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Hi,
I really would like to adress the developers of this forum about the RAM developments in current builds.
I used to have some troubles with the RAM builds with there data connection so i only tested them for a split second. My expirences where that they are really fast, but now that i have used one (Darkstone) i have switched back to a normal sense build(Phiremod SkinnyEvo Final Edition).
The reason; I cannot find any differences in speed, and if i have to say what build would be faster I tend to say the normal one runs smoother.
Could it be that people here have idealized the RAM development and that all we needed was a more stable build, witch automaticly came because of further development?
Anyways, I really do not want to step anyone on there toes with this thread, I'm really clad all developers here are doing there best to make the best Android expirence on a HD2, I'm just speaking my mind.
Greetz Willem
williamsean said:
Hi,
I really would like to adress the developers of this forum about the RAM developments in current builds.
I used to have some troubles with the RAM builds with there data connection so i only tested them for a split second. My expirences where that they are really fast, but now that i have used one (Darkstone) i have switched back to a normal sense build(Phiremod SkinnyEvo Final Edition).
The reason; I cannot find any differences in speed, and if i have to say what build would be faster I tend to say the normal one runs smoother.
Could it be that people here have idealized the RAM development and that all we needed was a more stable build, witch automaticly came because of further development?
Anyways, I really do not want to step anyone on there toes with this thread, I'm really clad all developers here are doing there best to make the best Android expirence on a HD2, I'm just speaking my mind.
Greetz Willem
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If you didn't want to step on anybodies toes, you shouldn't have posted this thread
The difference in RAM and normal SD builds is clearly the startup time of the actual build. Personally, for me that is the only big difference between RAM and SD builds.
With NAND being available now, I don't look to any of the RAM or SDbuilds anymore, as NAND is just as solid and stable as any other build. Battery consumption is better (for me) and startup time is awesome (with the build in my signature at least).
It's all about speed. RAM builds are way faster than SD ones.
If you cant tell the difference, use SD. It's like 720p vs 1080p at 12 feet. Some people notice, some people dont.
Point being, use whatever the hell you want.
I really hate stupid threads like these.
williamsean said:
Hi,
I really would like to adress the developers of this forum about the RAM developments in current builds.
I used to have some troubles with the RAM builds with there data connection so i only tested them for a split second. My expirences where that they are really fast, but now that i have used one (Darkstone) i have switched back to a normal sense build(Phiremod SkinnyEvo Final Edition).
The reason; I cannot find any differences in speed, and if i have to say what build would be faster I tend to say the normal one runs smoother.
Could it be that people here have idealized the RAM development and that all we needed was a more stable build, witch automaticly came because of further development?
Anyways, I really do not want to step anyone on there toes with this thread, I'm really clad all developers here are doing there best to make the best Android expirence on a HD2, I'm just speaking my mind.
Greetz Willem
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hi all i have a hd2 with a custom win6.5 installed on it but its over 6months old now and its giving me issues, is nand android safe to use on my hd2 yet is it stable? in terms of battery life and general 24/7 usage
please let me know if its stable and whats the best rom to date to use
thank you friends
damien
DAMIEN123_666 said:
hi all i have a hd2 with a custom win6.5 installed on it but its over 6months old now and its giving me issues, is nand android safe to use on my hd2 yet is it stable? in terms of battery life and general 24/7 usage
please let me know if its stable and whats the best rom to date to use
thank you friends
damien
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In terms of stable WinMo is way ahead.
You can use it everyday if are ready to compromise - GPS is nowhere near WinMo.
Ocasional bugs with keyboard, camera, camcorder, laging.
To be honest - it's not "perfect" but i wouldn't go back to WinMo
Regarding best choice - no such thing. Flash as many as you can and see what suits your taste.
I can recommend Desire/DesireHD/Z builds. Their "stuff" is closer to HD2 specs and most of it works great.
Gingerbread has too many issues for me.
Cyanogen Froyo builds are great, i think those builds are really stable, but the design is not my favorite.
I think a lot of Android roms are close to stable.
I use it for everyday use without any problems.
The battery might be a little bit better in WinMo, but it lasts me a day without a problem.
There is not gonna be a WinMo on my HD2 again... for sure..
You can always go back to WinMo if you dont like it....Trust me Android is way better.
ok thank you for the advice ive looked at a few roms and i saw this one was very popular with the most replays so im going to install this,
how does it compare to others around?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877777
EDIT sorry ive just saw this is gingerbread ill not be using this then ... will post my choice when i find one
before you jump into full NAND, why not take a test drive. I recommend these SD builds. I used the first one for everyday use before switched to the NAND of the second (v2.6) version. Just copy the files on the SDcard and go. See how you like Android. If you like Android the NAND version are even better. (Faster and more Stable)
-=MDJ FroYo HD v.4.6=-
DL DesireZ v2.2
Also use a Auto Boot loader so you don't even need to click any bottoms when you boot up.
Exceller Multiple Build Loader
Ok, guys. After installing and testing some of the best and popular android builds I came around to write my opinions here.
First thing first... I appreciate all the works by guys who made android SD builds.
Second, sorry if my English is not good enough.
I purchased my hd2 about a month ago. And after some research I decide to install wp7 and android on it.
But the question for me was which android build will be more suitable?
Here are some important key features to choose from:
1. Reliable
2. Fast
3. Stable
4. Smooth
5. User friendly
6. Pre-installed programs
7. Development cycle
8. Compatibility
9. Error and bug free
10. Battery usage
11. Cutting edge technology
Between these key features, 3 builds were more competitive.
1. American android
2. Desire DL
3. Rafdriod
For those who like pre install programs, HTC sense and software compatibility, go for Desire DL or Rafdriod which both are based on Froyo 2.2.1, I personally prefer Rafdriod between these two. Because, it's more reliable, less freezes, a bit faster and more battery efficiency. Both Froyo Builds are more android software market installation compatible.
But for those who needs stable, reliable, user friendly, cutting edge technology, error and bug free, smooth, fast and more battery efficiency OS, I recommed using gingerbread builds which American android is one the best builds based on gingerbread 2.3.3
Anyway, you may experience some Android market application installation compatibility issue on gingerbread builds, which I think it’s worth it to wait for newer versions of those applications that work with gingerbread.
Here is comparison Chart Attached
Have a great time installing your Android....
Thanks. Many if not most of us spend a lot of time for finding the best build for their needs. This is part of the fun, but reading other people's experiences is surely helpful.
I greatly appreciate this... i have been doong this since my hd2 came in on the second shippment. I have grown tired of following dev's/ cook's just to see there near perfect builds. Then boom they are gone and buiod is stuck. I have been looking to move to rafdroid and now feel confident. So thank you for this info.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA App
I am using Rafdriod 4.2 and is running continously 2 days. Use mainly for calls and a bit of wifi, switch to airplane mode when I retire for the night.
I can say the build is excellent and the battery consumption is decent, suitable for normal day-to-day usage. Will try 'American andriod' soon.
Awesome thread. Really appreciate your thoughtful research on the top sd based android.
my opinion: both MCCM's and BOYPPC's Gingerbread builds are far better than AmeriCanDroid builds
wow! it seems American Android is the best since it is free of bugs and smooth....will download & test it ASAP!! Thanks!
Thanked! I narrowed my choice down between RAFDROID and DL Desire, mainly because I wanted a rom with SenseUI. After reading this I think I'm gonna go with RAFDROID!
pappt said:
my opinion: both MCCM's and BOYPPC's Gingerbread builds are far better than AmeriCanDroid builds
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Can you elaborate please?
I have tested MCCM HD 4.0 (Froyo), was laggy and battery eater. DesireDL 2.1 was better for me.
Thanks to the OP for this comparison ! Now I'm hesitating between RafDroid 4.2 and AmericanDroid. Will test both I think...
thivi said:
Can you elaborate please?
I have tested MCCM HD 4.0 (Froyo), was laggy and battery eater. DesireDL 2.1 was better for me.
Thanks to the OP for this comparison ! Now I'm hesitating between RafDroid 4.2 and AmericanDroid. Will test both I think...
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the HD 4.0 is a 2.2 build, but i talked about Gingerbread builds...MCCM's GB build temporaly kick from xda, but you can try BOYPPC GB v5, it's on the forum.
I've tried RAF and AA versions.
I found the RAF version very usable but just the odd time it would hang at all the wrong times, trying to answer a call or simply unlocking the device. The rest of the OS was brilliant and worked well. The hanging just made me think i have to try another flavour android.
So I went onto AA.
Seems to fly, no hangs yet but data keeps dropping and that's starting to get annoying. I can be browsing quite happily for the data to just stop working. I've tried various fixes. Thankfully this version doesn't require a restart to get data working but it's still a pain to go and switch off data and then back on again.
Battery life has been average, would have expected better by now to be honest.
If a dev can just meet in the middle I'll be the happiest chap in the world
Good post, I pretty much agree with the comparison.
AmericanDroid is definitely the "best" overall SD Android version on HD2.
Now I will give a subsctancial donation to any developer managing to make a "real" sense build (with HTC sense, and not just a theme) as stable as AmericanDroid, even if the battery life is a bit (not too much) shorter.
This is very informative post, and matches my experience. But, since I'm not ready to completely give WM6.5 up, I'd like you to tell me how NAND builds compare to this. If AA gets 10 for stability, reliability, smoothness and speed, would same NAND build get 12? Would NAND Rafdroid score better than SD? How everything compares to native Android devices?
I personally have given up trying any of the Sense builds because of the battery drain.
MCCM GB V2.2 SD and Americandroid are both on a par (about a days moderate to heavy use) but I seem to have settled on MCCM.
I will go to a nand build in the near future as I have not booted into 6.5 in the last 2 weeks and have not missed it.
I have been testing the 'beta' version of the UI I used to use on winmo and am loving it on top of gingerbread. Can't wait to buy it when it comes out
It's normal MCCM is similar... that guy's not a dev, he copy/pastes the work of other devs among which Americandroid.
corrsea said:
..........but I seem to have settled on MCCM..........
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Me too...after trying out various ROMs
Wildcopper said:
It's normal MCCM is similar... that guy's not a dev, he copy/pastes the work of other devs among which Americandroid.
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That may or may not be true, but I can say MCCM's V4.5 [DESIRE HD Sense] is fast and the data conection is rock solid. I had connection issues with AA. I plan to try AA again to see it those bugs have been worked out.
If you compare light grey with pure black, you'll see that the light grey is brighter.
But when you compare the light grey with white, definitely the white will be brighter .
My point is, Just because American's is better than the rest it doesn't mean it's good .
At the end, it's just my opinion . Thanks for the thread
Hey Fake, excellent guide! This helps me to choose the one that fits me. Greatly appreciated your work.
A comparision of android ??? With 2 post every year ???
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Hey Fake, excellent guide! This helps me to choose the one that fits me. Greatly appreciated your work.
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I dont believe this...!!!!!!!!!!!
Guys ...This thread is put together by a man who has only 9 post sinse 2006!!!
And his 10ht post its a guide to choose the BEst android build ?????
This is bold ...very bold !!!!!!!!!
Come on man...did you try all the android builds ??? for how long ???
And the points that you give them are from where ????
I am using android for so long and i cant still say what build is the best or give them points (good or bad)...
I just answer ppls questions and give them quidelines so the can run the build they want...
I dont tell them that this build has 10 battery and 7 usability !!!!!!!!!!
And the other build ...other numbers!!!!!!!!
I have come to welcome all the help that ppl can give in this forum....
But a guide on what is the best android build ?????
From someone who post 2 times every year ?????????
No ...not for me ...!!!!
my 2c on this...
colossus
Hello there
I've just got an HD2 (I know it's a little late),
but i found out that this device is even better on some midrange phones in the market (according to the budget i currently have)
i knew there are WinMobile 6.5 builds, Windows 7.8, Android SD and NAND, UBuntu and finally MEEGO.
forget about WinMo 6.5, it's really outdated.
I know that some will tell me it's a matter of personal choice, but what i'm searching for is the most stable, no battery problems, and applications support.
any suggestions about the top 3 ROMS i should test/Use?
thank you all
I'd bet on Android...
If you know that it's purely a matter of opinion then what's the logic in asking?
IMO - WP7 is fast, fluid and the best OS if you don't use too many apps
- Android works fairly well and has a much better app selection than WP, but isn't quite as smooth. It's more suited for high-end hardware
- WinMo is great (yes, that does indeed mean Windows Mobile 6.5) for business-oriented usage, with excellent battery life and stability.
bib*oops said:
I'd bet on Android...
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thanks bib*oops
Nigeldg said:
If you know that it's purely a matter of opinion then what's the logic in asking?
IMO - WP7 is fast, fluid and the best OS if you don't use too many apps
- Android works fairly well and has a much better app selection than WP, but isn't quite as smooth. It's more suited for high-end hardware
- WinMo is great (yes, that does indeed mean Windows Mobile 6.5) for business-oriented usage, with excellent battery life and stability.
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thanks Nigeldg, well i really don't want to take it from the matter of opinion side of view, that's why I asked the question
I want opinions about stability, performance and battery life, with wide applications support.
the guy i bought the phone from is using an Android 2.2 build, is it worth Upgrading to the latest 4.1.2?
my Ex-phone was an touch HD (Blackstone), so i was used to putting Winmo roms only.
i'll have to read a little about how to put Android, WM7 roms.
I Agree with you that Winmo is the best in performance, battery life and currently mostly for business use, because Applications are not developed anymore for Winmo, even existing apps(specially Social) stopped working.
that's why i don't consider putting Winmo anymore, except for as a backup.
thanks
Could you two please suggest Roms one for android and another for WM7?
there are a lot, and i don't which to begin with.
I can't answer any questions unless you provide more information about what your usage of the device will be like. Different things suit different people, you'll probably just have to try some ROMs out yourself and choose later.
Hi,
I also bought my HD2 a little late in the game (some 6 months ago) and it is my second phone, I bought specificaly because I was curious to test WP7 and I knew it to be a very flexible phone if I changed my mind or new things came by (like WP8, still hope it will work some day).
That said, I use PDAimatejam WP7.8 ROM (v8.7, to be exact) and it is very stable and very, very fast, very suited to be your daily driver. There are 2 downsides (that I believe are common to all WP7 roms in the HD2):
- Lack of apps, compared to Android (that has nothing to do with the HD2, obviously). The rom I mentioned comes with the nokia apps (drive, music, etc.), I would say that your basic needs are there, depending on the type of user you are.
- Batery usage is so-so, and the batery level is inacurate. You need to perform "rituals" (look for the camera trick, for example) to have a decent battery life.
In the android front I cannot give you a personal experience (I have a Galaxy Nexus but never used android in the HD2) but the development there is very active. I would sugest you to go to a 4.1 or 4.2 ROM, it is a vast improvement over any 2.x version of android. From what I read there are very stable versions (my phone actually came with android 4.0, but I used it just for a couple hours like that). Android has a much better app coverage and as I said the development is very active, you have more ROM options to chose from. I do not know if there are any specific bugs/"characteristics" that you need to be aware, as is the case with WP7 and the batery.
Another thing, you can always try some of the options for a few days (I would recommend at least a week or two for each OS) and decide which one you like better, or even dual-boot Android and WP7. Thats the beauty of the HD2.
Hope it helps.
Good luck,
Nigeldg said:
I can't answer any questions unless you provide more information about what your usage of the device will be like. Different things suit different people, you'll probably just have to try some ROMs out yourself and choose later.
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Well, these are the apps I Mostly use: Facebook, Twitter, WhatsUp, Skype, Navigation, RSS....
Android and WM7 will it be then i guess, with android as the main OS.
could you point me to a good Anroid ROM to start with?
sandro.bertini said:
Hi,
I also bought my HD2 a little late in the game (some 6 months ago) and it is my second phone, I bought specificaly because I was curious to test WP7 and I knew it to be a very flexible phone if I changed my mind or new things came by (like WP8, still hope it will work some day).
That said, I use PDAimatejam WP7.8 ROM (v8.7, to be exact) and it is very stable and very, very fast, very suited to be your daily driver. There are 2 downsides (that I believe are common to all WP7 roms in the HD2):
- Lack of apps, compared to Android (that has nothing to do with the HD2, obviously). The rom I mentioned comes with the nokia apps (drive, music, etc.), I would say that your basic needs are there, depending on the type of user you are.
- Batery usage is so-so, and the batery level is inacurate. You need to perform "rituals" (look for the camera trick, for example) to have a decent battery life.
In the android front I cannot give you a personal experience (I have a Galaxy Nexus but never used android in the HD2) but the development there is very active. I would sugest you to go to a 4.1 or 4.2 ROM, it is a vast improvement over any 2.x version of android. From what I read there are very stable versions (my phone actually came with android 4.0, but I used it just for a couple hours like that). Android has a much better app coverage and as I said the development is very active, you have more ROM options to chose from. I do not know if there are any specific bugs/"characteristics" that you need to be aware, as is the case with WP7 and the batery.
Another thing, you can always try some of the options for a few days (I would recommend at least a week or two for each OS) and decide which one you like better, or even dual-boot Android and WP7. Thats the beauty of the HD2.
Hope it helps.
Good luck,
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thanks Sandro, I will definitly give WM7 a shot,
any quick guides on burning Android/WM7 ROMS, i know the forum has articles about that, but asking experienced users is better for a noob like me at the moment
thanks.
If you don't browse the web too much and don't do any heavy gaming then go for a GB ROM. Choose one yourself, there are tonnes and all are good, but just don't use Sense. A CM7/MIUI GB ROM should work fine for you. I've never used WP so I can't recommend any ROMs, I guess just get the latest version if you can. I'm not going to link you to any guides because you're supposed to search (that's one of the forum rules) so I don't really see why I should do it for you
Nigeldg said:
If you don't browse the web too much and don't do any heavy gaming then go for a GB ROM. Choose one yourself, there are tonnes and all are good, but just don't use Sense. A CM7/MIUI GB ROM should work fine for you. I've never used WP so I can't recommend any ROMs, I guess just get the latest version if you can. I'm not going to link you to any guides because you're supposed to search (that's one of the forum rules) so I don't really see why I should do it for you
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thanks Nigeldg
if you want an easy intro to android, consider installing Darkstone's superram froyo on SD.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870518
it's an easy quick install, everything is supported hardware-wise and if you have the latest stock rom (3.14?) you won't have to change anything on the phone. it boots and runs fast from winMo.
if i'd known how easy and useful it was going to be i'd have installed this ages ago.
theabsurdman said:
if you want an easy intro to android, consider installing Darkstone's superram froyo on SD.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870518
it's an easy quick install, everything is supported hardware-wise and if you have the latest stock rom (3.14?) you won't have to change anything on the phone. it boots and runs fast from winMo.
if i'd known how easy and useful it was going to be i'd have installed this ages ago.
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Lol you're a good few years late with that one mate
theabsurdman said:
if you want an easy intro to android, consider installing Darkstone's superram froyo on SD.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870518
it's an easy quick install, everything is supported hardware-wise and if you have the latest stock rom (3.14?) you won't have to change anything on the phone. it boots and runs fast from winMo.
if i'd known how easy and useful it was going to be i'd have installed this ages ago.
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Thanks theabsurdman, but i already have Froyo, and i'm thinking about getting the latest Android version.
Hello,i am in hurry for sorry if i ask noob question. I buy HTC HD2 Europan version. Windows Mobile is default OS i have some experience with installing android on it. So here is my question:
- Is HTC HD2 really the beast ?
- How to extend battery life This is major problem
- Wich Android should i install that best works on HD2 ?
Thnks
1-That depends on the way you define beast. if you're talking about speed, then the answer is not. there are a lot of newer smartphones with more decent hardware that can operate a LOT faster and smoother. If you're talking about OS's it runs, then yeah. it's DA BEAST.
2-each OS has it's specific battery usage and life. This is from my own experience:
Windows mobile consumes the least of battery (or maybe it's artemis rom )
android sd builds consume more battery than nativeSD which consumes more battery than nand (thus replacing windows mobile)
windows phone has normal battery usage (lasts a day for me) but there are tricks to calibrate battery and get more out of it. i haven't tested though.
different android kernels may consume more battery, and with more apps running in the background the more battery is used.
3-which android........
everyone that come to xda asking about which rom is better gets flamed so i'll give you a few ones before you get flamed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434860 NexusHD2 ICS 4.0.4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2224469 NexusHD2 JellyBean 4.2.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124757 Sense of Eclipse GB
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2126053 TouchwizMOD 3.0 (jb 4.2.2)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2303826 Pixeldroid jb 4.2.2
Just remember these are my PERSONAL favourites and each person has it's own.
now go enjoy the freedom of roms with hd2, thanks its awesome developers and never ask which rom is the best again
There's a lot of questions asked and solved in the HTC HD2 Forum, Kindly take your time to exploit and learn, you are welcome
Thanks a lot Now i have other problems I can't connect on marketplace and i can't go on facebook :v It says that i can't connect .Btw i am connected to wi-fi network on my router.
And one more think i don't want to install Android on SD card .