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Dear XDA-Community
I've a HTC Touch HD Orange UK With the 1.19.61.1 WWE original ROM
Flashing and such things are not the problem.
But what is if I need the Warranty?
Then I have to flash the original Oranke UK Rom, right?
I've read much about dumping and cooking, that I can backup my Rom with this.
And there is my Question:
What is if I flash my self Dumped Orange UK ROM. Do I need USPL od HardSPL for this? I think not, because its a Original ROM.
Because, if I need USPL or HardSPL, then HTC could find out that I've flashed my phone and I get no Warranty, right?
Sry if the answere for my Question is somewhere in the Board, but my English is not the best, and I didn't find a answere in other threads about this.
I only want a method, to flash a original Orange 1.19.61.1 ROM for Warranty issues, so that my phone is like I buyed it. And HTC didn't find out that I've flashed other ROMS
Thanks
Terrorhuhn
I think if you have a non-official Orange ROM then they might not support a warranty claim.
So, if you need to return the device then you should flash to an official Orange ROM first.
And how could I get an official-Orange Rom?
Terrorhuhn said:
And how could I get an official-Orange Rom?
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I'm confused, sorry. If you bought your phone from Orange then return it to Orange with the original ROM.
If you have a WWE ROM then you got the phone from someone else (who?) and that is the company you should return the phone to.
Here you can see the official shipped ROMs:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Ship_exe
also a reminder that orange do not check there mother board they simply replace them i have this on goosd authority as i once asked them if i can flash an offial samsung rom to the omnia obver there branded (heavily) version they sed it not possible to do
so anyway after 10 mintues i had done what i wanted (no thanks to tech support)
i asked if doing this would destroy my insurance they said the firmwares arent checked.
mind you ive just been given a replacement hd with an unbranded (HTC) rom
1.14
jayjay8585 said:
also a reminder that orange do not check there mother board they simply replace them i have this on goosd authority as i once asked them if i can flash an offial samsung rom to the omnia obver there branded (heavily) version they sed it not possible to do
so anyway after 10 mintues i had done what i wanted (no thanks to tech support)
i asked if doing this would destroy my insurance they said the firmwares arent checked.
mind you ive just been given a replacement hd with an unbranded (HTC) rom
1.14
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Can someone verify this? I am stuck with Orange ROM. Dying to try out beautiful works ( By Dutty and others ) but afraid of warranty issues.I'm also gonna need HSPL. it will be great if there will be no issues while returning HD, in case.
Thanks ahead
Thanks for the answeres.
I didn't find a Orange UK 1.19.61.1 rom (i mean non-dumped versions), only the Orange UK 1.14.405.3.
But
I've read, that some people with the same Orange UK 1.19.61.1 Firmware sended their Touch HD for warranty, and got the Phone back with the Orange UK 1.14.405.3 ROM.
That means, if there is an warranty issue, I can use the downloadable shipped orange uk Rom (1.14.405.3).
So my problem is solved!
thanks
Terrorhuhn
jayjay8585 said:
also a reminder that orange do not check there mother board they simply replace them i have this on goosd authority as i once asked them if i can flash an offial samsung rom to the omnia obver there branded (heavily) version they sed it not possible to do
so anyway after 10 mintues i had done what i wanted (no thanks to tech support)
i asked if doing this would destroy my insurance they said the firmwares arent checked.
mind you ive just been given a replacement hd with an unbranded (HTC) rom
1.14
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Yes, I can confirm this. I returned a device due to it being faulty and they replaced it even though I did not have original ROM on phone!
but remember whan they sent the replacememtn it was a WWE bot the orange 1.14 i then flashed duttiies
could somebody help me with the latest HTC TOUCH HD ROM for Orange UK.
RUU_Blackstone_Orange_UK_1.19.61.1 Dump
http://rapidshare.com/files/191585731/ruu_signed.rar.html
or older shipped
http://rapidshare.com/files/1956481....405.3_Radio_52.49a.25.26_1.09.25.14_Ship.exe
RUU_Blackstone_Orange_UK_1.19.61.1 Dump
http://rapidshare.com/files/19158573...igned.rar.html
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I downloaded and installed that ROM - It's 1.14 not 1.19!!
Where do these get released? Or haven't they been released?
I'm intrigued to find where the latest HTC Firmware will appear if Orange get round to messing with it.
That is why you are here -----
It is due to the fact that carriers don't upgrade and want you to run out of contract and buy a new toy (thus with a new rom).
This is why we cook roms (off the new toys for old boys).
I have yet to see an offical GER (german rom) come out from my or any other carrier including HTC (who are not carriers).
Now after saying all that wiki does have a orange ship.exe
Still unsure about flashing the ROM
Hi,
So the ROM supplied in the above links will upgrade the Orange ROM and keep all the horrible things that Orange have done to the handset to cripple it.
I only ask as my phone is company supplied and I do not want to screw up the handset.
My ROM is 1.19.61.1 WWE and the operator version is 34.119.1.611.
Forgive my ignorance about these matters
Chris
it´s very simple: if you like to keep your device at it is, there´s no need to flash another rom. if you like to get rid of that orange rom and take part of the better ones install one of the very good rom available here.
BoobBoo said:
Hi,
So the ROM supplied in the above links will upgrade the Orange ROM and keep all the horrible things that Orange have done to the handset to cripple it.
I only ask as my phone is company supplied and I do not want to screw up the handset.
My ROM is 1.19.61.1 WWE and the operator version is 34.119.1.611.
Forgive my ignorance about these matters
Chris
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I also want to get rid of my Orange ROM. I have read the wikis and am confident enough to be able to do it. One thing I am unsure about is, the ROM I would like to try is Panosha`s Black Pearl but as I understand it, it is based on a 1.56 ROM. and my ROM is 1.19.61.1. I can get USPL onto my TouchHD but am unsure as whether I can flash Panosha`s ROM onto my device without first flashing a 1.56 ROM. I`ve searched the Orange website and at the moment there is no 1.56 ROM.
If you are going to flash a cooked rom, then why panic about flashing the stock 1.54/1.56 roms first.
I`m not panicking, just unsure about whether I have to. I`m sure I read in the wikis that I need a 1.56 ROM on my device to flash a 1.56 based cooked ROM. Can`t find this statement any more so maybe I imagined it.
Just noticed a statement on Panosha`s ROM page which says "First flash 1.56.xxxx ROM"
davemazo said:
I`m not panicking, just unsure about whether I have to. I`m sure I read in the wikis that I need a 1.56 ROM on my device to flash a 1.56 based cooked ROM. Can`t find this statement any more so maybe I imagined it.
Just noticed a statement on Panosha`s ROM page which says "First flash 1.56.xxxx ROM"
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Yup, you need the 1.54 SPL version from Stock first which comes with the 1.56 ROM.
Read the tutorial for more info http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505377
Then any issues just ask in that thread, loads of people will help... its what we're here for
Thanks mate, I thought so. I went ahead and did it but I now have the green screen issue so I`ve obviously not done it right. Just need to read up now how to fix it. I flashed USPL 2.5 first and then one of Duttys 1.56 ROMS which all went on fine until it rebooted. Maybe I`m not understanding the flash process as much as I thought.
Check your SPL version by turning off the phone, holding down the volume button and pressing power once. It should go to the tri colour screen and say SPL- 1.56, if it doesn't it answers why your phone has gone green screen. The SPL and the ROM numbers need to match.
It's quite simple to solve, don't worry, your phone isn't bricked.
You just need to run hard SPL 1.54 which you can find on this forum. run it via PC whilst in activesync with your phone and it will do the rest. Let us know if you still have problems after this.
Thanks. I have spl 1.14. I knew I hadn`t bricked it, just caused the green screen problem because of my own stupidity not fully understanding the procedure. The ROM is showing as 1.56Dutty, do I have to flash Hardspl 1.56 or the older one. Also does the phone have to be unlocked. I thought I had all this cracked but it just gets more & more complicated the more I try and correct my **** up.
This may seem like a silly question..but .. if I install a cooked Rom
Will my connection setting for Orange as my service provider be retained?
Thanks
yes. its detected automatically after you flashed the ROM. if you hard reset (which you ought to do) then youll just go through the customisation process where you confirm that your service provider is orange.
I'm obviously a newbie
Thanks - I was bricking myself anout this.
Orange UK ROM's
I went to upgrade , found I I cant ( as abouve ) my friend could ( he brought his phone unlocked etc )
HTC gave teh responce :
Dear Customer, Thank you for contacting our Customer Support Center. An IMEI check of your device indicated that it is an exclusive product, branded to the HT849KD09700 mobile network. SN :HT849KD09700 IMEI :353xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Part Number :99HHxxxxxxx Part Description :SKU,ORANGE,English-WWE,GBR,HTC,UMTS 900/2100,Regional_ID_Low,Sophisticate Black,w/SIM Lock,BLACKSTONE-A2 Customer Name :Orange P.C.S Limited We can only offer limited technical support for network branded handsets, as both software and hardware can be altered by the network provider. For this reason, contact your provider for any support that you might need, including repairs and software updates. As your handset is an exclusive product from a distributor, you will also not be able to get the HTC website support files as this is only for genuine original HTC branded devices.
I called / emailed orange , they have no plans to release the update on there phones.
BoobBoo said:
Hi,
So the ROM supplied in the above links will upgrade the Orange ROM and keep all the horrible things that Orange have done to the handset to cripple it.
I only ask as my phone is company supplied and I do not want to screw up the handset.
My ROM is 1.19.61.1 WWE and the operator version is 34.119.1.611.
Forgive my ignorance about these matters
Chris
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you already have the latest Orange ROM
I thought I was ready to go before I came accross this thread and it's left me hesitant.
I too have an Orange branded phone. SPL 1.14 ROM 1.19.61.1 WWE.
I thought that all I needed to do was:
a) update windows 7 USB driver so I can sync from the tri-colour screen.
b) run HSPL 1.56.OliNex
c) flash a new 1.56 ROM
edit: Do I need to update to stock SPL 1.54 before step b?
As davemazo says, does it need to be Orange unlocked to do this? dgattenb saying he can't flash the 1.54 HSPL onto the phone has put this on hold.
Cheers,
Provider: Orange
Country: UK
I entered my serial on the HTC site and could not download the rom update. Therefore I downloaded using another UK serial obtained from this site.
When installing the rom update, i get the following error
ERROR [294] : INVALID VENDER ID
I have just looked on my phone and it shows the rom version to be 1.14.405.3 (22273) WWE. This looks to me like a Danish one. God know why I would have a Danish rom but just wondering if anyone can help me make an upgrade bearing in mind I know absolutely zero Danish?
surely you should be able to do it by changing the spl?
I haven't got my HTC touch yet but its in the wiki on how to change it....
Thanks! I will have a look at changing the SPL when I get a chance later today. I spoke with HTC and they do not support my phone because it has been 'branded' by Orange. There's very little chance Orange will provide upgraded roms anytime in the next zillion years.
Anyone in a position to compare the new upgraded rom vs dutty's rom ? If Dutty one is still far superior, then I might as well just install that. My HTC HD is still a virgin when it comes to Roms
As any one tried the new ROM update from HTC in the UK ?
http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=179&cat=2&dl_id=533
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dgattenb said:
As any one tried the new ROM update from HTC in the UK ?
http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=179&cat=2&dl_id=533
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Bit outdated mate. Dated 7th April 2009. Looks most likely like version 1.56 which has been incorporated into a lot of WM6.1 roms. However newer releases including 1.57 & 1.59 have been released. Latest cooked roms already include either 1.57 or 1.59
Shipped roms can be found in wiki here mate
not in date ?
Mine's rom 1.14.405.3 ( 22273m ) WWE
Radio 1.09.25.14
when I can put in my serial number into HTC it says the patch is not fro my phone .
I'm with Orange UK
serail
BTW My serial is HT849KD09700 ...
dgattenb said:
BTW My serial is HT849KD09700 ...
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You can download same shipped rom from wiki no problem. I provided link in previous post.
dgattenb said:
Mine's rom 1.14.405.3 ( 22273m ) WWE
Radio 1.09.25.14
when I can put in my serial number into HTC it says the patch is not fro my phone .
I'm with Orange UK
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If your phone if orange branded then this is the reason why HTC says the firmware update is not for your phone.
dgattenb said:
As any one tried the new ROM update from HTC in the UK ?
http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=179&cat=2&dl_id=533
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My new Touch HD came last week with this ROM on it - it's on T-Mobile but SIM unlocked. very stable, no major problems other than the fact I could do with a better radio support since the T-Mobile coverage where I am is lousy, but the Touch is still worse than my SonyEricsson W950i.
Will 1.57 or 1.59 ROMs help on the radio side ?
answer from HTC
Dear Customer, Thank you for contacting our Customer Support Center. An IMEI check of your device indicated that it is an exclusive product, branded to the HT849KD09700 mobile network. SN :HT849KD09700 IMEI :3539xxxxxxxxxx Part Number :99HHCxxxxxxx Part Description :SKU,ORANGE,English-WWE,GBR,HTC,UMTS 900/2100,Regional_ID_Low,Sophisticate Black,w/SIM Lock,BLACKSTONE-A2 Customer Name :Orange P.C.S Limited We can only offer limited technical support for network branded handsets, as both software and hardware can be altered by the network provider. For this reason, contact your provider for any support that you might need, including repairs and software updates. As your handset is an exclusive product from a distributor, you will also not be able to get the HTC website support files as this is only for genuine original HTC branded devices.
Im asking orange now for more infomation
Please let us know how Orange responds. I too would like to try a new ROM update on my Orange TOuch HD.
Jack
I just changed the title to refelct the subject mater better.
You are facing the same problem as most of us which is why this site is loved so much.
In my case I have 1.14 German rom sold by sunrise.
My S/N also does not work on the 1.56 shipped roms from HTC.
They will also not sell me a WWE version of Blackstone.
So the only choice I have is to USPL / HSPL the device and get myself either a cooked or shiiped rom.
Now I am lucky as the branding of the device (flash screen, ect) is on no intrest to me, on top of that Sunrise gives me no add on Cabs that I need or even want.
My aprroaching sunrise has got me no were.
My hope is that you might get somewere and that we might beable to get a shipped rom that we can add to our collection.
Good luck
slightly off topic, but what is the difference between the WWE and European versions of the ROM available on the Wiki ? I'm currently on WWE 1.56 (T-Mobile UK) and have upgraded the radio from 1.13 to 1.14 without any effect. Wondering if the Europe version is any different, also wondering if it would help any of you locked onto Orange ?
no responce from orange
No responce from orange yet , will keep you guys upto date , chnaging the radio wont work on the Orange ROM , in the forum there are loads of folk who have kiled there phone and had to go back to " factory " settings .
I have written a letter of complaint to orange as they have said that there are no plans to release any updated ROM versions in the future. I await a call from orange complaints department. Im not expecting anything. If you put a non-orange ROM on your phone then you void your warranty. Great service me thinks not!
This is the latest rom from orange. check this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517803
still nothign
still nothing from orange, I cant see wht orange wont " upgrade " the rom , even HTC this fixes certain problems... I will ask them again and get back to you ..
This reminds me so much of a past experience I had with a phone network company. Yes it maybe Orange!!!
Same thing as you I wrote and wrote. In the end I got so fed up I upgraded with a custom rom that suited my needs. I DID however take note that by doing a custom rom/radio upgrade screwed the warrenty...HOWEVER I read on xda dev many threads on backing up the original rom along (and more importantly) HOW TO downgrade back incase the phone needed replacing via the Networks Warrenty.
Orange IMHO are the best network out there for many reasons. But I guess they are of the opinion, that as the rom that come with it works without too many customers complaining, then they won't and need not offer an update.
For the record. I updated to Miri v12 and have followed this rom genious for months. My Blackstone runs like a bullet from a gun, and is as reliable as I want. Everything works on it and I now know exactly HOW to downgrade the phone should it happen to go wrong and need to be shipped back to Orange for replacement....or repair.
Read....read and read some more...and you'll end up loving you Blackstone more than you would have.
I have just spoken to customer support. They are now saying that the first year of warranty is with HTC and that in her opinion they would not void the warranty if you install the official rom, even though HTC say the ROM upgrade is not compatible !?!
Yea I am having exactly the same problem, I did try two updated roms from the wiki, The WWE 1.59 and the EU 1.59 both worked as far as resetting my phone got to 1% and then came up on the PC screen to say it was not supported by my provider? Would I be able to use one of these roms and flash it using another method? I have seen a few other methods of doing it?
Also would it be benificial to just use a cooked rom if I can't get one from Orange? Would I still be able to connect into their network afterwards or would I need to input a whole lot of settings?
mwaldi3 said:
Yea I am having exactly the same problem, I did try two updated roms from the wiki, The WWE 1.59 and the EU 1.59 both worked as far as resetting my phone got to 1% and then came up on the PC screen to say it was not supported by my provider? Would I be able to use one of these roms and flash it using another method? I have seen a few other methods of doing it?
Also would it be benificial to just use a cooked rom if I can't get one from Orange? Would I still be able to connect into their network afterwards or would I need to input a whole lot of settings?
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may be worth checking my posts at the end of the "Dummys guide...." in the ROM section and adding your voice
Cool thanks will do
just got myself this handset today, it is absolutely beautiful, ive had htc's in the past but it's been a lock time since i messed about with unlocking and roms, anyone point me in the right direction, can the o2 hd2's be unlocked right now, and debranded?
did a search and found out the latest rom is 1.48, im on 1.43 just now,
also im tryng to get the leo to my pc but there is no cd in the box, what software do i need for this??
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just got myself this handset today, it is absolutely beautiful, ive had htc's in the past but it's been a lock time since i messed about with unlocking and roms, anyone point me in the right direction, can the o2 hd2's be unlocked right now, and debranded?
did a search and found out the latest rom is 1.48, im on 1.43 just now,
also im tryng to get the leo to my pc but there is no cd in the box, what software do i need for this??
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You need active sync from microsoft to sync with pc, or you can just plug it in with usb and use it as a removable drive, follow the tutorial on the rom section to debrand and unlock your o2 HD2 by upgrading to the new 1.48 roms...
thanks richie,
i will download active sync now, but i have a question,
im tryng to find the rom section but i have found quite a few posts, im really confused, what is SPL??
do i just install 1.48 and that should debrand and unlock my device??
and what is goldcard???
im coming from an n97, and have been using symbian for over 5 years, so i apologize in advance
o2 will now let you unlock it,maybe for free...more info on that here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5054228&postcount=2
The latest 1.48 ROM cannot be loaded without using goldcard, on an O2 HD2.
For Windows Vista and 7, you need Windows Mobile Device Center (activesync renamed).
It on the windows mobile site to download.
mox123 said:
thanks richie,
i will download active sync now, but i have a question,
im tryng to find the rom section but i have found quite a few posts, im really confused, what is SPL??
do i just install 1.48 and that should debrand and unlock my device??
and what is goldcard???
im coming from an n97, and have been using symbian for over 5 years, so i apologize in advance
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591314
Follow this thread to the letter and you won`t go wrong....
Useful info!
Chaps,
Once this has the 1.48 installed on it will it then be able to be upgraded with ROM's from the HTC site in future without the use of a GoldCard?
Or will it need to be network unlocked too?
Is this GoldCard business needed because the O2 HD2 is network locked?
S_J_D said:
Chaps,
Once this has the 1.48 installed on it will it then be able to be upgraded with ROM's from the HTC site in future without the use of a GoldCard?
Or will it need to be network unlocked too?
Is this GoldCard business needed because the O2 HD2 is network locked?
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For now you will need to use the goldcard method for installing the roms from HTC as they have not yet gone official..I can`t see it affecting future upgrades from the HTC site but my experience tells me that when ever i`ve had an O2 branded HTC device the HTC website won`t allow downloads from there site when you have to enter your serial number. You have to wait for O2 to release there own version of the update which NEVER happens....
Hence why i ended up at this brilliant site.
thanks guys, im going to follow the goldcard method,
will there be such another method without goldcard in the near future? im not even sure what goldcard is to be honest
will debranding to 1.48 unlock the phone as well?? or not ??
i have submitted the unlock phone request form on o2's website but am just wondering if the new rom will unlock the phone?
richie_jones said:
For now you will need to use the goldcard method for installing the roms from HTC as they have not yet gone official..I can`t see it affecting future upgrades from the HTC site but my experience tells me that when ever i`ve had an O2 branded HTC device the HTC website won`t allow downloads from there site when you have to enter your serial number. You have to wait for O2 to release there own version of the update which NEVER happens....
Hence why i ended up at this brilliant site.
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Thanks Richie, that's a very comprehensive answer!
Hey, I've got an O2 branded phone which was unlocked using the unlocking website (€22 it cost). Using a 3 UK sim and I'm wanting to get rid of O2's branding.
I've downloaded "RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_1.48.405.2_Radio_Signed_15.28.50.07U_2.05.51.05_2_Ship.exe"
My question is will this ROM remove the branding and do I need to use the goldcard with this or is this a shipped rom (that I can just update using the exe)?
Many thanks,
Ross.
Rossimac said:
Hey, I've got an O2 branded phone which was unlocked using the unlocking website (€22 it cost). Using a 3 UK sim and I'm wanting to get rid of O2's branding.
I've downloaded "RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_1.48.405.2_Radio_Signed_15.28.50.07U_2.05.51.05_2_Ship.exe"
My question is will this ROM remove the branding and do I need to use the goldcard with this or is this a shipped rom (that I can just update using the exe)?
Many thanks,
Ross.
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Yes and Yes
goldcard needed and rom will remove branding
TartanArmy said:
Yes and Yes
goldcard needed and rom will remove branding
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Okay cool, card prepared and rom loaded on.
Is this the best rom to use at this moment? Just waiting for the battery to charge > 80%
Branding is cosmetic, I can live with that. Network locking prevents the use of another network's SIM cards and is the real problem. I recently bought an O2 branded HD2 on ebay, and I am not an O2 subscriber. Whilst I have read on other threads that O2 now offer unlock codes for free, it seems unlikely that they will do this for a non-subscriber. So I have been trying the commercial unlockers, of which there are many. Of the four tried so far, all have been unable to calculate an unlock code for my EMEI no. To be fair, three of them immediately refunded what I had paid them. So now I am stuck with O2. I would like to understand this situation better. Is my phone just too new, in which case I just need to be patient? Is it something worse? Any comment would be welcome.
BTW reflashing to a stock or cooked ROM does NOT remove network locking.