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Photo quality (with pictures)

Here are the first photos I have seen on the web.
http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-ace-en.shtml#4
(edit: more shots in post #6 below)
It probably doesn't come as a surprise to most of you: the iphone is still king.
It is sad that such an expensive phone with an 8M pixels camera still makes such poor pictures in 2010/2011, when my 10 years old 3M pixels Fuji camera (which is far from high end) has been making perfect shots for the past 10 years.
After the iphone with its great camera and the galaxy s with its great super amoled screen, HTC comes out with a new high end dream phone: old gen LCD screen and old gen camera. (Oh yeah, it does have a faster CPU and more RAM - this should make me feel much better, considering the Desire/N1 was almost unusable with its bad performance..... /sarcasm off).
Seriously, there's no excuse when the iphone can do so much better with a 5M camera.
Ok, these were taken with an engineering sample. But knowing HTC, do you believe this can improve when it releases in 2 weeks?
PS: and for those wondering about the video quality, it isn't better than what we have seen from the Desire, but the fps is more stable thanks to the faster cpu: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8202670&postcount=83

HTC simply doesn't give a rat's ass about photo & external speakers quality. That's all fine and dandy, but then they shouldn't label their devices with "HD" when they clearly aren't hd.
It's a shame that Nokia N8, whose only downside is that unlucky Symbian OS, will be cheaper than Desire HD. Actually, it's the other way around, it's a shame Desire HD will be more expensive than N8.
think imma skip this one. In fact, I'll skip all HTC's untill they start using better cameras and better speakers.

Photos were taken under poor lighting conditions, which effect the white balance, and noise and they are blurry (slow shutter speed).
Not the ideal test imo... I'd rather wait for some outdoor performance.

Iphone - King?
was just wondering... since when has the iphone become King of pictures?
I dunno about Iphone4, but when I compare the 3gs with my Desire, the Desire clearly takes better pictures, and in bad light conditions, the Iphone wont even shoot a decent picture (no flash) :/
If someone is the king of picture/video it must be sony ericsson.
Even though, I still think HTC makes quiet okay pictures outdoors in daylight.
Haven't heard of Iphone beeing better at this?

larsn84 said:
was just wondering... since when has the iphone become King of pictures?
I dunno about Iphone4, but when I compare the 3gs with my Desire, the Desire clearly takes better pictures, and in bad light conditions, the Iphone wont even shoot a decent picture (no flash) :/
If someone is the king of picture/video it must be sony ericsson.
Even though, I still think HTC makes quiet okay pictures outdoors in daylight.
Haven't heard of Iphone beeing better at this?
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Well, we are talking about new phones coming out in 2010/2011, so of course I am talking about the iphone 4 and not the old iphone 3. Furthermore, keep in mind that you are comparing a new 2010 Desire with the old iphone 3.
In every comparative review I have seen the iphone 4 camera always comes out on top. It takes pictures that are at the beginning of something worth keeping, whereas the HTC cameras are just "okay", as you say, good enough if you want to show something to someone, but who would want to keep such horrible pictures in their photo album?
The iphone 4 shots, while not perfect, are something you can keep.
Anyway, we'll be seeing some more shots soon; I am still hoping for the best

Some more shots on this page: http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/?prod_id=4018&tid=4509706
The 8MP quality is quite poor, but the advantage with such a high resolution, is that once you resize the pictures and make them smaller it isn't bad at all anymore.
I think a good test would be to take a pic with the iphone 4 at 5MP and the same pic with the Desire HD at 8MP, and then resize it to 5MP to compare.
(reload the page if the pics don't load, or go to the above link and then reload the page. The remote site seems a little strange at times)

larsn84 said:
I dunno about Iphone4,
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There goes your problem. The iPhone 4 really is very good at taking pics.
They became the king of pictures since the iPhone 4.
The video capture is also very good. Even better than those mini camcoders.
Check out the sample shots from the same site.
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/apple-iphone4-en.shtml#8
Saying that, the lighting condition wasn't fair in the Desire HD review.

BigMango said:
Some more shots on this page: http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/?prod_id=4018&tid=4509706
The 8MP quality is quite poor, but the advantage with such a high resolution, is that once you resize the pictures and make them smaller it isn't bad at all anymore.
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very true.
My laptop at 1600x900 is pretty high res, but i still need to make the 8mpx shots smaller to see the whole pic. After resizing the quality looks pretty damn good. Much sharper.

I hate iphone but fact is iphone pixture quality is brilliant compared to any htc phone. I'm fan of htc but do feel let down by their camera, video and sound quality. Having said this I well probably still purchase dhd as everything else they do pretty well im comparison to any other smartphone.
Htc always promises great things but tend to short change thier loyal customers with their cheap skate antics.

Early indications show that the camera in the HTC Desire isn't noticeably better (if at all) than the Desire - have to say that for a high end phone costing nearly £500 this is disappointing at best!
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There goes your problem. The iPhone 4 really is very good at taking pics.
They became the king of pictures since the iPhone 4.
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Not sure I agree with that. Most pupular perhaps but certainly not the best. Nokia have always had Apple licked in this department and I can't see that changing any time soon.
One of the big let downs of the Desire for me was the camera and audio quality, if this has not been improved I see no reason to dash out and buy these new models.

Early indications show that the camera in the HTC Desire isn't noticeably better (if at all) than the Desire - have to say that for a high end phone costing nearly £500 this is disappointing at best!
One of the big let downs of the Desire for me was the camera and audio quality, if this has not been improved I see no reason to dash out and buy these new models.
wywywywy said:
There goes your problem. The iPhone 4 really is very good at taking pics.
They became the king of pictures since the iPhone 4.
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Not sure I agree with that. Most p0pular perhaps but certainly not the best. Nokia have always had Apple licked in this department and I can't see that changing any time soon.

Right now all I am concerned about is the audio quality for recording. The evo had sucky sound quality from recording video, because of the stupid AMR codec, have they fixed that yet or what?

mupet0000 said:
Right now all I am concerned about is the audio quality for recording. The evo had sucky sound quality from recording video, because of the stupid AMR codec, have they fixed that yet or what?
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judging from the videos posted here, the DHD records in AAC format, with a sampling rate of 44.1 KHz at 65 Kbps. I think this is an improvement, but im not sure of the EVO's output. If someone knows where i can download an evo clip to compare..

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judging from the videos posted here, the DHD records in AAC format, with a sampling rate of 44.1 KHz at 65 Kbps. I think this is an improvement, but im not sure of the EVO's output. If someone knows where i can download an evo clip to compare..
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Yeah I just now watched this clip of the DHD and I'm happy with it, a LOT better sounding than the evo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VGxi9X3wzo
This is an evo clip I watched, but there are many on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_SPR_3wNQ0

mupet0000 said:
Yeah I just now watched this clip of the DHD and I'm happy with it, a LOT better sounding than the evo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VGxi9X3wzo
This is an evo clip I watched, but there are many on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_SPR_3wNQ0
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It would be preferable to compare with the original clip, not one uploaded to youtube. I'll do some snooping.
edit: looks like the EVO only does 8 Khz compared to the DHD's 44 Khz. Not sure on the bitrate though.
second edit: EVO records audio at 12.8 kbps compared to DHD's 65 kbps. Huge difference.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...evo-4gs-720p-hd-video-camera-paris-in-videos/

If the figures are correct then it's very promising. However the youtube clip is not making me excited about the quality. I certainly hope it's better then the evo but I have lowered my expections as far as the camera, video quality is concerned. This way I won't be dissappointed. Simples.
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The i-Phone may now be good at shooting but it's definitely not the King.
Have you seen shots and video taken on the Galaxy S?
They are amazing.
This is part down to a very good sensor with a nice low 2.3 f-stop making it ideal for low light shooting.
I was hoping so much for the Desire HD but if what is so far seen to go by there is nothing to whet my appetite.

Beards said:
The i-Phone may now be good at shooting but it's definitely not the King.
Have you seen shots and video taken on the Galaxy S?
They are amazing.
This is part down to a very good sensor with a nice low 2.3 f-stop making it ideal for low light shooting.
I was hoping so much for the Desire HD but if what is so far seen to go by there is nothing to whet my appetite.
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According to the dozens of reviews and comparative tests I have seen, the Iphone 4 always comes out on top.
Yes, the Galaxy S is good (most of the time comes out 2nd behind the iphone4), but Iphone 4 is better.
For example, here is iphone 4 vs android video comparison (galaxy s, desire and nexus one): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_v4EJT3aTg (at 0:22 you can click on each phone to get the big video for each).
As you can see, the iphone 4 is far above everything else (but I agree the Galaxy is not bad).
As for photo, here:
Galaxy S: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_p9pmpIdf0q4/TI5bjpyyxuI/AAAAAAAAAi8/tfNGrB8CsGI/s1600/S16.jpg
Iphone 4: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_p9pmpIdf0q4/TI5bi08vgZI/AAAAAAAAAi0/9-6SJY9Bkzw/s1600/I16.JPG
And there's more here (iphone 4 vs galaxy s): http://androidhd.blogspot.com/2010/09/test-iphone-4-vs-samsung-galaxy-s.html
Seriously, once you have seen the many comparisons on the net you can only see that the Iphone 4 being better really isn't open to discussion. (and no I never had and probably never will have an iphone).
edit: but I agree, the galaxy s is very good in low light conditions. Many complain about the absence of flash, but it does much better without a flash than most other phones with flash do.

BigMango said:
Seriously, once you have seen the many comparisons on the net you can only see that the Iphone 4 being better really isn't open to discussion. (and no I never had and probably never will have an iphone).
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Apologies and I say this with all sincerity but I don't need to see or read the comments on the net.
My remarks are based on actual usage of the GS and first-hand observations of the Desire and i-Phone 4 operating at the same time.
I don't know who took the shot using the GS but they most certainly did not use the phone correctly... It is exceptionally bad.
All it takes is for the lens to be very slightly to the right/left/up/down of a another shot to pick up differing light patterns which in turn can cause all manner of display issue.
I have no issue whatsoever with the i-Phone's camera, indeed it very good and a marked improvement over the i-Phone 3g.
But from a personal point of view I find it difficult to accept it being termed 'The King'..... But each to their own and I most certainly would not knock your opinion or observation.

Beards said:
Apologies and I say this with all sincerity but I don't need to see or read the comments on the net.
My remarks are based on actual usage of the GS and first-hand observations of the Desire and i-Phone 4 operating at the same time.
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Well, to me dozens of different testers (some amateurs and some professionals) can't be wrong. Especially when the iphone 4 never failed to come out on top.
And I really did a lot of research on this as I was about to get a GS myself (before deciding to wait for the Desire HD).
But of course, I am glad you are very pleased with the GS. This is the most important in the end, isn't it.
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I don't know who took the shot using the GS but they most certainly did not use the phone correctly... It is exceptionally bad.
All it takes is for the lens to be very slightly to the right/left/up/down of a another shot to pick up differing light patterns which in turn can cause all manner of display issue.
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So lets summarize the Galaxy S:
- Buggy GPS, sometimes it works for some people, sometimes it doesn't
- Laggy phone, sometimes it lags... sometimes not...
- Buggy camera, sometimes it works great for some people, sometimes it doesn't...
Iphone 4: it just works.
Beards said:
But from a personal point of view I find it difficult to accept it being termed 'The King'..... But each to their own and I most certainly would not knock your opinion or observation.
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Well, that's not just my opinion. It's the conclusions of almost all of the testers on the web, amateurs and professionals as well.
By the way, I have posted several supportive links. Where are yours? (just kidding, this is a Desire HD thread after all)

Desire HD camera sensor.

Hello guys...
I have DHD rooted so I was searching some files with root explorer and I found this:
In sys/android_camera there is a file with name sensor.
So I opened this file with Root Explorer (View as text) and inside I saw the model of camera sensor that DHD uses and it's the OmniVision ov8810 8M...
After a little search in the web I found the official description of this sensor and you can find it here http://www.ovt.com/products/sensor.php?id=61#specifications.
From the Product Specifications you can see that the sensor can take video at 1080p.
So I assumed that we have the hardware but we miss the software...
Am I right???

Interesting. It can even take 720p in 60FPS, which would be veeery nice.

Ohh, interesting...

This does not surprise me. HTC is well-known for hampering their cameras. Maybe in an OTA later on or some crafty XDAer will check this out. I suggest PM'ing the ones who got 720p on the various other phones so they can check this out.
By the way, if my thoughts are correct and my eyes don't fool me, it says "10 @ Full"... even though I'm thinking this is full 8mp @ 10fps recording, this just does not seem real. No way in hell.

1080p? Honestly? I mean, it barely manages to capture [email protected]*, let alone [email protected], not to mention 1080p. I know DHD is one of the most powerful phone today, but I seriously doubt it has enough grunt to record at anything over 720p. Of course, I would be very glad if I could be proven wrong, but I'm affraid it won't happen .
Most of all, I would like to see it record video in [email protected] properly, especially in low(ish) light conditions.
On the brighter side, the image sensor does seem to be able to record in [email protected], [email protected] or indeed 10fps in full res, but I imagine it would require pretty fast memory card.
*Or it could be just stock SD card write speed limitation, but I doubt it.

gsmarena.com has been bashing the DHD's camera, in their latest review of the SE arc they even say that DHD is worthy of a true 8 megapixel camera comparison
i'm not on the latest rom so i can't tell if they've really made any improvements on the camera quality and i haven't been taking enough pictures to judge but i think there's no point in having 1080*60fps if the quality of the videos is ****

jeRrRKKKK said:
in their latest review of the SE arc they even say that DHD is worthy of a true 8 megapixel camera comparison
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They said DHD is not worthy of a true 8 megapixel camera comparison. Corrected that for you.

bobale said:
They said DHD is not worthy of a true 8 megapixel camera comparison. Corrected that for you.
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DHD can't match the quality of my 7mp camera. Lenses make all the difference, megapixels alone are pretty useless.
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I use a custom ROM that is based in 1.72 and I have a class10 MicroSD and the video on 720p is very good with no lags...
So the thing I mentioned in first post is that the hardware seems to be capable to shoot in 30 @ 1080p.
No if the phone with all other parts is capable is another thing that some developers could answer...

sengork said:
DHD can't match the quality of my 7mp camera. Lenses make all the difference, megapixels alone are pretty useless.
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Bang on!
But as a phone I fell DHDs camera is good enough, well for me anyway.
I would certainly like to see how the phone would handle 1080p recording lol, just for fun.

The CPU does not support video encoding above 720p 30fps.

leppie said:
The CPU does not support video encoding above 720p 30fps.
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Only the dual cores that comeing up to future phones support encoding above 720p??

Frankly, DHD can't match my Nokia N95 from 2007, let alone my Sony 4mpix camera from 2006.

my one is different
samsung S5K3H1GX 8M
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Really???
That's strange... HTC put different hardware in the same device???
That's not fare cause I assume that Samsung's sensor might be better than mine...

Mine has a samsung S5K3H1GX 8M
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kalagas said:
Really???
That's strange... HTC put different hardware in the same device???
That's not fare cause I assume that Samsung's sensor might be better than mine...
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Mine also has a samsung S5K3H1GX 8M, and I can assure you it can't be better than yours

I like taking photos, but I never expected a phone to do too much.
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kalagas said:
Really???
That's strange... HTC put different hardware in the same device???
That's not fare cause I assume that Samsung's sensor might be better than mine...
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I have no qualms about the camera, for me it is 3 times better than my old Touch HD

how to check ? mind have guides please ?

Sony Arc vs HTC

Hi,
I am considering the Arc to be my next phone but I would like to know about its video capabilities. In nearly all HTC phones, when recording in low light conditions/at night, the camera tries to compensate the lack of light and this tends to make the video lose frames and to be really choppy. Does the Arc perform better and does it skips frames in bad lighting conditions?
Thanks!!

Videos are great on the Arc, I'd say better than on HTC.
Didn't test it on my Arc yet but in youtube are smooth videos from the Arc.
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Final5k said:
Hi,
I am considering the Arc to be my next phone but I would like to know about its video capabilities. In nearly all HTC phones, when recording in low light conditions/at night, the camera tries to compensate the lack of light and this tends to make the video lose frames and to be really choppy. Does the Arc perform better and does it skips frames in bad lighting conditions?
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Most of HTC phones have really ****ty cameras, actually the worse on the market.
Don't even wonder. Arc is another planet.

best cam of HTC is at Sensation, and is one of the best on the market now... i think

HTC Sensation is a class lower compared to Xperia Arc - not only with regard to the camera.
Dualcore is not everything.

shtreber said:
best cam of HTC is at Sensation, and is one of the best on the market now... i think
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Even mobile-review proves different.

GSMArena has a comparison of the LG Optimus 2X, HTC Sensation and Samsung Galaxy S2 which also features various other handsets at different junctures.
When comparing still image and video capture, they also throw in the Arc for good measure.
Draw your own conclusions.

If u own 1 HTC, then you own all off em because they all look the same. That's why I bought the ARC.

I agree, HTC phones are one class lower than SonyEricsson in terms of build quality, design and phone technology.
By just comparing the phone battery technology, all their phones are still using Lithium Ion Battery while SonyEricsson's phone are using Lithium Polymer and everyone should know that there are more benefits for Lithium Polymer over Lithium Ion Batteries.

Hey thanks for all your replies. I think I'll have to try one at the shop to get a better idea on the device itself before deciding. Still, the camera seems to be the only thing that appeals to me - the screen is a bit small (I've own 4.3 hd2/desire hd and now a 5 inch dell streak). Will definitely have to play with it - still the Arc seems to be a very sexy phone!
Thanks all!

Some of these replies look quite fanboyish.. there's a reason HTC sells so many phones..more than SE atleast
Anyway, add me to the SE fanboy list Until I get bored of Timescape I will stick to SE

There are 2 simple reasons why htc have and still do sell more phones than SE....
1. They've been in the android business since the start..
2. Until now SE's android phones have been relatively poor, and therefore SE had a bad rep.
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I have a last question : If the zoom function is used while recording a video, does the camera automatically auto-focuses the video to make it clearer/sharper, or is the video blurry when zoom is used like in every phone model? Thanks!!

Final5k said:
I have a last question : If the zoom function is used while recording a video, does the camera automatically auto-focuses the video to make it clearer/sharper, or is the video blurry when zoom is used like in every phone model? Thanks!!
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When you're capturing videos, you can't zoom in

Hope this helps you

007Arc said:
When you're capturing videos, you can't zoom in
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Oh now i realised why all videos on youtube don't have any zoom on them. Thank you very much for the infos.

I've currently got an Xperia Arc and a HTC Desire S. The camera on the Arc is superior to that on the HTC as is video recording. I've actually been a bit shocked by how poor the HTC Desire S camera is for pictures although a friend with the new Sensation says that it has a great camera, he does however qualify that by going on to say it is great "for a HTC camera" which to me, says it all.

Maybe these thread can help you to decide.
Post Pictures Taken With The Xperia Arc - LT15i/a
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035589
Post Pictures Taken With Your Sensation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131274
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ucubz said:
Maybe these thread can help you to decide.
Post Pictures Taken With The Xperia Arc - LT15i/a
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035589
Post Pictures Taken With Your Sensation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131274
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wow.. there's no comparison! Sensation's camera is quite average...

Hi,
I have the HTC Desire Z and I would like to get a 2nd phone.
There are only 2 options for me: The Arc or the Desire S. I think both HTC and SE are top manufactures in terms of design and build quality, the rest are just iS**t clones
I like the Desire S because of the uni-body aluminum design, but I think The Arc is nicer. I am a little bit concerned about the quality of the plastic on the Arc's back, an also i don't like the size ( 3,7 seams ideal for me).
I don't care about the camera, but I'm sure SE's is much better.

so im due an upgrade...

I have seen the reviews of the galaxy sii and sensation, i thought i would have a look at the galaxy?
Seems very nice but i was more interested in the camera features than anything.
The guy in the phone shop was game to help me compare the difference in image quality, so we took pictures of the same object at roughly same direction distance etc.
I was shocked!
The default software on both phones showed @ .2-.5mb file size difference, the galaxy image seemed like it had some filter on it to 'smooth' some of the noise, macro shots were lovely on the galaxy but bottom line was galaxy was only slightly better.
I use 360camera app and we tried that in comparison, and WOW! The image quality was far more superior on my DHD.
The couldnt believe it?
The video on the sii was far better full stop.
So i think i might hold out on the upgrade until autum until the new models apear?
As nice as both these phones looked i seriously dont see a big enough improvement to warrent me getting rid of my dhd?
Has any one else tried to physically compare?

In the same boat as you mate. Thought about getting a dual core but it just didn't seem worth it at this time.
Right now I'm going to stick with the Dhd which has held me in good stead and wait to see what comes out in the months to follow.
Basically Gingerbread isn't optimized for dual cores anyway. It's a bit like the situation we had with computers a few years ago where the 64 bit cpu had just come out but it had no value over 32 bit because there wasn't any 64 bit software.
So now I'm going to wait and see for phones to be released with ice cream sandwich, as it's slated to support dual cores.
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Its sonething i will sit on for sure, as tempting as it was after seeing no significant improvement in the camera (its the camera thats of interest to me) it would be a waste of time.
No doubt in the next few months we will see a 10-12mp camera on and android phone.

Yeah, I'd agree very much. My friend has a Galaxy S2, I wanted to see how much of an improvement the camera was. I have a really messed up camera, due to dropping it on a sharp edge on the gym equipment in my room, the camera cover smashed and my autofocus doesn't work as well as it used to. Either ways, I decided to compare pictures, but with a tree, and from a little distance as it would be easy to see which camera captured more definition on some leaves. Ok, stock to stock, Galaxy S2 won hands down. Stock camera on the Desire HD produced an image with weird sharpness and a bloom effect of sorts, so the yellows were a little strong. The whole image as a whole seemed to have a dream effect applied (in comparison to the Galaxy S2's stock image).
Anyways I then decided to try Camera360 AND Vignette on my phone. WOW big difference! My image was around 9-10mb in file size, and was MUCH sharper. Not only sharper, but it caught the detail around the leaves and on the leaves. Scaling in 100% to the relative image size on my HD monitor, there was no real loss in quality, and details could easily be seen. Next, tried the Camera360 on his, wasn't much difference from the stock camera, even with settings to 100% JPEG quality. So i'd say, stock to stock, Galaxy S2 wins. Camera360 wise, Desire HD wins hands down, although not by a massive difference. Images were a little clearer. Now, when I tried out HD recording using stock to stock, 720p test of course, the Galaxy S2 owned the Desire HD D: But using lgCamera, and raising bitrate to 20mbps (The Desire HD actually recorded it in 26.5mbps) Desire HD was quite good, almost on par with the Galaxy S2. Galaxy S2 recorded in 12mbps, so double the bitrate on the Desire HD but less than double increase in quality (obviously). I changed encoding settings to h264 on Desire HD, file size was around 150mb a minute at 720p. Didn't have a chance to try out 1080p with lgCamera and high bitrate, although I think it'll have a high bitrate as standard. Stock 1080p on Galaxy S2 was visually STUNNING, to say the least very cool. Wish I could record in 1080p on the Desire HD I like to compare new things. So although the Galaxy S2 has a nicer screen, and dual core, it's not really that much faster in day to day apps (excluding games since I don't game on my phones much) and only other benefit is 1080p! I'd rather get a dedicated camera/camcorder for that then spend that much for that facility in a phone. So for me, I don't feel as though it's such a big upgrade. I'll wait to see what else comes out...bleh i'm poor atm anyways

jamiee6610 said:
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No doubt in the next few months we will see a 10-12mp camera on and android phone.
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Yup, i'm sure we will. Bound to happen.
They should've put the sensor in the Desire HD to better use when it comes to HD recording...the pictures turn out good!

Elemental_Fire said:
Yup, i'm sure we will. Bound to happen.
They should've put the sensor in the Desire HD to better use when it comes to HD recording...the pictures turn out good!
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If you are referring to 1080p recording its not possible due to the processor limitations. The only 1080p phones are dual cores.
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Nope, I meant they could have used a better sharpening algorithm while the video is being recorded. And yeah, I know it's very unlikely for a single core to record in 1080p

jamiee6610 said:
No doubt in the next few months we will see a 10-12mp camera on and android phone.
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But whats the use of 10-12mp if they don't put in a bigger sensor?

neandertaler19 said:
But whats the use of 10-12mp if they don't put in a bigger sensor?
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nothing.. absolutely nothing . it is a way to trick customers
even a sony cyber shot 6mp camera which was available 2 years before .. click better picture then our 8mp camera..due to larger light sensor.
but yea you should remember its a phone .. not a camera.. you cannot have best of the two worlds.

HTC One Camera - Video Recording

Anyone could test the video stabilization, because I´m seeing a lot of video on youtube and the fps broke sometimes.
These are the videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UJPbW-v-Ik
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPs5M93fhfs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y75_J1zCO40&list=UUYAuOW09D5X2mD8vM4zslug&index=1
Even in the presentation the fps stucks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLjBbK4rxAo
Sorry my English. I´m from Brazil

germanojose said:
Anyone could test the video stabilization, because I´m seeing a lot of video on youtube and the fps broke sometimes.
These are the videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UJPbW-v-Ik
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPs5M93fhfs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y75_J1zCO40&list=UUYAuOW09D5X2mD8vM4zslug&index=1
Even in the presentation the fps stucks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLjBbK4rxAo
Sorry my English. I´m from Brazil
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Isnt recording in 1080p HDR only like 28fps? Maybe that's the problem.

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Isnt recording in 1080p HDR only like 28fps? Maybe that's the problem.
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That's not the problem. 28fps is plenty enough for smooth motion. The video recording just sucks in general on HTC phones. Even the official "two girls walking into sunlight and then turning back to smile" video is jerky and not completely smooth. HTC is claiming they have OIS, but I don't see any evidence of it at all. In fact, disregarding jerkiness, the video just really really sucks. The colors are completely off and overly red and gaudy. The motion of objects in the video have a nauseatingly awkward movement to them. The details and colors are all smeared looking and cartoonified. It doesn't look natural or real at all. All these issues are evident in the HTC One X, Sensation, Desire HD, etc. They are not unique to the HTC One. I've been *****ing about how terrible HTC's video recording is for years now, and even now in 2013 it's still the same old crap.

Guys it could be that its the demo unit..The retail unit might have everything fixed..Lets wait and watch.

added to the mega info thread!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38231188#post38231188

I think its a problem of build because i had a Desire HD and when I installed the rom from sabsa prime, the latest, the câmera is working without loosing fps and on Endeavoru I just changed the build.prop configuration and the issue minimized. I'll be waiting the custom rom to see this fix.
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katamari201 said:
That's not the problem. 28fps is plenty enough for smooth motion. The video recording just sucks in general on HTC phones. Even the official "two girls walking into sunlight and then turning back to smile" video is jerky and not completely smooth. HTC is claiming they have OIS, but I don't see any evidence of it at all. In fact, disregarding jerkiness, the video just really really sucks. The colors are completely off and overly red and gaudy. The motion of objects in the video have a nauseatingly awkward movement to them. The details and colors are all smeared looking and cartoonified. It doesn't look natural or real at all. All these issues are evident in the HTC One X, Sensation, Desire HD, etc. They are not unique to the HTC One. I've been *****ing about how terrible HTC's video recording is for years now, and even now in 2013 it's still the same old crap.
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Call me inept, but I would blame that on the Filmer, it isn't very noticeable to me. Looks roughly the same as other OEMs.

Another video, same problem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weSY1tolEKA

Those vids could be early software design.
On my epic 4g touch I get crappy video with AOSP and great video with the stock rom. My AOSP vids look like these vids being posted which is simply due to un-optimized codecs for the processor.
I'm sure this wont be the case with the final builds.

HTC is claiming that the UltraPixel camera on the HTC One will be able to capture 300 percent more light than competitors. You can shoot 1080p HD videos, HDR videos and there's a single LED flash for even better low-light shooting.
^ Is it comparable to sony xperia z 13mp cam ?

bismeetsahoo said:
HTC is claiming that the UltraPixel camera on the HTC One will be able to capture 300 percent more light than competitors. You can shoot 1080p HD videos, HDR videos and there's a single LED flash for even better low-light shooting.
^ Is it comparable to sony xperia z 13mp cam ?
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The Speria pics look worse than my E4GT.
I've been in the camera bix for years and one thing is for sure, if you pack more dots into a smaller area the dots are then smaller. Less surface area means less light hits it and therefor less color spectrum capture and less light band capture. The reason SLR cameras can hit the higher pixels is due to the CCD size. The CCD is WAY bigger in the SLR than any cell phone so it can capture more color spectrum and more light bands.
I for one think that the camera in the HTC One will really stun people when they actually use it next to their old phone.

I have the same problem

I hope HTC focuses on an update. It took forever to get anything when I have the evo 4g

Every video or picture I've seen from the HTC One (especially the videos) have looked average to flat out bad.. Really hope this is just due to insufficient software optimization and will be corrected before release as right now it's not looking too good.

never trust HTC
Your marketing is bad and liar

New test sample, Fixed FPS, I think the others videos was with HDR ON.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ6VZW6NUFY
In this Video go to 29.9~30FPS Static

rapha.194 said:
never trust HTC
Your marketing is bad and liar
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38326427
You're a Xperia Z spammer!
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ethan3686 said:
Guys it could be that its the demo unit..The retail unit might have everything fixed..Lets wait and watch.
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I've heard this liine a I've heard this line a million times, for dozens of phones I've followed through the years. Either from delusional people, from fanboys, or just simply ignorant people who don't follow this stuff closely. Images taken from the demo unit that's trotted out to the press when it is announced will not magically grow wings and transform into something else on the final product, especially when there's only a few weeks til launch. Even going from alpha stages, with the final camera hardware is decided, the difference is marginal. You really think they have to start from the ground up building software for the camera for every single new smartphone? Like a puppy who is blind at birth and it's eyes open after a few weeks? It is not only ridiculous, but it has never been true. SGS2, SGS3, Nokia Lumia 920, Pureview 808, HTC One X, Xperia Z, and every other smartphone ever, even going back to Sony and Nokia candybar phones with buttons.

katamari201 said:
i've heard this liine a i've heard this line a million times, for dozens of phones i've followed through the years. Either from delusional people, from fanboys, or just simply ignorant people who don't follow this stuff closely. Images taken from the demo unit that's trotted out to the press when it is announced will not magically grow wings and transform into something else on the final product, especially when there's only a few weeks til launch. Even going from alpha stages, with the final camera hardware is decided, the difference is marginal. You really think they have to start from the ground up building software for the camera for every single new smartphone? Like a puppy who is blind at birth and it's eyes open after a few weeks? It is not only ridiculous, but it has never been true. Sgs2, sgs3, nokia lumia 920, pureview 808, htc one x, xperia z, and every other smartphone ever, even going back to sony and nokia candybar phones with buttons.
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HTC again disappoints me
Lost in comparative picture between Lumia 920
and now lost for the Iphone 5
http://asia.cnet.com/htc-one-vs-iphone-5-camera-shootout-62220556.htm
This camera can be better than Motorola Razr Hd ?
And I say more ....
Camera 13 MP's Xperia z NOT does better than IP5 and Galaxy S3!
They should make a mobile with 10 mm and put a bigger sensor a battery and a decent audio quality than that of those who make war USELESS phone thinner.

ethan3686 said:
Guys it could be that its the demo unit..The retail unit might have everything fixed..Lets wait and watch.
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Yea most likely. They probably slapped on some low quality parts to have some demo units available.
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