Android, not on SD Card... - HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera

Hi
Thanks for a lot of good solutions regardin Android.
One Question:
Might be stupid, but i'll ask anyway.
Is it not possible to put Android into the phones memory, and only run Android and not Windows??
Meaning that android is the only ROM in the phone.
I guess it's not possible, since the only solution i can find, is putting the android files on memory card, but i wonder why...

mortenna said:
Hi
Thanks for a lot of good solutions regardin Android.
One Question:
Might be stupid, but i'll ask anyway.
Is it not possible to put Android into the phones memory, and only run Android and not Windows??
Meaning that android is the only ROM in the phone.
I guess it's not possible, since the only solution i can find, is putting the android files on memory card, but i wonder why...
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Not at the moment...

Thats what developers are trying to make possible and is the nand version of android for hd2.
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That would be the magical NAND that all the kids are talking about.

polo735 said:
That would be the magical NAND that all the kids are raving about.
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Fixed.
Ahh the magical NAND. A large mystical creature capable of bringing nerds to their knees.

juggs said:
Fixed.
Ahh the magical NAND. A large mystical creature capable of bringing nerds to their knees.
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Fixed? What is fixed?

asctony said:
Fixed? What is fixed?
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Fixed is a common forum tactic where a user quotes someone and changes something about their post to reflect what they think will be a funnier post. In this case I replaced the word "talking" with "raving". So as to sound like an old person not hip with modern technology.

Weakest ... fix ... EVAR.
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juggs said:
Fixed is a common forum tactic where a user quotes someone and changes something about their post to reflect what they think will be a funnier post. In this case I replaced the word "talking" with "raving". So as to sound like an old person not hip with modern technology.
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Tks for the clarification. I am an old person, senior citizen, so you have to bear with me. LOL!

conqu1stador said:
Weakest ... fix ... EVAR.
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U.
10 chars

Hah senior citizens!
10 million letters
Sent from my

another sucessfull topic steal lolz

Related

full Froyo or press release.

I've been noticing a lot of the apps on the market stating that we all have press release versions of Froyo. Is this true?
Can you give some examples?
Haven't seen this.
yeah, PICS OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!
Paul22000 said:
Can you give some examples?
Haven't seen this.
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yeah really
also is that picture of yours gordon freeman?
look at nexus mod...
and look at this http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/22/android-2-2s-froyo-goodness-hitting-the-nexus-one-already/ check out the 3rd update
We've done some additional investigation, and as far as we can tell, Google is only updating review Nexus Ones that had been provided to the press -- not off-the-shelf phones. We'll stay on this and let you know more as soon as we do.
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this the only thing that made me believe it:
from @Romain Guy
http://twitter.com/romainguy/status/14650964801
If that turns out to be the case, we will get the new file so we can flash it; if not we can alway download the old 2.1 update file, flash and then let the OTA hit the phone.
ChillRays said:
yeah really
also is that picture of yours gordon freeman?
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LOL Yes. First person to get it so far!
Paul22000 said:
LOL Yes. First person to get it so far!
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Really? I thought everyone interested enough in tinkering with gadgets (aka nerds, JK ) knew Freeman, the famous silent protagonist armed with the mighty crowbar. Or maybe I'm just getting old and ppl don't play PC games anymore.
Anyway, hopefully a new rom will come. I still have problems mounting the SD card which sometimes causes crashes. And also missing market links.
wocman said:
Really? I thought everyone interested enough in tinkering with gadgets (aka nerds, JK ) knew Freeman, the famous silent protagonist armed with the mighty crowbar. Or maybe I'm just getting old and ppl don't play PC games anymore.
Anyway, hopefully a new rom will come. I still have problems mounting the SD card which sometimes causes crashes. And also missing market links.
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Man! now I don't know what I want more... Official FROYO or episode 3
Google/Valve... it's about time you
wocman said:
Really? I thought everyone interested enough in tinkering with gadgets (aka nerds, JK ) knew Freeman, the famous silent protagonist armed with the mighty crowbar. Or maybe I'm just getting old and ppl don't play PC games anymore.
Anyway, hopefully a new rom will come. I still have problems mounting the SD card which sometimes causes crashes. And also missing market links.
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yea i think 70 percent or more of this forum should know freeman from half life gosh i remember the pc crowbar days ... was i the only one who played demos like they was the full game if they didn't have the money at the moment lol
Paul22000 said:
LOL Yes. First person to get it so far!
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lol.. One of my favorite videos on youtube is called "half life full life consequences". Its not "lol" funny but very amusing =)
Guys, let's continue the discussion in the older thread, too many duplicate threads being created... lets keep all in one place. Thanks though.

Not able to root 100% BC of chip in phone that restores the original rom

I'm thinking of buying one but I heard about this?
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los0325 said:
I'm thinking of buying one but I heard about this?
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is this a serious post? read half the threads here
los0325 said:
I'm thinking of buying one but I heard about this?
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That is very true. There is also a root-kit that prevents you from saving anything important. The first Windows Phone 7 phone was announced today. You should get one!
los0325 said:
I'm thinking of buying one but I heard about this?
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Umm....Yep that's right, actually its part of the 4gb nand module that has some sort of overwrite protection. Best to steer clear in my opinion, .
kgold708 said:
Umm....Yep that's right, actually its part of the 4gb nand module that has some sort of overwrite protection. Best to steer clear in my opinion, .
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It will be circumvented before you know it... probably before Halloween.
This thread started at 4:20 pm.
SuperFly03 said:
It will be circumvented before you know it... probably before Halloween.
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No way man, we're talkin OEM level security here. Now winphone 7 sounds awesome, I mean its windows but on a phone, that should BLOW everything else out of the water.
kgold708 said:
This thread started at 4:20 pm.
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if there were a "like" button i would have clicked it
OK thanks guys ill pass on the g2
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kgold708 said:
No way man, we're talkin OEM level security here. Now winphone 7 sounds awesome, I mean its windows but on a phone, that should BLOW everything else out of the water.
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... there is always security at that level. There is nothing new here. The "security" is getting blown out of proportions. It isn't that good based on the reports from non-sensationalized outlets.
los0325 said:
OK thanks guys ill pass on the g2
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Since you appear to have a Vibrant (good phone minus GPS issues), that's your call but the G2 is great.
kgold708 said:
No way man, we're talkin OEM level security here. Now winphone 7 sounds awesome, I mean its windows but on a phone, that should BLOW everything else out of the water.
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It's Windows... but on a phone! Totally ****ing awesome!
los0325 said:
OK thanks guys ill pass on the g2
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"Bandit Splash" asurion is backordered on the G2.
krayshunist said:
It's Windows... but on a phone! Totally ****ing awesome!
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Winphone 7, from the makers of Vista OS. I should be in marketing.
Please stop spreading misinformation about how the protection "works."
The phone does not restore anything. The changes are simply never written in the first place - the Sandisk chip lies to the OS that writes have been committed, and the OS cache continues to present the cached copy until it is flushed or rebooted.
In other words, T-Mobile has lied, thrown HTC under the bus, and is going against the whole concept of Open Source and Android. T-Mobile and HTC see Android as a cash cow - they could care less about Linux, Open Source and following the GPL.
My G2 will be on its way back to T-Mobile tomorrow over this. It's my phone, if I cannot do with it as I please, I don't want it.
HamNCheese said:
Please stop spreading misinformation about how the protection "works."
The phone does not restore anything. The changes are simply never written in the first place - the Sandisk chip lies to the OS that writes have been committed, and the OS cache continues to present the cached copy until it is flushed or rebooted.
In other words, T-Mobile has lied, thrown HTC under the bus, and is going against the whole concept of Open Source and Android. T-Mobile and HTC see Android as a cash cow - they could care less about Linux, Open Source and following the GPL.
My G2 will be on its way back to T-Mobile tomorrow over this. It's my phone, if I cannot do with it as I please, I don't want it.
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Dude, the OP was a troll. This has been covered to death in the Dev section of the forum and in the Wiki. Having said that...
It's a root-kit! With a system restore!
HamNCheese said:
Please stop spreading misinformation about how the protection "works."
The phone does not restore anything. The changes are simply never written in the first place - the Sandisk chip lies to the OS that writes have been committed, and the OS cache continues to present the cached copy until it is flushed or rebooted.
In other words, T-Mobile has lied, thrown HTC under the bus, and is going against the whole concept of Open Source and Android. T-Mobile and HTC see Android as a cash cow - they could care less about Linux, Open Source and following the GPL.
My G2 will be on its way back to T-Mobile tomorrow over this. It's my phone, if I cannot do with it as I please, I don't want it.
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Umm..... I hope your not refurring to me. Btw "Bandit Splash"
kgold708 said:
Umm....Yep that's right, actually its part of the 4gb nand module that has some sort of overwrite protection. Best to steer clear in my opinion, .
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No misinfo here.
kgold708 said:
No way man, we're talkin OEM level security here. Now winphone 7 sounds awesome, I mean its windows but on a phone, that should BLOW everything else out of the water.
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Or here but I will gladly pay insurion $130 for your g2.

[DISCUSSION] Android Lounge

Ok this Thread has been created so that people who want to voice their opinion on anything Android related can do so without having to create a new thread or invading an existing one that doesnt suit its topic.
Come in, leave a comment and chat about anything HD2 Android related and take some of that stress off your shoulders while waiting for NAND to be completed.
Just obey xda rules, dont post bad language or start fights and you are welcome
Let the chatting begin
Mark.
mskip said:
Ok this Thread has been created so that people who want to voice their opinion on anything Android related can do so without having to create a new thread or invading an existing one that doesnt suit its topic.
Come in, leave a comment and chat about anything HD2 Android related and take some of that stress off your shoulders while waiting for NAND to be completed.
Just obey xda rules, dont post bad language or start fights and you are welcome
Let the chatting begin
Mark.
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Sup.
How do you like Android?
Troll mode on
This sense build i downloaded has sense. I dont like sense. Which Android build is best? I think iphone is better. And NAND is not necessary.
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baybenbey said:
Troll mode on
This sense build i downloaded has sense. I dont like sense. Which Android build is best? I think iphone is better. And NAND is not necessary.
Troll mode off
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That's funny!
baybenbey said:
Troll mode on
This sense build i downloaded has sense. I dont like sense. Which Android build is best? I think iphone is better. And NAND is not necessary.
Troll mode off
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If you think iPhone is better y are you here @ xda which is devoted to winmo and open source operating systems like android webos... iPhone sux, too restricted.. if I wanted someone else to decide what I could look @ and the apps I could download I would let my mommy do it for me.. (by the way I'm 29 don't ask my mommy to do much lmao)
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It was time for such a thread.
About the iPhone, it's like buyin a car you can't drive yourself. In one sentence: It is boring.
squish099 said:
If you think iPhone is better y are you here @ xda which is devoted to winmo and open source operating systems like android webos... iPhone sux, too restricted.. if I wanted someone else to decide what I could look @ and the apps I could download I would let my mommy do it for me.. (by the way I'm 29 don't ask my mommy to do much lmao)
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Good argument.
If I want to look at porn on the go on my HD2, with Jeebus as my witness I WILL LOOK AT PORN ON MY HD2 ON THE GO.
Start>File Explorer>Storage Card>AndroidG2>
clrcad.exe
haret.exe
5 minute wait
Android
????
Porn!
(*in reference to this http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/01/adobe-porn-flash/)
JanssoN said:
It was time for such a thread.
About the iPhone, it's like buyin a car you can't drive yourself. In one sentence: It is boring.
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Roflmfao
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rr5678 said:
Good argument.
If I want to look at porn on the go on my HD2, with Jeebus as my witness I WILL LOOK AT PORN ON MY HD2 ON THE GO.
Start>File Explorer>Storage Card>AndroidG2>
clrcad.exe
haret.exe
5 minute wait
Android
????
Porn!
(*in reference to this http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/01/adobe-porn-flash/)
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Not just for porn how bout any website the used embedded flash content. IPhone=fail when it comes to flash. Adobe said may never happen for IOS because of jobs dictatorship over the OS..
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squish099 said:
Not just for porn how bout any website the used embedded flash content. IPhone=fail when it comes to flash. Adobe said may never happen for IOS because of jobs dictatorship over the OS..
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I know, I was using the porn thing as a joke.
$600 to spend on a phone. Sure, I could have gotten an iPhone, but no, what did I get? An HD2. Why? Things can be done with this phone that the iPhone will never see. Multi OS capability? HD2 yes, iPhone no. Android? HD2 yes, iPhone - maybe. If I wanted some old man tellin' me what to do, heck, I'd just speak to my grandfather. (if he were alive)
squish099 said:
If you think iPhone is better y are you here @ xda which is devoted to winmo and open source operating systems like android webos... iPhone sux, too restricted.. if I wanted someone else to decide what I could look @ and the apps I could download I would let my mommy do it for me.. (by the way I'm 29 don't ask my mommy to do much lmao)
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since you failed to get the satire in beybenbey's post in its entirety, perhaps you should be asking your mommy more often.
kdeguy said:
since you failed to get the satire in beybenbey's post in its entirety, perhaps you should be asking your mommy more often.
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Haha I was going to post the exact same thing but somehow I decided to check all the posts first.
So does it bug anyone else when some one calls Android "Droid". Bugs the freakin crap out of me!
I am just saying.
mobile porn is amazing....
lol
FriedSushi87 said:
mobile porn is amazing....
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ha ha ha off topic... jokes
Help meeeeee!!!
Pleazzzeeh​
My PhOnE iS a BrIcK. Help Cotulla
I want you fix now gauner1986 and DarkStone1337
Please urgent Cass67 and mattc
Camera do not work hastarin
My life is mess
Always wanted to do that
Nand Benchmarking
I don´t know its useful. I found today an app called"Android hacker's system tool "
This tool can Benchmarking NAND and SD card. It was Interesting to see the difference of Android on Nand and Android on SD. But at this moment only devs can test this.
4tune said:
Always wanted to do that ​
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That's what most people do asking and crying before searching and afterwards, if the get no response, they are telling us we're idiots and stuff and whatever..
But I think this thread will make my days ​
hazard99 said:
So does it bug anyone else when some one calls Android "Droid". Bugs the freakin crap out of me!
I am just saying.
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+ 1
Droid sounds like an animal which is extinct
squish099 said:
If you think iPhone is better y are you here @ xda which is devoted to winmo and open source operating systems like android webos... iPhone sux, too restricted.. if I wanted someone else to decide what I could look @ and the apps I could download I would let my mommy do it for me.. (by the way I'm 29 don't ask my mommy to do much lmao)
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I do

Can the Gingerbread build that runs in RAM be loaded from NAND?

Can it?
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No.
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Nope. It will blow up and explode your phone, until it becomes a smoking brick. It can also cause obnoxious diahriea and non stop crying due to bricked phone syndrome.
In all seriousness, it is possible, but there are no gingerbread roms out there yet for NAND boot.
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ThaDeanesta said:
Nope. It will blow up and explode your phone, until it becomes a smoking brick. It can also cause obnoxious v and non stop crying due to bricked phone syndrome....
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ThaDeanesta is correct the diarrhea caused by a Ginger-Ram-Nand ROM is rather obnoxious and I have not stopped crying since I flashed it...
ThaDeanesta said:
Nope. It will blow up and explode your phone, until it becomes a smoking brick. It can also cause obnoxious diahriea and non stop crying due to bricked phone syndrome.
In all seriousness, it is possible, but there are no gingerbread roms out there yet for NAND boot.
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OMG
I Saw that happen too
He! He! He!
Simple answers for simple questions bro, toilet humor is so ooo...(middle school)..just get away from your pc or phone and find a female to relieve all that tension my friend. Happy new year btw, cheers!
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xhanay said:
Simple answers for simple questions bro, toilet humor is so ooo...(middle school)..just get away from your pc or phone and find a female to relieve all that tension my friend. Happy new year btw, cheers!
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If you dont like silly answers, dont ask silly questions. Simple!
If it was possible (currently) to run Gingerbread from NAND there would be a Gingerbread NAND rom, there isnt, so ther answer is NO.
You could have answered your own question simply by looking in the dev forum ffs, why not just use the seach function and search topic titles for the word "NAND" ????
Again, simple!
Seriously man, if you thought that my question was silly, the way you answered just gave away that you have no other life outside this blog. Not everyone understands technical jargon as much a you have shown with your sarcastic responses. I wonder if I would've gotten the same if we were standing in front of each other? A simple yes or no would've been sufficient. Now go and flame some other new member...Flame¿QueeN?!
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johncmolyneux said:
No.
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Looks like the "simple answer" was hiding from you. I love humor, though, and I think I'm going to use ThaDeanesta and krook6023's exchange as my gmail status, if neither minds.
curiousgeorge said:
looks like the "simple answer" was hiding from you. I love humor, though, and i think i'm going to use thadeanesta and krook6023's exchange as my gmail status, if neither minds.
:d
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ok ok ok
gingerbread nand rom is out
mdj
xhanay said:
Seriously man, if you thought that my question was silly, the way you answered just gave away that you have no other life outside this blog. Not everyone understands technical jargon as much a you have shown with your sarcastic responses. #1 I wonder if I would've gotten the same if we were standing in front of each other? A simple yes or no would've been sufficient. Now go and flame some other new member...Flame¿QueeN?!
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You called this a Blog...
It's a forum!.
There are many of us who come on here as a hobby---and almost all of us have a common goal- to make our phones better. If you think we have no other life, you're wrong!
Answer to bold number one: Yes, I'm sure you would have. I tend to be very sarcastic all the time!
Answer to bold number two: No, This is NOT considered flaming. Nobody here is calling anybody any names. Nobody is making fun of anybody! Just keep it chill.
Thanks!
mally2 said:
ok ok ok
gingerbread nand rom is out
mdj
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The OP was asking if there was a NAND RAM Gingerbread rom out there.
cant it be loaded from nand to ram as it is from sd card?it would be faster i guess and also stabler..but thats upon the brain of the forum.basically nothing of all this can happen till they make it happen..
I don't think the OP is asking if there is a NAND RAM Gingerbread rom already, but if it is possible to make a rom like this.
And although there is no such rom yet, I'm also wondering if it is possible.
(I've never used a RAM rom though)

IS there a future for HD2 and WP7 ?

Will the Dark Forces Team continue development for our HD2's ?
Does anyone know if they are planning on continuing development, or does all this depend on Microsoft's updates ?
I am quite excited waiting to find out the answer.
I guess we won't know until we know unless someone has contacts within DFT?
I will continue to use WP7 even if the current version is the last for the HD2 as long as this version continues to let me buy apps from the market. Hoping that MS don't lock that aspect down.
Have Cotulla, others, and the members of the Dark Forces Team ever you let you down on past projects? Maybe that is one way of looking at the question of the OP.
I dont think there is a future.... I mean... 2012 is near and then the world will end, with or without WP7 on HD2..
Why do you ask this (stupid) question? is there a reason or info that nobody will develop anymore? Just wait or start developing yourself^^
I think things will really start to flow after Microsofts updated coming "soon". There will be no point of releasing another rom before that.
dertester123 said:
I dont think there is a future.... I mean... 2012 is near and then the world will end, with or without WP7 on HD2..
Why do you ask this (stupid) question? is there a reason or info that nobody will develop anymore? Just wait or start developing yourself^^
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Sorry forgot about the 2012 thing...
As for WP7, bit hooked to it really, actually thinking of changing my beloved HD2 for HD7, but this is such a drastic thing to do, all I wanted was just a glimmer of hope from DFT....
What do you need from DFT? Normal features should work (which are less than android only having better looks =/ )
Actually there are people working on a kitchen, MS will update and i think there will be some nice updates vom DFT in future.
January 22 I sent one of the members of DFT message.
xxx said:
ahmedsaid said:
...Are you going to release another version of WP7?...
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...we will...
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dertester123 said:
I dont think there is a future.... I mean... 2012 is near and then the world will end, with or without WP7 on HD2..
Why do you ask this (stupid) question? is there a reason or info that nobody will develop anymore? Just wait or start developing yourself^^
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Are you serious? There should be a law forbidding people like you to even your mouth. Save post like that for the idiot forums ok?
cwwjr1681 said:
Are you serious? There should be a law forbidding people like you to even your mouth. Save post like that for the idiot forums ok?
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Seriously? Your troll comment was much less useful than the OP.
Least they were asking a question which was a valid concern - which has drawn out a good response from ahmedsaid.
ahmedsaid said:
January 22 I sent one of the members of DFT message.
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That's all I needed to know, thank you
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ahmedsaid said:
January 22 I sent one of the members of DFT message.
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...lot of dots there...was part of the conversation snipped...or are you making things up...?
I cut out part of my conversation, which was negligible.
THUDUK said:
Sorry forgot about the 2012 thing...
As for WP7, bit hooked to it really, actually thinking of changing my beloved HD2 for HD7, but this is such a drastic thing to do, all I wanted was just a glimmer of hope from DFT....
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At this time i wouldn't recommend to change to a new phone, I first wanted to do it myself, but then I stopped to thinking on it. Here's why:
- The smartphones will soon get a huge step forward, there will be models with dual and even quadcores in it ^^
- There will be new batteries with up to 10000 mah but they dont use the normal battery slot to fit in the phone, they are quite smaller
- The display type will soon change to Amoled, so it gets slowly standarised
Normally when you purchase a phone, you want to take it for at least 2 years, so you would miss all that (ok the new battery will take a while until it comes out )

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