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ROM upgrade help

I wanted to install one of the ROMs from www.yorch.net. But before doing so I have some questions:
1. If I choose to build ROM as an installer.exe, is installing it to my device as simple as running the .exe file? (of course with the device connected thru Activesync)
2. Is my present ROM (see specs below) supported?
3. If Murphy comes to visit and I screw up, will my phone be completely unusable or can I just reinstall old ROM, do hard reset and everything will be back to how it was?
My specs:
OS: Pocket PC ver 3.0.12039
ROM:3.20.06 ENG( 07/30/03) (O2 Asia I think since I bought it here in the Philippines)
Radio: 4.21.00.
Thanks

1 as far as i know yes havent don it to my own device yet though
2 a rom dont have to support a rom since it'll overwrite it
3 of cause merphy can also show his ugly face
but if all fails a sd flash reader writer can save many a tears
also if your phone is working ok then i would not mess with the
radio stack and beware because some roms include the radio stack
and if you try to update your radio stack to a US (900/1900) and you network is 900/1800 you could be in for a world of pain

ROM upgrade step by step
OK I'm really dying to give it a go but I'm just a overly cautious bloke. So I'm gonna outline what I interpreted (after reading lots of posts I think I'm getting it but not sure) to be the way do the upgrade. Please correct me if i'm wrong:
Equipment I have:
1. My notebook (Windows XP, Activesynch 3.7)
2. O2 XDAI
3. Cradle and USB connection.
Steps that I think I should take:
1. Place XDA on cradle and make sure it's connected with PC.
2. Backup?? (not so sure what to back up since contacts, calendar, notes are synched with outlook, docs are also synched, I have copies of cab and program files since I download them to PC before installing them to XDA.) If i'm missing something please slam a frying pan (this is a kitchen right?) on my head.
3. Go to www.yorch.net, check mark on all appropriate options, then (since I have to Unix box and dont know Unix at all) just go for the easy option of cooking the .exe install file.
4. Assuming, the .exe is downloaded to my PC. This time I just run it. I expect this to be just like installing PPC apps. If not, throw a tomato on my face
5. Assuming everything worked and Murphy's in the Arctic freezing his A**e off, then all I do now is hard reset.
6. I have a new ROM and I'm singing happy-happy-joy-joy.
To the wonderful people at xda-developers, am I in the right direction or am I as lost as Bill and Ted? If I'm lost, is there a step-by-step guide for non-unix programmers? (Sorry, there was a sticky but I thought it was for people with Unix boxes)
Once again, thanks for all your help and your patience.

2. Backup?? (not so sure what to back up since contacts, calendar, notes are synched with outlook, docs are also synched, I have copies of cab and program files since I download them to PC before installing them to XDA.) If i'm missing something please slam a frying pan (this is a kitchen right?) on my head.
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well i can think of one thing to backup and thats your current rom
so if you dont like the new rom you are getting you have the option to go back
of cause if the rom you have now is downloadble from a place you know like your isp then maybe it dont matter

Thanks for the reply. That's a good point. Question: When you back up old ROM, is it just the ROM that gets backed up or is it the whole content of the device, like how you do in PCs?
Also, since no one, besides you, has made any comments regarding the steps that I outlined, is it safe to say that they are the correct steps?
Thanks

When you backup your ROM, no stuff that you customised will be in the backup - the backed up ROM will be the same as when you received it from your retail shop, or if you upgraded, it will be the upgraded ROM without any of your stuff. Do a backup and store it on your hard disk.
DON'T use the .exe cooked ROM, use a .nb1 or .nbf, and use XDA Tools from this site to do the upgrade. It's very easy that way, and less dangerous. Don't upgrade your radio stack unless you know exactly what you're doing, or your phone supplier has made an update available just for you.
If you use a T-Mobile ROM above version 4.00.05 it blocks the XDA-Tools from updating the ROM. At that point you need to use XDARIT (from this site) to low-level write the ROM image you have onto your SD card using an SD card reader which shows the card as another drive on your computer. Once you do that you need to boot into the boot-loader (press the reset button while holding the power button) and follow the prompts to restore from an SD card. If you're unlucky and are running bootloader 5.17 (or above I think) you need to write the bootloader diagnostics patch (wallaby patch from this site) onto your SD card first before doing the boot into the bootloader thing. You can then remove the SD card, write the O/S ROM onto it with XDRIT, and put it back into your phone while it's still sitting on in diagnostics mode. Then you can restore from the SD.
It sounds complicated, but it's easy, as long as you have an SD card reader, and as long as you don't mess with trying to update the bootloader or do an unknown radio update. There's lots of info in these forums if you get stuck.
I made a thread that summarised all the steps using the new tools and ROM's at this address : http://xda-developers.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=3860. It's for Asian/European users, but if you are in the US the instructions are the same, except instead of using European 900/1800 radio you use 900/1900.

Further questions on ROM update
Thanks. It's becoming clearer and clearer. Have more clarifying questions:
1. How do you know whether or not you're including the radio stack with the ROM upgrade at yorch.net. I did not see any options there.
2. At www. yorch.net, nothing happens when I press the "Build ROM Now" command button. Is the download supposed to happen in the background or is there something wrong with my PC or the site?
3. I dont think I'm using the T-mobile ROM but how do I know if I'm runing bootloader 5.17? Is bootloader 5.17 only for T-Mobile users or all?
Once again, thanks for the help and bearing with a newbie.

2. At www. yorch.net, nothing happens when I press the "Build ROM Now" command button. Is the download supposed to happen in the background or is there something wrong with my PC or the site?
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it should start to write some text about the progress of making the rom
and when it's finished then it should init a std download dialog

The meter down at the status bar does move, same as when you're loading a webpage, then it says Done. That's about it. Didnt see any other messages or dialogue boxes.
Can anyone confirm if it's up today or has it been down?
Thanks
PS. Tried to email using the email utility at the website but getting errors there as well.

OK, firstly to answer your question about Yorch's site... well it worked for me in getting all the ROM's I wanted, then when I went back again the download didn't work. I guess it's just on and off, so unless Yorch finishes getting married or someone else makes another kitchen it's a matter of pot luck. You can get away without using the kitchen if you can find another download source for ROM's, whether it be FTP or whatever. Just remember if you get an exe you can usually pull it apart with winzip to get the .nb1 or .nbf out of it.
Now, for Q1 :
An operating system ROM is generally just under 32MB, but when zipped from Yorch it's usually about 14 or 15MB - the operating system ROM will NEVER be smaller than that. I'm not sure about the exact radio stack size but I know it's a lot less than that. Also, doing some homework about the operating system ROM helps. eg. reading about the 4.01.00 ROM tells you that it's not a radio stack upgrade, it's an operating system upgrade - and the filename and the size of the file you receive reflects that.
Q2:
answered above...
Q3:
I think the bootloader is just pot-luck depending on when you phone was released. To check your bootloader it will reset your device completely, but I read somewhere that if you turn the radio (phone) off it doesn't hard reset. If you're worried, do a full backup first. But basically when you're ready to look, reset your phone while holding the power button and it will tell you the bootloader version. Don't be too turned off by that, I have read that SD card readers can be picked up very cheap if you look around, and that's all you need to get you out of trouble regardless of the bootloader version.
There's no real risk (but I won't guarantee anything), just make sure your phone is fully charged before mucking about with SD upgrades. Also make sure the radio (phone) is switched off before upgrading... using the bootloader/sd card method you shouldn't need to be concerned. I'm not sure what effect having your phone on and receiving a call while using XDA-Tools can have, but someone did mention it somewhere.
I'm a newbie too, but there's really not much you need to know, just a few caveats.

Yorch's Kitchen has been working OK for me the last couple of days. It takes maybe about 5 mins to "cook" before telling me that the ROM is ready. The 4.00.05 ROM gave me a lot of ActiveSync problems, so I went to the 4.00.16 ROM tonight and it looks like it's behaving better.
My SD reader is a Microtech Zio. It appears as a disk drive in windows, but the newer XDArit can't initialize a connection to write to the SD card. I used the "dangerous" older version of XDArit instead (available on Yorch's site), and it's worked OK for me (so far?).
One thing I wish I had realized before I started playing - going into the bootloader will reset your phone most (some?) (all?) of the time.
While I was flashing the ROM tonight I could see the GSM light flashing - I had the same "hope no one calls" feeling tht others must have had. Note that this was while I was flashing from an SD card in the bootloader - so apparently the process doesn't deactivate the phone while it's ongoing.

Muchas Gracias!
Ebswift, if ur a newbie then ur the god of the newbies. Thanks for all the help and for making me see the light. Much appreciated...

A quick Q:
Is the process for installing an .nbf file the same as that for installing an .nb1 file?
I have cooked a few ROMS to an .nb1 format and installed those OK, but now I have one in .nbf that I'd like to install.
So what I'd plan to do is put the nbf onto an SD card using XDArit, and then stick the card in the PPCPE and reboot to the loader. Is that it?

So what I'd plan to do is put the nbf onto an SD card using XDArit, and then stick the card in the PPCPE and reboot to the loader. Is that it?
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You can do it that way (onto the SD card), or if you're not already using a T-Mobile ROM you can use XDA Tools which is easier. Basically the capabilities are spelled out for you with the available file types in the drop downs when you select a source.

Plz help..

Hi all. I just got Wing and its my first WM phone. I need help and I'm asking after I did all the searching possible and got some tips but I was unable to fix the problem Im having. I am not exactly what you would call a noob as I have flashed and moded many phones with Moto, Blackberry, Symbian and Linux Mobile OS's. Ok enough bragging haha.
Anyways I have downloaded the Herald-USPL-Beta3 and the NBH file and followed the exact instructions. The USPL is extracted in C:\, the folder is named "upgrade" and the NBH file is extracted to the RUU folder within the USPL folder. I have fresh install on Tmobile branded SPL higher than 4.0 and have installed the .CAB file found in the USPL and have softreseted the phone.
I have done this like 10 times already and every time I try to flash I get this:
The system cannot find the path specified. Then it starts to say 25%, 50%, 75% and then it says I should have the Active Sync icon gray and my phone screen blank. Well that never happens and when I hit Enter anyways it says that its lunching the RUU and two seconds later it tells me its all good to go and to hit Enter and when I do it exits out.
I have also turned the firewall off and hev no antivirus running.
Please help!
I was amazed of how modable this phone seemed but it looks like it going on EBAY and my SIM back in my Blackberry Curve..
Thanks!
ps Today I tried different PC and same thing happened..

wow.. anybody?
I'm starting to think Im either an idiot or I have the only Wing on this forum that wouldnt flash..

Help Please - renamed registry folder & can't change it back!

What a numpty!
I was trying to get HTC Home Weather working thru T-Mobile UK using v1.5HTCHomeproxy0409.cab (without success), so went into the registry using Total Commander to check the Proxy settings.
Unfortunately I got as far as \\\Registry\HKLM and was trying to double click the "Software" folder but instead it went into edit folder name mode and whilst distracted by the wife managed to change the folder name to "n"
Whatever I try, I can't rename it "Software". I've tried creating a new "Software" folder and copying the files across, but a few won't copy:
/Apps/Shared/ "\Windows\mscoree.dll" and
/Apps/Shared/ "\Windows\Intellipad.dll" and
plus some .NET Compact Framework files in /Microsoft/ folder - but I'm guessing these are something the prev user had and wont affect the normal functions / programmes I will use
so... is there any way I can put the files I moved from
\\\Registry\HKLM\Software back, do I need to etc ????
Would appreciate a bit of advice from someone less accident prone!!!!
Its a (recently bought off eBay) , ex T Mob (UK I think) unbranded with HTC home etc. Can't work out how to see what version of HTCHome was on, but guess I've written over it with the proxy.cab now - the icons have changes and have lost today screen battery indicator, but that's a problem for another day!
Not sure what the ROM is, if its an original or cooked (OS ID looks normal to me, WM5?), but ExtROM looks like its been hacked by its name - dferriera WM5SE
G4 Wizard
ipl 2.21.0001
spl 2.21.0lip
gsm (radio?) 02.71.11
os 2.26.10.2 WWE

Well, if it wont change back, you can always hard reset or reflash to a new ROM...and if you do the later, all of the prerequisites have been done for you, you have HardSPL allplied already, and the correct radio ROM version for most of the ROMs, so you can flash away!

Thanks Ashasaur.
As you've probably noted from my profile and foolish behaviour, I'm new to this, does anyone mind just explaining the above comments on the ROM flash for me please?
-all of the prerequisites (?) have been done for you
-you have HardSPL (?) applied already: Is this related to the Server Proxy I've been trying to patch to HTC home for the weather fix?
-and the correct radio ROM version for most of the ROMs: does that mean I need to be careful I pick a ROM to match my radio version somehow?
If I can't find a way to rename the registry file, I'll have to go for a hard reboot, ROM flashing will be my next project once I feel I've done enough reading to understand what I'm doing and what not to do!
Thanks.

In order:
1-Prerequisites)-You have got HardSPL flashed succesfully to your device which leads to;
2-HardSPL)-Since you have a G4 device, in order to flash a non-carrier ROM you have to have HardSPL applied to your device, and you can tell that yours has been done by your IPL and SPL. Your IPL or 2.21.0001 indicates that you have a G4 Wizard, and your SPL or 2.21.Olip means that you have HardSPL applied already, otherwise you would have had to do it in order to be able to flash any ROMs...which leads to;
3-Radio)-What I mean by correct radio for most of the ROMs is that 2.71.11 is regarded as one of the more stable radio ROMs out there, and together with version 2.19.X, they are the preferred versions, though any version will work with any ROM, some work better than others.
Hope that helps!

Yes it does, thanks - especially now it has prompted me to read the wiki on hardSPL.
So maybe flashing a new ROM is not too far away...
Does the ROM contain the Windows operating system, in which case can I upgrade to WM6 / 6.1 (version currently says WM5) on my device, will I find a selection with info on what's in them on the downloads pages? (can't get access right now for some reason)
Cheers

I just did this today with my Touch Pro, it's alarmingly easy to break your device like this.
I think I have it fixed ... after I made the mistaken renaming, the device had locked up (or grown very slow) so I soft reset it. That rebuilt a large portion of the Software folder. After that, I copied the remaining keys in the renamed folder to clipboard and overwrote whatever was in the new Software folder.
Phone seems to be back to normal, but I'll be on the lookout for anything that didn't quite work. If that's the case I may have to hard reset.

@burnsy, yes, most of the download pages contain what the ROMs have in them, but I would look at my review thread in the Wizard Mobile 6 section...its called ROM Features......such such such, its got a list and ratings of the ROMs that you may find interesting.

Nice one ashasaur, sounds like just what I want. Should keep me off he streets...
Dr G, seems you're getting on a bit better than I am - my device won't let me copy all the files into the new folder. Noticed that I can receive but no longer send email, even after deleting and reinstalling my account, but that could equally have been caused by the htc home proxy files I was playing with!
I feel a hard reset coming on...

[ROM] T01A English Rom

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Fully Charge.
Unrar SDDL.rar,copy all files to storage card
Unrar T01A_to_SP50_wm65-new_theduyet.rar and Create prg folder in storage card and copy enc file after unrar into it.
Remove the SIM Card
- Remove the black plastic tab under where the SIM lies
- Replace the battery
- Secure the battery - use Velcro cable tie, rubber band or sticky tape [vital it does not fall out while Flashing ! ]
- Short (connect together) Pin 1 and Pin 3; then press the Reset Button
- Hold for 10 seconds or so; then release
- Turn phone over and should show white Flash screen in progress until completed and says Successful - Rebooting
Link SDDL: http://t0a.duyet.com/SDDL.rar
Link Rom :http://t0a.duyet.com/T01A_to_SP50_wm65-new_theduyet.rar
Shorten pin Method
See Pic: http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/9964/img0023lp.jpg
To enter downloader mode bridge pin 1 and 3 and press reset. release reset and keep bridge for few seconds. DO NOT PRESS RESET AGAIN. check screen and see what happens.
Secure your battery with duct tape it can drop very easy. If you use short pin method it can drop while you turn phone with screen up. Since you will turn phone just after you reset it will be flashing bootloader and and phone will be bricked for ever.
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This is the ROM file for T01A only(a japanese version of TG01) .It is made from UK ORANGE ROM for TG01 with modifying.It can NOT work with TG01 or X02T
If you like this rom ,you can make a donation for cedesmith *Link Removed* who found the key for decrypting

It works. Thank you...

i,i will need the unlock code to use my phone?because i live in japan and still gonna use docomo simcard

Following Cedesmith ,the T01A is still locked by docomo after flashing.
So you can continue to use your phone.

tks,I'll try to do it soom
Your phone is working great?Any issues?

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Fully Charge.
Unrar SDDL.rar,copy all files to storage card
Unrar T01A_to_SP50_wm65-new_theduyet.rar and Create prg folder in storage card and copy enc file after unrar into it.
Remove the SIM Card
- Remove the black plastic tab under where the SIM lies
- Replace the battery
- Secure the battery - use Velcro cable tie, rubber band or sticky tape [vital it does not fall out while Flashing ! ]
- Short (connect together) Pin 1 and Pin 3; then press the Reset Button
- Hold for 10 seconds or so; then release
- Turn phone over and should show white Flash screen in progress until completed and says Successful - Rebooting
Link SDDL: http://t0a.duyet.com/SDDL.rar
Link Rom :http://t0a.duyet.com/T01A_to_SP50_wm65-new_theduyet.rar
Shorten pin Method
If you like this rom ,you can make a donation for cedesmith who made Tg01 tool and Cotulla who found the key for decrypting
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Mr.Mike, I'll use your method description for a common post for everyone about how to flash a TG01 and link it from any ROM posted, I hope that doesn't bother you.

Works fine,i loved!
thanks a lot to all...

Mr.Mike, I'll use your method description for a common post for everyone about how to flash a TG01 and link it from any ROM posted, I hope that doesn't bother you
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No problem...It doesn't bother me.
In this thread,i also use the content from the other users's posts

I can't conect to the docomo internet...How to fix this please?
Phone is working fine,but I don't know how to configure docomo network

Because your internet configuration is the configuration for Orange.So you should contact Domoco to get the information about this or you can "googling"
Beside that,you can use a program to automatic configuration as HTC Network Wizard.

Try this my friend
http://oldsap.blogspot.com/2008/04/network-wizard.html
I currently use the same version as from that link but my "about page" have no HTC logo.
If it doesn't work on your T01A, please tell me I will upload another file for you

Hi Tra,with your simunlock,Can you access internet as GPRS or 3G.
Now ,does your sim unlock work well?I think that maybe i need to buy another sim unlock...

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Hi Tra,with your simunlock,Can you access internet as GPRS or 3G.
Now ,does your sim unlock work well?I think that maybe i need to buy another sim unlock...
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Yes, it still works well. I get full signal bar instead of 3 bars.
Now I can still access internet through EDGE (it's 17 hours after I flashed your ROM). It ""may"" get 3G signal but I cannot test 3G because my carrier doesn't support 3G.
I think different ROM may somehow act differently to simunlock (just my theory).
I hope the signal will not lose shortly.
Some simunlock make a phone usable by telling that it is in roaming mode (I think you guys already known). My "3G" simunlock also works like that.
However, some simunlock tell the phone that it's used in China so every time you want to find your location in Google map, it always points you at some where in China (experienced from one of "i-smart phone" simunlock model but other models of this brand works well with Docomo's Touch PRO).Unfortunately, I don't know how to check and avoid from buying this poor quality simunlock.
....Just poped up in my thought. My T01A's radio version is 5005.1901.20.
I used to update every patch update from Docomo for Japanese ROM (I mean every update for 6.1 and 6.5) that may updated my radio. If your T01A radio rom has the older version from mine, try to find the way to flash back to Japanese ROM and update it before flash modified UK ROM.
Again, I may be wrong

tra33372 said:
Yes, it still works well. I get full signal bar instead of 3 bars.
Now I can still access internet through EDGE (it's 17 hours after I flashed your ROM). It ""may"" get 3G signal but I cannot test 3G because my carrier doesn't support 3G.
I think different ROM may somehow act differently to simunlock (just my theory).
I hope the signal will not lose shortly.
Some simunlock make a phone usable by telling that it is in roaming mode (I think you guys already known). My "3G" simunlock also works like that.
However, some simunlock tell the phone that it's used in China so every time you want to find your location in Google map, it always points you at some where in China (experienced from one of "i-smart phone" simunlock model but other models of this brand works well with Docomo's Touch PRO).Unfortunately, I don't know how to check and avoid from buying this poor quality simunlock.
....Just poped up in my thought. My T01A's radio version is 5005.1901.20.
I used to update every patch update from Docomo for Japanese ROM (I mean every update for 6.1 and 6.5) that may updated my radio. If your T01A radio rom has the older version from mine, try to find the way to flash back to Japanese ROM and update it before flash modified UK ROM.
Again, I may be wrong
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what is roaming mode?

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what is roaming mode?
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The phone will show a triangle on the taskbar when it detect that our T01A's used outside Japan. This is Roaming mode.
See my the second attatched picture.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654373&page=4
In roaming mode, the signal is quite unstable (depends on various factors eg. phone, simunlock and the quality of your SIM).
What is your radio version?

OK。。。I see，my phone have no roaming mode....
my radio version is 5005.1901.20,too

Yeah, but I can't adjust the setting to use the GPRS function with my Mr.sim.And the signal is very unstable, only in city center, outside I will get "no service" meassage

Work with X02T too?
plz you know if this new way for flash the TG01 japanese will work with X02T too? or just with T01A?

You should contact to cotulla and he can find the encrypt key ,maybe the x02 rom is different with t01A... after that you contact cedesmith to add this key into tgtool...
and maybe you need to create a English rom for X02T by your self .It's not difficult....

have any way for check if the key or Rom will work with my X02T (TG01 by SoftBank)?

[Q] Newbie In need of HELP!! with htc touch

I bought a HTC touch with Android on it off ebay for sprint. I did not even know that this phone did not come with android to show how little I know about phones... So I tried to activate it and that worked fine till I got to the part where you enter the ##nnnnnn# number to put in the msid. So ops it dont work. I dont even know how to get files on my phone, when I plu it in it does come up under ky computer. I can put stuff on the memory card but don't know how to use it under android. Some one told some else on this forum that you have to flash it back to windows change it and flash it back. there was another person that said to use a plrgram on the phone called get spc or something like that which I tried but I don't know how to get it from the memory card to the phone or how to run the program off the memroy card with android. I used Astro (don't enen know if that is what astro is for) and tried to launch the program in the phone and it said it didn't know what to do with and exe file. I am so stuck. Sorry to be such a pain.. Can any one help. All I really want to do is change the msid and that msn number or what ever that second number is called.
Thanks everyone.
Randy

Post screen shots+problem details
please
breife with details

Sprint are CDMA no? That means you have an Vogue, not an elf. Whilst your lucky you can have froyo, you have also ended up in the wrong section. Hopefully a mod will move this

Moved to Vogue section.
As for your problem, I personally don't know how to mess with programming settings on Android (I know it can be done via CDMA Workshop, but you need to get the program to do this and even still it isn't easy). Flash back to WM (look for NFSFan's rom, you should be able to flash with no issues as your phone is unlocked). Once you have flashed, you can easily do the PST programming from the Phone Codes folder. You can flash back to Android afterwards.
I hope this helps.