I send a nice email to SE support asking them what gives, and complaining about their poor customer service. Their response:
oh, and i took out my last name, it seriously said Dear [last name], no Mr or even my first name LOL
Dear [Last Name] ,
Thank you for contacting Sony Ericsson Xperia™ Support.
In regards to your email, on behalf of Sony Ericsson Mobility we want to thank you for putting our products to proof and making them your Smartphone of choice when you decided to take interest on this device, we understand that our scheduled plans after months of waiting have been postponed for the end of October of year 2010. Sony Ericsson Mobility has taken a lot of interest in promoting this product therefore we strive on making progress as time goes, with this new OS Android 1.6, and our expected to launch version 2.1
Our company has been in the manufacture industry for almost a century and we have lasted that long for a reason. We will keep making improvements in all of our areas of customer support and material for this particular model. Our website comes equipped with great support and management applications to test and troubleshoot your device software and hardware. Our 1 yr warranty will also guarantee that you have 100% coverage on manufacture flaws and software issues. Below I have attached as a reminder about what we have been working on to improve the software of our line of Xperia models:
1- Optimized Hardware Speed.
2- Support for more screen sizes and resolutions.
3- Revamped user interface.
4- New browser user interface and HTML5 support.
5- New contact list.
6- Better white/black ratio for backgrounds.
7- Improved Google Maps 3.1.2
8- Microsoft Exchange support.
9- Built in Flash support for camera.
10- Digital zooms.
11- Motion Event class enhanced to track multi-touch screen.
12- Improved virtual keyboard.
13- Bluetooth.
14- Live Wallpapers.
15- HD video recording as per the same execution as Sony Ericsson Vivaz™
16- Wireless home connectivity via DLNA
17- Improvements to signature applications Timescape™ and Mediascape to make them even smarter and richer.
As part of Sony Ericsson's commitment to excellent customer service, we offer a wide variety of mobile products to suit your lifestyle. If you require more information, or have any other questions, please visit our website at SonyEricsson.com/Xperia or call us at 1-877-7XPERIA.
Best regards,
Jason
Your Sony Ericsson Xperia™ Support Representative
Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications
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©Copyright 2001-2008. Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications. All rights reserved.
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i dont think we will ever get a serious response from anyone -.-
I wonder if I can return the phone under warranty because 1.6 is "faulty software" lol.
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All companies use templates.
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Multi touch?
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All companies use templates.
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This
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Multi touch?
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"11- Motion Event class enhanced to track multi-touch screen."
Exactly what I was wondering.
And flash for the camera?
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MULTI TOUCH?
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Guys, if you can't tell that's fake, I've lost all hope in these forums.
iead1 - what makes you so sure it's fake??...
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iead1 - what makes you so sure it's fake??...
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Let's see... the incredibly terrible grammar, spelling mistakes, unprofessional abbreviations, and a list of "improvements" that read like a fanboy's wet dream? Those don't ring any warning bells? How about the "Copyright 2001-2008"?
I'm pretty sure if SE was sending out official form emails to users, they would use spell check and proper grammar.
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Let's see... the incredibly terrible grammar, spelling mistakes, unprofessional abbreviations, and a list of "improvements" that read like a fanboy's wet dream? Those don't ring any warning bells? How about the "Copyright 2001-2008"?
I'm pretty sure if SE was sending out official form emails to users, they would use spell check and proper grammar.
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atleast the "Copyright 2001-2008" part should have been correct...!!
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October will pass and nothing will happen!
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atleast the "Copyright 2001-2008" part should have been correct...!!
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I sent them a mail before and that one didn't have the copyright corrected either... It said 2001-2008...
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I sent them a mail before and that one didn't have the copyright corrected either... It said 2001-2008...
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then maybe SE is really irresponsible and careless.
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I sent them a mail before and that one didn't have the copyright corrected either... It said 2001-2008...
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Well, that's one point towards its authenticity.
Still, I can't get over the amount of grammar mistakes... (I teach English.)
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Well, that's one point towards its authenticity.
Still, I can't get over the amount of grammar mistakes... (I teach English.)
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Mine was in Dutch, didn't contain any mistakes, although they did construct some very unusual and weird sentences...
Edit: after reading the first post again, that can't possibly be a template ...i mean regards? sony ericsson mobility? since when did SE start doing transport?
On top of that, the correspondent gavee his first AND last name in my mail.
Edit nr 2: just found 1 spelling mistake.
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Mine was in Dutch, didn't contain any mistakes, although they did construct some very unusual and weird sentences...
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well then it means that one template was created in some language which was the translated using some translating software causing the grammatical mistakes...!!
Wow SE....!!
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Let's see... the incredibly terrible grammar, spelling mistakes, unprofessional abbreviations, and a list of "improvements" that read like a fanboy's wet dream? Those don't ring any warning bells? How about the "Copyright 2001-2008"?
I'm pretty sure if SE was sending out official form emails to users, they would use spell check and proper grammar.
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People will grab on to their dreams and they wont let go. Haha
7- Improved Google Maps 3.1.2???
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Maps is already on 4.5.x, does make sense, I'ts a Sony 'update'....
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Currently X10 has entered the Semi`s and its pitted against Samsung Galaxy S ..
Please vote for X10 and lets take it to winner Circle...
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Vote Here : http://www.fonearena.com/blog/23287...msung-galaxy-s-nokia-n900-beats-palm-pre.html
I'm satisfied with it but I'm not sure it deserves to be first ... due to 1.6 and sonys attitude
hell no!
i love it, but i recon I'd love another phone even more
Why on earth would i even vote this phone to come 10th?
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Because the galaxy s is a pos, the gps doesn't even work
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The X10 itself is a Great Phone the Problem is just the SE and their Devs, they are to dumb to make a running 2.1 /65k Xd), they should fire all and call the XDA Devs they are 100 times better. Such a great Phone but such a outdated Software.
Vote for the x10 for sure. SE may have done a terrible job keeping this fine piece of hardware up to date but given time I'm sure the devs here will fix that. With 1.6 on the x10 we are not seeing its full potential.
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I voted for the galaxy s
Bad time to put that up this morning if you want ppl to vote for the x10!!!
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I voted for the galaxy s
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Haha so did I!
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Haha so did I!
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As did I, galaxy s is much better.
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I voted for X10 because Galaxy S doesn't deserve my vote.
Samsung phones are crap.
Yeah I voted for the Galaxy S because Samsung NEVER delays updates (assuming they even update their phones).
http://www.gsmarena.com/froyo_update_for_samsung_i9000_galaxy_s_delayed_until_october-news-1948.php
Oh wait...
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Currently X10 has entered the Semi`s and its pitted against Samsung Galaxy S ..
Please vote for X10 and lets take it to winner Circle...
Vote Here : http://www.fonearena.com/blog/23287...msung-galaxy-s-nokia-n900-beats-palm-pre.html
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Are you a moron? What's wrong with you SE fanboys? You can't find anything wrong with SE! And what a day to come up with this stupid thread!
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jayman1986 said:
Are you a moron? What's wrong with you SE fanboys? You can't find anything wrong with SE! And what a day to come up with this stupid thread!
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I get the feeling the Galaxy S fanboys are saying the exact same thing. Believe it or not, some of us actually like our phone the way it is right now.
Again: http://www.gsmarena.com/froyo_update_for_samsung_i9000_galaxy_s_delayed_until_october-news-1948.php
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I get the feeling the Galaxy S fanboys are saying the exact same thing. Believe it or not, some of us actually like our phone the way it is right now.
Again: http://www.gsmarena.com/froyo_update_for_samsung_i9000_galaxy_s_delayed_until_october-news-1948.php
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The same SGS fanboys that can flash a custom froyo ROM on their phones
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The same SGS fanboys that can flash a custom froyo ROM on their phones
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Well apparently we should all be happy with our 1.6, despite when buying in April we were promised an update "very soon"
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The same SGS fanboys that can flash a custom froyo ROM on their phones
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True (good point actually. That slipped my mind ) but I do find it ironic that some people are voting for the SGS (most likely) just because the X10 got a delayed update.
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True (good point actually. That slipped my mind ) but I do find it ironic that people are voting for the SGS (most likely) just because the X10 got a delayed update.
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Correction: persistently delayed update. Im not a legal expert but personally I feel that I made a purchase on a product that was falsely advertised. X10 is great on paper but why advertise the 2.1 update if they can't delivery it until October.
Also do you not find it slightly annoying that the post on SE blog regarding update was made this morning (23rd), and delayed by weeks again when most people were expecting the update this week. Surely they knew this weeks ago?
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Correction: persistently delayed update. Im not a legal expert but personally I feel that I made a purchase on a product that was falsely advertised. X10 is great on paper but why advertise the 2.1 update if they can't delivery it until October.
Also do you not find it slightly annoying that the post on SE blog regarding update was made this morning (23rd), and delayed by weeks again when most people were expecting the update this week. Surely they knew this weeks ago?
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It's not really persistantly delayed. It was set for Q4 this year, got pushed forward to Q3 then went back to Q4. Shuffled is the word I would use
Still...I would really like to know what on earth went wrong...
Don't get me wrong, I think SE are a bunch of twats (can they even crack their own bootloader? They should give the devs some help and we would have CM6 running in no time), but I still like the phone the way it is. It suits my needs and I can't ask for more than that.
And yes it's very annoying that they have to break the news to us while everyone is waiting for the update that was supposed to go live any second now
The X10 will reach its end-of-life with AT&T on 3/6/11. Android Central has an article on this information.
With that news, I find it hard to believe that AT&T will release any X10 updates from Sony Ericsson. They'll probably just keep its users on 1.6 and be done with it.
XDA is the only hope for U.S. X10 owners!
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The X10 will reach its end-of-life with AT&T on 3/6/11. Android Central has an article on this information.
With that news, I find it hard to believe that AT&T will release any X10 updates from Sony Ericsson. They'll probably just keep its users on 1.6 and be done with it.
XDA is the only hope for U.S. X10 owners!
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I doubt the accuracy of the article. The X10 was released to AT&T in August.
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I doubt the accuracy of the article. The X10 was released to AT&T in August.
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The article includes screen shots with dates shown.
If real enough, it's bye-bye X10 for AT&T.
Sucks.
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The article includes screen shots with dates shown.
If real enough, it's bye-bye X10 for AT&T.
Sucks.
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Well AT&T sucks more than SE. Not sure why they are delaying the 2.1 update for the handsets. Thank god I flashed the x10a world generic from here!
LoL they totally fked over x10 in america. But don't worry.. rogers isn't doing much better. Except how they managed to get us 2.1. Which none of us even use.
I'm kind of suffering this issue I'm with Claro. Guatemala and they will never release even 2.1 update.. If I had stick with them I'll be in 1.6 forever.... They aren't gonna release 2.1 .... That's why I love Xda ....!!!! Because of the updates ...
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The X10 will reach its end-of-life with AT&T on 3/6/11. Android Central has an article on this information.
With that news, I find it hard to believe that AT&T will release any X10 updates from Sony Ericsson. They'll probably just keep its users on 1.6 and be done with it.
XDA is the only hope for U.S. X10 owners!
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Could you link that article? I'm almost 100% sure they mean 3rd June and not 6th March... which is still a short period, but still better than March
Edit: Yup, looks to be true. March it is.
I was on the phone with AT&T for an hour today. I cant believe I am reading this after what she said. The good news is AT&T has now paid me the $75 rebate I got for "buying this phone".
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I doubt the accuracy of the article. The X10 was released to AT&T in August.
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Still doubt this?? I guess that's what happens when two companies who care as little about their customers as these two do team up...
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I'm kind of suffering this issue I'm with Claro. Guatemala and they will never release even 2.1 update.. If I had stick with them I'll be in 1.6 forever.... They aren't gonna release 2.1 .... That's why I love Xda ....!!!! Because of the updates ...
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If you like xda updates, then why don't you stop waiting on your lousy service provider and update yourself to 2.1 here on xda? The great part is once you update your phone, you won't have to worry about your cell phone company blocking you from future Xperia X10 updates anymore.
It is easy and safe to do. Just click on the link below, and follow the steps for X10i_2_0_A_0_504_GLOBAL (this version is rootable, if you decide to do so in the future)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683793
Make sure you use Backup and Restore to backup your system and contacts to your sdcard before you start, and then restore your data when start up your 2.1 updated X10.
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If you like xda updates, then why don't you stop waiting on your lousy service provider and update yourself to 2.1 here on xda? The great part is once you update your phone, you won't have to worry about your cell phone company blocking you from future Xperia X10 updates anymore.
It is easy and safe to do. Just click on the link below, and follow the steps for X10i_2_0_A_0_504_GLOBAL (this version is rootable, if you decide to do so in the future)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683793
Make sure you use Backup and Restore to backup your system and contacts to your sdcard before you start, and then restore your data when start up your 2.1 updated X10.
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Thanks for you advice but i´ve done that already since mid November... i was just saying how dissapointing it is for this service providers to not give the proper updates to their customers....
Anyways thanks again...
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Thanks for you advice but i´ve done that already since mid November... i was just saying how dissapointing it is for this service providers to not give the proper updates to their customers....
Anyways thanks again...
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I completely agree, man. I'm using AT&T, and I'm in the exact same situation as you are!! Even worse still, AT&T block users from installing apps not downloaded directly from the official market, giving us even more reason to ditch their crappy branded firmware and flash with global/world firmware.
It seems to me like these two companies should never have teamed up...they both seem to hate their customers more than any company I've ever seen in my life!!!
I dont think AT&T is cutting the X10 just yet. Its too soon.
I don't really mind if AT&T does axe the X10. I've debranded and rooted my X10, effectively removing myself from under AT&T's thumb. I think Android is going to get more love in the very near future though. If the Verizon iPhone is indeed announced on Jan 11, AT&T will experience such a mass exodus that they'll have to change their strategy. The loss of iPhone exclusivity will force AT&T to provide at least a semblance of support for its remaining customers. It would have to release the Arc and other Gingerbread phones to survive.
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Um, shouldn't it read "November 2010"
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There's a reason why it's being axed You'll find out why from the MWC 2011 press release Hopefully its good news to some of you...
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Um, shouldn't it read "November 2010"
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lmao
My question is this:
What happens if I have to claim insurance?? Do I get a captivate?? I don't want a captivate, and that moto is a friggin' piece of dog ****!! I want an epic if I have to claim....it's the same price
BTW, the Verizon iPhone announcement is tomorrow (1/11/11)....they just mentioned it on the news as I was typing this lol
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Not this again...
Unless you're talking about ATT, or anyone for that matter, releasing 2.2+, its not really great news here. The only thing you could mean by this is one of the new models being subsidized by them.
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"Good news" meaning "it's time to move on"? Those kind of news?
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Are you talking Arc?
I emailed se customer support with various questions and reply below in screen shot.
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Erm..... Read a bit in Xperia X8 General - we already had this a few times....
Old news
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Erm..... Read a bit in Xperia X8 General - we already had this a few times....
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Oh the only one I could find is in polish. Well I just uploaded screenshot in English which is what they emailed me back. I'm really disappointed though as x8 is capable of alot. More than se give us. Real shame.
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But we have custom Floyo (and other roms) and soon a dualtouch/multitouch because bootloader gets cracked (<-I hope xD)
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But we have custom Floyo (and other roms) and soon a dualtouch/multitouch because bootloader gets cracked (<-I hope xD)
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I know I use mini-cm personally I think its great. I love x8 compared to my old wildfire. I really hope we get dt/mt so many games I want to play
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Sony's devs SUCK..Bigtime...It looks like XDA is going to make us software and also, crack that bootloader...Never gonna buy from sony....SHAME SONY, Cheers XDA
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Sony's devs SUCK..Bigtime...It looks like XDA is going to make us software and also, crack that bootloader...Never gonna buy from sony....SHAME SONY, Cheers XDA
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They said they would keep updating 2.1 but its so out of date what's the point. I would be satisfied with multi touch or dual touch but no! This is my first se for a while, and the only thing stopping me going back to my HTC wildfire is that x8 has better screen res, gpu and CPU
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Fuc&*%, thats bool****...
This can be read easier...
@greatapo... lol, +1 to what you said
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Fuc&*%, thats bool****...
This can be read easier...
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Sorry forgot to rotate it. Saved me a job thanks
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"X8 was made as a single touch phone and it will stay like this"...WTF??? What is it a tradition and they don't want to change it??? They have nothing to say... they only want money, they want us to buy their new phones with...oh my god... they will have multi touch!!!! Fuc*%^ers... SE has some nice phones. That's the only thing it has....
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"X8 was made as a single touch phone and it will stay like this"...WTF??? What is it a tradition and they don't want to change it??? They have nothing to say... they only want money, they want us to buy their new phones with...oh my god... they will have multi touch!!!! Fuc*%^ers... SE has some nice phones. That's the only thing it has....
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I replied and asked why they won't support either 2.2 froyo or mt/dt and awaiting response.
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Well all we can do now is reply to "No multiouch/no Froyo" e-mails with links to Gingerbread and multitouch driver development thread...
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Well all we can do now is reply to "No multiouch/no Froyo" e-mails with links to Gingerbread and multitouch driver development thread...
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It still wouldn't make them listen, once they have sold the product they don't care period. Look how long it took them to bring 2.1 eclair to x8
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It still wouldn't make them listen, once they have sold the product they don't care period. Look how long it took them to bring 2.1 eclair to x8
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I agree, that wouldn't force them to make official MT/Froyo updates but at least we can laugh in their face because we have something they don't want us to have on our phones and they can't do anything...
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I agree, that wouldn't force them to make official MT/Froyo updates but at least we can laugh in their face because we have something they don't want us to have on our phones and they can't do anything...
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well, i think SE want to lure the xda devs to crack the bootloader, so they can sue the devs, just like geohot.
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It still wouldn't make them listen, once they have sold the product they don't care period. Look how long it took them to bring 2.1 eclair to x8
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well i think its for us, the customer, because they dont want a buggy rom to be used by us, so they research the bugs in the new firmware for a long time. CMIIW
HTC gave up on updateing small HTC Tattoo long time ago, and now there is alot of GREAT roms that works way better then original HTC Sence rom. Froyo and Gingerbread. Hope that same thing would happen to X8 and we'll see few great roms based on Froyo or Gingerbread.
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well i think its for us, the customer, because they dont want a buggy rom to be used by us, so they research the bugs in the new firmware for a long time. CMIIW
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There is no reason not for them to make froyo for x8 other less powerfull hardware has had it a long time, se just can't be bothered. Look at mini-cm, floyo they run fine, yes they have bugs but remember they are ports from different handsets
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we've allready knew it lol ...but the X8 developer would make hard work for it
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/comscore-android-dominates-market-verizon-iphone-4-boosts-apple/
Nice find. I noticed that under manufacturer sales they said nothing about HTC?
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Nice find. I noticed that under manufacturer sales they said nothing about HTC?
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That had me puzzled as well.
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That had me puzzled as well.
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Those seem like overall US mobile phone sales - dumb phones included. Otherwise how could Samsung and LG take up such huge chunks of the market? HTC pretty much only sells smartphones and compared to Apple, they don't sell that much either. They probably only make up a very marginal portion of the overal mobile phone market.
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Those seem like overall US mobile phone sales - dumb phones included. Otherwise how could Samsung and LG take up such huge chunks of the market? HTC pretty much only sells smartphones and compared to Apple, they don't sell that much either. They probably only make up a very marginal portion of the overal mobile phone market.
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You are the biggest hater if any android phone.
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You are the biggest hater if any android phone.
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So that's why I own both a EVO and a Nexus One with plans to buy a Nexus S? I just stated what's likely to be the truth. Do you really hate the fact that Apple likely outsells every other smartphone OEM that much to post a reply like that? Who cares if Apple sells more. I was just answering someones curiosity.
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You are the biggest hater if any android phone.
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So that's why I own both a EVO and a Nexus One with plans to buy a Nexus S? I just stated what's likely to be the truth. Do you really hate the fact that Apple likely outsells every other smartphone OEM that much to post a reply like that? Who cares if Apple sells more. I was just answering someones curiosity.
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I'm too lazy to confirm right now but most likely Apple sells more phones than any single company in America. That just means Apple makes more money and has the biggest balls on the block when it comes to bragging rights. We all know how Steve Jobs love to brag about the size of his balls compared to everyone else when it comes to press conferences.
Now you can based your purchase decision on ball size or you can get the phone that you feel will suit you. The evo suited me when I purchased it and the evo 3d looks like it will suit me next. I guess that means I love Taiwanese balls over old american hippy's balls? O' Well.
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Do you really hate the fact that Apple likely outsells every other smartphone OEM that much to post a reply like that?
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apple outsells everyone else so much that they're #3.
cnstarz said:
apple outsells everyone else so much that they're #3.
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Hmmm... keyword being smartphones. If you include dumb phones then their 3. In fact, they don't even sell dumb phones.
Award Tour said:
Hmmm... keyword being smartphones. If you include dumb phones then their 3. In fact, they don't even sell dumb phones.
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what makes you think they're including dumbphones in the numbers when they're specifically talking about smartphones??
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I would argue that the .2 increase to Apple wasn't really anything to do with Verizon.
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what makes you think they're including dumbphones in the numbers when they're specifically talking about smartphones??
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You really think LG holds 30% of the US smartphone market? Plus look at the titles Einstein.
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Award Tour said:
You really think LG holds 30% of the US smartphone market? Plus look at the titles Einstein.
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where the **** do you see LG on this picture?
for **** sake, we're talking about SMARTPHONE market. where the hell is your head???
cnstarz said:
where the **** do you see LG on this picture?
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There are two charts... one is OS share and one is OEM sales. You know... the thing we were talking about.
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Award Tour said:
There are two charts... one is OS share and one is OEM sales. You know... the thing we were talking about.
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quoted directly from the link:
Google’s Android operating system leads the US smartphone market by a significant margin
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Last November, handsets loaded with Android came in with the second largest share of the smartphone market, with 26 percent, according to comScore’s count.
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YOU are talking about OEMs. WE are talking about android and other os's... the SMARTPHONE market...
cnstarz said:
quoted directly from the link:
YOU are talking about OEMs. WE are talking about android and other os's... the SMARTPHONE market...
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Look at what I was replying to. Google makes up 3x% of the market split by all the OEMs (Samsung, HTC, Motor, LG, etc.), Apple's 2x% is made up by just Apple. Someone asked where's HTC in the OEM share chart and I responded by saying that their individual share is probably insignificant in overall mobile phone sales. Apple's isn't, and that's why their 2x% share is a much bigger business success than any Android commited OEM. Not to mention that they get a large cut from itune app and media sales.
Next time put your emotions to the side and read what you're responding to.
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I don't care who's right.. that made me lol
Award Tour said:
Hmmm... keyword being smartphones. If you include dumb phones then their 3. In fact, they don't even sell dumb phones.
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IPhone is a dumb phone for dummies!!!!
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novanosis85 said:
IPhone is a dumb phone for dummies!!!!
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I laugh at all the iPhone fanbois that swore when the iPhone hit VZW - their numbers would dominate.
Wishful thinking at best - at worst, complete denial.
Anyone else have any concerns with Huawei? I really hope Google did their due diligence here...
http://www.cnet.com/news/lawmakers-to-u-s-companies-dont-buy-huawei-zte/
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Anyone else have any concerns with Huawei? I really hope Google did their due diligence here...
http://www.cnet.com/news/lawmakers-to-u-s-companies-dont-buy-huawei-zte/
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The OS is pure android...straight from Google...
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Anyone else have any concerns with Huawei? I really hope Google did their due diligence here...
http://www.cnet.com/news/lawmakers-to-u-s-companies-dont-buy-huawei-zte/
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Do you think google is any better lol? They both are same crap.
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The OS is pure android...straight from Google...
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Have you checked google privacy? They keep track even when you go pee
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Do you think google is any better lol? They both are same crap.
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Have you checked google privacy? They keep track even when you go pee
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I trust Google more than China... Google is fairly open with their privacy policy, setting up hardware backdoors for a nation state is an entirely different story.
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The OS is pure android...straight from Google...
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That doesn't necessarily mean anything. If you go back and look at the Lenovo situation their spyware was in the bios, so even if you formatted the hdd and started with an entirely fresh install of windows it would just reload itself in. Point being, there are ways of back-dooring this type of thing.
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I trust Google more than China... Google is fairly open with their privacy policy, setting up hardware backdoors for a nation state is an entirely different story.
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FWIW: All Motorola phones since last year are also from China. Including Nexus 6, and MotoX. I'm not aware of any security issues with these....
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I trust Google more than China... Google is fairly open with their privacy policy, setting up hardware backdoors for a nation state is an entirely different story.
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Lol are you kidding???
Open privacy policy - means they copy paste all their customer data to NSA?
If anything, I would trust Chinese more than US when it comes to privacy.
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cam30era said:
FWIW: All Motorola phones since last year are also from China. Including Nexus 6, and MotoX. I'm not aware of any security issues with these....
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Most electronics I think for that matter are either manufactured in China or made with a majority of Chinese parts. At least Motorola is a US based company HQ'd in Illionis and Huawei is HQ'd in China. Their founder was a former deputy director of the People's Liberation Army engineering corp, so the company had, at least at one point, stroing ties to the Chinese government.
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Lol are you kidding???
Open privacy policy - means they copy paste all their customer data to NSA?
If anything, I would trust Chinese more than US when it comes to privacy.
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I don't know, Google looks pretty good to me.
https://www.eff.org/who-has-your-back-government-data-requests-2014
Edit for 2015: Still appears to be doing quite well according to the EFF.
https://www.eff.org/who-has-your-back-government-data-requests-2015#google-report
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At least Motorola is a US based company HQ'd in Illionis.
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Actually it's not a US company anymore. It is a wholly owned subsidiary of Lenovo.
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Actually it's not a US company anymore. It is a wholly owned subsidiary of Lenovo.
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Ah thats right, forgot about that. I guess it makes me feel better that its a subsidiary?
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That doesn't necessarily mean anything. If you go back and look at the Lenovo situation their spyware was in the bios, so even if you formatted the hdd and started with an entirely fresh install of windows it would just reload itself in. Point being, there are ways of back-dooring this type of thing.
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I guess. But if you're that paranoid about it I just wouldn't get the phone. I don't keep anything in my phone or do anything that I would care about them having anyway
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Ah thats right, forgot about that. I guess it makes me feel better that its a subsidiary?
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Not at all.
My point is that Nexus 6 and MotoX were OK from a security standpoint, even though they were manufactured in China by a Chinese company. So in all probability, the 6P will not be a concern either.
Thanks to the US Government's poor security, the Chinese Government already knows everything about me they could possibly want to know. So no, I'm not worried
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Thanks to the US Government's poor security, the Chinese Government already knows everything about me they could possibly want to know. So no, I'm not worried
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LOL well said, thanks OPM.
MoNsTeReNeRgY22 said:
Most electronics I think for that matter are either manufactured in China or made with a majority of Chinese parts. At least Motorola is a US based company HQ'd in Illionis and Huawei is HQ'd in China. Their founder was a former deputy director of the People's Liberation Army engineering corp, so the company had, at least at one point, stroing ties to the Chinese government.
I don't know, Google looks pretty good to me.
https://www.eff.org/who-has-your-back-government-data-requests-2014
Edit for 2015: Still appears to be doing quite well according to the EFF.
https://www.eff.org/who-has-your-back-government-data-requests-2015#google-report
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Are you all serious here?
Are you quoting me a Google press release about how many requests to disclose the user data is served by Google as Google sees it?
Before Snowden Google didn't even bother to tell us that their datacenters are all tapped by NSA and now they suddenly became trust worthy?
Holly molly. Forget about any security if you lived in the US.
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Are you all serious here?
Are you quoting me a Google press release about how many requests to disclose the user data is served by Google as Google sees it?
Before Snowden Google didn't even bother to tell us that their datacenters are all tapped by NSA and now they suddenly became trust worthy?
Holly molly. Forget about any security if you lived in the US.
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I think you need to read up on who the EFF is and what they do.
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I think you need to read up on who the EFF is and what they do.
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I think you need to read about PRISM and how all major companies lied aboot everything what they do.
Useless thread anyway.
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Settle down and loosen your Guy Fawkes mask.
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Settle down and loosen your Guy Fawkes mask.
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Never..
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Never..
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