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[Quadrant Scrores] HD2 vs Other Android phones

Why is it that when we bench Android HD2 vs other phones, our scores come out superior or near superior?
I've seen scores that have reached hundreds ahead the nexus one froyo (OC and Not)
I mean, we are using builds off the SD card.
Does that mean, if we get NAND support, android on our HD2 will be absolutely blazing fast?
Or does it mean that our quadrant scores are all wrong considering that we can only run android off SD?

I've been wanting to know this myself. I hit 1900 on quadrant yesterday and 44.6 mflops on linpack. Am I supposed to believe that my HD2 can absolutely murder a stock nexus one on froyo while running a work-in-progress android build off an SD card?

With what rom/android build combo did you get 1900? I don't get higher than 1550. Shubcraft 1.4d r8 kernel with energy basic rom.
12.50 radio iirc.
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Machiel187 said:
With what rom/android build combo did you get 1900? I don't get higher than 1550. Shubcraft 1.4d r8 kernel with energy basic rom.
12.50 radio iirc.
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Energy Dinik glass winmo rom
Shubcraft 1.4d with R8 running at 1.19 Ghz
Radio 2.10.50.26
I don't consistently get 1900 though. I get anywhere from 1600-1900ish.
Try settings setcpu to performance mode and push to 1190 Mhz if you can and close all your apps. You should be able to get the same. Some other users here know some additional tweaks and they are able to break 1900 even without overclocking so high.

Managed to get to 1657 already with the performance mode on. Curious about those tweaks. Isnt there a tool like the bsb tweaks for winmo?
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Got the highest Quadrant score yet running Energy Standard Aug. 18 ROM and mattc LeoNexus with TouchWiz: 1527 - I haven't installed setCPU either.

Some high scores here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=754675&highlight=quadrant

i dont understand whats this about , because its not about devlopment ....general thread

lemonspeakers said:
Why is it that when we bench Android HD2 vs other phones, our scores come out superior or near superior?
I've seen scores that have reached hundreds ahead the nexus one froyo (OC and Not)
I mean, we are using builds off the SD card.
Does that mean, if we get NAND support, android on our HD2 will be absolutely blazing fast?
Or does it mean that our quadrant scores are all wrong considering that we can only run android off SD?
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You should take a look at the evo 4g scores.Custom roms are pushing their scores over 2300.

Go to bad man, the benchmark doesn't matter
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miclaus_man said:
Go to bad man, the benchmark doesn't matter
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exactly but not so brash

It's because we're comparing against stock benchmarks.
The vibrant should be benchmarking best if it's running froyo and overclocked I think.
The only reason nexus one scores high is that froyo does a wayyyy better job of utilizing the cpu.
From what I understand, the motorola and hummingbird samsung processors actually have better gpus so they would bench better with froyo.
Just remember, we're overclocking Running custom builds, stock is always gonna be slower.
Sent from my HTC HD2 running Android 2.2 Froyo.

Just installed setCPU and achieved a score of 1700.

lemonspeakers said:
Why is it that when we bench Android HD2 vs other phones, our scores come out superior or near superior?
I've seen scores that have reached hundreds ahead the nexus one froyo (OC and Not)
I mean, we are using builds off the SD card.
Does that mean, if we get NAND support, android on our HD2 will be absolutely blazing fast?
Or does it mean that our quadrant scores are all wrong considering that we can only run android off SD?
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We get the scores we do due to the I/O performance being off down to running off the SD card.
This my setup running like for like against a Nexus One, as you can see we're almost identical in all departments except the I/O Performance.
See Screenshot.
Phil

kerman19 said:
We get the scores we do due to the I/O performance being off down to running off the SD card.
This my setup running like for like against a Nexus One, as you can see we're almost identical in all departments except the I/O Performance.
See Screenshot.
Phil
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Uh. Bigger bars = better, right? If so, that screenshot says the I/O on your HD2 is better than every phone listed there except for the Droid X. How can that be?

Those are all stock comparations.
My brother just got a Samsung Galaxy s i9000 and we bechmark it and it gave us only around 800 after a root is device and installed the samsung lag fix it went straight to 2200+ still running the stock rom thats 3x faster then it was before the system was touched with any fixes.
So i say if you score around 1000+ running from a SD card with out overclock on the HD2 its pretty good and reaching 1400+ thats even great. In what i can see is if we get android running from or NAND we can easy reach 2200+.
So when you comparing the benchmarks its only comparing with the stock you can expect too double the stock benchmarks if not triple it too see how you device realy compare too others .

Why does the droid x have such high I/O scores?

Installed a fresh mattc LeoNexus using only the stock launcher. I installed setCPU and adjusted settings according to the ones from starbase64 here
I achieved a score of 2185.

MartyLK said:
Just installed setCPU and achieved a score of 1700.
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Do you think you can post the setcpu.txt for achieving this score?
thanks =)

MartyLK said:
Installed a fresh mattc LeoNexus using only the stock launcher. I installed setCPU and adjusted settings according to the ones from starbase64 here
I achieved a score of 2185.
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Gah! someone beat me to the 2k barrier.... i got 1960 the other day, trying to reproduce..

Post Your Quadrant Benchmark Scores! (HD2)

Hey everyone. Please Benchmark using Quadrant and Post your Score along with a screen shot or picture of your score.
Also please state if you tested your phone under default stock conditions, or if you rooted and tweaked the heck out of it to get the high score you got.
You can download Quadrant. Go To Android Market and search Quadrant.
MY Score : 2799
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I am running CM 6.1 Stable and getting about 2300-2350 quadrant score (setCPU scaling between 245 and 1200). What are you running to get 2800?
Edit: Had weather bug running in the BG, now getting around 2500.

That's the highest quadrant score I've EVER seen from any first gen. Snapdragon device. What do you have it overclocked to? On my mt4g (second gen snapdragon with dedicated gpu) overclocked to 1600mhz on a deodexed, zip aligned rom, I just barely go above 2800 on quadrant.
I had an HD2 and a Nexus and never came remotely close to those numbers on any rom/kernel/clock speed combination. I've messed with and flashed many Evos, overclocked within reason, that also average literally half of that.
Since your post count is 2 and youve already opened a 'bragging rights' type thread, I'm going to have to call BS on this. Sorry, I just call it how I see it. Or hey, maybe you're just the chosen one and have a magic phone.
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I am absolutely thrilled with a score of 2500. I have been using a G1 for the past year and a half and I decided it was finally time to upgrade. My G1 was only getting about 580 with CM 6.1 (and that was an amazing score). I was debating whether to get a MyTouch 4G, G2 or an HD2 with the Android off the SD card. I was able to pick up an HD2 for $200 off craigslist and boy I do not regret it. I don't know how this phone can run Android off the SD card faster than off the nand, but I am thrilled. By the way I am using a Class 10 4 GB SD Card, if that makes much of a difference.
Only this I wish it could do is play my 720p videos without the codec getting all blocky/laggy. But that is probably asking way too much.

Is 2500 on stock clock speed? There must be some serious speed enhancements here recently, last I used a dual booted HD2 it was only in the 1300 range, same with my nexus, and two Evos. My nexus will max around 1800 with the miui rom overclocked to 1100mhz or so..Is there something special with the HD2's hardware that I'm missing or is this the norm now?
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I am using HD2ONE 0.3.4b based on CM 6.1 Stable (CM is awesome BTW). I am using setCPU to run the phone at 1190mhz clock, but it still gets great Benchmarks without. I have been using CM for about a year now on my G1. It is built for speed and memory improvements as these were necessities to keep my G1 alive and kicking up until now. I would assume anyone who can't break the 2000 point quadrant score might want to take a look at HD2ONE and CM.
PS.
Also, this is the T-Mobile HTC HD2, so perhaps the 1gb ram helps as well.

I still don't see the point in benchmarks. I used to have a build (it shall remain nameless) that got over 2400 in quadrant but the UI itself was slow as all hell. My current build (in sig) get's 1700 ish but is smooth as melted butter. I'd rather have a smooth OS than a cooked phone as well.

I'm not sure about your unnamed os but cyanogenmod is running smooth as butter
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Ok and yet again here we go.
Your scores are so insane high because of what apears to be bug in the benchmarking of the SD card. Your device is NOT ultra wtf pownage fast. Its nothing to boast about. Its just a glitch. I had a build that did 3100 and still the build from darkstone is 100% faster and only pulling 1600 points.
Benchmarks are fun to measure on devices that run off NAND not SD so for the love of god STOP the benchmark topics.

shuntje said:
Ok and yet again here we go.
Your scores are so insane high because of what apears to be bug in the benchmarking of the SD card. Your device is NOT ultra wtf pownage fast. Its nothing to boast about. Its just a glitch. I had a build that did 3100 and still the build from darkstone is 100% faster and only pulling 1600 points.
Benchmarks are fun to measure on devices that run off NAND not SD so for the love of god STOP the benchmark topics.
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I knew it had to be something to do with Android running off the SD card and not NAND, those numbers are just insane for the setups. Thank you for clearing that up sir.

shuntje said:
Ok and yet again here we go.
Your scores are so insane high because of what apears to be bug in the benchmarking of the SD card. Your device is NOT ultra wtf pownage fast. Its nothing to boast about. Its just a glitch. I had a build that did 3100 and still the build from darkstone is 100% faster and only pulling 1600 points.
Benchmarks are fun to measure on devices that run off NAND not SD so for the love of god STOP the benchmark topics.
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Well it's not just a glitch. cedesmith's asynchronous data method actually does improve i/o by a huge amount. There are a few spots where the SuperRam build feels faster than the desire_hd2 and hd2one 3.4 but it's really not that big a difference. Plus the battery drain is not as good on the SuperRam.
This is one of the builds shuntje is talking about. Cedesmith's desire_hd2, running slightly overclocked at 1.19. No other tweaks.

I do not think that this result came from a gap in the program
my phone is so fast
now in benchmark >>> my socre is 2963 !!!!
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buzz killington said:
Well it's not just a glitch. cedesmith's asynchronous data method actually does improve i/o by a huge amount. There are a few spots where the SuperRam build feels faster than the desire_hd2 and hd2one 3.4 but it's really not that big a difference. Plus the battery drain is not as good on the SuperRam.
This is one of the builds shuntje is talking about. Cedesmith's desire_hd2, running slightly overclocked at 1.19. No other tweaks.
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how did u get that high io score ?
i can barley get 5k at 1.2ghz
ish i get higher score with lower oc just 1.07ghz
overall without 2d/3d 2560
cpu 5800
io 5900
1.11ghz
overall without 2d/3d 2600
cpu 6400 io 5700

civicvx94 said:
Is 2500 on stock clock speed? There must be some serious speed enhancements here recently, last I used a dual booted HD2 it was only in the 1300 range, same with my nexus, and two Evos. My nexus will max around 1800 with the miui rom overclocked to 1100mhz or so..Is there something special with the HD2's hardware that I'm missing or is this the norm now?
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I don't know the details, but recently I've noticed a bunch of people here posting quadrant scores in the 2100-2400+ range.
I score about 2000 @1.19 Ghz, but my build is quite a bit older than the new ones.
There definitely seem to have been some optimizations done in the most recent builds, especially the one by darkstone which does something like load the entire android filesystem in memory or something.
I'll have to try a newer build.

poweroutlet said:
I don't know the details, but recently I've noticed a bunch of people here posting quadrant scores in the 2100-2400+ range.
I score about 2000 @1.19 Ghz, but my build is quite a bit older than the new ones.
There definitely seem to have been some optimizations done in the most recent builds, especially the one by darkstone which does something like load the entire android filesystem in memory or something.
I'll have to try a newer build.
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Most all the big numbers come from the i/o improvements. You'll know if you see the build uses cedesmith's initrd. Using asynchronous read/write improves performance but also has a higher chance of corrupting the data file.
Just off the top of my head, these builds all are using it: cedesmith's desire_hd2, hd2one, jdms, darkstone's superram also uses it for his build.

i am using HD2ONE ROM , latest version.. my quadrant score is 2200+..
after flushing 10-15 ROMs its first time i got 2200+
i m running Radio 2.15.50.xx

yha, benchmarks are great braging rights.
ive run roms that bench silly high, but ive also run roms that bench " slow" but in real workd performance kick the crap out of the " fast" roms.
atleast some one did a benchmark from the payed version so it breaks it all down, and shows actual usefull info...

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The reason its scoring so high is because of i/o. I believe that's the wrong metric to look at because i believe i/o is dependent on what memory card you have. If you pay attention to the other scores, all of these screenshots are right on par with the nexus one 2.2+. Still awesome, but don't brag that your benchmark is uber leet, as its probably the same or close to everyone else here regardless of build.
To test my theory, load the same build on another SD card, preferably one that has a lower class (lower read and write speeds) and then run the benchmark and post results.
I will also test a build with cedesmiths initrid explained earlier and post my results
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Htc hd2 with over 4000 score on quadrant with darkstone super ram nand rom and magldr

phoenixtraveller said:
Hi.
What are people getting on quadrant scores with this (DARKSTONE super-nand-ram rom-IMG) ???
I got 4050. OVER 4000!!!
That is on an Australian HD2 (850mhz with 2.08 radio and magldr 1.11).
and NO OVER CLOCKING AND NO TWEAKS - second boot (first reboot).
Can you make this version compatible with 1536OC kernel or any OC kernel?
THANKS.
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ALSO: anyone tell me how to get Ubuntu working on NAND/MAGLDR?

How difficult are these rom versions. I boot off sd card but am plagued by very poor battery life. Very poor.
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Chris Boyer said:
How difficult are these rom versions. I boot off sd card but am plagued by very poor battery life. Very poor.
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As info...the mods will most likely move this post because I think it is in the wrong forum.
As far as how hard, in my opinion, the NAND versions are not difficult to install if you are used to flashing winmo roms. The other types (zip, clockwork) are a little more advanced. I'm sure I could flash them, but do not see the benefit yet. FutureShocks MIUI has been the best I have used so far. It does not score well in Quandrant (for me) but everything is almost instant to my touch. I love the minor differences of the MIUI interface too.

Chris Boyer said:
How difficult are these rom versions. I boot off sd card but am plagued by very poor battery life. Very poor.
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Battery life in almost every nand build is super! As good as in original winmo and in some cases even better.
Tested myself more than a few roms.

Any screenshots?

4050 score means NOTHING.
At least you should attach screenshot from pro version of Quadrant as it shows score per cpu/gpu/io ect. As it's RAM build, there is a chance that Quadrant IO test would also run on RAM, but think it's on NAND resulting in large numbers, but actual data reads would be still NAND, and GPU/CPU score might even be lower then in other builds with 2000 total score.
For example you might have 2 builds, one with 1200 score, one with 1500 score, and it doesn't mean that 1500 is better as it's overall score based on different weight per component score. So you can only say that 1500 is always better then 1200 if that's CPU or GPU score, not total.

bjcolema said:
As info...the mods will most likely move this post because I think it is in the wrong forum.
As far as how hard, in my opinion, the NAND versions are not difficult to install if you are used to flashing winmo roms. The other types (zip, clockwork) are a little more advanced. I'm sure I could flash them, but do not see the benefit yet. FutureShocks MIUI has been the best I have used so far. It does not score well in Quandrant (for me) but everything is almost instant to my touch. I love the minor differences of the MIUI interface too.
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Yeah - it was moved here by Mods from other location so correct now. Yes, they are EASY to install and even clockwork/zip are easy. and if you modify flash.cfg you can have BOTH working in harmony easily (just adding in the lines from clockwork's .cfg and not touching ones belonging to ur daf.exe nand etc).
Futureshocks was great for MIUI. was ok quadrant for me - 2800. but not a MIUI guy really - ppc_shift_ has WINDOWS 7 GUI on ANDROID!
BUT: mdjOC1536 - excellent kernel and yet overall: DARKSTONE supernand rules and broke over 4000. EXCELLENT. ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.
Ive got Ubuntu up to desktop too with magldr.
when 1.12 comes out - anyone having upgrade complications etc?
I task28, task29 and ALSO TASK2A BY MTTY USB as I made my own rom to exit "bricked" mode this leaves. Not that hard really.
Darkstone, SuperNAND, 4000 quadrant+ !!!

white-energy said:
Any screenshots?
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For my over 4000?
Yeah... I can do that... Had bad blocks though - over-flashing and bit unstable at first: after 24hrs rom "burnt" in or whatever and working so ill install a shoot-screen app and do.
It doesnt mean THAT much though. Really.

vartp said:
4050 score means NOTHING.
At least you should attach screenshot from pro version of Quadrant as it shows score per cpu/gpu/io ect. As it's RAM build, there is a chance that Quadrant IO test would also run on RAM, but think it's on NAND resulting in large numbers, but actual data reads would be still NAND, and GPU/CPU score might even be lower then in other builds with 2000 total score.
For example you might have 2 builds, one with 1200 score, one with 1500 score, and it doesn't mean that 1500 is better as it's overall score based on different weight per component score. So you can only say that 1500 is always better then 1200 if that's CPU or GPU score, not total.
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Ok. I was not THAT geed up about it really. It fluctuates anyway: lowest=3600. And using Quadrant STANDARD/FREE I got 4000. got 360ms on Setcpu test pls Smartass. Only at 10% increase. 4000 was WITHOUT any overclocking.
I agree it varies and does not mean much but - well - I also disagree it means NOTHING.

lms1407 said:
Battery life in almost every nand build is super! As good as in original winmo and in some cases even better.
Tested myself more than a few roms.
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Yep - much more than a few. Any bad blocks/problems? Task2a idea ever come into mind? Can be done - ive made a psuedo-rom to truly clean it and bring back: well - more a method and an edited rom from stock to bypass rsa fail crypto test etc. nothing here on xda much about Task2a/HD2. Anyways:
NAND/battery=great.
MAGLDR/battery=bad=kills it+HEAT I believe. charge problem plus sucks out the LIFE.

Hello, is this mic on...

Hi, sorry about this lame excuse for OP but apparently I need 10 posts before I post anything on the related forums
Anyway, I'll use this and ask a couple of questions anyway.
I've been using Android on my HD2 since I bought it, first on SD and lately on NAND, in the last flashes my phone appears more sluggish.
Used Desire L from dandiest and while it gets great Quadrant scores (above 2000) it's freaking slow, some Ginger builds I get low scores and phone works faster and smoother, tho I hate it's keyboard.
I've done the task29, that apparently formats the phone, and everything. Radio 2.15, Malgr 1.3
Atm using maesusbuild and still sluggish.

is there anybody out there?

Most Android ROMs for the HD2 have over clocking built into the ROM. Some ROM chefs just provide the overclocking for you and let you decide if you want to overclock. Some ROm chefs have it overclocked already. You have to check to see Wichita is the case with each ROm usually. If the ROM you have sluggish behavior with is not overclockedcalready try slightly overclocking and see if it helps.

T-Macgnolia said:
Most Android ROMs for the HD2 have over clocking built into the ROM. Some ROM chefs just provide the overclocking for you and let you decide if you want to overclock. Some ROm chefs have it overclocked already. You have to check to see Wichita is the case with each ROm usually. If the ROM you have sluggish behavior with is not overclockedcalready try slightly overclocking and see if it helps.
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if by overclocking you mean messing with SetCpu and increase it's frequency, yep that is weird, for instance, with dandiest Rom I can get the cpu up to 1.5ghz and get 2500 score on quadrant, but playing with it just feels sluggish, on the other hand some ginger roms with 1600 score appear faster.
I know it's weird, maybe an app process killer helps?

Mods please remove this post.

Yes I am talking about SETCPU when I say overclocking. To be honest I have never messed with any testing software to get quadrant scores and the such. But I have read several threads where members get into heated descussions on the reliability of quadrant scores cause as you well know you can get lower quadrant scores than other devices or ROMs but still experience faster and smoother operations than the devices or ROMs with higher quadrant scores. You see as we all know the processor(CPU) is what actually responsible for the speed and smoothness of the operation of the device at its core. But it also depends on how the sofware intractable with the CPU as to the smoothness of operation as well. There for you will get some ROMs that are smooth and fast and some ROMs that are not as smooth and fast. With Android it also has alot Toronto with the kernel too, sometimes changing or modifying the kernel can help with performance. Please don't ask me about how to do this with the kernel though as I am still learning myself. Also yes a good task killer can help some.

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well just to point out. Quadrant is nothing more than a trophy wife. It's only there to show off what may not exist. If it runs smooth, then use it.
Also desire hd and z builds, you can't expect them to run smooth like a gingerbread build, or desire build, it's just like that.
Edit: You can just install another keyboard if you like. A keyboard similar to HTC's own is HTC IME mod. Search it up and you'll find it.

hi again..

Kailkti said:
well just to point out. Quadrant is nothing more than a trophy wife. It's only there to show off what may not exist. If it runs smooth, then use it.
Also desire hd and z builds, you can't expect them to run smooth like a gingerbread build, or desire build, it's just like that.
Edit: You can just install another keyboard if you like. A keyboard similar to HTC's own is HTC IME mod. Search it up and you'll find it.
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I may try a ginger build and a different keyboard.
Now I'm having a problem, bought a 16gb adata card and last night started getting some errors, took it out and ran h2testw and it worked ok, can it be the rom?

thx for the tip

if I install with CWM can I change the keyboard inside the zip?

Iunno, i'm not familiar with building roms and such. Anyways it doesn't hurt to just install the keyboard after the rom is booted.
For the sd card, try format it will panasonic formatter, full format btw.

benchmark question

Hi! i made a benchmark on the hd2 both with android froyo and ics hwa and i noticed that the rom with the higest point is the froyo one! i got 1100 for the ics and ~1400 for the froyo one, wich beated also the nexus s.
this is really strange because the gaming performances of froyo are terrible (i had ~2-3 fps with gta3), and it's also slow with the sense 2 homescreen management.
is this normal? thanks

cuzzo94 said:
Hi! i made a benchmark on the hd2 both with android froyo and ics hwa and i noticed that the rom with the higest point is the froyo one! i got 1100 for the ics and ~1400 for the froyo one, wich beated also the nexus s.
this is really strange because the gaming performances of froyo are terrible (i had ~2-3 fps with gta3), and it's also slow with the sense 2 homescreen management.
is this normal? thanks
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Were both ROMs nand or SD? Cause the difference could be in the io speeds. You should post screen shots of both results
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Yes it's normal because the phone devotes more resources to hwa, which is what makes your games fast. Phones get relatively lower quadrant score on ics. So it's not accurate to compare it if you changed os version. If you want, you can easily boost the score by ~1000 by installing data2sd, but you need a good SD card to feel the difference yourself.

cuzzo94 said:
Hi! i made a benchmark on the hd2 both with android froyo and ics hwa and i noticed that the rom with the higest point is the froyo one! i got 1100 for the ics and ~1400 for the froyo one, wich beated also the nexus s.
this is really strange because the gaming performances of froyo are terrible (i had ~2-3 fps with gta3), and it's also slow with the sense 2 homescreen management.
is this normal? thanks
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Really?! Just goes to show, benchmarks aren't a valid way of proving speed. Perhaps it is as hengsheng120 said due to the HWA or something. Either way, ICS is definitely faster than Froyo.

yes as said, for me too ics is faster thank froyo, i just wasn't sure of the reason of this gap.
i don't think that it wold make any difference installing data2sd because of my old sd.
i agree with who thinks that hwa is making this difference, and that is an invalid information to compare OS's. ics is certainly faster with scrolling (the web browsing it's awesome) and 3d.
thank you all and sorry for my english XD

cuzzo94 said:
yes as said, for me too ics is faster thank froyo, i just wasn't sure of the reason of this gap.
i don't think that it wold make any difference installing data2sd because of my old sd.
i agree with who thinks that hwa is making this difference, and that is an invalid information to compare OS's. ics is certainly faster with scrolling (the web browsing it's awesome) and 3d.
thank you all and sorry for my english XD
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Actually, your English is pretty good. Yeah, even if I could get a score of 10000 on Froyo I'd never consider ditching ICS for it

yes while using them you can clearly see that ics beats froyo all the way XD