The Epic forum has become too congested with problematic kernals, roms, and even the clockwork mod isn't working the way it should. There are so many threads on getting clockwork mod to work thats its become ridiculous. I believe this needs to be monitored more closely. For example, i look on how to flash clockwork recovery mod, and there are 4 different threads, with 4 different kernals with recovery mods, and 4 different clockwork mod files. Its way too confusing and most of them don't work with the update, or is causing bad things to happen to phones. Nothing is consistent with these kernals, roms, and recoveries. I put this thread in the development section because it all has to do with development of the Epic. Forum just seems congested to me.
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The Epic forum has become too congested with unverified kernals,
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What does it take to have a kernel 'verified'?
roms, and even the clockwork mod isn't working the way it should.
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Koush just released a kernel that made it compatible with our phones yesterday.How 'should' this recovery function?
Works fine for me I can nandroid backup my phone so I can screw around with it and not worry.
There are so many threads on getting clockwork mod to work thats its become ridiculous.
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These are all kernels/roms that will work with clockwork. They needed to add something for it to work and subsequently decided to put that relevant information in the title of their thread because its something that I would personally look for.
I believe this needs to be monitored more closely. For example, i look on how to flash clockwork recovery mod, and there are 4 different threads, with 4 different kernals with recovery mods, and 4 different clockwork mod files.
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No there is one clockwork recovery. There is probably two ways to flash it though one through ODIN and one through clockwork itself.
Its way too confusing and most of them don't work with the update, or is causing bad things to happen to phones.
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if you had questions you should've posted in the relevant thread. What 'bad things' are happening to phones?
Before these files are released they need to be tested and verified
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by whom? lol
, nothing is consistent with these kernals, roms, and recoveries. I put this thread in the development section because it all has to do with development of the Epic.
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this in not relevant to the development of android.
You're new to the whole Android thing, huh? This is what development is.
There is ONE working Clockwork Mod Recovery right now, and Koush himself released it. There is a flashable .zip kernel for the people who had the old version, noobnl version.
There are multiple kernels out because they do different things for the phone.
We also have two versions of root access right now. The one click root method we have stickied at the top is janky and inefficient compared to the kernel root we have.
This is how Android development works, especially until we have some full-fledged ROMs available. Threads like this make it harder for new users to get through this section (Now, when someone searches "Clockwork" or anything related, this completely unhelpful thread comes up). This is not Android development.
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What does it take to have a kernel 'verified'?
Koush just released a kernel that made it compatible with our phones yesterday.How 'should' this recovery function?
Works fine for me I can nandroid backup my phone so I can screw around with it and not worry.
These are all kernels/roms that will work with clockwork. They needed to add something for it to work and subsequently decided to put that relevant information in the title of their thread because its something that I would personally look for.
No there is one clockwork recovery. There is probably two ways to flash it though one through ODIN and one through clockwork itself.
if you had questions you should've posted in the relevant thread. What 'bad things' are happening to phones?by whom? lol
this in not relevant to the development of android.
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+20 amen well said
development..its trial and error...the chefs arent forcing you to flash anything,they arent getting paid either.they are working on this on their free time.if youve got something to contribute,please do so.
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The Epic forum has become too congested with problematic kernals, roms, and even the clockwork mod isn't working the way it should. There are so many threads on getting clockwork mod to work thats its become ridiculous. I believe this needs to be monitored more closely. For example, i look on how to flash clockwork recovery mod, and there are 4 different threads, with 4 different kernals with recovery mods, and 4 different clockwork mod files. Its way too confusing and most of them don't work with the update, or is causing bad things to happen to phones. Nothing is consistent with these kernals, roms, and recoveries. I put this thread in the development section because it all has to do with development of the Epic. Forum just seems congested to me.
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Dude, sometimes ppl can step in **** and still walk on a clean carpet without wiping their feet off first. It's funny how they can just dump on someone when they are merely expressing what they feel about how the forums is. i would have to somewhat agree with you, I've been searching through the **** for over two weeks and still noone has a goddamn real fix for getting a phone to boot into the right recovery mode. I still haven't been able to enjoy not one of these so-called roms as of yet. Even after doing everything to the tee. I have root...but don't think I have permanent root. Tried the fix for that....no happenings. They work hard to make these roms and I really would appreciate it if I could actually use them. I'm a persistant mofo tho...still trying at it...just make it a bit more easier to find what I need to get this **** to work.
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You need to continue to read all the threads pertaining to what you're trying to do instead of getting anxious because you don't know what your doing. Look in general or questions and ask in those threads. All the answers are in these forums. I am only 2 months new to android, came into it without a clue. Didn't know what root was intill I seen an app in the market requiring it for use. Now I've got permanent root clockwork and I've tried all these roms and kernels without a problem. Patients and research is all you need. Filling up a post with explicit frustration won't help you progress.
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cry/complain/whine less and read/research more.
that's my 2 cents for your 2 cents....
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You need to continue to read all the threads pertaining to what you're trying to do instead of getting anxious because you don't know what your doing. Look in general or questions and ask in those threads. All the answers are in these forums. I am only 2 months new to android, came into it without a clue. Didn't know what root was intill I seen an app in the market requiring it for use. Now I've got permanent root clockwork and I've tried all these roms and kernels without a problem. Patients and research is all you need. Filling up a post with explicit frustration won't help you progress.
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Thank you for your input...I too am in the same amount of time as you when it comes to the Epic. Perhaps my issue is...I can't seem to get the searching bit right as I keep running into pretty much the same threads. Yes I do do the research, like I said, been at this for 2 weeks. The problem is the damn phone will not do what it's supposed to do. I am now trying another method and is hoping like hell it works. I wanna give these roms a go around too. As far as being anxious, I got nerve pills for that and I do take them regularly. LOL
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cry/complain/whine less and read/research more.
that's my 2 cents for your 2 cents....
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As for you, I'm not the one crying. And if you read what I said, you'd know that I've been doing my research for 2 weeks. Why are you such an ass when it comes to ppl needing help with something. Did you forget that you wasn't exactly born into this world with a encyclopedia in your hand, was you? Remember? You needed help once before and maybe you got it figured out real quickly. That doen't nessecarily mean that everyone who comes to this forum are capable. SO PLAY NICE!!!
First thing you need is the drivers for your phone, there's several links to get those. You need sdk to do the one click. It needs to be in the sdk folder. After I downloaded sdk I unzipped it to drive c and renamed it android cause it's shorter than the original name. You open it and in the root of that folder is a folder called tools extract the one click here. Same goes for clockwork. Make sure you enable debugging on the phone. And don't mount your sd card. There's a tutorial on what to do with sdk on you tube. Really you don't even need root anymore if you have clockwork cause all the kernels come with root now. Unless you want to use a stock kernel then you use the method I described above. After you one click the clockwork mod you need to turn off your phone and power on holding the volume button down, pressing the camera button and the power button to boot into recovery. Make a back up of your phone and then reboot. Now just download whatever you want, boot into recovery and install. Sdx developers has some tutorials over on they're site as well. Hope this helps. Remember, cussing people just pisses people off, then you will be on your own.
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I've only had this phone and only worked with an android phone for less than a month, so I admit that I am new to the scene...but I will have to disagree to the rant. It took me a while to root my phone and get clockwork. But it wouldn't have happened unless there was the "clutter" of ways to do it. The only mistake I made was assuming that I understood the whole post and skipped ahead. And that's what slowed me down. Personally I don't think there really is much of an issue with the forum. The only issue is some people aren't patient enough to read the whole post and screw up then blame others for their mistake. But what can you say, its human nature. There's also the wiki you can go to and that'll help out, it's all categorized nice and neatly for some to read if the forum is too much.
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Obviously the OP has had enormous difficulty modding his phone. I extend my sympathies, and if there's anything I can do to help down the road, I will certainly try.
However, many if not most of us have had no trouble at all. In my case, I successfully rooted, installed clockworkrecovery, backed up, and flashed the Mixup kernel. No meaningful stumbles along the way, went smoothly.
So, blaming the forum seems rather misplaced. I don't know what's unique about kpkimmel's situation, but it's pretty clear that the problem lies there, not with the forum, information posted here, and the very helpful people assisting.
I'm sure the solution to the poblem would be an easy fix. As long as the the problem explained. The answer could be as simple as doing the 3-button sequence to get into cwm, or just wiping the phone to prep for flashing.
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LMFAO!!!! You sho right...there is an easy solution to the problem and you wouldn't believe how freaking easy it is. Like I've said before, I've been doing the research and everything and nothing seem to work right. I have rooted my phone and have proven it so by doing the tests. But the damn thing would not go into Clockwork recovery no matter how many times I tried. Until last night on another website, the answer was plain and simple as big as day. When I did as instructed, lo and behold, it worked....I have Clockwork recovery. I can use the roms now. Gonna go post it in the 'Epic 4G Android Development.' Don't know why it hasn't been made know to those having this problem in the first place. Woulda save a bunch of time and headaches.
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Hi, my phone now is working and all ( the is it bricked post) Thanks guys
Here is the new problem...I would like to go to 2.2.1 ( the passimg.zip is 2.2) is there a way to update without unlocking bootloader.
I tried Androot and superoneclick....Androot gives me the Fugu message and SuperOneClick says its Rooted...but when I go to rom manager or other apps that need superuser...
I get this message : An error occured while attemting to run privileged commands!
So basically Root isn't working.
Also, when trying to install Cyan cm6...Rom manager reboots...but I get the Triangle with the exclamation point with the green man next to it...
Is it still possible to have my cake and eat it? ( locked phone, with root access so I can install modded roms)
Again...can someone help me with this
Thanks!
You didn't have to make a duplicate post. I already answered one of your questions in the other thread.
Dont make another post next time...
I rooted FRG83D with superoneclick root, But if its not working for ya you will have to unlock the bootloader via fastboot. Then push a custom recovery. With the recovery you can install the su binaries.
Manual root:
http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/...mple-sdk-setup-manual-root-guide-windows.html
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Ok i'll only answer here now for this question:
I don't want to loose my warranty. Hence the softroot way.
I thought of something dunno if its possible:
is there a stock FRG83 image like the FRG33 I just installed....maybe 2.2.1 will be compatible with androot or superoneclick
Thanks
You need to do a few things before you go any further. There are key steps you are leaving out that are just a recipe for disaster. I'll detail them below, in the specific order you should follow them. There shall be no deviation from this list.
1 - Put your phone down. Seriously, stop messing with it. Just quit.
2 - Read the Wiki that you've been linked to, in both threads, several times.
2a - Now that you've read the Wiki, really read the Wiki. Yeah, you skimmed it the first time, I know you did.
2b - Now go read it again. I'm sure you'll notice something new this time.
2c - Now go read the links in the Wiki. Explore those threads.
2d - Those threads that the Wiki links to? They have links in them. Go read those.
3 - Rinse and repeat all steps from 2a to 2d for, oh, about 4 days. During this time you are allowed:
To post general chit chat on the forum. No technical stuff, no help threads, no questions. Just read. If you have questions, you need to read some more.
No more than 3 app installs per day, from the market. Thou shalt not download and install any APKs from any source that is not the Android Market.
To tweak settings on your phone, provided those settings are all done via the touchscreen on your phone. You shall forget the acronym "ADB".
Once you've done that, you'll root your phone in no time, and you won't be worried that you've bricked it. Then, and only then, can you start asking questions.
Why? Because all of your questions right now are answered. You're jumping the gun, and it's obvious you haven't done much research at all. Seriously, go read.
I hate to be mean, but if you want to understand stuff, you need to try and understand it on your own first. You're here looking for solutions (that are already spelled out) to problems that you created (because you didn't read anything). Quit looking for the easy way out. If you want to enjoy your phone and the features of what you're trying to accomplish...put some work in yourself, and stop expecting everyone else to fix everything and spell it out. People here are more than happy to help, but you gotta start helping yourself.
@Soberguy: Thumbs up to you. Couldn't have said it any better.
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@Soberguy: Thumbs up to you. Couldn't have said it any better.
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Thanks, mate. Didn't mean to quote the guy above me, just noticed I did that. Fixed it.
I'm amazed at the patience some folks have. Maybe it was my rough 3 day weekend that's left me a bit short... Appreciate the thanks, all the same.
Ok, I do go a bit fast.
I'll read...it just that I tried the cm7 mod ( i know its experimental) and the phone
would'nt boot.
With the help of the great people on the board, I got my phone working again but on FRG33 (2.2)
My last question was if it was possible ( or someone knows of because Ive checked the net) to root without unlocking ( androot and superoneclick that i know of) if I have FRG33 ( Because Ive been getting permission errors)
Finally, I wanted to know if a FRG83 stock image was available so that I could recover to it without unlocking bootloader. (or any other stock that lets me root without unlock)
I'll unlock the phone as a last option...I'm sorry...And if anyone is pissed at my posts ...well sorry I just taught some of you experts could help.
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Ok, I do go a bit fast.
I'll unlock the phone as a last option...I'm sorry...And if anyone is pissed at my posts ...well sorry I just taught some of you experts could help.
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See? Looking for the easy way out again.
It's not about anyone being pissed or short on patience. Look at how frustrated you are with the situation. You're frustrated. Why? Cause you did it wrong. Why? Cause you didn't read enough first. Even after several suggestions, you still want it done, with help, right now, or you'll sulk about someone pissed and how no one held your hand through it.
Is it possible to do what you want? Absolutely! Pretty easy, too. But if you read and help yourself, you'll better understand how to update in the future, as well as how to root the future update. Or, you'll learn how to root what you have, and flash a pre-rooted stock ROM (yes, those are here as well).
So call me an ass, cool. You did in your mind, that's fine. But really, I'm trying to let you know what will help you the most, and that's having a better understanding of how to prevent a boot loop in the future, or at least how to fix it if it happens. Best of luck, man.
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Here's the deal.
I did a one click root without unlocking the bootloader. Then I installed rom manager and flashed clockwork recovery. Then I did a backup ( both done in rom manager) then I went back into rom manager and installed cyanogenmod 7 and my nexus is now haxored gingerbread. Make sure you do a full wipe before flashing new roms and it'll always work.
I didn't update my radio, my hboot or anything like that. And it all just works and is dead simple. I would suggest trying z4root or universal androot and then downloading rom manager from the market.
How you managed to **** up something so simple is pretty funny dude.
I'm using an at&t band n1 with an smiled. Not the one with super LCD. I heard a rumor that the super LCD n1s have problems with certain mods. You might want to figure out what type of screen you have too.
The cyanogenmod wiki at cyanogenmod.com might help you too.
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OP, you have to learn the hard way. Stop using "newbie" as an excuse.
I was also a "newbie" when I first got my Nexus One in February. Everything about android was new and alien to me. It actually took me a couple of months of lurking in xda and reading up on tutorials before I took the plunge to rooting my phone. And I did not bother anyone on that. I made sure I understood the steps and triple checked every move I made in following instructions even though I did not understand them.
I also was worried about warranty and actually did the manual way of rooting my phone without unlocking the bootloader using some method that involved cutting a piece of plastic from my battery. That was nerve wrecking and no where as simple as the superoneclick thingy you have now. Yet I survived and I did it on my own.
I must admit that you have to be a little bit confident in using computers and have some basic knowledge of typing commands in cmd. But everyone has to start from somewhere.
Seriously if it's too much trouble or too complicated, maybe staying stock or going Iphone is a more comfortable alternative.
I'm actually pretty good with computers...
Also, I have bricked 4 phones (the provider took them back) fooling around...
I could brought this one back ( they didnt check). But I want to learn...I'm pretty impulsif...Anyway so far
With FRG33 z4root works (read thanks)
Now I trying to flash clockwork...( when I download cyan 6 +google apps) it reboots but I get the triangle thingy...I click power volume up ( read that thanks) I get a blue menu...I kinda scared to click an option so I rebooted...I'm trying to use rom manager for updates because its really simple ...anyway
Thats it for tonight All of you guys are nice dudes and I'll learn and will try to help im my own way...I know I'm a newbie that likes short cuts (hell I read all day at my day job...lol) This is fun ( playing with male toys)
Thanks guys!
Well quick background information. I acquired my first samsung continuum 3 weeks ago, bricked it, and had to return it and get another one.
So while i waited for my new phone to arrive in the mail i was reading thread after thread and tutorials and guides to the Android OS, Samsung Continumm, Kernels, ROMS, etc.
Once my phone arrived i had a whole bunch of knowledge about it and successfully Rooted it using SuperOneClick, Flashed CWM into it, and flashed the PeanutButterJelly kernel. Yes Without messing it up again.
Well here are my questions:
1) Where can i find the official adrynalyne's rom for the continuum(yes i used the search button but didnt have much luck.
2) Is there a continuum radio file posted somewhere in the forum? people were talking about it in the forum but nobody can tell me where it is.
3) Could I constantly keep flashing kernels and roms or is there a limit to how many times i can do that?
4) If there happens to be an update from verizon, will rooting,replacing kernels and roms, take away the ability to download it.
Sorry again for the random questions, and if you tell me to use the "Search" option can you at least let me know exactly what to type in so i can find the right answer. Thanks You.
And one more thing, What is your phone set up, as in:Kernel,Rom,any mods, battery saving apps, root-only apps.
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more questions...
1. The ROM is located under the android development section of our forum.
Here's a link to the ROM though: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943402
2. There is no radio file. There has been talk of it because we found out that the Fascinate radio files work with the continuum. We don't have our own though :'(
3. There is no limit besides the amount of ROMs and kernels you want to try.
4. Custom ROMs always in my experience disable the OTA updates that Verizon puts out. All you have to do though is revert back to stock and download the update if you truly want it.
Flashing ROMs and kernals will prevent you from being able to download any Verizon updates.
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more questions...
1. The ROM is located under the android development section of our forum.
Here's a link to the ROM though: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943402
2. There is no radio file. There has been talk of it because we found out that the Fascinate radio files work with the continuum. We don't have our own though :'(
3. There is no limit besides the amount of ROMs and kernels you want to try.
4. Custom ROMs always in my experience disable the OTA updates that Verizon puts out. All you have to do though is revert back to stock and download the update if you truly want it.
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LOL at least they were easy questions and it keeps the continuum board active
Lol, sorry again, well thanks everybody for helping me out and pointing me to the right direction.
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i had clockwork mod but wanted to try amon ra so i flashed it and now cant get rid of it.. anyone know how?
you can use rom manager to flash the latest CWM recovery or if you have the recovery image file you can flash it via flash_image with adb or terminal emulator
the command would be something like
flash_image recovery filename.img
Keep Amon....there is NO good reason to use Clockworkmod.
IMO Amon is a better choice than CWM. I have seen lots of issues with CWM and Rom Manager while Amon RA has had fewer and seems to do a better job. If you are certain you want to switch, go here and follow the directions to get CWM 2.6.0.1
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Keep Amon....there is NO good reason to use Clockworkmod.
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Stay on Amon RA.
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its funny how everyone states its better but doesnt provide any evidence.
flame on
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its funny how everyone states its better but doesnt provide any evidence.
flame on
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The only evidence I can provide is the number of times I had issues with installing roms and had major problems. As soon as I switched to AmonRa all the problems disappeared. Some say the AmonRa clears Dalvik and cache much better. Give it a try.... you can easily switch back and forth.
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The only evidence I can provide is the number of times I had issues with installing roms and had major problems. As soon as I switched to AmonRa all the problems disappeared. Some say the AmonRa clears Dalvik and cache much better. Give it a try.... you can easily switch back and forth.
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I also had problems with cwm flashing new roms/kernels and backing up and restoring. After going to amon ra I haven't had any problems
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I had problems installing roms with cwm. Had a couple of boot loop issues because if it. I don't like to use it. Hey, if cwm works for you, fine, last I checked this was a general forum for everyone to give feedback on their personal experiences.
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its funny how everyone states its better but doesnt provide any evidence.
flame on
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That's a good point. If you don't mind, I'll share a couple things from my limited experience:
1. Amon-Ra allows you to select which partitions to wipe, making flashing new roms much easier and more intuitive.
2. It allows you to select which partitions to include in nandroid backups as well
3. CWM is no longer backward compatible with older types of flash package scripts. I don't entirely understand this, but I needed to flash rooted OTA 3.70 a few times and had to downgrade my CWM.
Sadly, I'm currently unrooted because of a new phone and the stupid GB OTA update. My own stupid fault, but I'm jealous of any custom recovery at this point...
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That's a good point. If you don't mind, I'll share a couple things from my limited experience:
1. Amon-Ra allows you to select which partitions to wipe, making flashing new roms much easier and more intuitive.
2. It allows you to select which partitions to include in nandroid backups as well
3. CWM is no longer backward compatible with older types of flash package scripts. I don't entirely understand this, but I needed to flash rooted OTA 3.70 a few times and had to downgrade my CWM.
Sadly, I'm currently unrooted because of a new phone and the stupid GB OTA update. My own stupid fault, but I'm jealous of any custom recovery at this point...
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1) you can format any partition in CWM
2) you can choose advance restore when doing a nandroid restore
3) this is well explained in Koush's thread regarding amend vs edify scripting
i understand where you're coming from tho, & i'm sorry you have an unrooted device... i'm not sure how i'd handle that if it was me lol
however on the flipside
i was just vaguely making a point that perhaps all these people who claim Amon_ra is sooo much better are often times the same people who claim they've wiped cache/dalvik 18x & are still having problems.
i personally have no problem with either recovery, they both do exactly what they are supposed to. its quite disrespectful to Koush who is an awesome part of the whole picture. Without him supporting & creating CWM for the crazy amount of devices, where would we all be right now? Not to mention he's a huge part of cyanogemod & for everyone to say his recovery is garbage isn't kosher imo.
its personal preference & honestly none of this has anything to do with the OP & the question he had lol
i mean no hard feelings about anything i've said, so i hope nobody takes offense.
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1) you can format any partition in CWM
2) you can choose advance restore when doing a nandroid restore
3) this is well explained in Koush's thread regarding amend vs edify scripting
i understand where you're coming from tho, & i'm sorry you have an unrooted device... i'm not sure how i'd handle that if it was me lol
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Sounds reasonable to me. I never figured out how to do those things with CWM, but I was new to rooting at the time and eventually switched to Amon-Ra
By the way, did the person who started this thread ever figure out how to get back to CWM? Doesn't CWM have PC36IMG.zip that you can download and allow to flash?
Only reason I ever switched to Amon's recovery is for the older script support, and really I don't even use that unless it's for a theme for a rom or something. I'm just too lazy to switch back to CWM lawlz.
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1) you can format any partition in CWM
2) you can choose advance restore when doing a nandroid restore
3) this is well explained in Koush's thread regarding amend vs edify scripting
i understand where you're coming from tho, & i'm sorry you have an unrooted device... i'm not sure how i'd handle that if it was me lol
however on the flipside
i was just vaguely making a point that perhaps all these people who claim Amon_ra is sooo much better are often times the same people who claim they've wiped cache/dalvik 18x & are still having problems.
i personally have no problem with either recovery, they both do exactly what they are supposed to. its quite disrespectful to Koush who is an awesome part of the whole picture. Without him supporting & creating CWM for the crazy amount of devices, where would we all be right now? Not to mention he's a huge part of cyanogemod & for everyone to say his recovery is garbage isn't kosher imo.
its personal preference & honestly none of this has anything to do with the OP & the question he had lol
i mean no hard feelings about anything i've said, so i hope nobody takes offense.
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Right On Brother
drdrewdown said:
1) you can format any partition in CWM
2) you can choose advance restore when doing a nandroid restore
3) this is well explained in Koush's thread regarding amend vs edify scripting
i understand where you're coming from tho, & i'm sorry you have an unrooted device... i'm not sure how i'd handle that if it was me lol
however on the flipside
i was just vaguely making a point that perhaps all these people who claim Amon_ra is sooo much better are often times the same people who claim they've wiped cache/dalvik 18x & are still having problems.
i personally have no problem with either recovery, they both do exactly what they are supposed to. its quite disrespectful to Koush who is an awesome part of the whole picture. Without him supporting & creating CWM for the crazy amount of devices, where would we all be right now? Not to mention he's a huge part of cyanogemod & for everyone to say his recovery is garbage isn't kosher imo.
its personal preference & honestly none of this has anything to do with the OP & the question he had lol
i mean no hard feelings about anything i've said, so i hope nobody takes offense.
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Did you edit this, or did I just miss the latter half the first time reading it?? Very good point, and I'm wondering again if the OP got the help he needed
Yeah, lack of root sucks... I think there's some new exploits coming our way very soon though!
soldierforchrist2 said:
Did you edit this, or did I just miss the latter half the first time reading it?? Very good point, and I'm wondering again if the OP got the help he needed
Yeah, lack of root sucks... I think there's some new exploits coming our way very soon though!
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yea sorry man i was editing as you posted.
i wonder if i'd be tempted to sell my 2.3 evo on ebay then buy one with 2.2 on it lol
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its funny how everyone states its better but doesnt provide any evidence.
flame on
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Because it's already been documented a thousand times on xda. Why reiterate over and over again?
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yea sorry man i was editing as you posted.
i wonder if i'd be tempted to sell my 2.3 evo on ebay then buy one with 2.2 on it lol
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No problem. I was just confused, lol.
Lots of other people have done that... I was "out of my mind" for a while, but it looks like I'll be able to root it again very soon!
It's Dominos Pizza vs. Pizza Hut. Everyone likes Pizza, some like Pizza Hut, most like Dominos. You can't fault either side, but you can't realistically just proclaim your preference is better either.
I used CWM for awhile, I like AR better. That's just me, and for some reason, most people agree. I really don't think it's a case of the blind following the blind.
Most of the heavy hitters use AR. If for no other reason, that's good enough for me.
Starting off, I'm probably posting in the wrong section. Excuse my forum etiquette, but I need help with this because I'm insanely frustrated and in pain (Decided to learn how to exploit the android OS while recovering from my surgery).
So, if you've read past that first part and are still willing to help, thank you.
Moderators: If you absolutely need to move this post, please move it to a section where it will actually get attention and I can get an answer. Thanks.
Anyway, the breakdown of my problem is this;
I wanted to root my new day old Sprint CMDA Nexus S, I've never rooted anything android, and if anything the most I've done with a droid OS is installed it on my old iphone 2g.
So I did some googling and first thing to come up was this guide:
nexusshacks(dotcom)/nexus-s-hacks/how-to-root-nexus-s/
Now, usually I would do a bit more research, but because of the lack of blood in my body I'm doing dumb things, making bad decisions, whatever.
So obviously this guide doesn't work, even a quick skim of the comments shows that, I try to follow this guide-
I followed step "fastboot flash boot rootboot.img" then tried to reboot. It freezes at the google boot logo. This is where I start getting a bit nervous because I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing.
So I think "Well, if I jump over to someone elses tutorial and do that it should overwrite any "root"ing data I've tried to put into the device.
So I jump over to this:
androidadvices(dotcom)/root-sprint-nexus-gingerbread-235-update/3/
It has me install PDANet and it's frozen since on the installing PDAnet to your phone.
I just want to get my Nexus S back to original factory default so I can start fresh from there without a terrible guide.
Can someone please help me get there?
Thanks.
tl;dr:
Bad guide soft bricked my phone and I want to restore it to factory defaults
agnl said:
Starting off, I'm probably posting in the wrong section. Excuse my forum etiquette, but I need help with this because I'm insanely frustrated and in pain (Decided to learn how to exploit the android OS while recovering from my surgery).
So, if you've read past that first part and are still willing to help, thank you.
Moderators: If you absolutely need to move this post, please move it to a section where it will actually get attention and I can get an answer. Thanks.
Anyway, the breakdown of my problem is this;
I wanted to root my new day old Sprint CMDA Nexus S, I've never rooted anything android, and if anything the most I've done with a droid OS is installed it on my old iphone 2g.
So I did some googling and first thing to come up was this guide:
nexusshacks(dotcom)/nexus-s-hacks/how-to-root-nexus-s/
Now, usually I would do a bit more research, but because of the lack of blood in my body I'm doing dumb things, making bad decisions, whatever.
So obviously this guide doesn't work, even a quick skim of the comments shows that, I try to follow this guide-
I followed step "fastboot flash boot rootboot.img" then tried to reboot. It freezes at the google boot logo. This is where I start getting a bit nervous because I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing.
So I think "Well, if I jump over to someone elses tutorial and do that it should overwrite any "root"ing data I've tried to put into the device.
So I jump over to this:
androidadvices(dotcom)/root-sprint-nexus-gingerbread-235-update/3/
It has me install PDANet and it's frozen since on the installing PDAnet to your phone.
I just want to get my Nexus S back to original factory default so I can start fresh from there without a terrible guide.
Can someone please help me get there?
Thanks.
tl;dr:
Bad guide soft bricked my phone and I want to restore it to factory defaults
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Ok I can see you need help but I am inclined to warn you instead. Stop. If you cannot figure out how to root the easiest phone to root then you shouldn't be messing around with your phone. You will end up screwing something up, won't know how to fix it, and come crying here for help. Do yourself some research before you go and ruin your phone.
Yes you posted in the wrong place.
There is a thread in this forum on how to root the nexus s 4g. Rooting is model specific. The T-Mobile Nexus s is different from the sprint, att, Rodgers, o2 etc.
Please please do some more research!
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Thanks for a reply, and I understand I dug a hole.
Now I need to get out of said hole, so if you had any directions of how to dig myself out, that'd be great.
if you can get into fastboot then you are still cool, if not you're gonna have to odin it. I dont actually know where the tar files are, Micheal posted it up but i think they deleted the thread. You should have came to xda first,we have one clicks.
actually rooting is the same across the board. same steps same everything... in fact the one click root version 1 would work on any and all of them, version 2 branches out a bit further due to that it installs cwm.
anyways boot into fastboot, download stock fastboot images from petes thread found here http://wonderly.com/bb/CRESPO4G/OEM/GRJ22IMAGES.zip and flash them all in fastboot.
youll be back on stock grj22 but youll at least be booting.. from there follow a guide for rooting this phone that has you flash cwm (not a prerooted kernel). or be lazy and use my one click root
You sir are a class act. We need a ton more guys like you here at XDA
shabbypenguin said:
actually rooting is the same across the board. same steps same everything... in fact the one click root version 1 would work on any and all of them, version 2 branches out a bit further due to that it installs cwm.
anyways boot into fastboot, download stock fastboot images from petes thread found here http://wonderly.com/bb/CRESPO4G/OEM/GRJ22IMAGES.zip and flash them all in fastboot.
youll be back on stock grj22 but youll at least be booting.. from there follow a guide for rooting this phone that has you flash cwm (not a prerooted kernel). or be lazy and use my one click root
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mikeyinid said:
You sir are a class act. We need a ton more guys like you here at XDA
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+1
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mikeyinid said:
You sir are a class act. We need a ton more guys like you here at XDA
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lol you give me way too much credit mikey but thanks for teh vote of confidence
I have been trying to make sure I take all the correct steps before attempting a root. Some of the software references in the forum have me confused. If someone could help me with these I would very much appreciate it.
Here is a quote from the Icey Faux/Honeylicous thread by the OP:
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Hey bro don't you use the backup feature on HC? I format and re-install at least a few times a week, and google reinstalls all my apps in about ten minutes tops.
Nothing personal, I just don't get some peoples aversion to doing a proper wipe and format between installs. It's not like you lose any of your photos, music, or videos even when following the instructions in the OP.
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1) What is the difference between the android market and the google "app store" that I keep seeing people refer too?
a) what is the reference to "HC" in this quote?
- I have purchased apps from the android market that I would like to keep. I followed some references in other threads and got the Titanium Backup (free version) in hopes that I can backup the entire tablet. Is this what I would use to keep my apps/data and bring it back to the tablet after rooting?
2) I also got the Acer Recovery app. This looks as though it is used to bring the tablet back to stock form. Is that correct?
3) Is the term "root" in reference to gaining root permissions/access to the tablet, and nothing else? (I was under the impression that it was the installation of a ROM)
4) I have 3.2.1 on my tablet. It looks as though at this point in time, the only way I can root is to bring it back to at least 3.2 ot less (reference to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276227&page=11)
5) Any tips on what I should download before the root so that I can keep a backup of the original setup and all of the apps I have purchased?
Thank you for anything you can give.
Ryan
YeeP said:
I have been trying to make sure I take all the correct steps before attempting a root. Some of the software references in the forum have me confused. If someone could help me with these I would very much appreciate it.
Here is a quote from the Icey Faux/Honeylicous thread by the OP:
1) What is the difference between the android market and the google "app store" that I keep seeing people refer too?
a) what is the reference to "HC" in this quote?
- I have purchased apps from the android market that I would like to keep. I followed some references in other threads and got the Titanium Backup (free version) in hopes that I can backup the entire tablet. Is this what I would use to keep my apps/data and bring it back to the tablet after rooting?
2) I also got the Acer Recovery app. This looks as though it is used to bring the tablet back to stock form. Is that correct?
3) Is the term "root" in reference to gaining root permissions/access to the tablet, and nothing else? (I was under the impression that it was the installation of a ROM)
4) I have 3.2.1 on my tablet. It looks as though at this point in time, the only way I can root is to bring it back to at least 3.2 ot less (reference to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276227&page=11)
5) Any tips on what I should download before the root so that I can keep a backup of the original setup and all of the apps I have purchased?
Thank you for anything you can give.
Ryan
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Ryan,
HC=Honeycomb (the version of Android that is currently on your tab).
No difference, in the name for market, some people just use a different term.
2. No it doesn't. It will install CWM which will make a backup of your current ROM which you can flash to go back to original.
3. Root allows you to install CWM which will in turn allow you to flash custom ROMs.
4. Yes you will need to downgrade first, make certain you have everything you need already downloaded and on your external SD card.
5. Read, READ, READ, READ, take notes, and follow instructions to the letter. We certainly don't need another "help, I bricked my tab" thread lol
1) No difference, Google Market/App Store yada yada yada.
a) HC = Honey Comb, it is Googles internal name for their OS from versions 3.x
- If you go to Settings - Privacy, put a check in the boxes for "Back up my data" and "Automatic restore". Doing this alone has been enough for Google to automatically re-install about 99% of my apps.
2) Acer Recovery makes it easier to install the various Recovery images. It does not alone help you get back to "bone stock", but it at least will re-install the stock Recovery image if and when you're ready to go back to the stock ROM.
3) Root is getting root access to the device, which is generally needed to install custom ROMs, so I could see the confusion.
4) Almost right, you'll need to bring it back to 3.0.1 first. Be sure to have already downloaded and installed at least Acer Recovery and IconiaRoot before downgrading, as the Market is flakey as heck when you downgrade to 3.0.1. I followed method 2 in that thread and had 0 issues.
5) Not needed, see my info after 1,a).
kjy2010 said:
Ryan,
HC=Honeycomb (the version of Android that is currently on your tab).
No difference, in the name for market, some people just use a different term.
2. No it doesn't. It will install CWM which will make a backup of your current ROM which you can flash to go back to original.
3. Root allows you to install CWM which will in turn allow you to flash custom ROMs.
4. Yes you will need to downgrade first, make certain you have everything you need already downloaded and on your external SD card.
5. Read, READ, READ, READ, take notes, and follow instructions to the letter. We certainly don't need another "help, I bricked my tab" thread lol
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In reference to your answers:
#3 - Am I correct in saying that I can get root access without applying a new ROM?
#4 - I have an SD card, and it looks as though with the downloads and what not, the tablet is not even using it.
How (I am sure to get a "use search" answer with someone...) do I force the tablet to download these things I need to the SD card?
Do I need an additional SD card to be used for this process only?
I see that you are working on a version of your ROM for 3.2.1, shall I just wait to avoid problems?
#5 - I have been trying to read as many "brick" threads as I can in order to avoid them.
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3) Root is getting root access to the device, which is generally needed to install custom ROMs, so I could see the confusion.
4) Almost right, you'll need to bring it back to 3.0.1 first. Be sure to have already downloaded and installed at least Acer Recovery and IconiaRoot before downgrading, as the Market is flakey as heck when you downgrade to 3.0.1. I followed method 2 in that thread and had 0 issues.
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I did find the IconiaRoot thread by Thor. It looks as though this is the reason for bringing the version back to 3.0.1, true? Not to many usable answers to the questions asked in that thread, that are answered by the OP. I will try and search for people using it and starting their own thread.
This looks to be a Windows piece of software, maybe I can get it to run on my virtual box... or wine... . I guess I could try it on my work machine.
IconiaRoot is the app to actually use the exploit found to root the device and give you root access. Now, the reason for going to 3.0.1 is because the exploit was fixed by Acer is version 3.2. So, the downgrade is needed first so that the exploit is available to root your device.
OMG..
Your worse then most of my girl friends.. ITS ALL QUITE SIMPLE AND EASY
if you are on STOCK FROM ACER.. 3.2 OR ABOVE . you must DOWNGRADE TO GET ROOT..
The best way to do this to date seems to be in the past by Jimmy Dean.. there are links to his threads in nearly every recent bricked or threads similar to yours..
im guessing if you have looked at all the threads about being bricked and still do not understand how to do it..or scared to try .
DO NOT ATTEMPT
MAYBE you should ask a dev if you can send your tablet to them in the mail and them flash it for you.. Would be my best sugestion.. Everyone that flashes anything on there tablet or any ROM BASED Device takes the risk of bricking.. IF you have read other bricking related threads you will see people complain they fallowed all instructions and still ended up bricked.. Maybe to falt of there own they missed or maybe just luck of the Flash..
Good Luck and look for Jimmy Deans post in the d/load he gives a very detailed instructions with step by step pictures. as some of the others do as well..
Thanks for listening to me RANT About my opinion...
xxx the dingy blonde Erica Renee..
fermunky said:
IconiaRoot is the app to actually use the exploit found to root the device and give you root access. Now, the reason for going to 3.0.1 is because the exploit was fixed by Acer is version 3.2. So, the downgrade is needed first so that the exploit is available to root your device.
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Perfect, thanks man.
erica_renee said:
OMG..
Your worse then most of my girl friends.. ITS ALL QUITE SIMPLE AND EASY
if you are on STOCK FROM ACER.. 3.2 OR ABOVE . you must DOWNGRADE TO GET ROOT..
The best way to do this to date seems to be in the past by Jimmy Dean.. there are links to his threads in nearly every recent bricked or threads similar to yours..
im guessing if you have looked at all the threads about being bricked and still do not understand how to do it..or scared to try .
DO NOT ATTEMPT
MAYBE you should ask a dev if you can send your tablet to them in the mail and them flash it for you.. Would be my best sugestion.. Everyone that flashes anything on there tablet or any ROM BASED Device takes the risk of bricking.. IF you have read other bricking related threads you will see people complain they fallowed all instructions and still ended up bricked.. Maybe to falt of there own they missed or maybe just luck of the Flash..
Good Luck and look for Jimmy Deans post in the d/load he gives a very detailed instructions with step by step pictures. as some of the others do as well..
Thanks for listening to me RANT About my opinion...
xxx the dingy blonde Erica Renee..
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Not sure if you ranted to make yourself feel good or show how awesome you are. Either way, this is not my first time to the rodeo, and not my first time on a forum where there are people that want to constantly show how tough they are. I have seen your posts in other threads and know what to expect from you. Because I am new here, I will not use the language I am tempted to with you.
It is so cool that you feel great enough that you can give someone a hard time because they want to make sure they are prepared to do things right the first time. As opposed to the opposite. Maybe because they want to understand how things work and the syntax surrounding the protocol(s).
My opinion on your opinion is to STFU and kiss my ass. mkay?
erica_renee said:
OMG..
The best way to do this to date seems to be in the past by Jimmy Dean.. there are links to his threads in nearly every recent bricked or threads similar to yours..
xxx the dingy blonde Erica Renee..
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Thought we were talking about tablets here ... this whole Jimmy Dean and Links givin me a hankerin for some breakmast
Give thanks to those who need it..
Thanks for such nice words.I do appreciate and value your opinion of me.
All im saying is that if you have read all the threads and post about bricked devices bad flashing stories and the threads on how to do it correctly.. That there is nothing more anyone can do or say to you about this.. Only other option is for someone to do it for you.. I did not mean to offend you in any way.
Its kinda unclear what you expected to get out of starting a thread stating that you read everything good and bad.. about flashing this tablet.. maybe the solution is to go to android sdk site and get better acquainted with the OS on a more personal level.. if you are still not understanding the process .
With that all said..
I do hope you accomplish what your trying to do.I also sent you a Thanks maybe it will make you smile and not be so hateful toward constructive criticize n.
Good Luck..
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<CLIP> Thanks maybe it will make you smile and not be so hateful toward constructive criticize n.
Good Luck..
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Ah, my mistake, I must have been confused by the meaning of "constructive criticism"
Apparently when you say:
OMG..
Your worse then most of my girl friends.. ITS ALL QUITE SIMPLE AND EASY
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That is meant in the most loving, helpful way. Right? I should have been happy with that response. I apologize.
garringm said:
Thought we were talking about tablets here ... this whole Jimmy Dean and Links givin me a hankerin for some breakmast
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Giggles im so sorry .. fix me some while your in the kitchen..
OK, erica_renee, I need to come back and give a real apology. I am having a hard day at work today and was looking toward learning a new process on my latest toy to give me a little relaxation. I just had a customer blaming my additions to the software as the cause of their problems. Not sure if you code for a living, but that is not a fun conversation.
Sorry if I was mean, I just want to learn and not be treated like an idiot. I just want to be as educated as possible before I make a move. I see to many people getting educated because they broke something.
Its all fine
I do understand what you mean..
NOPE im not in software development in anyway. I did back in the 80s own a local computer business so i know how customers can be.. As far as my past being mean and aggressive.. YES i think it was ,better to have someone dislike me then brick there device.. I have leaned alot about android thru the official android web development site.. Its alot of long winded boring reading.
all is kewl with me. I dont take this stuff personal.People including myself sometimes can become to agressive on forums. as its not really a face to face interaction..
anyway GOOD Luck...
xo xoxoxo
I got the itch for some breakfast also.
Erica, git in dere and whup me up sum vittles!!
IM So sorry TIMMY Dean
oops i feel so stupid i just realized i was having a bad blonde moment..
and while you are cooking guys bring me some as well.. I Have been banned from the kitchen. last time i dropped a expensive glass and broke it.. Thou i used to love to cook.. Boohooo
ok i shup now because im causing yet another forum to be way way off topic..
YeeP said:
Perfect, thanks man.
Not sure if you ranted to make yourself feel good or show how awesome you are. Either way, this is not my first time to the rodeo, and not my first time on a forum where there are people that want to constantly show how tough they are. I have seen your posts in other threads and know what to expect from you. Because I am new here, I will not use the language I am tempted to with you.
It is so cool that you feel great enough that you can give someone a hard time because they want to make sure they are prepared to do things right the first time. As opposed to the opposite. Maybe because they want to understand how things work and the syntax surrounding the protocol(s).
My opinion on your opinion is to STFU and kiss my ass. mkay?
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Good job could not have said any better just using reg English. Giggles
thedoc8 said:
Good job could not have said any better just using reg English. Giggles
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No Need to downgrade....
Please see attached -
Looks like they found rood for 3.2.1...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307539
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20680452&postcount=137
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Looks like they found rood for 3.2.1...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307539
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20680452&postcount=137
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Thanks! Just spent some time reading through this thread and it seems this is the post that those with 3.2.1 should go to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20628560&postcount=119