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I have a 3 year old Trendnet router Wireless N I only paid $19 for it. I was wanting to upgrade to a newer router for more distance range. I am lucky to live where my nearest neighbor is over 600 feet away.
I was hoping to hear from those who have had success with newer routers and those who have had problems with specific routers.
I'm only 15 feet away from the router and I only have 2 bars up on the WIFI icon. I have had trouble with using my laptop on my front porch also.
If I may, I'd suggest something that's a dual-band unit, since the mT4G supports 5GHz wireless-N, in addition to the B and G 2.4GHz-based stuff. I've had good luck with WiFi calling on my Linksys E3000, and I use a harddrive on it as well (it has a USB port). The two newest laptops, and my phone, all use 5GHz N, while the other stuff (including the G2 and Charm in the house) use the 2.4GHz G stuff.
i wouldnt suggest using N at all unless you need that speed, unless you have that fast of a internet provider MY opinion is you dont need it. The signal that it uses (5Ghz) bounces off walls and objects very easy. To get better penetration go with G or like the person above said, dual band.
I picked up a Apple AirPort Extreme after reading through some post on distance of wireless routers. I downloaded a WiFi app and the old one set to b/g only has more signal strength than the 2.4 GHz or 5 GHz on the Extreme. I am still having problems with WiFi Calling, but have found if I turn the phone off then restart it will connect to WiFi Calling and stay as long as I am in range of the router.
I did notice that the 2.4 GHz channel was stronger than the 5 GHz on the Extreme in all distance checks.
5 ghz is best when you have loads of neighbors or lots of personal APs, and need clear channels.... I run a g AP in 2.4 an n in 2.4 both 40mhz wide, and an n backbone at 5.
I have a 310n and rt-n16 that give me full signal..... both on 40mhz wide with WiFi performance on, pulling 16-20Mbps
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i swear i will post a pic soon off my nexus s, but just to let you guys know:
all my wifi is 20mb/s plus...i have never gotten this on practically anything.
nexus one 9-10 mb
ipad 12-15mb
nexus s 12-15mb as well
this is clocking on avg 20-22mb
ANYONE ELSE? This **** is BEASTMODE. Im going to make a baby today! WOOO
dudeimgeorge said:
i swear i will post a pic soon off my nexus s, but just to let you guys know:
all my wifi is 20mb/s plus...i have never gotten this on practically anything.
nexus one 9-10 mb
ipad 12-15mb
nexus s 12-15mb as well
this is clocking on avg 20-22mb
ANYONE ELSE? This **** is BEASTMODE. Im going to make a baby today! WOOO
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I think the AnandTech.com review said they got 72mb/s with it. It was the fastest phone/tablet they had tested over wifi by a mile.
I haven't tested the wifi connection, but as far as the internet connection on wifi goes, I was getting around 11mb/s, then a minute later I would get 1.5mb/s, then I would get a bunch of pages that wouldn't load.
What's the max you can get on WiFi? Isn't it 54mbps?
Jrockttu said:
I think the AnandTech.com review said they got 72mb/s with it. It was the fastest phone/tablet they had tested over wifi by a mile.
I haven't tested the wifi connection, but as far as the internet connection on wifi goes, I was getting around 11mb/s, then a minute later I would get 1.5mb/s, then I would get a bunch of pages that wouldn't load.
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its rated at 72Mbps they only got 36Mbps out of it which is still fastest phone/ tablet they have tested. iPad was the leader with 30.something... Looks like the Optimus 2X also had 30.somethingalittlelower...
i can't get above 12-13 on phone or computer...
I get 19-20 mb/s with the tab on the same network.
Same here, i'm consistently getting 20-22Mb/s on my Xoom. My DroidX never goes above 16 or 17.
Neo3D said:
What's the max you can get on WiFi? Isn't it 54mbps?
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if you have a wireless g adapter. i believe wireless n can go up to 128 mbps but dont quote me on that
socomdark said:
if you have a wireless g adapter. i believe wireless n can go up to 128 mbps but dont quote me on that
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yeah, im only quoting you on how off you are on this statement. haha. very off
dudeimgeorge said:
yeah, im only quoting you on how off you are on this statement. haha. very off
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that made me lol so i give you thanks. yea im not quite certain on how wireless tech works. Im just going by what i remember when I had xp and it told you bitrate down at the taskbar if you hovered or the wifi signal. When I had a wireless b/g router it always said 54mbps but when I got a wireless b/g/n router it said 128 mbps.
well the a/b/g/n bands are in both wifi bands of 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz respectively. The a/n bands are in the 5GHz band, and it has a higher data transfer rate, but shorter distance. It goes thru brick walls easier tho.
wireless n can get anywhere from 130-160 realworld, and is capable of reaching 300mbps. but if your router has other devices on it that operate at any of the 2.4GHz bands, then you'll greatly decrease your speeds using n.
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well the a/b/g/n bands are in both wifi bands of 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz respectively. The a/n bands are in the 5GHz band, and it has a higher data transfer rate, but shorter distance. It goes thru brick walls easier tho.
wireless n can get anywhere from 130-160 realworld, and is capable of reaching 300mbps. but if your router has other devices on it that operate at any of the 2.4GHz bands, then you'll greatly decrease your speeds using n.
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thanks for the info. I have been more of a gamer most my life but recently got into tech last year so im still learning.
Alright so I've read that the a500 has wireless N. However, I cant see my network. I have a dual band Netgear router which emits G on 2.4ghz frequency for older devices in my house, and it also emits N on 5ghz. My a500 can't even see that. Is the iconia limited to N only on 2.4? Anyone else have this problem? Its notntoo big of a deal but I'd like to use my N network if possible.
I beleive it is limited to N at 2.4. I have no problems connecting to my N network.
Ah, that's a shame. I dont want to put my N on 2.4 because then I can't have a separate network for G on 5 ghz. Oh well, not too big a deal.
Yea, I connect at 72Mbps upstairs, in a concrete house. 2.4GHz 20MHz channel only. No bonding for 300Mbps.
802.11g isn't supported on 5GHz. The similar speed on that spectrum is 802.11a.
Is it just me or do you find the wifi strength to be really poor?
My friend was at my house last night and his htc incredible said full signal and mine said 1 bar
Does software affect anything?
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Nope but the signal strength is poorly indicated bars mean little if you have no bars and full strength signal .
Use speedtest.net to measure .
jje
Yes I also noticed that when the signal is poor but the device is connected, the connection is blend but solid..
But the GS2 receiver is 1/3 than the receiver of the desire HD
I noticed some improvement with KF2 baseband imho the best receiver and the minor battery drainer for the device
for me its working fine. No issues
chaplu said:
for me its working fine. No issues
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I didn't say "issue" but that i've noticed that the power of the GS2 wifi receiver is minor in confront of the DesireHD receiver
Imho it is the only sin of this fanstastic, strongest device
Yeah, I also have poor wi-fi signal, regularly 1 or 2 bars less than iphone 4 or even my old htc desire. Sometimes this will happen even if I stand barely 2 feet away from the router. But the connection is always solid, when it's there.
adem_7 said:
Yeah, I also have poor wi-fi signal, regularly 1 or 2 bars less than iphone 4 or even my old htc desire. Sometimes this will happen even if I stand barely 2 feet away from the router. But the connection is always solid, when it's there.
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Right....if the connection start, don't worry is will be rock solid
But, often the problem is catch the connection when the signal is poor
Agree on this. Mine showing 2 bars but i cant browse or it is slow as hell. On desire no problem at all.
Nuked from Galaxy S II conquered by VillainROM v2.1.0
Well as long as it works (mine does, flawlessly), I really couldn't care less about how many bars are displayed.
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The wifi strenght sucks on my SGII too..
I was used to surf from my room , even with my iPod touch 3g (only B/G), but the SGII takes just one bar of signal and doesen't work, and that's strange considering that it supports B/G/N...
Well,it's a little crappy compared to the Desire HD admitedly,but meh,whatever.The final result is the same.The Desire HD has had the best wifi receiver among all my phones by the way,so we aren't comparing the S2 with some ****ty phone.
It puzzles me everytime I see one of these threads. I find the WiFi reception on the device to be great, much better than my last handset, Desire HD. The DHD would struggle to hold a connection in the rear bedroom of my last house, which was at the opposite end of the house to the router. It was so bad I had to use Connectify.me as a bridge via my laptop! The SGS2 would hold a connection without issue, even going out into the rear garden, something my N1 could not achieve. I'm stumped as to why some people really struggle with the signal strength on WiFi.
Regards.
Most of the the time my SGS2 show 1 out of 4 bars, even when i'm very close to wi-fi access point, however i woudn't say that the connection is worse comparing to when I have 4 bars. Probably this is a software issue...
should hope dev improve this. my Desire still can get the signal even if i'm outside of my house, and while reversing the car going out through the gate, it still catch the signal. GS2 didnt get this kind of reception, but it is fast once it does get reception.
I used to have the same Wi-Fi problems with my Galaxy S2 having little or no reception while all my other devices were working fine.
I fixed the problem by setting my phone to use static IP at all times when connected to the wireless network.
To do this go to:
Wireless and network > Wi-Fi Settings > Advanced (menu button)
Then check "Use static IP" and fill in the network details.
Ever since I did that, I have been getting at least three bars signal at all times and had no problems getting a connection inside or outside the house. I reckon it's a bug with the android firmware itself (I'm using rooted stock 2.3.3 KF3 btw). That or it hates my D-Link router.
ADropBear said:
I used to have the same Wi-Fi problems with my Galaxy S2 having little or no reception while all my other devices were working fine.
I fixed the problem by setting my phone to use static IP at all times when connected to the wireless network.
To do this go to:
Wireless and network > Wi-Fi Settings > Advanced (menu button)
Then check "Use static IP" and fill in the network details.
Ever since I did that, I have been getting at least three bars signal at all times and had no problems getting a connection inside or outside the house. I reckon it's a bug with the android firmware itself (I'm using rooted stock 2.3.3 KF3 btw). That or it hates my D-Link router.
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I'll try this when I'm at home mate and I'll report back
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Just tested KG2 modem and its giving a much stronger signal at what was the extremes of range for other modems . Signal not wifi indicator .
jje
Im less than 2 meters away from the router and it indicates 2 bars of 3!! I had better indicators for the previos phones
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JJEgan said:
Just tested KG2 modem and its giving a much stronger signal at what was the extremes of range for other modems . Signal not wifi indicator .
jje
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I can confirm this JJe.
Also,lynxboy,something must have been wrong with your Desire HD.Currently,the S2 is the second best phone I've had in terms of connectivity,but my DHD is on a level of its own.It sometimes even beats my laptop and doesn't lose connection no matter how I hold it.I never believed that the S2's wifi is actually bad,but it's certainly not as good as the Desire HD's.
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The SGS2 doesn't like all routers equally. A couple of us with Netgear router's are getting great performance - better than with previous devices. It doesn't seem to like D-Link. D-Link's also cause its battery to drain faster. There's a thread started on that already.
I'm reading in lots of places that the nexus 10 supports 802.11a. But in http://www.google.com/nexus/10/specs/ shows its not supported. What's up with it??
Why would you want to use a? It is the oldest spec and very very slow.
Possibly referring to 802.11ac?
EniGmA1987 said:
Why would you want to use a? It is the oldest spec and very very slow.
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It's not the oldest spec. It has the same speed as 802.11g, and its actually faster as it works in the 5GHz band, which is usually not as congested as the 2.4GHz band.
tirantloblanc said:
I'm reading in lots of places that the nexus 10 supports 802.11a. But in http://www.google.com/nexus/10/specs/ shows its not supported. What's up with it??
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Hi,
In short yes.
Used my Asus RT-N66U and set it to "Legacy" instead of N.
Link speed shows as 54Mhz in INSSIDER and network properties on my laptop.
N10 connects to 5GHz network and "Network Signal Info" shows also 54Mhz on channel 48.
Cheers
RobRoy said:
Hi,
In short yes.
Used my Asus RT-N66U and set it to "Legacy" instead of N.
Link speed shows as 54Mhz in INSSIDER and network properties on my laptop.
N10 connects to 5GHz network and "Network Signal Info" shows also 54Mhz on channel 48.
Cheers
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5GHz for better speed or range ?
It suports wifi 802.11n in both 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz;
That means it is also compatible with 802.11a and 802.11b/g;
If you have a 802.11n capable of 5Ghz, you can even enjoy wide channel support, getting a connection of 300Mbps instead of 144Mbps which is the maximum supported through 2.4Ghz 802.11n.
You can get better speed with 5Ghz, but that does not take the fact that 2.4Ghz gives better range...
kieu96 said:
5GHz for better speed or range ?
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5Ghz for better speed, at closer range.
If you need to push the range, it will probably give you worse speed compared to 2.4.
I live in a crowded 2.4Ghz area, at close range, 5Ghz is faster, but as I get away, 2.4Ghz is a far more reliable choice despite the fight with other networks around...
About selecting legacy and disabling N entirely, I do not think it is a very good idea unless there is something truly wrong with your WiFi network or you suffer some weird incompatibility with an old device (I have not come across anything like that).
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It's not the oldest spec. It has the same speed as 802.11g, and its actually faster as it works in the 5GHz band, which is usually not as congested as the 2.4GHz band.
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Wireless A and B were the first two lettered specs to come out. A was the 5GHz higher speed spec and B was the 2.4GHz longer range one. Wireless G came out years later, and Wireless N after that.
Here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11
EniGmA1987 said:
Wireless A and B were the first two specs to come out. A was the 5GHz higher speed spec and B was the 2.4GHz longer range one. Wireless G came out years later, and Wireless N after that.
Here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11
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You should read the links you post 802.11-1997 came out before b and a. I still have some equipment with that spec. 5ghz came later. it was very fast but expensive as hell, so b became more common.
RobRoy said:
Hi,
In short yes.
Used my Asus RT-N66U and set it to "Legacy" instead of N.
Link speed shows as 54Mhz in INSSIDER and network properties on my laptop.
N10 connects to 5GHz network and "Network Signal Info" shows also 54Mhz on channel 48.
Cheers
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Thanks. I don't have any A equipment at home, so I couldn't test it.
runaway64 said:
5Ghz for better speed, at closer range.
If you need to push the range, it will probably give you worse speed compared to 2.4.
I live in a crowded 2.4Ghz area, at close range, 5Ghz is faster, but as I get away, 2.4Ghz is a far more reliable choice despite the fight with other networks around...
About selecting legacy and disabling N entirely, I do not think it is a very good idea unless there is something truly wrong with your WiFi network or you suffer some weird incompatibility with an old device (I have not come across anything like that).
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Also keep in mind that the N10 only supports single channel N (20Mhz) on 2.4 but dual channel on 5Ghz.
I get quite good range and because of a lot of neighbouring networks actually use it in the 5Ghz band.
No issues for me.
But it really depends on individual circumstances
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Also keep in mind that the N10 only supports single channel N (20Mhz) on 2.4 but dual channel on 5Ghz.
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In my first reply I already pointed at that:
RobRoy said:
If you have a 802.11n capable of 5Ghz, you can even enjoy wide channel support, getting a connection of 300Mbps instead of 144Mbps which is the maximum supported through 2.4Ghz 802.11n.
You can get better speed with 5Ghz, but that does not take the fact that 2.4Ghz gives better range...
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I referred to that in the resulting link speed, since it is easier to identify in the tablet itself with little knowledge.
EDIT: The second quote is mine, should point to this comment
I am keeping the mistake to keep the coherence on the following comments.
runaway64 said:
RobRoy said:
If you have a 802.11n capable of 5Ghz, you can even enjoy wide channel support, getting a connection of 300Mbps instead of 144Mbps which is the maximum supported through 2.4Ghz 802.11n.
You can get better speed with 5Ghz, but that does not take the fact that 2.4Ghz gives better range...
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I referred to that in the resulting link speed, since it is easier to identify in the tablet itself with little knowledge.
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Im confused... You are the one who said that, then quoted yourself but stuck Roy's name in place and made a comment about how you said it first? Here, ill link you to your post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37247705&postcount=7
runaway64 said:
It suports wifi 802.11n in both 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz;
That means it is also compatible with 802.11a and 802.11b/g;
If you have a 802.11n capable of 5Ghz, you can even enjoy wide channel support, getting a connection of 300Mbps instead of 144Mbps which is the maximum supported through 2.4Ghz 802.11n.
You can get better speed with 5Ghz, but that does not take the fact that 2.4Ghz gives better range...
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EniGmA1987 said:
Im confused... You are the one who said that, then quoted yourself but stuck Roy's name in place and made a comment about how you said it first? Here, ill link you to your post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37247705&postcount=7
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I think we both came up with the result.
My original post is here for reference
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1962523&page=3.
At the end we all contribute to the common knowledge we share
EniGmA1987 said:
Im confused... You are the one who said that, then quoted yourself but stuck Roy's name in place and made a comment about how you said it first? Here, ill link you to your post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37247705&postcount=7
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I am sorry, I added the quoting code and I did not notice the wrong quote for my own words.
I guess reading my comment is clear I had not any wrong intentions...