Wonder why devs are snippy? - Vibrant General

http://twitter.com/iztheshiz420
They have to deal with this crap.
If people are using a vibrant and still *****ing about the Vibrant's "slow" development, sell your damn phone and get a nexus one off ebay.

Wow that is sad.
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this is really sad. It's a shame there's people like this in the community that don't understand how much work goes into these ROMs and are just expecting a handout in the timleiest of matters.
It's amazing how immature people can act these days.

wow really? some people's children....sad

Are you kidding me? That to me would be reason alone to stop working on it altogether.
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Well depending on his stand point, you never know. He's definitely a D bag.
As far as CM6 for Vibrant, if it truly isn't experiencing any progress, the dev really should pass it on to someone else. I don't know much about the openness of CM6. Can anyone just grab the source and start working on it or is the source only available to the one dev?

Anderdroid said:
Well depending on his stand point, you never know. He's definitely a D bag.
As far as CM6 for Vibrant, if it truly isn't experiencing any progress, the dev really should pass it on to someone else. I don't know much about the openness of CM6. Can anyone just grab the source and start working on it or is the source only available to the one dev?
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dude
Wes is working on it.
plus even if noone was working on it, that is not a reason to be an asshole or Dbag.
the worst part is that there are people that follow this Dbag.
@anderdroid: before posting out of ur ass please do some research. Thank You.

Hey chillax I wasn't starting any flame wars. What is with this forum.
And I said he WAS a D Bag, period. I didn't say there was an exception to that. All I was saying is he may possibly have a valid point about the source code being passed on if it is not being progessed upon.
However, if Wes is working on it, then okay, just tell me that. No need to flame. Christ.
I consider developing ROMs myself and then think meh why would I do it for people that flame so hard and fast. Don't deserve ROMs.

What a ****.

Anderdroid said:
Hey chillax I wasn't starting any flame wars. What is with this forum.
And I said he WAS a D Bag, period. I didn't say there was an exception to that. All I was saying is he may possibly have a valid point about the source code being passed on if it is not being progessed upon.
However, if Wes is working on it, then okay, just tell me that. No need to flame. Christ.
I consider developing ROMs myself and then think meh why would I do it for people that flame so hard and fast. Don't deserve ROMs.
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No ****. That guy is just as bad as the D bag on twitter... lol

d01100100 said:
They have to deal with this crap.
If people are using a vibrant and still *****ing about the Vibrant's "slow" development, sell your damn phone and get a nexus one off ebay.
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I think I officially hate people now.

d01100100 said:
http://twitter.com/iztheshiz420
They have to deal with this crap.
If people are using a vibrant and still *****ing about the Vibrant's "slow" development, sell your damn phone and get a nexus one off ebay.
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This jackass who posted the negative comments is most likely the douchebag behind the DDoS attack on cyanogenmod.com.

Obvious troll is obvious:
So how about an easy 4.1 iPod touch 3g jailbreak
5:14 AM Sep 12th via Twitter for Android
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Related

what happened w/ kingklick?

My opinion on Kinklick92
We're cool. He's a nice person and his ROMz iz fizzle (if they really are his). I won't accuse him of anything but yeaah. We flame Justin Bieber on Twitter together soo...
WHAT'S YOUR TAKE!?
And btw, anybody know a good replacement for a toothbrush? DO NOT... SAY... FINGER!
i see what you did there
asb123 said:
i see what you did there
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I don't....What the heck?
Damn, all of this KingKlick92 criticism is making me want to flash HIS ROMs now.
asb123 said:
i see what you did there
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Right. So obvious?
Macrophage001 said:
I don't....What the heck?
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THEN YOU ARE A FAKE DEV!
SeEsAw12 said:
Damn, all of this KingKlick92 criticism is making me want to flash HIS ROMs now.
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Flash his MT3G2G1 ROM. It's amazing.
Now really... toothbrush... please?
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THEN YOU ARE A FAKE DEV!
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Dude...Im not a dev in the first place lol. I just make small stuff like themes.
G1BRICKED said:
We're cool. He's a nice person and his ROMz iz fizzle (if they really are his). I won't accuse him of anything but yeaah. We flame Justin Bieber on Twitter together soo...
WHAT'S YOUR TAKE!?
And btw, anybody know a good replacement for a toothbrush? DO NOT... SAY... FINGER!
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I respect his work (At least most of his work ) hopefully he give's back his donations and has a good explanation to why he did do that.
He put a lot into this Community and for that Ill always respect him as a DEV.
Aznneedlovetoo said:
I respect his work (At least most of his work ) hopefully he give's back his donations and has a good explanation to why he did do that.
He put a lot into this Community and for that Ill always respect him as a DEV.
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I believe that if he just admits his damn faults and returns all the stolen cash, he's good. Him, kmobs, and chrissoyars need to stop arguing on Tweeter though.!
G1BRICKED said:
I believe that if he just admits his damn faults and returns all the stolen cash, he's good. Him, kmobs, and chrissoyars need to stop arguing on Tweeter though.!
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I heard he used the money to get a N1 or Mytouch Slide, I'm not sure if that's true or not, dont like rumors. i still think his work is good b/c he does fix things and make'em better and has many good roms.
if the geek drama makes devs spend their time on doing things other than Dev'n then its bad
if the geek drama motivates them to dev more then its good
but i really dont care about geek drama....thats my opinion
Ace42 said:
I heard he used the money to get a N1 or Mytouch Slide, I'm not sure if that's true or not, dont like rumors. i still think his work is good b/c he does fix things and make'em better and has many good roms.
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He used to ask for donations from us for a Nexus One. He got it, and now asks for donations from them and US for "the next big phone". Sikke..
G1BRICKED said:
He used to ask for donations from us for a Nexus One. He got it, and now asks for donations from them and US for "the next big phone". Sikke..
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But remember that special word there "ASK"..He isn't putting a gun to any of your heads. He is following the rules asking for donations and he isn't doing anything wrong when it comes to the rules.
You can only ask for donations if its your own work.
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You can only ask for donations if its your own work.
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I highly agree with you.
I'm guessing that after his threads getting terminated at least for now we are safe from the android piped piper, hahaha.
Other websites careful the jig is up on xda and now its your turn until someone smart enough figures out his KingThief tendencies.
In before the close!!
(what? It's more worthwile than most responses on these threads)
I think KingKlick is a pretty cool guy. eh zips romz and doesnt afraid of anything...
I think he's cool too, but he needs to give credit were its due and not take it all for himself.
goldenarmZ said:
I think KingKlick is a pretty cool guy. eh zips romz and doesnt afraid of anything...
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This.
He had his share of good times, sadly he's been getting donations for all the wrong reasons. It was quite clever until it became really obvious in his last rom.
Ehh shut up. Go lure some hot Canadian babes with chocolate chip cookies.
Lol there's no denying I make your g1 run faster. Like it or not its the reason I get hits
This is all hilarious
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XDA for the Vibrant is dead.. I love our Dev's!!

I guess when your phone just runs amazing it is getting hard to make it better. I keep trolling XDA for something worth reading or trying but nodda.
Thanks Dev for all that you have done but are we coming close to the end of development for the Vibrant? Any insight as to what might be some things to look forward to in the future?
Updated - Changed the title because I meant no disrespect
When I say no ROM worth trying I guess I need to be more specific. I currently run Bionix-V and right now don't see any ROM that is a huge improvement worth switching from.. But to clarify there are several very good ROM's out for our Vibrants..
maybe you should wait til they release a source code for 2.2
actually, just leave now.
Wow dont you think thats a slap in the face. I mean I actually think eugene is working with source first of all.
Secondly I "hear" they are working on gingerbread as there is a proof of concept in the development forum.
So once again.. dont you think this is a slap in the face to those who are working are to bring more features to us?
jonwilly said:
No Roms worth trying no kernels no modems. I guess when your phone just runs amazing it is getting hard to make it better. I keep trolling XDA for something worth reading or trying but nodda.
Thanks Dev for all that you have done but are we coming close to the end of development for the Vibrant? Any insight as to what might be some things to look forward to in the future?
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As for your questions, we still have Sense to look forward to (Barak, if you some how see this, good luck with your family situation,) new ROMs from TW/Eugene, etc. Possibilities are truly endless.
hazard99 said:
Wow dont you think thats a slap in the face. I mean I actually think eugene is working with source first of all.
Secondly I "hear" they are working on gingerbread as there is a proof of concept in the development forum.
So once again.. dont you think this is a slap in the face to those who are working are to bring more features to us?
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WHAT???? "dont you think this is a slap in the face to those who are working are to bring more features to us?"
Are you smoking crack? I have donated and appreciate everything the Dev's have done and are doing to make our phones experience better.
But since the last few solid ROMS have come out for 2.2 there really has been little new development that actually improves your phones performance.
Currently Running
Bionix - V
KB1 Modem
I'm confused by this post. Actually I'm very shocked by this post.
Did you even look at the Dev forum? There are a ton of ROMS and the ROMS available are continuously being updated , some even are getting 2 or more updates per week!
How can you say the Vibrant is dead?
I can answer my own question:
1. You are just trolling OR
2. You need to learn how to use your reading comprehension skills and read more
Because there is plenty of action going on for development for the Vibrant. Give it some time man. The source code that is in the Dev section is a leaked one that Eugene got his hands on. Samsung hasn't even officially released it yet. Once they do there will be a swarm of updates to these ROMS we have already AND there will be new ones.
IDK, sorry for my rant. I usually don't even reply to these kind of seemingly troll posts but you probably should just take the other guys suggestion and just leave the forums. Because you just slapped the great Devs that help us all make our Vibrants one of the most customizable phones around.
Don't bash any devs with a statement like yours, and then at the end of your post thank the devs. That brief "thanks" to the devs doesn't take away the SLAP in the face you just gave them
PS. Just for your info and a reply to your last statement about performance enhancements to the Vibrants... My phone KILLS my girlfriends stock Nexus S in performance and looks in every way possible. I can't even bog my phone down and I'm not even overclocked. I'm running a "stock" Bionix V 1.2
stop feeding the trolls
Ha.. This is funny.. People get fired up and I am not even attacking anyone. I just was trying to strike of some interesting conversation on future project or things to look forward to in the near future.
Geeze peeps.. Chillz the hell out...
It's a trap!
Let me get my .02 in before this thread gets justifiably locked.
To the OP, what are you looking for? To say this forum is dieing is a joke.....right??
At one point there was only TW, Eugene, and Master posting up Roms; NOW we have about 6-7 options. The theming section is plastered with new options. 2.2 just got released and it opened up more doors.
If you think it's dead then kindly depart, you and all you have contributed will be sorely missed. /sarcasm
jonwilly said:
Ha.. This is funny.. People get fired up and I am not even attacking anyone. I just was trying to strike of some interesting conversation on future project or things to look forward to in the near future.
Geeze peeps.. Chillz the hell out...
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No, you are not attacking anyone directly but you were also not "striking up interesting conversation". "forum is dead" and "no roms worth trying" is a matter of opinion which you are entitled to but not exactly a kind way of asking what's in the Vibrant developments future.
jonwilly said:
Ha.. This is funny.. People get fired up and I am not even attacking anyone. I just was trying to strike of some interesting conversation on future project or things to look forward to in the near future.
Geeze peeps.. Chillz the hell out...
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You have "striked" some conversation for sure. And my post wasn't attacking you so I'm assuming you weren't talking to me in your last reply?
Unfortunately your post comes across kind of negative towards the community of Devs that work very hard to keep giving us new stuff for our phones.
So maybe you had very good intentions and the words just came out looking bad in your post.
I mean it is very hard to express intent thru words on a page. With actual conversation in person your words come across better. So maybe you can edit your original post if you didn't mean it to be a slap in the face to the community of devs here?
If not then that's fine too. Everyone is entitiled to their opinions.
Gingerbread
Is the Vibrant General not the place to just have open discussions? Why all the neg responses? I'm a die hard fan of this forum and our vibrant community. I was just trying to strike some conversation.
I agree we have themes out the butt.. Great I have themed my phone to death..
Your wording is not very good, I'm sorry to say. When you say "there are no ROMs worth trying" it sounds like you're saying "there are a bunch of ROMs but they're all shyte." If that is not your intent, I hope you change you original post, because that's exactly what it sounds like.
If that is your intent, then you deserve all the flack that you're getting here
I agree, but Flagship has been beast for me!!
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If that is your intent, then you deserve all the flack that you're getting here
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Not my intent at all..
This thread seems kind of silly since we've just started seeing kernels built from 2.2 source. It's kinda been the Holy Grail for many of us since the Froyo leaks began. Don't know about you, but I'm totally excited about Voodoo sound, overclocking, bln, ulf, etc., and all that with good battery life.
So really, if you think there's nothing exciting now, what exactly do you consider worthwhile?
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So really, if you think there's nothing exciting now, what exactly do you consider worthwhile?
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I consider worthwhile close this thread!

Another one gone

Congrats to all the kids and trolls in the vibrant section for running of another dev. For those that haven't seen Eugene has removed all of his work from XDA. I don't understand how people can be so hateful for someone taking their time to make our phones better.
You accept the risk anytime you flash an unofficial kernel/modem/rom/fix.
How hard is that to understand I mean really. If you can't fix your phone after something happens then you shouldn't be messing with it! People need to stop blaming the devs before they are all run off.
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didnt eugene quit xda like a year ago?? lol
xriderx66 said:
didnt eugene quit xda like a year ago?? lol
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looool , usles thread , You are right .
btw you cant make morons signing up for this forum usles thread bvecause we cannot do anything about it ,its parents fault for not rasing their kids good enough , AND DEVS KNOW WE LOVE THEM ! thats why we still donate , duhh
look at this another way, THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT THEIR PHONES AND COMPLAIN THAT LIFE SUCKS AND SO THEIR PHONES SUCKS ,NOW THEY COME HERE AND COMPLAIN AGAIN BECAUSE THEIR LIFE STILL SUCKS AND ON TOP OF THAT THEY BRICKED THEIR PHONES ;p
Ay yay yayyy.....
I agree on all accounts. Yetisarereal, you got a point, yet Paipie, ALSO has a good point.
Seriously, instead of us making thread's like this, we should hound and harrass the people that harrass our devs. PM them. Give them ****. Flood them. Report them.
I agree that some devs can't take heat, but, c'mon man.....
I mean really... C'MON MAN.
Behind that screen name, it is still a person. PEOPLE NEEDS TO RESPECT OTHERS, AND AT THE SAME TIME, DEVS, SERIOUSLY... THIS IS JUST THE INTERNET.
Oy vey...
Thank goodness i don't develop anymore, not necessarily Android. But, i'm still here!
R E S P E C T = Find out what it means to you and me. lol
Being good to another person makes me feel good inside , people try it out .
Wait, he removed everything?
****, I NEEDED HIS DEAD HORSE KERNEL. D:
Oh well. Guess I can't run darky's ROM now.
goddamnit guys, he removed all his CM7 stuff, not all of his xda stuff (although, i wouldn't blame him).
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goddamnit guys, he removed all his CM7 stuff, not all of his xda stuff (although, i wouldn't blame him).
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He removed his XDA stuff too go look at any of his posts the OPs are all filled with '1234567890'.
who's the ************ that made eugene leave?
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I really don't quite comprehend this community. Use to be top notch people who loved to share and help. We supported our devs who work for FREE.
Then, noobs started flaming and blaming for no reason and now you chase them away.
Great job noobs. Eugene helped so much on these forums.
Is his website still up?
What was the URL again?
guys, eugene's left before, and its not a big deal, just go on his website and download the stuff, it supports him and + gives him website visitors anyways.
xriderx66 said:
guys, eugene's left before, and its not a big deal, just go on his website and download the stuff, it supports him and + gives him website visitors anyways.
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Just read on his twitter he is sharing his mods on a "closed community site" , I'm not sure where that site is....
eminembdg said:
Just read on his twitter he is sharing his mods on a "closed community site" , I'm not sure where that site is....
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whats his twitter?
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whats his twitter?
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@Eugene_373
it tells me that he's protected all his tweets??
lol Eugene is trying to getaway from US but we keep on chasing Him lol leave the poor guy alone
Wow this blows
I hope this doesn't fuel the other devs, because, no to be rude( and i know im probably gonna get a ***** slap or two for saying this) but there is not alot of new roms as frequently as the nexus one, galaxy s or etc...Thinking about it, it sounds bad no matter what way i say it...
I MUST HAVE HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no jk
i never used anything from him besides unbrickable 2.1 anyways

What are you complaining for?

Ive had my Vibrant since its release on July 15th, this is my second device because a few hours out of the box it just bootlooped.
I love it, and i love the dev community thats here for it, but im tired of hearing people complain about stock updates that their not gonna use. "samsung doesnt update their devices", "This is my last samsung phone"...Are you serious? Why complain when you've had an awesome dev community since the start. People know their not going to run stock but the complain anyway. Imo, I think people are just jumping on the Samsung Hate bandwagon. This is an awesome phone and community, And our Vibrants still murder more than half the Android Comp on stock 2.1, you guys saw the youtube reviews right?.
Why dont we give more praise instead of more ungreatfullness because this just sickens me.
"AND IM NOT CRYING ABOUT OTHER PEOPLES CRYING, IM SIMPLY STATING THAT ITS VERY UNNECESSARY TO CRY WHEN YOU DONT HAVE TO"
PLEASE EVERYONE FIND YOUR FAVORITE GREAT (DEVS/THEMERS & AND GENERAL HELPFUL PEOPLE) AND PM THEM A THANKS FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK
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Agreed. This is my first android phone and will be keeping it for a long time. Devs have been awesome, but you will always have people who ***** and complain. It's just the nature of the beast.
Well said. This is a beast of a phone when run on custom roms, and our amazing devs are doing some great stuff to double the performance. Kudos to them. But some people simply live to whine and ***** around in their daily life let alone an internet forum.
Love this Vibrant and this great community behind it.
One of the reasons i think sammy doesnt update is because they dont stand a chance vs our dev field so why bother you kno?
Master&Slaveā„¢ said:
One of the reasons i think sammy doesnt update is because they dont stand a chance vs our dev field so why bother you kno?
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wait what? I'm sure as hell you know why we don't have a stable gingerbread rom.
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I love my Vibrant also. My phone does EVERYTHING that I could want a pocket sized computer to do; and it does it fast and it does it on a beautiful screen. The folks who have taken the time and energy to mod this rad device are plain and simply: awesome. Thanks to everyone at <TW> and EDT (my favs) for tweaking my phone in ways that I never could. Thanks to all who have worked on this device and produced a dozen + other ROMS. And thank you to the new Devs who are willing to continue tinkering with their own, hard earned, phones for the benefit of us all.
+1000000000
I so agree with u! this community has been great and theyve been so helpful too. Ty so much and im loving my vibrant.
A thread to whine about other people's whining. Nice...
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A thread to whine about other people's whining. Nice...
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+1
Threads like this are an invitation for the trolls to come eat their next meal.
#neveragain
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Threads like this are an invitation for the trolls to come eat their next meal.
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Yeah and you 2 are probably some of the whiners he is talking about. If you don't have anything positive to contribute to his post then don't comment. He made a very valid statement. I haven't been a member for long, but I have seen many threads that were either titled something about never buying samsung again or whining about not getting stock updates. So unless you have something constructive to contribute to this thread then don't come in and bash him for just trying to point out that the phone is awesome and that people are worried about stock updates when they don't even use them
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Disagree. This post has to reasons. To get people to see how great their phone is and to get them to be grateful for all the hardwork here in xda.
Agreed, the phone is great and still can be considered in top 5 phones out there. However I will like stock gingerbread for the sake of GPS drivers and Voodoo Kernel.
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Yeah and you 2 are probably some of the whiners he is talking about. If you don't have anything positive to contribute to his post then don't comment. He made a very valid statement. I haven't been a member for long, but I have seen many threads that were either titled something about never buying samsung again or whining about not getting stock updates. So unless you have something constructive to contribute to this thread then don't come in and bash him for just trying to point out that the phone is awesome and that people are worried about stock updates when they don't even use them
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I never said his statement was invalid. I'm simply pointing out that threads like this often turn into flaming etc. People posting hate threads are a problem on this forum. People replying to those threads with flaming is also a problem. People posting thread that are prone to start flame wars are also a problem. Threads like this pop up all the time and more often than not it ends up being a flame war. I agree with the OP. People should take the phone for what it is or stfu and leave. But making this forum better isnt just about shutting down flamers when they start crap.. its also about not feeding their raging and/or posting things that invite them to start trouble. Constructive enough for you?
If you haven't been here for long than maybe you have yet to see the pattern. And maybe you should at least thing about what I said in my initial post before resorting to insults. While your at it, I invite you to find a single post of me whining about anything. Because I promise you wont.
When Samsung releases updates then our devs can tear them down and make them better. Without that source code it's very difficult to make the custom roms that are so friggin awesome. This is why we don't have a totally stable and working 2.3 rom out yet, and we probably won't until Samsung makes the stock 2.3 upgrade available.
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Haha, nice man.
thanks for all the hard work yall saved me when i somehow erased everything on my phone and was stuck in cwm
I, personally, have nothing to hate on the phone about..
We all complained for 2.2, but knew that our roms that we already have are FASTER and BETTER, when we did get 2.2 stock, no one used it, it was used by devs to probably put a few things in their roms, but after that, its gone.
The GPS sucks, i get it, thats their fault, they made a mistake, other companies have before as well (Apple with their antenna) I don't use GPS i have a GPS so i use that instead of my phone.
Besides that, i can complain for probably... no flash for the camera, but thats it.
MY phone is PERFECT, with the devs all that hard work, and i'm talking about the REAL devs, not the fags who theme and call themselves devs.
(no offence to themers at all, themes are themes, and are not meant to be a full rom, with the exception of Jellette's Bi-Sidekick ofc, it had to be a new rom even though its a theme)
I, Thank you all developers for sticking with us through the hard time that Samsung has given the devs by not releasing the source code, etc.
Thank you.
Just a wee note to remind people to keep it friendly. It's becoming a bit of a habit having to close threads like this because of childish and inappropriate behaviour.
Don't let this one go the same way.
Thanks...
Agreed! Good points!

FFS Quit whining

Developers owe you NOTHING.
They will release what they've done when they feel what they've built from the open source code is ready; this is NOT contradictory in any way, shape, form, or fashion.
This method prevents the people whom are whining from bricking their phones.
If you feel that you are owed an Alpha or a Beta, build your own.
LOL why u mad tho?
I want nao!! Give item nao!
mudferret said:
Developers owe you NOTHING.
They will release what they've done when they feel what they've built from the open source code is ready; this is NOT contradictory in any way, shape, form, or fashion.
This method prevents the people whom are whining from bricking their phones.
If you feel that you are owed an Alpha or a Beta, build your own.
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Should be a sticky nowadays as people just don't seem to understand. Really, really sad to be honest.
madduckuk said:
LOL why u mad tho?
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I don't get mad. I go shopping.
And another thing: I invented the colonel....err...kernel or something.
mudferret said:
And another thing: I invented the colonel....err...kernel or something.
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Saunders? Tell be secret blend of 13 herbs and spices NAO!
madduckuk said:
LOL why u mad tho?
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lettuce be cereal here.
Didn't they recently do some analysis with a gas spectrograph or some such device and discover it was only salt and pepper cooked at really high temp?
Shameless bump to keep this up top.
Thankyou sir, its good to know there are still some people who understand this.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
So what is the ETA?
Seriously though, i couldn't agree more. If it carries on, Xda is going to become very different with Devs leaving left, right and centre. It's already started.
I have always believed that development threads should be locked down for viewing only, with a more structured Q&A companion thread, but understand in practice, its easier said than done.
The Devs have my full support.
Regards
buzzboy said:
So what is the ETA?
Seriously though, i couldn't agree more. If it carries on, Xda is going to become very different with Devs leaving left, right and centre. It's already started.
I have always believed that development threads should be locked down for viewing only, with a more structured Q&A companion thread, but understand in practice, its easier said than done.
The Devs have my full support.
Regards
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Before all the drama started yesterday everything was going smoothly...The other thread was being run perfectly and also on the other side...Then it kinda blew up.
If i knew this all would of happend i would not of bothered opening the other thread again in general section. Just been reading the last 3 pages and its nothing but utter rubbish that people talk...I am away for the weekend but i will carry on what i have started and i think its time i get some help to clear all the crap away in there and also like our OP here said time to stop people from whining...This all will blow over and people should really stop going on about whats next and let the guys who are carrying on now to leave them in peace..
Anyway enjoy your weekend everyone..Hopefully new week this will all be forgotten
conantroutman said:
Shameless bump to keep this up top.
Thankyou sir, its good to know there are still some people who understand this.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
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