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newbie alert!!!

Sorry if this is a stupid question guys, but I've just bought a HD2 with the energy rom already on it, what is this and why is it better than the standard rom?

Hi,
You have 100% right - it is stupid question.
ROM - It's another name for operating system with drivers and settings, its a compilation.
Why You use Win XP on Your desktop instead of Windows 3.11 ?
! Because it's better, it's faster, more intuitive, more stable, it's.....
Each ROM is developed for some reason - somebody fix something or change few things.
In my case HTC gives a sh_ _ on me with ROM updates for my region / country - Only thing to do was to flash unofficial ROM.
Read, then ask question.

wow, thats the way to make a neebie welcome. I know you guys want people to read and search more before posting but come on... Im glad not everone is like that.
I also have a couple of newbie questions but ill post in about 6 months after ive read every single post on the site to make sure no one hs asked the question before.
RReckless

Don't make a evil daemon from me , I start with joke , then gently tell what is what and why with ROM, and on the end give a good advice to search and read before asking.

know it all geeks
dont worry bout him mate u always get some gimp know it all like him on here theres lots of helpful people on here 2

perhaps I should've worded it better, I've haven't had a standard hd2 as it was like this when I bought it, but I meant what is different on the energy rom to standard? also is there asetting to lock the keypad when I press the bottom left phone button? mine just turns the screen off but all you have to do is repress it and your back on, I've already called someone in my pocket

bazvw205 said:
perhaps I should've worded it better, I've haven't had a standard hd2 as it was like this when I bought it, but I meant what is different on the energy rom to standard? also is there asetting to lock the keypad when I press the bottom left phone button? mine just turns the screen off but all you have to do is repress it and your back on, I've already called someone in my pocket
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In regards to your Energy ROM question, I've been to the HD2 ROM forum (couple of clicks back from this one) and the top posting is the Energy ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591784
There is a brief outline of the advantages, straight from the developer themselves.

RReckless said:
I also have a couple of newbie questions but ill post in about 6 months after ive read every single post on the site to make sure no one hs asked the question before.
RReckless
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make sure you DO
its extremely annoying for the regulars on this site to keep seeing the same noob questions asked over and over again.
That is what SEARCH is for.

bazvw205 said:
also is there asetting to lock the keypad when I press the bottom left phone button? mine just turns the screen off but all you have to do is repress it and your back on, I've already called someone in my pocket
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Lock the phone manually by pressing the start button then tap LOCK (at the bottom of the screen), then next time the screen goes off it will lock automatically.

Audio Oblivion said:
make sure you DO
its extremely annoying for the regulars on this site to keep seeing the same noob questions asked over and over again.
That is what SEARCH is for.
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what exactly do you mean by "regulars?" Is this how "regulars" welcome a new user on this forum?
i don't see why "regulars" like you, act like you are getting paid that a noob redundant question annoys you. You are not even obligated to answer any questions that you do not feel like answering.

din0_22 said:
what exactly do you mean by "regulars?" Is this how "regulars" welcome a new user on this forum?
i don't see why "regulars" like you, act like you are getting paid that a noob redundant question annoys you. You are not even obligated to answer any questions that you do not feel like answering.
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well put.... I say, as an xda noob

Bandare said:
well put.... I say, as an xda noob
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The reason regulars are like that is it wastes everyone's time when you ask the same questions over and over.
It wastes the noob's time typing the message when a simple search up the top can answer it in a few clicks.
It wastes the noob's and the regular's time by making them sift through pages of redundant threads rather than having new original issues - if a noob has an original issue, it may take ages for someone to find it to answer, thats if they manage to find it at all.
A lot of noobs tend to ask the redundant question without searching, then when the thread moves through several pages, they bump it with a "no one going to help!?!" reply. This would move it above an issue that may well have a higher importance, yet it would have been quicker for them to search than to trawl through and find their thread to reply to.
If noobs did more searching, we wouldn't have to keep explaining the reasons why we ask noobs to search every time they don't.

rp-x1 said:
The reason regulars are like that is it wastes everyone's time when you ask the same questions over and over.
It wastes the noob's time typing the message when a simple search up the top can answer it in a few clicks.
It wastes the noob's and the regular's time by making them sift through pages of redundant threads rather than having new original issues - if a noob has an original issue, it may take ages for someone to find it to answer, thats if they manage to find it at all.
A lot of noobs tend to ask the redundant question without searching, then when the thread moves through several pages, they bump it with a "no one going to help!?!" reply. This would move it above an issue that may well have a higher importance, yet it would have been quicker for them to search than to trawl through and find their thread to reply to.
If noobs did more searching, we wouldn't have to keep explaining the reasons why we ask noobs to search every time they don't.
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Having said the above, let's pretend a newbie have joined the forum today and have asked a question that may have been asked and solved already or better yet asked something that a no brainer can do.
Does that make it annoying for "regulars" already? Your explanation sounds more like you are saying that "regulars" are obligated to answer questions from a noob, yet it is not.
and you said ---> "then when the thread moves through several pages, they bump it with a "no one going to help!?!" reply." <---- and these kind of things affect the so called "regulars"? Does it hurt??? that you need to harass a newbie?
My reaction would be, so what if it moved several times??? I've seen a lot of a very old post that is being answered to this date.

din0_22 said:
Having said the above, let's pretend a newbie have joined the forum today and have asked a question that may have been asked and solved already or better yet asked something that a no brainer can do.
Does that make it annoying for "regulars" already? Your explanation sounds more like you are saying that "regulars" are obligated to answer questions from a noob, yet it is not.
and you said ---> "then when the thread moves through several pages, they bump it with a "no one going to help!?!" reply." <---- and these kind of things affect the so called "regulars"? Does it hurt??? that you need to harass a newbie?
My reaction would be, so what if it moved several times??? I've seen a lot of a very old post that is being answered to this date.
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Theres no need for your reaction here.
Just ask yourself this... why is there a sticky thread right at the top of this forum that tells people how to use search?

Audio Oblivion said:
Theres no need for your reaction here.
Just ask yourself this... why is there a sticky thread right at the top of this forum that tells people how to use search?
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That sticky serves as guide to a do a search, because not all users know how to use search.
My point is, you and the rest of the so called "regulars" act like they have the right to harass or treat newbies like they did have no education at all.
It doesn't mean you see "newbie or junior member" then they should be treated this way.
There's another way of saying things like "Hey man, try searching the forum by using this" instead of "make sure you DO its extremely annoying for the regulars on this site to keep seeing the same noob questions asked over and over again."

din0_22 said:
That sticky serves as guide to a do a search, because not all users know how to use search.
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Have you even read that sticky?
It says... and i quote "Remember, please search first before posting on XDA. It is highly likely that your issue/problem has been mentioned before and a solution is at hand."
din0_22 said:
My point is, you and the rest of the so called "regulars" act like they have the right to harass or treat newbies like they did have no education at all.
It doesn't mean you see "newbie or junior member" then they should be treated this way.
There's another way of saying things like "Hey man, try searching the forum by using this" instead of "make sure you DO its extremely annoying for the regulars on this site to keep seeing the same noob questions asked over and over again."
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The way people come across on internet forums is not necessarily how they would come across in a real life conversation. For example... my reading of your posts in this thread gives me the image of you jumping up and down ranting like a madman. Kind of like Animal out of the muppets...
Thats not really you is it?

Audio Oblivion said:
Have you even read that sticky?
It says... and i quote "Remember, please search first before posting on XDA. It is highly likely that your issue/problem has been mentioned before and a solution is at hand."
The way people come across on internet forums is not necessarily how they would come across in a real life conversation. For example... my reading of your posts in this thread gives me the image of you jumping up and down ranting like a madman. Kind of like Animal out of the muppets...
Thats not really you is it?
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you are missing the point. =) you just made me laugh by calling me and referring me to "names like that". I don't remember saying something absurd about you personally.

din0_22 said:
you are missing the point. =) you just made me laugh by calling me and referring me to "names like that". I don't remember saying something absurd about you personally.
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you see... that is my point
im not insulting you intentionally... just telling you how you come across to me... but you have taken it as an insult :-(
Just to re-iterate... my original post here (ie/ telling the noobs to use search) was not intended as any kind of harassment... just a solid nudge in the direction of the search function.
I mean theres a moderater sticky saying the exact same thing i am saying!
Granted his words might seem friendlier then mine but look at the post i was replying to. Theres an example of someone using sarcasm to try and make the point that it takes too much time to search.
The reason it takes a long time to search is because noobs DONT search and post the same questions over and over. Its an endless circle of death.

Audio Oblivion said:
you see... that is my point
im not insulting you intentionally... just telling you how you come across to me... but you have taken it as an insult :-(
Just to re-iterate... my original post here (ie/ telling the noobs to use search) was not intended as any kind of harassment... just a solid nudge in the direction of the search function.
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"Great to see that there is another side of yourself".. after all.
and oh yeah, there is a nicer way to put it instead of the "a solid nudge in the direction of the search function". In case you do not know, feel free to ask me.

din0_22 said:
and oh yeah, there is a nicer way to put it instead of the "a solid nudge in the direction of the search function". In case you do not know, feel free to ask me.
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no... i know there is... but again... read what i was replying to. I thought my post appropriate and i stand by it. :thumbup:

Can we stop bashing new people in here please

I am starting to see when a new person who has no idea of how things work asks a question and gets bashed. Iam wondering do any of the xda-developer vets want xda-developers to grow or die out? New people once they learn how things work , might later start developing new and exciting products. Can we please show them some respect. Thank you for reading!

Can you give us example what you're saying?

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justwonder said:
Can you give us example what you're saying?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=714574

justwonder said:
Can you give us example what you're saying?
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You being serious?

zarpy said:
I am starting to see when a new person who has no idea of how things work asks a question and gets bashed. Iam wondering do any of the xda-developer vets want xda-developers to grow or die out? New people once they learn how things work , might later start developing new and exciting products. Can we please show them some respect. Thank you for reading!
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100% agree!
Well said!

zarpy said:
I am starting to see when a new person who has no idea of how things work asks a question and gets bashed. Iam wondering do any of the xda-developer vets want xda-developers to grow or die out? New people once they learn how things work , might later start developing new and exciting products. Can we please show them some respect. Thank you for reading!
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Somebody needs a nap ....
But on a serious note I guess we should just stop having rules altogether ....
If bashing people is what you call expecting people even newbs to follow the rules then I guess bashing it is ...
Not totally disagreeing with you, but partially , yes sometimes vets are harsh with newbs, but if 500 people walked up to you and asked you the same question over and over how long would it take for you to get tired of it ....

ok then i just have my rule
Well I dont want to continue because it seems the majority of vets are annoyed at new users. So now I will have this rule from now on to make things simple. Any time I see this behavoir towards newbies , I will post a link to www.ppcgeeks.com . So since newbies are a problem to the vets here, I will redirect them to different website. That should handle all the problems.

zarpy said:
I am starting to see when a new person who has no idea of how things work asks a question and gets bashed. Iam wondering do any of the xda-developer vets want xda-developers to grow or die out? New people once they learn how things work , might later start developing new and exciting products. Can we please show them some respect. Thank you for reading!
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XDA will grow no matter what but if you think that XDA is more interested in the number of users it has, you are sadly mistaken.
It's very easy to pop in here and create ANOTHER useless thread asking everyone to be nice to the newbies.
All the senior members here were all newbies once. All the chefs and developers were newbies too. They didn't get to be where they are by starting up useless HELP ME threads because they were too lazy to get off their behinds and help themselves.
I've been here since 2006 and my post count very recently crossed 500. I've hung out at XDA almost every single day since the day I officially joined and about another year before that without being a member. I've learnt A LOT over here and given everything that I've learnt, if I were to have posted a HELP ME thread everytime I wanted something, I would have probably raked in about 10k posts by now. Think about how many threads and posts we would have from heavily contributing members if they were to take the HELP ME route.
I've been around here so long and know enough people here that no one would have an issue with me opening a thread for any query that I have, yet I don't... why? because XDA is a repository. Every question that anyone can think of has already been asked and has already been discussed.
I can understand how overwhelming everything can be for a newbie, but that still doesn't excuse the HELP ME threads. SEARCH, Look around, do your due diligence and you will find what you need. Nothing comes easy. You have to work for it. Google Search makes things exceptionally easy. Use it and stop crapping this place up.
Honestly, IMO, the mods here are really nice. Too nice infact. People here get away with just about anything. If you guys think people here are tough then you haven't seen how strict things are around the internet. I swear to god, if I was a mod here, the trash can would be overflowing.
Please... stop these incessant rants.
@zarpy.. PPCGeeks is miniscule compared to XDA. Trust me, the mods and the members over there take care of their forum more aggressively than XDA. It's only a matter of time before they start booting LAZY newbies.

Yeah I agree with this, I find it funny like people were born with the knowledge and talk to people who are clueless like they were never in there shoes before. I myself just got a HD2 not to long ago never really used a phone of the sort with apps and etc. I am however tech smart with PCs and like to learn on my own as it benefits you in the long run so I've picked up the basics just by doing. But not everyone is tech smart especially with phones as a lot of it I do not have a clue what it means even though I am tech smart, but I'm learning what does what slowly and how to install different types of apps, games, and themes
If some of you veterans with these phones disagree with this, your simply a liar and should go play in a fire

rumz82 said:
You being serious?
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Don't you want to understand what is going on, before you're saying?

Can someone explain what this has to do with "Themes and Apps" please?
Honestly...Noobs...

Stay tune, OP will redirect you to another site, your question will be answered.

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Stay tune, OP will redirect you to another site, your question will be answered.
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LOL... Oh boy that was funny. LOL

HELP ME IM NEW and opps i had caps on four icons to look goodier lyke iphone has

I can see both sides of this point... Yes the search feature is important, and relitivley easy. Most of the bashing is because people dont use it.
But have you all ever stopped to think about this lil situation?
You are looking for an app, but have no clue what it is called???
Or you are from another country, and have difficulty writing English, even though you can speak it clearly enough.
Then there are the noobs that have no clue (like my self) and come looking for help or ask a question to learn.
Many crash in flames because the people who know the answers, only shoot em down. Even after using the search feature. (yes I have seen this situation here as well)
The easy solution is to just not post a flaming bash to the question, or better yet, just dont post anything at all. Someone that does know and has compassion will answer at some point. Or the person asking will do a search or search again or at some point.
It takes more effort to post a bash than it does to point them in the rite direction and teach the noobs.
The old saying "if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all" REALLY fits here.
Question for all of you to ask your self... When you signed up here, did you READ ALL of the rules before you posted? I'm willing to bet a very small percentage did infact, READ ALL of the rules. So many (not all) of you really have no room to point fingers.

ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS ROFL AT THE OP!!!
OMFG you actually started a thread because someone detailed a few rules!!
And the example you posted of getting bashed....i just reported the entire thread for closure as it is a complete waste of time...much like this one!!
Thanks for the chuckle over breakfast... most hilarious!
wolfee said:
I can see both sides of this point... Yes the search feature is important, and relitivley easy. Most of the bashing is because people dont use it.
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Bingo!!
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But have you all ever stopped to think about this lil situation?
You are looking for an app, but have no clue what it is called???
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Regardless you wouldnt start new threads asking "Whats that app called....."
or another find eg is the one here "Please help me install icons" i mean WTF, if the guy has icons, he got them from a thread right? EXACTLY, so y not post the question there? common sense no?
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Or you are from another country, and have difficulty writing English, even though you can speak it clearly enough.
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Im sorry to sound like a jerk, but who the hell cares about this....
first forum rule is "USE ENGLISH"
therefore who gives a crap, if you cant speak the language use one of the million free translators and post in English, followed by your native language.
wolfee said:
Then there are the noobs that have no clue (like my self) and come looking for help or ask a question to learn.
Many crash in flames because the people who know the answers, only shoot em down. Even after using the search feature. (yes I have seen this situation here as well)
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Ok the reason you would get bashed is if your asking easily findable questions.
Someone ask a dumb question i think they should get bashed, before i answer ANY questions i google search for an answer, if i find one on the first page, the the person asking the question will get no answer and flamed/bashed.
wolfee said:
The easy solution is to just not post a flaming bash to the question, or better yet, just dont post anything at all.
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How about people dont post stupid questions? do you ever think that with the size of this site, the vet users dont get p*ssed off with noobs asking the same things over and over again?
wolfee said:
Someone that does know and has compassion will answer at some point. Or the person asking will do a search or search again or at some point.
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these peope with compasion, while good for you, they are actually bad, because in stead of forcing you into a position where you actually have to search after being bashed and told that it is a stupid/easy/useless question they just give the answers.
wolfee said:
It takes more effort to post a bash than it does to point them in the rite direction and teach the noobs.
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WHAT COMPLETE AND UTTER GARBAGE!!!!
WTF man, seriously you think we should spend our time teaching noobs?8 years ago i used to get smashed to pieces but the likes of Olipro, and if you think people bash now you should have seen him when he was about...wow...i think you would be crying in the corner!
I run 2 HUGE threads in this forum, and i got that sick after the thousands of idiots that couldnt even be bothered to read the instructions and just posted things like "Help i cant do it"
we need more Olipro's to get rid of the IDIOT noobs who CANNOT BE ARSED SEARCHING.
TEACHING ROFL, jes, would you like me to come to your house and dress you for school too?
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The old saying "if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all" REALLY fits here.
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Again more rubbish, people not a days are just too LAZY to do things for themselves.
how about this "Ask a stupid question get a stupid answer"
ROFL PWNED!!!
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Question for all of you to ask your self... When you signed up here, did you READ ALL of the rules before you posted?
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Yes
and initially i asked stupid questions and i got flames and bashed, but i wasnt a ***** and i didnt cry about it ans start threads asking people to stop bashing me.
i learnt that if i was getting bashed there was a reason and i accepted that, where as now we hae the folowing:
1: Guy ask Stupid Question
2: Vets Bash
3: Guy crys
4: Guy opens more threads asking about "why am i getting bashed"
5: vets see the thread and get more P*ssed dish out mroe bashing
6: Guy crys more
7: Guy posts the eg of why he gets bashed in the new "why am i getting bashed" thread
8: Vets come along and thing WTF is this guys problem is he stupid?
here is the ULTIMATE easy solution
Search using xda search, search using google search, when posting your question past in the URL for the results of your search so people can see how you searched/what terms you used
then i Guarantee there will be no flames, and probably a few suggestion on changing search terms etc

Read and Search is the key to not posting usless threads
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XDA will grow no matter what but if you think that XDA is more interested in the number of users it has, you are sadly mistaken.
I would have probably raked in about 10k posts by now.
Every question that anyone can think of has already been asked and has already been discussed.
Honestly, IMO, the mods here are really nice. Too nice infact. People here get away with just about anything. If you guys think people here are tough then you haven't seen how strict things are around the internet.
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Couldn´t be more than agree with you leepriestenator, except for the part of the 10k posts
I am almost there
P.S Mods please move to proper discussion place

MG
I know alot of people read Mystics Genius post and thought damn cavemen exist in this day and age.
Laughing my a&+) off hahahaha you said 8 years ago you got bashed here by olipro. Your join date is 2008 its 2010 .....hahahahha where"s your math teacher he did a horrible job hahahahaha.
You this thread was opened by a newbie that wants to know why he got thrash. Your english teacher didnt teach you how to read properly hahaha.
Iam a vet here , I opened this thread because Iam tired of this attitude thats starting to take place.
You remembered when you used to get bashed and thrashed , so you think its right. How dumb are you , so if your dad beat you everyday, does that mean you beat your son? I hope not!!! You suppose to learn , but you stayed aan idiot all this time. 8 years and you learn nothing hahahahaha your the true definition of moron. Iam not mad, I think your a joke hahahahaha.

I just hope you guys don't expect your doctors, lawyers, police officers and everyone else of importance in life to answer your questions...that have been asked and asked over and over again. The answers to your heart problems are on the internet. A little Bing search will find them. You don't need to bother your doctor with clarification questions.
Please stop harrassing your lawyers. They answer the exact same questions you ask time and again. They must be so sick of answering those questions over and over again. All of the answers you can think of are clearly posted online. Do a search of Google or Bing and stop asking your important people questions.

hmmm.... i feel that as newbie

Anyway to stop the verizon media page when mounting phone to PC?

This is really down right annoying. Every single time I plug my phone in to the usb port, a Verizon Media page loads. Is there anyway to stop this?

I'm guessing the search button was broken?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=775003

Right click on the moto icon and change the option there.. its in the bottom right task bar
I even called verizon and ask them WTF and they are like "i never heared of this before" and the even transfered me to level 2 and they still didnt know

Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
I'm guessing the search button was broken?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=775003
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Damn man I think you have a smart ass reply for every single post ever made you should be proud.........douche
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Damn man I think you have a smart ass reply for every single post ever made you should be proud.........douche
Sent from my DROIDX using XDA App
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Well, if you had used the search button and found all of my posts, you would know that not all of them were smart-ass responses.
This one of course, is. Dumb-ass.

I should rephrase that all of the post I've read, which is probally 70% lol
Sent from my DROIDX using XDA App

Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
Well, if you had used the search button and found all of my posts, you would know that not all of them were smart-ass responses.
This one of course, is. Dumb-ass.
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hey dude seriously though, one night i spent hours trying to search for something before i made a post. and it doesn't help that one must wait thirty seconds before searching again, and low and behold someone already posted a thread about it. the only thread in the whole forum i'm guessing, but yet i wasn't able to find it only because my words were not exactly that of the original thread. My point being is that this is a cool website where people go to help each other out. and the only thing i find more annoying than multiple threads resembling the same subjects, is the one person trolling around slapping links to other threads while being unnecessarily rude about it. if this is really all the better you can do to be polite in this forum then maybe you should switch to apple and continue to hold yourself above others and have it be accepted by the elitist peers you would gain. other than that do the world a favor and play nice. please.

o0gamerbear0o said:
hey dude seriously though, one night i spent hours trying to search for something before i made a post. and it doesn't help that one must wait thirty seconds before searching again, and low and behold someone already posted a thread about it. the only thread in the whole forum i'm guessing, but yet i wasn't able to find it only because my words were not exactly that of the original thread. My point being is that this is a cool website where people go to help each other out. and the only thing i find more annoying than multiple threads resembling the same subjects, is the one person trolling around slapping links to other threads while being unnecessarily rude about it. if this is really all the better you can do to be polite in this forum then maybe you should switch to apple and continue to hold yourself above others and have it be accepted by the elitist peers you would gain. other than that do the world a favor and play nice. please.
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I found his initial post with the link to be more of a friendly poke, rather than trolling or being rude. That smiley at the end made all the difference

[Q] A Very Important Question

You will all take the level of importance of this question as your own but I have had a query burning in my mind for a while.
I know that currently the Android OS is a BUILD and it takes a wm ROM to launch off, but I was wondering is there a way for the HTC LEO to run DROID ONLY and never have to associate itself or use WM ROMS ever again. Essentially I am asking is there a way to create a ANDROID ROM for the HTC LEO?
Note: Can the answers be open minded and not fuelled by programmers knowledge as most programmers I know will only give answers in the current boundaries of technology, but I do urge you to remember that at one point Computers were impossible...but they did it. I hope the programmers here do not take offence to this, I just want to know is it theoretically possible.
Thank you in advance.

norodaigh said:
You will all take the level of importance of this question as your own but I have had a query burning in my mind for a while.
I know that currently the Android OS is a BUILD and it takes a wm ROM to launch off, but I was wondering is there a way for the HTC LEO to run DROID ONLY and never have to associate itself or use WM ROMS ever again. Essentially I am asking is there a way to create a ANDROID ROM for the HTC LEO?
Note: Can the answers be open minded and not fuelled by programmers knowledge as most programmers I know will only give answers in the current boundaries of technology, but I do urge you to remember that at one point Computers were impossible...but they did it. I hope the programmers here do not take offence to this, I just want to know is it theoretically possible.
Thank you in advance.
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It's a work in progress. People is working on the bootloader and we are going to flash directly the rom in the phone.
Doesnt know yet the details.

Anyone else got more word?

Atleast a thousand threads about this, and once like yours every week. Its called NAND. Search for that
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Search and read....
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norodaigh said:
Anyone else got more word?
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we got your word but its pretty obvious you have not read enough in this community
and your topic is not in its proper forum.
norpan111 said:
Atleast a thousand threads about this, and once like yours every week. Its called NAND. Search for that
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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just report any out of topic threads using the small triangle with exclamation mark
on the right upper hand corner of the post. so to alert the mods and
then it will be moved to general discussion

NAND http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732160
Updates to the project http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817261
I had also wondered about this as I just got a HD2 last week, my very first smartphone. I put Android on it and love it, I didn't care to much for Windows Mobile. If people would have developed apps for it like iOS and Android I would have stay with winmo but I really wanted that Sirius XM app

jigners said:
we got your word but its pretty obvious you have not read enough in this community
and your topic is not in its proper forum
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It is pretty obvious isn't it, don't mind being a little nicer next time? Pretentious.

norodaigh said:
It is pretty obvious isn't it, don't mind being a little nicer next time? Pretentious.
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You should be glad that you got help at all. People get upset when other people want to know something and does zero research of their own. That's why first people gets annoyed sometimes ;d
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Ok guys lol,
I think the OP has got the gist of what your saying, lets keep the flames cool please, thanks.
Tim.

norpan111 said:
You should be glad that you got help at all. People get upset when other people want to know something and does zero research of their own. That's why first people gets annoyed sometimes ;d
Sent from my Htcclay's FroBread using XDA App
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I understand what your saying but this is a 'community forum' everyone is here to help everyone or have I completely missed the point?

norodaigh said:
I understand what your saying but this is a 'community forum' everyone is here to help everyone or have I completely missed the point?
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There's a difference between helping and spoon-feeding. a ten second search would have avoided this whole thread.

Reno_79 said:
There's a difference between helping and spoon-feeding. a ten second search would have avoided this whole thread.
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100% agree with this (i often say it too), with a few exceptions tho
the big NAND question being 1 of them, if you are fairly new to this scene, it can be info overload & without reading every thread this info is easy to miss.
how does "NAND" translate into Android Rom? unless you've been been around for a while you wont know.

kam333 said:
100% agree with this (i often say it too), with a few exceptions tho
the big NAND question being 1 of them, if you are fairly new to this scene, it can be info overload & without reading every thread this info is easy to miss.
how does "NAND" translate into Android Rom? unless you've been been around for a while you wont know.
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as much as i hate redundant threads like this, that's true.

true, but reading the stickies @ the top of each forum would have answered it,....
infact the verry first stickie in the HD2 android general forum is all about it!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817261
there i even linked to it for those that cant find it...

kam333 said:
100% agree with this (i often say it too), with a few exceptions tho
the big NAND question being 1 of them, if you are fairly new to this scene, it can be info overload & without reading every thread this info is easy to miss.
how does "NAND" translate into Android Rom? unless you've been been around for a while you wont know.
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Thanks dude

When will XDA members here learn.

1. Search before posting.. please for the love of all our goofy gods USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION.
2. We are all knowing and mass informed! There is a 99.99999% chance some one has already posted info that is no less than 20 seconds old.
"look how old the news you are posting is"
3. The question you are about to start a entire thread about in the wrong section already exists, i repeat! The question you are about to start a entire thread about in the wrong section already exists.
4. You are not special.. ever.. you are part of the all singing, all dancing cirrus.
5. Don't ever troll! WE HATE IT and BAD THINGS HAPPEN TO THOSE WHO DARE TROLL.
6. Don't ever say anything without being 99999999% sure of it.
7. This is XDA have fun but have respect.
8. You are allowed a opinion.. I hope you have facts to back it up.
9. If your new here... Click here or please lurk more.
10. LURK you must lurk before posting.. that will help eliminate most of these issue's as you quickly will become aware that See number 4.

because i am a rebel who tries to use constructive critisism...and defend n00bs as well as those who face problems with a short amount of time(its our phone and we need it working now!) I will be the rival to the moderator in training.
You're lingo is so serious but gentle. Like me.
1. Search before posting.. please for the love of all our goofy gods USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION.
I've learned this from several jobs, school, and marketing. When people see more post counts, or a post from an older date, people are less likely to get a response. Along with this, some searches are very vague and just never get the answers we were looking for. I can google almost anything and find what I want to find. My girlfriend, my mother, heck my boss seem like idiots to me when I see how they keyword what they want, and don't get results. And for the people who do find what they want, probably dont find exactly what they want.
But point is, yes, step one, is always use search. if you don't. someones going to ignore your question and tell you "USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION."
2. We are all knowing and mass informed! There is a 99.99999% chance some one has already posted info that is no less than 20 seconds old.
the numbers are inaccurate. It's a 87.896% chance, and the news is generally 2-5 hours old.
3. The question you are about to start a entire thread about in the wrong section already exists, i repeat! The question you are about to start a entire thread about in the wrong section already exists.
who are you talking to? too broad...and what if...it didn't exist. like batman?
4. You are not special.. ever.. you are part of the all singing, all dancing cirrus.
Now that just ain't nice.
5. Don't ever troll! WE HATE IT and BAD THINGS HAPPEN TO THOSE WHO DARE TROLL.
1. No...bad things don't always happen. Depends on how good the troll is. Some would believe i am trolling you...as I could see it, you are trolling all of us.
6. Don't ever say anything without being 99999999% sure of it.
At this point, i think i've decided you are the x10's headmaster... i once knew a guy who was from germany...
7. This is XDA have fun but have respect.
I was trying too, until you told me/..us...that we aren't special....
8. You are allowed a opinion.. I hope you have facts to back it up.
thank you. I am glad i am allowed an opinion. I think thats a great guideline
9. If your new here... Click here or please lurk more.
you're
10. LURK you must lurk before posting.. that will help eliminate most of these issue's as you quickly will become aware that See number 4.
i lurk more than i use to smoke cigarette.
idk what just happened. help me
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I am so inspired to write my next song about you Omega Red.

Ugh. Don't forget rule number 1... Use the search function. There is already a sticky on this.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=769191

Stop!! before it's too late and we've destroyed everything
hehe it's the name of a song, sorry it was random, but that was what came to my mind when I saw this thread & that other "stop!!..." thread
by the way, something else from that song:
You cannot stop what never ends
You cannot stop what never ends
You cannot stop what never ends
...
so ...

because i am a rebel who tries to use constructive critisism...and defend n00bs as well as those who face problems with a short amount of time(its our phone and we need it working now!) I will be the rival to the moderator in training.
You're lingo is so serious but gentle. Like me
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Thank you
1. I've learned this from several jobs, school, and marketing. When people see more post counts, or a post from an older date, people are less likely to get a response. Along with this, some searches are very vague and just never get the answers we were looking for. I can google almost anything and find what I want to find. My girlfriend, my mother, heck my boss seem like idiots to me when I see how they keyword what they want, and don't get results. And for the people who do find what they want, probably dont find exactly what they want.
But point is, yes, step one, is always use search. if you don't. someones going to ignore your question and tell you "USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION."
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please do
2. the numbers are inaccurate. It's a 87.896% chance, and the news is generally 2-5 hours old.
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Nothing more than me exaggerating.
3. who are you talking to? too broad...and what if...it didn't exist. like batman?
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It does not matter who.. if it does not exist.. it divides by 0. then there for it is null.
All posts are a repost of a repost.
4. Now that just ain't nice.
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Actually it's very nice.. go watch fight club. absorb the message from that movie.
5. No...bad things don't always happen. Depends on how good the troll is. Some would believe i am trolling you...as I could see it, you are trolling all of us.
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Fair enough i never said always.
6. At this point, i think i've decided you are the x10's headmaster... i once knew a guy who was from germany...
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I am just part of the all singing, all dancing circus.
Odd how you feel that way.
7. I was trying too, until you told me/..us...that we aren't special....
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Seriously.. that movie.. watch it.
8. thank you. I am glad i am allowed an opinion. I think thats a great guideline
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that's
you are welcome
9. you're
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oops
10. i lurk more than i use to smoke cigarette.
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used
Grammar nazi's are overrated, please don't.
idk what just happened. help me
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I am so inspired to write my next song about you Omega Red.
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Surprising since me and you had a very shaky start.
Shakes Windst hand.
Sorry if some of my responses seem heavy and literal.

Windst said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=769191
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I know.. it's right there!!! right THERE!!!
and not one single person ever notices or takes the message.

because i am a rebel who tries to use constructive critisism...and defend n00bs as well as those who face problems with a short amount of time(its our phone and we need it working now!) I will be the rival to the moderator in training.
You're lingo is so serious but gentle. Like me
.
Thank you
your welcome
1. I've learned this from several jobs, school, and marketing. When people see more post counts, or a post from an older date, people are less likely to get a response. Along with this, some searches are very vague and just never get the answers we were looking for. I can google almost anything and find what I want to find. My girlfriend, my mother, heck my boss seem like idiots to me when I see how they keyword what they want, and don't get results. And for the people who do find what they want, probably dont find exactly what they want.
But point is, yes, step one, is always use search. if you don't. someones going to ignore your question and tell you "USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION."
please do
always will
2. the numbers are inaccurate. It's a 87.896% chance, and the news is generally 2-5 hours old.
Nothing more than me exaggerating.
i'm being an asshole
3. who are you talking to? too broad...and what if...it didn't exist. like batman?
It does not matter who.. if it does not exist.. it divides by 0. then there for it is null.
All posts are a repost of a repost.
4. Now that just ain't nice.
Actually it's very nice.. go watch fight club. absorb the message from that movie.
you obviously got the wrong message from that movie
5. No...bad things don't always happen. Depends on how good the troll is. Some would believe i am trolling you...as I could see it, you are trolling all of us.
Fair enough i never said always.
you just did
6. At this point, i think i've decided you are the x10's headmaster... i once knew a guy who was from germany...
I am just part of the all singing, all dancing circus.
Odd how you feel that way.
Odd how you feel you need to take authority. I give you the nod
7. I was trying too, until you told me/..us...that we aren't special....
Seriously.. that movie.. watch it.
You seem to really rely on Fight Club. Already seen it.
8. thank you. I am glad i am allowed an opinion. I think thats a great guideline
that's
you are welcome
uh
9. you're
oops
lol
10. i lurk more than i use to smoke cigarette.
used
+1
Grammar nazi's are overrated, please don't.
Do you know what a Nazi is?
idk what just happened. help me
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I am so inspired to write my next song about you Omega Red.
Surprising since me and you had a very shaky start.
Shakes Windst hand.
Sorry if some of my responses seem heavy and literal.
It's a batman...joker type relationship ya know... speaking of. 3rd trailers leaked.

Windst said:
because i am a rebel who tries to use constructive critisism...and defend n00bs as well as those who face problems with a short amount of time(its our phone and we need it working now!) I will be the rival to the moderator in training.
You're lingo is so serious but gentle. Like me
.
Thank you
your welcome
1. I've learned this from several jobs, school, and marketing. When people see more post counts, or a post from an older date, people are less likely to get a response. Along with this, some searches are very vague and just never get the answers we were looking for. I can google almost anything and find what I want to find. My girlfriend, my mother, heck my boss seem like idiots to me when I see how they keyword what they want, and don't get results. And for the people who do find what they want, probably dont find exactly what they want.
But point is, yes, step one, is always use search. if you don't. someones going to ignore your question and tell you "USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION."
please do
always will
2. the numbers are inaccurate. It's a 87.896% chance, and the news is generally 2-5 hours old.
Nothing more than me exaggerating.
i'm being an asshole
3. who are you talking to? too broad...and what if...it didn't exist. like batman?
It does not matter who.. if it does not exist.. it divides by 0. then there for it is null.
All posts are a repost of a repost.
4. Now that just ain't nice.
Actually it's very nice.. go watch fight club. absorb the message from that movie.
you obviously got the wrong message from that movie
5. No...bad things don't always happen. Depends on how good the troll is. Some would believe i am trolling you...as I could see it, you are trolling all of us.
Fair enough i never said always.
you just did
6. At this point, i think i've decided you are the x10's headmaster... i once knew a guy who was from germany...
I am just part of the all singing, all dancing circus.
Odd how you feel that way.
Odd how you feel you need to take authority. I give you the nod
7. I was trying too, until you told me/..us...that we aren't special....
Seriously.. that movie.. watch it.
You seem to really rely on Fight Club. Already seen it.
8. thank you. I am glad i am allowed an opinion. I think thats a great guideline
that's
you are welcome
uh
9. you're
oops
lol
10. i lurk more than i use to smoke cigarette.
used
+1
Grammar nazi's are overrated, please don't.
Do you know what a Nazi is?
idk what just happened. help me
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I am so inspired to write my next song about you Omega Red.
Surprising since me and you had a very shaky start.
Shakes Windst hand.
Sorry if some of my responses seem heavy and literal.
It's a batman...joker type relationship ya know... speaking of. 3rd trailers leaked.
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Haha... thanks for the lulz.

OmegaRED^. I suggest you take a nice long vacation till the gingerbread update comes. You would be doing yourself (and us) a favour by doing so.

Dont know whats worse....
Starting thread about question thats already been asked
Or
Starting a bullsh!t pointless thread like this one.
Sent using 8 fingers and 4 toes. Multi touch rocks

bra1n0uk said:
Dont know whats worse....
Starting thread about question thats already been asked
Or
Starting a bullsh!t pointless thread like this one.
Sent using 8 fingers and 4 toes. Multi touch rocks
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^^^^
Not as bad as having a attitude like this

Uhm, Omega, you should lurk self. This has been already posted.
Now serious, this one is much clear than all those other threads with meters of text! Nice!

PlayGunsta said:
Uhm, Omega, you should lurk self. This has been already posted.
Now serious, this one is much clear than all those other threads with meters of text! Nice!
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If anyone gets confused about this..
4. You are not special.. ever.. you are part of the all singing, all dancing cirrus.
Please let me explain.
We see it all
We do it all.
We can do anything.
We do not forget.
We are prepared
Our words are final.
Our thoughts are adjusted.
We are the all singing, all dancing cirrus.
And no i am not affiliated with any hacking group or terrorist team.

o_o how long is one a "noob" for... just a thought.
@omega; generally i love your stuff, you're a great voice for the enlightened ones - an intermediary.
I feel you sat on the thin line with this post. Example; a new user just happens to read this before the sticky in any forum/sub-forum, then this message would perhaps be more useful than any other instructions they might have read first - they would perhaps feel irritated by the (albeit jovial) condescending tone. I for one have read a few of your posts - so i am familiar with your charming and sarcastic personality!
On the other hand, they have read the rules already, and do search first etc etc etc..
In this instance, this thread becomes an ironic hypocrisy, where it appears that the "rules" that are often beaten about our newbie heads by mods/senior members - dont appear to apply to them....
~#just sayin
NB. if this thread HAPPENS to be the first you have ever read here at jolly old xda, i assure you that you are in fact welcome here, but, as i am sure you have gathered by now, read the rules first and obey. or thou shalst surley be (verbally) slain. any questions??

[email protected] said:
o_o how long is one a "noob" for... just a thought.
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Some people stay noob. f.e. fiscidtox.

[email protected] said:
o_o how long is one a "noob" for... just a thought.
@omega; generally i love your stuff, you're a great voice for the enlightened ones - an intermediary.
I feel you sat on the thin line with this post. Example; a new user just happens to read this before the sticky in any forum/sub-forum, then this message would perhaps be more useful than any other instructions they might have read first - they would perhaps feel irritated by the (albeit jovial) condescending tone. I for one have read a few of your posts - so i am familiar with your charming and sarcastic personality!
On the other hand, they have read the rules already, and do search first etc etc etc..
In this instance, this thread becomes an ironic hypocrisy, where it appears that the "rules" that are often beaten about our newbie heads by mods/senior members - dont appear to apply to them....
~#just sayin
NB. if this thread HAPPENS to be the first you have ever read here at jolly old xda, i assure you that you are in fact welcome here, but, as i am sure you have gathered by now, read the rules first and obey. or thou shalt surely be (verbally) slain. any questions??
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Thank you for understanding.
It's true i am walking the fine line between insanity and enlightenment.
But i figured we could all read this.
Some will feel offended others will feel enlightened.
It's not what you are reading but how you interpret it.
I also just plainly had fun writing it.
Understand clearly, you are all welcome
This was not a method to slander noobs or to act like i am some 1337is't.

But why are you starting a thread with info that's already been posted and stickied? Rule number 1!!

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But why are you starting a thread with info that's already been posted and stickied? Rule number 1!!
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I am aware of this and the problem is.. awareness.
I used this thread to rant.
The mods may delete it.
My point has been made.
PEOPLE please pay attention. << this was my point as very few seem to read the rules or follow the guidelines.
The point is pointless as many have been ignoring the rules.
I am not saying we should ignore noobs.. help them but also inform them.
One forum i was part of tried using a gestapo attitude to this issue.
It was a complete mess.
It was only due to my efforts and love for that forum that it started to shape up and become a true medium for communication and development.
"I was not a mod, merely a outsider that solidly stood for the right thing."
This is why i make these comments, this is why i rant, this is why i expose myself to harassment and mental torture.. it's not just for me.. but for you.
I stand for all that is good!
My dark sense of humor serves that purpose.
But enough about me.. i am not what is important.
The x10 is and SE's delivery on the product is the true issue at hand.

Whenever i use the search tool and for example i search for launcherpro all i see is roms and stupid crap so i just dont use the search tool 95% the results are roms --
Sent From My X10!