobile is throttling accounts now that they can offer faster overall speeds.
It could be a (****ty-consumer wise) way to exploit the 4g (mis)nomer.
I can tell you this I am a T-mobile RSA and I am not sure what the extra $5 amonth the guy did but there is no 4g data plan. Every Android data plan i use in the store is the same plan I give ppl on every android phone T-Mobile sells. There is no 3G or 4G plan. Every plan is the same unless you are looking at the 200mb, 2gb, unlimited plan. I would say call 611 and tell them to change it back and run speed test again. T-Mobile in the soon to be future is moving to a 3 tier data plan. By this I mean they are going to let you pick a 200mb, 2gb, and unlimited data rate plan. Every plan is going to have the same speeds but limit you to what you can download before you are throttled or start to see overages. Call and get your money back.
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I can tell you this I am a T-mobile RSA and I am not sure what the extra $5 amonth the guy did but there is no 4g data plan. Every Android data plan i use in the store is the same plan I give ppl on every android phone T-Mobile sells. There is no 3G or 4G plan. Every plan is the same unless you are looking at the 200mb, 2gb, unlimited plan. I would say call 611 and tell them to change it back and run speed test again. T-Mobile in the soon to be future is moving to a 3 tier data plan. By this I mean they are going to let you pick a 200mb, 2gb, and unlimited data rate plan. Every plan is going to have the same speeds but limit you to what you can download before you are throttled or start to see overages. Call and get your money back.
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Same thing he said. I'm a TMobile CSR and whoever you were speaking with was trying to get a 5.00 bump on there add ons. No difference between EDGE data plans/3G data plan/4G(HSPA+) data plans. People that use the Iphone on our network pay the same 25 or 30 that people do that have 3G devices.
OP is a car salesman dream customer. "Would you like extended warranty?"
I'm in canada on rogers "hsdpa+, hspa, 4g, etc" and at peak hours I get 2.95 down and 1.2 up and have had up to 5.65 down 1.4 up
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Unlimited Data Plan on T-Mobile & AT&T

I currently have HTC HD2 running on Android. I am currently on AT&T and I am thinking about getting the T-Mobile $50 unlimited talk/text/data plan.
The first 100MB are full speed. My question is, after I use up the first 100MB of full speed data, what speed will I be getting? Will it be 3G or EDGE? Or will it be slower than edge?
What if I get AT&T's unlimited data for non-smartphones? AT&T can't detect my HD2, so I will be able to add this plan. But what will be the data speed I will be getting? Is it 3G, EDGE, or slower than EDGE?
What if I get AT&T's $50 Monthly Unlimited GoPhone Prepaid plan? They won't be able to detect my HD2 as a smartphone, so will I be able to use their unlimited data? What will be the speed of the data plan?
If there is an occasion where I remove my SIM card from the HD2 and put into an iPhone, will AT&T automatically detect it and remove me from the unlimited data plan?
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I currently have HTC HD2 running on Android. I am currently on AT&T and I am thinking about getting the T-Mobile $50 unlimited talk/text/data plan.
1. The first 100MB are full speed. My question is, after I use up the first 100MB of full speed data, what speed will I be getting? Will it be 3G or EDGE? Or will it be slower than edge?
2. What if I get AT&T's unlimited data for non-smartphones? AT&T can't detect my HD2, so I will be able to add this plan. But what will be the data speed I will be getting? Is it 3G, EDGE, or slower than EDGE?
3. What if I get AT&T's $50 Monthly Unlimited GoPhone Prepaid plan? They won't be able to detect my HD2 as a smartphone, so will I be able to use their unlimited data? What will be the speed of the data plan?
4. If there is an occasion where I remove my SIM card from the HD2 and put into an iPhone, will AT&T automatically detect it and remove me from the unlimited data plan?
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1. I don't know which version of the HD2 you have, but if it is currently getting 3G on AT&T, then it won't get 3G on T-Mobile. You would need the T-Mobile version of the HD2 for that. T-Mobile throttles speeds back one tier from what you pay for when you hit the soft cap. For example, if you pay for the 3G/4G service, you will get throttled back to EDGE. It will still show a 3G or HSPA connection, but the speeds will be down to somewhere around 100kbps down and 70kbps up. If you don't get 3G with them anyway, then you won't see any difference at all.
2. AT&T does not have any unlimited plans anymore. Even if you get a data plan with them, they can absolutely detect the IMEI number even on non-AT&T devices. They will send you a free text telling you that you need to be on a smartphone data plan. If you ignore the text, within a couple of days, you will have the lowest plan of $15 data for 200MB added to your account.
3. Again, they can detect the type of device you are using and will add an appropriate plan to your account for your device. Data speeds depend on the coverage area and the device you are using. Only the Telstra HD2 is able to get 3G on AT&T. The European and T-Mobile ones will only ever get EDGE speeds.
4. This is the same as what I described above. Once you start using the iPhone, it will be detected and your plan will be adjusted accordingly, whether you allow them to do so or not.
You will get much better customer service and data consistency on T-Mobile in most cases. Their plans are also WAY cheaper on T-Mobile. Depending on which HD2 you actually have, your data speeds will vary in comparison to AT&T. I, personally, have been a contract-free customer with T-Mobile for a very long time. I still pay $50 for 1000 minutes a month, which is unlimited for me, unlimited texts, and unlimited data. I'm grandfathered in, so I also do not have a soft cap on my data connection, nor do I have to pay for tethering.
When all is said and done, the best thing about T-Mobile is that it isn't AT&T.
You can still trick AT&T into getting an unlimited plan if you use phones they don't know the IMEI of, or if you activate the account with an iPhone 2G.
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You can still trick AT&T into getting an unlimited plan if you use phones they don't know the IMEI of, or if you activate the account with an iPhone 2G.
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IMEI's are very easy for carriers to look up. It does not only apply to devices they carry. This is a common myth. Once they see the IMEI of a smartphone, whether it is theirs or not, you get stuck with the smartphone data plan. It makes no difference. IMEI's are easily available and carriers have a database of which devices they belong to.
does ATT have a list of smartphone that requires data plan, anyone knows?
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does ATT have a list of smartphone that requires data plan, anyone knows?
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All AT&T smartphone-type devices require data plans. To my knowledge, there are no exceptions.
cajunflavoredbob said:
All AT&T smartphone-type devices require data plans. To my knowledge, there are no exceptions.
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so if I have a t_mobile smartphone and willing to stayat edge speed, I should be okay? thanks
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so if I have a t_mobile smartphone and willing to stayat edge speed, I should be okay? thanks
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They are going to tack on a smartphone data plan, but yes, you can use it on their network after you get a SIM from them.
I agree with about 90% of what cajunflavoredbob replied.
Tmobile HD2 = Tmobile USA 3G or 4G (HSPA+)
HTC HD2 (Non-Branded) = AT&T 3G or Other providers 3G or HSPA+
When it comes to the plan type:
Tmobile Prepaid 4G (Month to Month) = $50 Unlimited Everything (1st 100MB is 4G)
My friend just got this plan and using it on Tmobile HD2.
I will check with him and report back once I have him do a few major download to pass the 100MB cap & a few speed test.
AT&T GoPhone Prepaid = $50 Unlimited Everything (No 3G for Smartphones)
Just got this like yesterday and tested on 3G iPhone.
3G iPhone data connection got blocked immediately after about 1 minute or usage.
However, if I switch back to the 3G Samsung SGH-A717, I was able to browse around and use 3G data on AT&T.
Therefore, I'm pretty sure AT&T system is scanning IMEI in real-time like cajunflavoredbob replied.
But I'm not sure about the Non-Branded HTC HD2 using 3G data on AT&T. Sorry but I do not have a Non-Branded HTC HD2 to test with. I'm currently activating prepaid services for people and will keep my eyes and ears open for you guys.
Personally, I'm pretty sure Non-Branded HTC HD2 WILL WORK & WILL PICK UP AT&T 3G because AT&T system WILL NOT RECOGNIZE the device & will treated as Non-Smartphone device.
That's all I found out for now. I will update once I do a few speed test here & there.
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I agree with about 90% of what cajunflavoredbob replied.
Tmobile HD2 = Tmobile USA 3G or 4G (HSPA+)
HTC HD2 (Non-Branded) = AT&T 3G or Other providers 3G or HSPA+
When it comes to the plan type:
Tmobile Prepaid 4G (Month to Month) = $50 Unlimited Everything (1st 100MB is 4G)
My friend just got this plan and using it on Tmobile HD2.
I will check with him and report back once I have him do a few major download to pass the 100MB cap & a few speed test.
AT&T GoPhone Prepaid = $50 Unlimited Everything (No 3G for Smartphones)
Just got this like yesterday and tested on 3G iPhone.
3G iPhone data connection got blocked immediately after about 1 minute or usage.
However, if I switch back to the 3G Samsung SGH-A717, I was able to browse around and use 3G data on AT&T.
Therefore, I'm pretty sure AT&T system is scanning IMEI in real-time like cajunflavoredbob replied.
But I'm not sure about the Non-Branded HTC HD2 using 3G data on AT&T. Sorry but I do not have a Non-Branded HTC HD2 to test with. I'm currently activating prepaid services for people and will keep my eyes and ears open for you guys.
Personally, I'm pretty sure Non-Branded HTC HD2 WILL WORK & WILL PICK UP AT&T 3G because AT&T system WILL NOT RECOGNIZE the device & will treated as Non-Smartphone device.
That's all I found out for now. I will update once I do a few speed test here & there.
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The unbranded HD2 will NOT get 3G on AT&T. The only version of the HD2 that will get AT&T 3G is the Telstra version. It will be not be "blocked" from the Internet service, but it will cause them to activate an appropriate monthly charge to your account. In the case of a prepaid plan, they will mostly likely block you completely when you use a smartphone device. This isn't me guessing at it, this is fact. If you try to use a smartphone, even if it is not an AT&T branded phone, on their network, they CAN and WILL update your account accordingly.
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The unbranded HD2 will NOT get 3G on AT&T. The only version of the HD2 that will get AT&T 3G is the Telstra version. It will be not be "blocked" from the Internet service, but it will cause them to activate an appropriate monthly charge to your account. In the case of a prepaid plan, they will mostly likely block you completely when you use a smartphone device. This isn't me guessing at it, this is fact. If you try to use a smartphone, even if it is not an AT&T branded phone, on their network, they CAN and WILL update your account accordingly.
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1. It is prepaid. They cannot make changes to your account on prepaid. They can only block the internet. On postpaid, they won't know. Lots of people are using unbranded phones on the postpaid featurephone data plan. This has been happening for a while.
2. Non-branded ATT smartphones work on the prepaid $50 plan. Been tested and reported on. People are using the Samsung Galaxy S2 on there even. Although, speeds may be throttled.
Yes, there are databases of devices available. ATT doesn't care or look at them though.
So, OP. If you do get a ATT 3g HD2, you can use it on the prepaid or postpaid plan. Prepaid might be throttled, but you won't know for sure until you try it. If you use the t-mobile version you will only get edge speeds.
I am getting mixed answers here and confused. Based on my reserach from other websites including HowardForums, it is my understanding that if I have a TMOUS HD2 and use it on AT&T $50 Prepaid plan, I will be able to use unlimited data but on EDGE speed. 3G speed won't work because TMOUS HD2 is not compatible with AT&T's 3G broadcast frequency. In addition, if I were on the ATT $50 prepiad plan and put the SIM card into an iPhone, the data will not work at all (not even EDGE), however AT&T will NOT automatically add the cheapest data plan to my account since I am using the iPhone.
Please correct me if I am wrong about my understanding above...
Zythyr said:
I am getting mixed answers here and confused. Based on my reserach from other websites including HowardForums, it is my understanding that if I have a TMOUS HD2 and use it on AT&T $50 Prepaid plan, I will be able to use unlimited data but on EDGE speed. 3G speed won't work because TMOUS HD2 is not compatible with AT&T's 3G broadcast frequency. In addition, if I were on the ATT $50 prepiad plan and put the SIM card into an iPhone, the data will not work at all (not even EDGE), however AT&T will NOT automatically add the cheapest data plan to my account since I am using the iPhone.
Please correct me if I am wrong about my understanding above...
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For a prepaid account, yes, all of what you said above is true.
Zythyr said:
I am getting mixed answers here and confused. Based on my reserach from other websites including HowardForums, it is my understanding that if I have a TMOUS HD2 and use it on AT&T $50 Prepaid plan, I will be able to use unlimited data but on EDGE speed. 3G speed won't work because TMOUS HD2 is not compatible with AT&T's 3G broadcast frequency. In addition, if I were on the ATT $50 prepiad plan and put the SIM card into an iPhone, the data will not work at all (not even EDGE), however AT&T will NOT automatically add the cheapest data plan to my account since I am using the iPhone.
Please correct me if I am wrong about my understanding above...
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Correct. If you use unbranded/non-ATT phones. The internet will also work, although may be throttled. Most ATT phones will have the internet blocked, unless you pay extra for it.
If I get T-Mobile's $70 unlimited talk text and high speed data plan, will my I get throttled? Will I be getting 3G speeds for a long for the whole month or will it get throttled down to GPRS ?
Zythyr said:
If I get T-Mobile's $70 unlimited talk text and high speed data plan, will my I get throttled? Will I be getting 3G speeds for a long for the whole month or will it get throttled down to GPRS ?
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T-Mobile doesn't pull that same shady crap like AT&T does. You are allowed to use any phone you want on their network without having to worry about your speeds or data plan changing. I'm using a T-mobile branded HD2 on a plan I've had with them for years. My plan is still the same $50 I was paying when I first ran away from AT&T. I've never once been forced to change my plan for anything. I think you'll find that T-Mobile is a MUCH more friendly and open atmosphere than AT&T. Once you've dealt with them for a while, you'll understand why nearly every T-Mobile customer hates the proposed AT&T takeover. Most of us switched to T-Mobile to get away from AT&T's nearly evil practices. Also, you will only get 3G speeds on T-Mobile if your HD2 is T-Mobile branded. You do not have to pay extra for 3G or "4G" speeds with them. Their unlimited data plans do get throttled when you hit 5GB of data, but most users will never get that far. If you have a link to the plan details you are referring to, I can give you a much better run down of what to expect.
EDIT: Here's another cool thing about being on T-Mobile - they actually care about making you happy as a customer. Yesterday, I got a coupon in the mail with my statement. It was for 50% off any accessories in their stores. That isn't to say that I'm going to use it, since I don't shop in their stores, but it is still a nice gesture. There is also another separate piece of mail heading out to current customers that is a $25 gift card for use in any of their stores. This type of thing is pretty typical of them. So, let's break it down then, shall we?
With T-mobile, you get faster data, better customer service, reliable call connections, cheaper bills, and all of this with a company that isn't AT&T.
Zythyr said:
If I get T-Mobile's $70 unlimited talk text and high speed data plan, will my I get throttled? Will I be getting 3G speeds for a long for the whole month or will it get throttled down to GPRS ?
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Are you talking about the $70 prepaid plan? That plan has a 5gb cap, then it is throttled. The 5GB of data are unthrottled and can do "4g" speeds if you have a "4g" phone.
The postpaid service lets you pick some MB, 2GB, 5GB, or 10GB then throttled.
If you get the prepaid plan. You can buy the refill cards online like at callingmart.com They have monthly coupons by e-mail for 10% off. This brings the monthly total to about $63/month.
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Are you talking about the $70 prepaid plan? That plan has a 5gb cap, then it is throttled. The 5GB of data are unthrottled and can do "4g" speeds if you have a "4g" phone.
The postpaid service lets you pick some MB, 2GB, 5GB, or 10GB then throttled.
If you get the prepaid plan. You can buy the refill cards online like at callingmart.com They have monthly coupons by e-mail for 10% off. This brings the monthly total to about $63/month.
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So after 5GB, they will throttle it? What are the speeds after throttling? Does it go down to EDGE or GPRS?
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So after 5GB, they will throttle it? What are the speeds after throttling? Does it go down to EDGE or GPRS?
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About 80-100KBps, or roughly EDGE speeds.
slow as dog ****
i past my 5gb the other day and i can tell you now its slow as dog ****,i use my htc sensation to tether my laptop i forgot not to be downloading movies stupid me now when on xda from laptop the pictures in threads that people post take all day to display i will never past my 5gb again

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