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Decided to jump ship.. switching to HTC desire

Who is with me?
With all the gripes that we have with this phone right now, including no 2.1 for a 8 months (by which time SE will launch a newer Android device and pay no attention to X10 owners) as well as multitouch, live wallpapers, hundreds of apps that dont run on anything less than 2.1 etc etc, I think its high time we hit SE where it hurts.
Bring on AMOLED, 512 MB RAM, native flash and 2.2 around the corner.
Who needs a 8MP camera. Seriously, all cameras on mobile phones are **** anyways.
The screen size is a tad smaller, but so is the phone (which is better in my books).
Any other reasons anyone can think of apart from the obvious?
Just about to flog it on fleebay/gumtree

You sound horribly insecure. Its just a phone. Relax for god sake.

thats because i probably am... or perhaps just enlightened...
more fits of insecurity coming your way

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You sound horribly insecure. Its just a phone. Relax for god sake.
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Exactly its phone nothing more. Jheeze what a pointless thread.

I sincerly hope you are satisfied once you switch.
The X10 is as advertised and I am happy with it as is.

Im sure you are all very happy with the device at hand and this is probably not the best forum for this topic, although I know of a lot of users here who feel the same way about the X10 and would be willing to move away.
If not now, than a couple of months down the line, you will all be singing the same tune when most of the apps stop offering upgrades on the 1.6 platform.

Everyone's opinion is welcome and a forum (any) is the perfect place to express it.
I respect your opinion and your reasoning as it does have merit.
For me, this is my first run on Android.
I like the SE UI and the apps are secondary to me.

i'm with you. but i'm going for the nexus one. receiving that piece of sexy tomorrow.

I will wait another month or so, to see if we get it rooted. If not, ill be getting a 4G when available in the UK

boring htc phones
To be very honest i think Desire and Nexus are both boring not so well designed phones. They´re geek phones with no aesthetics. X10 it´s way more sleek, elegant and big! Froyo will come as well to the X10... just patience my friends. Who know we get the phone rooted pretty soon...

Don't let the door hit you on the way out!

seriously im getting tired of these "omg ive had it with this x10 gotta sell it" go ahead , no one really cares. coming from 2.1, i still dont care if the x10 is still 1.6, its fast,sexy and its just a phone! im all for root, and itll come. for now though people who dont sit at home all day in mommys basement are enjoying the x10.
i certainly hope puberty doesnt confuse you as much as your x10 dilemma.
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anyone who is happy with the way the x10 is right now is seriously either super retard OR cant/doesnt have the money/whatever reason to switch to another phone. "ofcourse i am talking software wise " not the phone it self in general as i used to have X10 and i love the design of the phone more than my new nexus 1
anyway OP. i did the same yesterday, i bought the Nexus 1 tho. mainly because i never like the HTC interface and i figure that phones like nexus and motorolla droid are always faster to get updates " since i wont wait for htc to implement their software into the phone before updating.
the guy at the store promised me not to sell my x10 for a week " he is a friend " if SE annouce 2.2 by then or the phone get rooted " haha wtf i am thinking " then great i will get it back. if not, then the hell with SE. let them shove the phone up their @$$. or some unlucky mfer buy it

let us know if it hurts when yours drop too...wait there should be a thread for prepubescent b00ns...
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Seriously just keep the x10 for now. Root will come sooner or later. You knew the x10 would come with 1. 6 then why did you buy it in the first place? If I have the patience to wait for 2. 1 or root then so does everyone else, unless you don't have a life and loaft around xda starting useless threads saying ur gonna sell your x10 for another phone. If so go ahead no one is stopping you. We don't need to know anything else. As far as I know this is the xperia x10 thread.
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i'm going to be keeping the x10 for a while even after my nexus one gets here today.
i have faith in x10. but the phone seriously is limited by the OS. the nexus one's looks are a matter of opinion and mostly on taste. i love the way it looks but all the good features are on newer OS.
we all knew Android would be updated. but i don't think people expected the phone to have such a long wait for an update with an outdated OS. you get an android phone these days for the reason that the OS will only get better with updates. everyone sees the petition thread, right?
if OS didn't mean a thing and that it didn't have any issues for the X10, no one would be complaining.

Moving to another phone in the future?
Maybe.
HTC? No way ..
What else?
A new iteration of Nexus, maybe a better Galaxy S (one with flash for camera) or a Motorola Motoroi if they decide to sell it in US/Canada.
But really... HTC?
I'm sorry to say but you are crazy
Giving your X10 for HTC Desire/Legend or Nexus One is pointless.
None of them is as good as X10.

tuxStyle said:
But really... HTC?
I'm sorry to say but you are crazy
Giving your X10 for HTC Desire/Legend or Nexus One is pointless.
None of them is as good as X10.
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pointless ? ..... what planet are you from ?

I agree with miguelsantos1979.
1st Gen AMLOED screens are not overly impressive, my friend has the Desire and he struggles to see the screen in direct sun light.
If you want to change the handset, change it rather then write a post like a spoilt child

Well, assuming that people don't have the cash to switch to another phone when they are having a X10 is the most useless comment I read here since I became a member, it's not about having cash my friend, it's about what you expect from something you bought and if the product suits you or not.
Fortunately everyone is different, I like my X10 eventhough on my X1 I was able to make my own themes and tweaked whatever I wanted. Ashame some games can't be installed because of the fact it is still running on 1.6, but that's not worth getting another phone for me personally. I will wait for the updates, and as soon as SE comes with the update, there will be something new to complain about. That is how it works in this fastgrowing technology world we live in.
Another point can be not everyone goes so deep in their phones as we do, and for "normal" people the X10 is fantastic as it is. SE want to sell big with this phone, so making it to complicated scares of the average customer who just buys a phone based on the looks of it, and you have to admit, the first time you had the X10 in your hand, it was looking good
Just relax and take a beer after you bought yourself another phone
Cheers,
Arnold

Bye Bye Sony Xperia X10

Well i just sold my X10 to a friend of mine. i know the 2.1 update is around the corner but ive been using my dell streak more and more... Atleast i'll be able to update his home and check out 2.1 when it finally does come out!

If it is a lack of bye bye,bye bye

Mods, please close this thread. It contributes absolutely nothing of value and will lead to 2100 pages of flaming and *****ing.

Dont get me wrong though. I love the X10. The camera is great. the phone is very stylish. Its quick. Its tough. i dropped my phone 20+ times without a case and the screen didn't break. my buddys galaxy was dropped from 2 feet and the screen cracked. I actually like Mediascape i know a lot of people don't. Sony made a nice phone. And it will be one of the best phones on the market once 2.1 comes out.

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Mods, please close this thread. It contributes absolutely nothing of value and will lead to 2100 pages of flaming and *****ing.
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I have to strongly agree.....but maybe that wont actually happen. To the OP...what was the point of this thread anyways? Not trying to be an ass tho.

gypsydigi said:
Dont get me wrong though. I love the X10. The camera is great. the phone is very stylish. Its quick. Its tough. i dropped my phone 20+ times without a case and the screen didn't break. my buddys galaxy was dropped from 2 feet and the screen cracked. I actually like Mediascape i know a lot of people don't. Sony made a nice phone. And it will be one of the best phones on the market once 2.1 comes out.
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If you really feel that way about it...I don't understand why you would ditch it. Anways, I love my X10 and I traded in my Nexus One running froyo for it and never looked back. The only phone that has me second guessing right now is the unreleased in Canaded "Desire HD"....until I read reviews on that, and then compare it to my Xperia X10 with 2.1 and the second half of the update process Ill decide then.

The dell streak is a 5" tablet, not a mobile phone. If I wanted to carry around a plastic brick I'd buy a netbook.
P.S. If you're not satisfied with Sony Ericssons level of customer service then you obviously haven't read what streak owners think of their device with 2.1.

Contrarian said:
The dell streak is a 5" tablet, not a mobile phone. If I wanted to carry around a plastic brick I'd buy a netbook.
P.S. If you're not satisfied with Sony Ericssons level of customer service then you obviously haven't read what streak owners think of their device with 2.1.
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no need to rage about it, if he wanted a change of phone he's more than welcome to, it hasn't affected your mobile phone at all and sony still made a sale so no damage done.
some people just like phones which are bigger than your face :L

May be getting offerd a new contract due to the faults on my x10 - what phone?

Well being on my second handset and having serious problems the that even the shop cannot get sony to sort out [virtually un usable reboots + overheating] I may be getting offered a new contract if they can rather than a 3rd x10. What would you go for? UK - Orange, thinking desire HD. Love my x10 appart from all the problems with my un-luckiness but never mind will be glad to be rid of the problems

Desire HD is great, but everybody sais that the battery last only for a half day. If I were you I would get a Nexus S or a Galaxy S (maybe Desire Z)
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Dont think they have it in phones4u yet

go3asy said:
Dont think they have it in phones4u yet
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To tell the truth I don't really know the possibilities in thr UK, all I know is that you can buy it, but maybe not at orange
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Desire HD or Nexus S :-D
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One of the nexus phones or Desire HD. Or that moto droid 2 global. Dunno if moto will update it though
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go3asy said:
Well being on my second handset and having serious problems the that even the shop cannot get sony to sort out [virtually un usable reboots + overheating] I may be getting offered a new contract if they can rather than a 3rd x10. What would you go for? UK - Orange, thinking desire HD. Love my x10 appart from all the problems with my un-luckiness but never mind will be glad to be rid of the problems
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4G capable.

Anything not maunfactured by Sony Ericsson.

Do you think you could get a short term phone.. and then arc?

I think stock android is extremely ugly. And also, the Nexus S isn't exactly a looker... might be hard to adjust from the X10
I say wait for the Arc

I think you'd have to be retarded to buy an arc personally.. after seeing how they do business.

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I think you'd have to be retarded to buy an arc personally.. after seeing how they do business.
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Agree 100%
better to get Galaxy S . HTC's service is good but i didn't like most of their smartphones i bought (Pure - HD - Diamond ) And they have a bad signal and battery doesn't last long.

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I think you'd have to be retarded to buy an arc personally.. after seeing how they do business.
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Couldn't agree with you more. I actually went through X1, X2 and X10 before I woke up.
You won't have to worry about buying the Arc anyway. It will be released 6-9 months late like every other SE "flagship".

augie7107 said:
Couldn't agree with you more. I actually went through X1, X2 and X10 before I woke up.
You won't have to worry about buying the Arc anyway. It will be released 6-9 months late like every other SE "flagship".
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kinda long wait but i might say it will come out till 2.3 gets old

pngface said:
I think stock android is extremely ugly. And also, the Nexus S isn't exactly a looker... might be hard to adjust from the X10
I say wait for the Arc
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I actually think the blue SE skin looks dreadful.
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I also think you should go for the Arc at least i am. I have been extremely happy with the X10 and dont really care about SE Updates being late as all i care is being able to mod it and have devs supporting it. All the people complaining from SE are just ...idk you decide, just look at all other companies Apple, Samsung, Htc they all have their own problems just look in their forums and see the same story..people screaming f..k Samsung never again f...k Htc etc.. I really do a lot and i mean alot of research before i buy a phone and let me tell you the x10 suited me alot more than a galaxy s or a desire or an iphone and ive had the galaxy s (just horrible phone...fast but unreliable plastic garbage so i said never Samsung) and i still have an iphone 4 well my wife does..that phone is so limited its not even funny..anyway all im saying is do not listen to never SE again and etc.. SE have been making nothing but great reliable devices. Now the Arc is coming with the latest software so i dont think you should worry about any updates soon and plus x10 has a very good comunity here and i beleive the Arc will also and it will probably be the same people that own the x10 and more. Do your research and see what you like and what you want to do with the phone, remember its what you like not someone else.

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I think you'd have to be retarded to buy an arc personally.. after seeing how they do business.
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I think they are changing their strategy.. they admitted that they went about the X10 series in the wrong way.. I'm going to wait for the Q2 flagship, which should be a dualcore with ffc(not that i need one) but it will be a lot snappier I hope

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I think they are changing their strategy.. they admitted that they went about the X10 series in the wrong way.. I'm going to wait for the Q2 flagship, which should be a dualcore with ffc(not that i need one) but it will be a lot snappier I hope
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By saying "We know we made mistakes..... butttt we aren't going to do anything about it", they are simply trying to convince previous customers this experience will be better, while at the same time winning over new customers who might have heard bad things about the x10, et al.
Just a lame marketing ploy. Now, if they were willing to actually step up and at least give us froyo, I, for one, would change my tune greatly.
I would be telling my friends to get the arc instead of the opposite (as I do love my x10, thanks to the community on here.), as I just hate the way sony ericsson choose to do business.

The Arc looks so good, I'm willing to forgive any of SE's sins
One device I'd really like to have in the interim is a Desire Z. 1.8Ghz baby
The Desire Z (T-mobile G2) is almost universally considered to be a good device. Better battery life than Desire HD i think. LOTS of developer support.

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Anything not maunfactured by Sony Ericsson.
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Too right, never getting an SE phone again.
Nexus is my next phone... in 23 months lol :|

Why i think it sux owning an SGS2!

It sucks that i think my SGS2 is perfect as it is stock.No more spending hours here on XDA to see if someone finally made that rom,that makes my phone better.I remember the day´s when i had an HTC Diamond,funky little fone but kinda not what i had expected.Suddenly u could flash Windows Mobile 6.5 and the fone was like new!
Any1 else feeling the same?

got mine friday and spend this afternoon getting rid of the samsung crapware; this is my 6th android phone so i know what I use and what I want.
It surely was the easiest phone to alter; just had a few minutes to get used of odin but that was it!
Now waiting for cyanogenmod (my pref. by far) to get the flashing madness starting again

Ye i kind of miss it. Had a trinity and the Touch pro 2 both were pritty much unuasble stock after a few weeks. But the SG ii is just awsome, actually usable as a reliable phone lol

True, true. I've flashed my HTC Hero and Desire till the end with the newest of the newest roms.
I loved MIUI and Cyanogen, and anything else out of the ordinary. I just can't wait until these come to the SGSII (including a nice and easier recovery like Amonra or cwr). I just want to try the roms to see how they perform. I won't use MIUI that long, since I hate it's not available in my language.

Can't wait for the storm of custom roms this phone will have in the future
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I think it sucks because the battery is crap.
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Sell plenty of buyers want SGS2 as they are in short supply .
jje

I think it sux owning the GSII because it looks like an iPhone n people easily mistake it for an iPhone..not tht I care abt wat people say but it seriously does in some ways...bah!!

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I think it sux owning the GSII because it looks like an iPhone n people easily mistake it for an iPhone..not tht I care abt wat people say but it seriously does in some ways...bah!!
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That's also my concern, as I find it as an insult to be labeled as an iphone user.

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That's also my concern, as I find it as an insult to be labeled as an iphone user.
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exactly my point.!!

Same here, I am tired of the ignorant fools in my school who don't know any phone that is not an iPhone. Half the people who own an Android device probably don't even know it.

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exactly my point.!!
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Show them flash and then troll them whilst they quote (their messiah) Steve Jobs and shrug their shoulders.
It's what I would do.
OR show them:
widgets (even though this may come in iOS - Android's are/will be far better)
numerous homescreens
various launchers
4.3" screen
Super AMOLED Plus
(the metaphorical) epic growth of Android Market
the thinness - 8.49mm - (UMAD iPhone user?)
do I need to continue!

superutp said:
I think it sux owning the GSII because it looks like an iPhone n people easily mistake it for an iPhone..not tht I care abt wat people say but it seriously does in some ways...bah!!
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The sgs1 was definitely a victim of this. The sgs2 not so much.

daivik said:
Show them flash and then troll them whilst they quote (their messiah) Steve Jobs and shrug their shoulders.
It's what I would do.
OR show them:
widgets (even though this may come in iOS - Android's are/will be far better)
numerous homescreens
various launchers
4.3" screen
Super AMOLED Plus
(the metaphorical) epic growth of Android Market
the thinness - 8.49mm - (UMAD iPhone user?)
do I need to continue!
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lol..they wont understand any of tht....

rocketpaul said:
The sgs1 was definitely a victim of this. The sgs2 not so much.
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i wudnt know how the sg1 fared since I didnt own it...sg2 is my first samsung...

Meh, I pulled my phone out to show it to a friend who is a die hard Apple fan. His immediate reaction was, "Wow, look at how big that screen is". Never once was their mention made of the resemblance of an iPhone.
As for the battery comment, go troll in another thread. There's only 1275838234 threads for battery whining.

superutp said:
I think it sux owning the GSII because it looks like an iPhone n people easily mistake it for an iPhone..not tht I care abt wat people say but it seriously does in some ways...bah!!
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No way. Everyone has been asking me about my phone. Same response of "Wow, so much nicer than the iphone 4"
So far no mistaken identity. Lol
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You could say they look similar and they are in that:
they are rectangular (this is very rare on smartphones)
they are black - THIS IS EVEN more rare
it's slimmer = Steve Jobs is mad.
And yes the home button. But my Desire has 5 buttons. 4 are a "dull-er" silver and the middle button is a really nice circular patterned metal sliver - it's the button you see immediately over the others.
If you look at windows phones, they have the windows key which is centred with 2 other buttons around it.
GSII has a centre button that's rectangular, surrounded by two other buttons.
So yes they are similar, but they're also similar to many other phones.
Jobs clearly has a problem with the fact that the GSII bridges that gap (on looks) between "A chunky, but extremely powerfull" which only certain people get (who don't mind the looks) and the "sleek, slim look" that appeals to the common consumer.
It's exactly what Apple did many years ago, they combined power with looks and an "image" for the phone.
(I'm saying this because I speak from personal experience seeing as I had an N80, and N95) Absolute BEASTS but they were insanely chunky, but I really didn't care.)

this is my first android device. Ive recently defected from nokia after a long relationship with symbian and more recently maemo. But its gone all wrong at nokia. wp7 devices, no os support, just community support (not such a bad thing) and Tech which is 2 years out of date. Was going to hold out for a n950/n9 but thats old tech and would prob be going against the sgs3. Plus they have dumped intel and left meego going no where.....
Im happy ive jumped ship now...
This phone is very much a king of phones. I love it, only had it a couple of days and im fascinated.
Huge wins for samsung and android

the other problem with this Samsung is 'we have no idea what kind of updates they have made and compare to Htc they are not helping people to see it,they just say UPDATE and thats it,Htc always show the updates of what kind of bugs they have fixed and anything else' for shure this is my last time i buy from Samsung,hopefuly next year when my contract finishes there will be more competitions

How emotionally 'attached' are you to your X10?

A bit of a weird topic, but I got thinking today...
The X10 is my first smartphone I've ever had, before that I had a tough as nails Samsung SGH-E180, which was one of those cheap 100 dollar phones. I fell in love with the X10 after seeing my friend use one, and without even looking at the competition bought one.
And I love it to this day. Thanks to the devs at XDA, my X10 is the fastest smartphone out of all my friends (who have Desire HDs, iPhones etc) and wherever I go I get a few looks at my phone from strangers, because of it's sexiness .
Once I met another X10 owner on the subway and when we saw that we both had X10s, we had like this manly nod of approval. It was awesome.
Anyway, how much value do you hold your X10? How emotionally attached are you to it? I don't think I'll ever get rid of this phone, when I get a new one I'll probably pass it down to my brother, but I don't think I'd have the guts to get rid of the phone that brought me to the wonderful world of smartphones.

Im the same as you... The X10 is the first smartphone ive had.... and YES... i still see Sony Ericsson phones as SEXY.... damn.... if I could only upgrade the internal hardware on my X10... Id never ever replace it..... Iphone maniacs drool when they see me play Fruit Ninja or Angry Birds While playing a song on my X10..... plus. my phone looks sexier... I love my phone now... I used to doubt it back then.... (1.6) but now... I think different.

I don't think I would be as attached as I am if it weren't for the 2.1 update fiasco with AT&T and the ride Sony Ericsson took us with on Android updates and multitouch. All of which got me addicted to xda, the xda app, Android, and most of all...my X10.

Phone sucks so I got a better one. Selling my X10 and never looking back.!
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I love my x10. I got an xplay now and before I bought the xplay I was thinking of using the x10 as a battery charger and use the x10 battery as a backup battery for the xplay, but I just can't bare to see the x10 switched off.
I now keep the x10 next to my bed charged and use it every now and again with WiFi

I too am the same. It is my first smartphone and I love it. To be honest, with the custom Tom's, I far prefer the x10 to my dads DHD. For some reason the x10 is just comfortable and feels good in the hands. My Gf and brother have iPhones and they get jealous (and mildly irritated) whenever I show them new features that they do not and most likely never will have. (I particularly like emailing my brother links to flash websites haha)
I don't think I could let this phone go even if I do upgrade. I too will give it to my little brother
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well, same as u. i love my X10. but i will change it to HTC after working.
It's due to working purpose. ( cox going to play stock market)
if compare x10 to HTC incredible S or desire HD or sensation.. i think HTC will probably work higher performance than x10 ><

I love the device.
But the way SE treats it makes me hate them.
The x10 is capable of so much but is being treated so badly by SE it hurts.
I mostly feel the damage in my wallet.
But the x10 is really cool and not too bad for my first android device.
It has taught me a lot about android.

If I were rich, I'd be changing phones like underwear.

kantk20111 said:
A bit of a weird topic, but I got thinking today...
The X10 is my first smartphone I've ever had, before that I had a tough as nails Samsung SGH-E180, which was one of those cheap 100 dollar phones. I fell in love with the X10 after seeing my friend use one, and without even looking at the competition bought one.
And I love it to this day. Thanks to the devs at XDA, my X10 is the fastest smartphone out of all my friends (who have Desire HDs, iPhones etc) and wherever I go I get a few looks at my phone from strangers, because of it's sexiness .
Once I met another X10 owner on the subway and when we saw that we both had X10s, we had like this manly nod of approval. It was awesome.
Anyway, how much value do you hold your X10? How emotionally attached are you to it? I don't think I'll ever get rid of this phone, when I get a new one I'll probably pass it down to my brother, but I don't think I'd have the guts to get rid of the phone that brought me to the wonderful world of smartphones.
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I lol'd so hard.
On topic though, i do like my phone very much, even more after finding out about xda, even with a non functioning usb hub.

I was that attached to the X10 that I gave it to my girlfriend and bought a nexus s..
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I honestly do not like this phone as a whole. I only got this cause it was cheap. When possible, I'm gonna switch to another phone. For now, custom ROMs and tweaks will keep me busy.

Im not I only went with x10 as I got it at a reduced price, I prefer the Desire HD but could not afford that, I love the speed of the unit compared to my HTC Magic. but this is the last of a long line of smartphones so I am not blinded by the virgin user wow.
The hardware buttons annoy me and constantly turn the phone on, the flap on the usb REALLY winds me up and why it has the usb at the top.
Would swap without hesitation for a desire HD, so no emotional attachment for me

Very much until I found out mine had a problem with the motherboard overheating. Now it's pretty much nothing since I'm pretty happy now with my Motorola Atrix

Well the x10 was my first smartphone and I loved it. But I eventually got bored and I now have an inspire and have never looked back!

If you don't like, love or cherish your x10, then you are probably using it wrong

Quite a lot. I mean I sent it for the repair. It's been 9 days now and i missed it sooo much!
I was walking around the mall checking out iPhone 4, Xperia Arc, LG Optimus 2x etcetera etcetera and i say to myself 'nah I love my x10 i can wait'
Maybe it's because this is my first Smartphone =3

On a scale of 1 - 10
I would be around 9.
I am very emotionally attached to my x10.
I would consider that it is my very first smartphone (but i used asus windows phone 6.5)
I bought the x10 the first day it came out and went through a series of emotion with it. The year 2010 was a wild ride for me and this phone is a sign of these emotions.
If I were to lose this phone, I would be very sad.
I can get quite emo

Funny that we have posts in this thread from people who have gotten rid of their X10 because they were not attached to it, yet they are still browsing the X10 forums?????

Would swap it for an arc in a heartbeat, simply for the better screen responsivity and smoothness