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I need some serious help.

My Nexus one won't turn on. I tried flashing RADIO 32.24.00.22U_4.03.00.21_2 that I downloaded from Modaco.
After it failed to install showing the error message like
"Multiple Radio images"
and a few others I try to reboot it.
when trying to reboot it there showed a picture of a android and a orangish arrow and a box.
Help...I think I bricked it.

Help?
Please?

Can you get into boot loader? Hold down the track ball, then power on, and keep holding down the track ball...
Also, try holding down the "volume down" toggle button while powering on if the track ball method doesn't work...
If both don't do anything but take you to that same screen, let it sit on that screen for a bit, say 10 minutes just in case...
If still nothing, see what happens when you plug your phone into your computer with the data cable, is it recognized? If so, can you get ADB to recognize it?

Jackasaur said:
Help?
Please?
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can u get to the recovery image? if u can, its not bricked.

well I tried plugging it into the computer, I tried the wall charger, and nothing seems to work. The LED doesn't come on, and the button combination doesn't work. So I think it's dead for good. :C Before everything got screwed All I saw was a box and an arrow pointing at a android. Which I think meant it was unboxing. I then thought it froze so I tried to take the battery out, and after that it didn't turn on anymore. No LED, no recovery, no nothing. :C Quite sad.

Why the f are so many people intent on taking their batteries out while the phone is updating? I'm not saying that led to the bricking...but it probably didn't help.

Jackasaur said:
well I tried plugging it into the computer, I tried the wall charger, and nothing seems to work. The LED doesn't come on, and the button combination doesn't work. So I think it's dead for good. :C Before everything got screwed All I saw was a box and an arrow pointing at a android. Which I think meant it was unboxing. I then thought it froze so I tried to take the battery out, and after that it didn't turn on anymore. No LED, no recovery, no nothing. :C Quite sad.
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This part takes a few minutes. I am not totally sure what is happening at this point but I'm assuming it's not good to remove battery during this. Mine sat on that screen for a few min and then finished.

Try to boot up with volume down button held. Then use volume arrows to choose recovery and hit power.

uansari1 said:
Why the f are so many people intent on taking their batteries out while the phone is updating? I'm not saying that led to the bricking...but it probably didn't help.
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Everyone expects everything to be instant these days... "Uh oh! The screen isn't doing anything, it's been at least 20 seconds! I could just wait and leave it for a few minutes like all the guides say to do. Or I could take my battery out...how could that hurt, right?"
For me it took a good 3-4 minutes on the screen with the arrow and the box.
Anyways, if you can't get to the recovery then you might be buying a new N1.

ahh it took like 5 minutes for me, I have to admit I was a little worried since you dont see status bars or anything, but like said, the guides warn for this.
I cant imagine that removing the battery broke it though, he should be able to load a recovery image
I feel sad for him so bumping

Bleh. I'll just have to wait and see. I'll contact HTC.

tomsan84 said:
ahh it took like 5 minutes for me, I have to admit I was a little worried since you dont see status bars or anything, but like said, the guides warn for this.
I cant imagine that removing the battery broke it though, he should be able to load a recovery image
I feel sad for him so bumping
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If you remove the battery during the period he did, which is when the phone is actually flashing the radio ROM, yes removing the battery can and likely did break it for him. There are 2 ways to brick an Android device, while flashing a radio ROM and while flashing an SPL...
OP, have you tried any of the button combos we have recommended? Have you tried putting your battery in the phone, then without turning it on, putting it on the charger to see if it can charge the battery at least (you said it wasn't even turning on, which is likely because you have a dead battery)... charge the battery first, then try the button combo's we recommended.
And please, when you report back, and not to sound like an ass, do so clearly and systematically (I can't tell from your posts what did or didn't happen, and whether you tried anything we suggested, nor what the current state of the phone is)... so, please use this format to make it clear to us trying to help:
Battery: Charged or Wouldn't Charge (LED will come on if it is charging)
Trackball+Power: Booted into boot loader, yay! or Went to the damn box
Volume down+Power: Booted into fast boot! or Went to the damn box
And remember, you have to hold down the button, either trackball or volume down, then press the power and keep holding down the trackball or volume down until it either goes to boot loader or it goes to the box screen... you might want to even wait for a minute on the box screen(if it goes to that) while holding down the button to make sure it can't get into boot loader...

Okay so I took the battery out, put it back in, and tried charging it. The Battery LED did not come on, so I'm guessing it's not charging.
The Trackball+Power did not work.
The Volume down+Power did not work.
I think I most likely broke it, due to the fact that I took the battery out while it was flashing the radio ROM onto the phone. I kinda did it on a impulse, which is my fault. So do you think it'd be possible if I did contact HTC they'd send me a swap, and not be able to make my phone work or turn on, and everything will go on as if I "broke" it and not unlock it or anything?

Jackasaur said:
Okay so I took the battery out, put it back in, and tried charging it. The Battery LED did not come on, so I'm guessing it's not charging.
The Trackball+Power did not work.
The Volume down+Power did not work.
I think I most likely broke it, due to the fact that I took the battery out while it was flashing the radio ROM onto the phone. I kinda did it on a impulse, which is my fault. So do you think it'd be possible if I did contact HTC they'd send me a swap, and not be able to make my phone work or turn on, and everything will go on as if I "broke" it and not unlock it or anything?
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It sounds like you have a true brick... disruption of the radio ROM flashing causes lots of bricks, and did so for you.
It is pretty common, at least with T-Mobile with the G1, to call them up and tell them your phone asked you to update, and while updating it froze and won't turn on or charge anymore. Not sure if HTC will handle it the same as T-Mobile did, but if they do they will just send you a new unit, you send the old one back, and you are back up and running... they might ask that you send it to them first, but there is no way for them to test if it was rooted/unlock boot loader if it can't be powered on, so you should be fine.

Sweet. So I called HTC, and they said they'll repair it, but I asked for a swap instead, so I'll be getting one by either Wednesday, or Thursday. Good stuff! I'll tell you all how it goes. :] Now I am stuck with my Nokia N95. Thanks for all your help.

Did you tell them you have an unlocked bootloader?

uansari1 said:
Did you tell them you have an unlocked bootloader?
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he doesnt have 2 tell em

lightforce said:
he doesnt have 2 tell em
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Yeah, he doesn't have to tell them... but they don't have to cover his phone either.
If they find out it's unlocked after the fact, they can charge you to repair the phone.

How exactly will they know he unlocked the bootloader if the device cannot even properly turn on, unless htc has other methods of being able to "restore" the phone, then he should be rather ok. Am I not looking into this deeply enough? Can the phone turn on with a new battery or something? Does HTC have alternatives ways of checking?

Eclair~ said:
How exactly will they know he unlocked the bootloader if the device cannot even properly turn on, unless htc has other methods of being able to "restore" the phone, then he should be rather ok. Am I not looking into this deeply enough? Can the phone turn on with a new battery or something?
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That's my point man.. I don't know. All they have to see is that open padlock and they can deny the claim.

My vibrant is totally bricked

Unable to turn it on. totally bricked

So... Are you unable to turn it on due to no fingers?

Lol yea what happened?

Well, we need a bit more info.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

1. have you tried "power button" ?
2. have you charged the phone ?
on a bright side, you are the 1st one !

Maybe your battery is loose? Not to mention that bricking a
phone is usually due to screwing up a software flash. So, is brick really the right word?
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kolyan said:
1. have you tried "power button" ?
2. have you charged the phone ?
on a bright side, you are the 1st one !
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LOL!!
Try holding down the volume down button as you turn the phone on...see if that does anything.

Only time I'd allow the "First" comment to be used in a thread.
Im guessing CW Recovery...

Thank you guys
I think it's bricked, and unrecoverable.
After several flashing, It suddenly turned off then never woke up again. Any effort so far is hopeless

bl4ckdr4g00n said:
Thank you guys
I think it's bricked, and unrecoverable.
After several flashing, It suddenly turned off then never woke up again. Any effort so far is hopeless
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What were you flashing? Give more info and maybe ppl would/could help you!

All~G1 said:
What were you flashing? Give more info and maybe ppl would/could help you!
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I tried with captivate stock firmware, i9000 international firmware, then I flash back to vibrant stock firmware.
After had things done with Odin, my phone restarted, and it was the last time I saw my baby working as a smart phone.

Did you try to reboot the phone into recovery or download mode?

DAKIDD236 said:
Did you try to reboot the phone into recovery or download mode?
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How can I do that when I can't even turn it on?

bl4ckdr4g00n said:
How can I do that when I can't even turn it on?
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Have you tried plugging it into your charger? does the battery/charging screen come on?

bl4ckdr4g00n said:
How can I do that when I can't even turn it on?
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try this Koush posted this in his thread.. hope it works
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If you are stuck on the phone to PC screen, you are NOT bricked. During development, I ended up getting into this state a couple times myself. You can still get into download mode in the same fashion.
Connect your phone to USB so you get the phone->PC screen. Press and hold both volume up/down. Then press and also hold Home. Then start pressing and holding power for 2 seconds. After 2 seconds, let go of power. Continue holding volume up, volume down, and home, until you get into download mode.
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All~G1 said:
Have you tried plugging it into your charger? does the battery/charging screen come on?
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no, a completely blank screen.
no icon, no GUI, no nothing (

Yeah, weird...I just flashed back to US firmware and now my phone is totally unresponsive to everything. Keep in mind I've flashed back and forth several times...even once thought my phone was bricked because the power button wouldn't even turn the screen on. But after holding the correct buttons it finally booted into download mode. I was even using my phone earlier just fine, and having it run quadrant test of 1700, but as soon as I flashed back to 100% stock US firmware, my phone now no longer boots. Go figure lol.
Though this time I think it has bit the dust for real, lol. So be weary of flashing back to US firmware if you are flashing a lot of different other firmwares. Cuz I think something happens and the key combinations get deleted so it refuses to boot into any mode.

DAKIDD236 said:
try this Koush posted this in his thread.. hope it works
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I"m at the phone to pc screen..but the Home button is not a "button" it's a touch sensitive button on my vibrant and it won't go into download mode...
I got here because i flashed the custom kernel to put the market and data on a ext4 partition...and it reversed my volume buttons and reversed the routing of sound..headphone speaker..that stuff....so i couldn't hear anything...so when i went to reflash stock t-mobile firmware it told me not to unplug for like hours..it wasn't doing anything.....i took the battery out and now i'm stuck at phone to pc...i think i might just use the warranty..seeing as u can't do a think with it...atleast i can't that is..i feel like a moron...
the forum said to work on com7 but com4 was showing up in odin...i couldn't get it to go on com7 so i thought it should still work....

fykick said:
even once thought my phone was bricked because the power button wouldn't even turn the screen on. But after holding the correct buttons it finally booted into download mode.
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what was your combination?

I hold volume up and down..then hold home with those..then power for 2 seconds..let go and nothing...it doesn't recognize i'm holding the home because it's a software based button..the home key that is..and with no software...no button...so i'm afraid this screen means bricked...adb reboot download won't work either...i'm gunna get it exchanged in the morning..under buyers remorse..

Hard bricked nexus 4 help please?

So last night I hard bricked my nexus 4. its rooted, with cyanogenmod 10.1 ROM, and ive never had any issues with this phone. I have no idea what happened, but I sent a text message to someone, and it powered itself down. it was fully charged when this happened, so I know its not the battery. ive done some research, and its a true hard brick. no bootloader, no recovery, I just get a red/orange flashing light if I hold down the power button. google said im still under warranty, and they will still replace it even with it being rooted. My question is, is it possible to fix without having to get a replacement, or JTAG? If anyone has had any success, please help.
And like I said, I was only sending a text. I have no idea why it bricked, it restarts itself once in a while randomly, but this time it didn't turn back on.

Try plugging it into the wall for about 5 minutes then try turning it on again. If it doesn't work, RMA it. Why would you risk your warranty and JTAG it?

exb0 said:
Try plugging it into the wall for about 5 minutes then try turning it on again. If it doesn't work, RMA it. Why would you risk your warranty and JTAG it?
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No, I DONT want to JTAG it. im looking for alternatives. if its possible to fix a hard brick without JTAG or using my warranty. If at all possible, I want to fix it, because I have a lot of pictures and everything on there that I would like to get out of it. I don't want to lose them. JTAG is my last resort if I cant get it replaced, but they said they would. I want my stuff off it though.

sinndissension said:
No, I DONT want to JTAG it. im looking for alternatives. if its possible to fix a hard brick without JTAG or using my warranty. If at all possible, I want to fix it, because I have a lot of pictures and everything on there that I would like to get out of it. I don't want to lose them. JTAG is my last resort if I cant get it replaced, but they said they would. I want my stuff off it though.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2347060
This is your last hope. If it doesn't work, RMA it and request for your data to be saved. Not sure if they can do it, but just ask.

exb0 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2347060
This is your last hope. If it doesn't work, RMA it and request for your data to be saved. Not sure if they can do it, but just ask.
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thank you I really appreciate it. im gonna try it out and see if it works.
This might be a noob question, but ive never heard of download mode. is it the same as recovery mode on the nexus 4?

sinndissension said:
thank you I really appreciate it. im gonna try it out and see if it works.
This might be a noob question, but ive never heard of download mode. is it the same as recovery mode on the nexus 4?
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Nope. It's different.

sinndissension said:
thank you I really appreciate it. im gonna try it out and see if it works.
This might be a noob question, but ive never heard of download mode. is it the same as recovery mode on the nexus 4?
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You can compare it too fastboot mode.

gee2012 said:
You can compare it too fastboot mode.
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ok so if the nexus 4 wont go into download mode, or fastboot, or anything else, I have no choice but to RMA it right? cuz the ONLY response im getting from it is a red/orange flashing light when I hold down the power button. other than that, nothing happens.

sinndissension said:
ok so if the nexus 4 wont go into download mode, or fastboot, or anything else, I have no choice but to RMA it right? cuz the ONLY response im getting from it is a red/orange flashing light when I hold down the power button. other than that, nothing happens.
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Did you press volume down first and then the power button both for a few seconds to get into fastboot mode?

Nope. The ONLY time it has any sign of life is if the charger is connected to it and I hold down the power button. If it's NOT connected to the charger, pressing the power button does absolutely nothing. I can't go into recovery mode, download mode, or the bootloader. I've tried charging it overnight, (and part of the next day) left it off the charger for over a week, it shows up as "Qualcomm-something" when I plug it into a computer, but I can't do ANYTHING with it connected to a computer either, and after I got my replacement, I tried taking out the battery and putting it back in. There was still no change......I've literally done EVERYTHING short of JTAG. Trust me, I searched all over google, and XDA, and tried everything. As far as I know, hard bricking is rare, but it happens. And it just happened, to happen to me. So unless there's a solution someone knows of that I didn't just list, my last option is JTAG.

sinndissension said:
yep. ive done EVERY combination of holding down the buttons, no response. when I plug it in to a laptop, the laptop beeps, like the USB connection sound, but the nexus doesn't show up on the computer. I know the computer recognized what kind of phone it was, cuz the first time I plugged it in, I got a pop up message saying "installing qualcom drivers", or along the lines of that. other than that, NOTHING has worked. If theres ANY fix for this, id like to give it a try, cuz ALL my stuff is on there.
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Try charging it for a while and try again in a few hours or better yet tomorrow. Sometimes that helps bro. If that doesn`t help you`ll have to take it in for repair an maybe they can salvage your data if they are wiiling to do that. Good luck.

I think it's just your battery(RLOD) instead of a brick.
See this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250454
I wouldn't be worried about your files stored on your phone because I think Google has more work to do than search in peoples pictures. What I would worry about is your warranty since you have a custom rom, unlocked bootloader and root...
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Well, found out it WAS a hard brick. Google replaced it with my warranty. For some reason they returned my money before I even got the chance to send the broken nexus 4 back. Didn't even mail it. So I'm assuming I don't have to send it back. So I'm gonna JTAG the hard bricked nexus, and hopefully it'll work again.
Thanks everyone for your help.

sinndissension said:
ok so if the nexus 4 wont go into download mode, or fastboot, or anything else, I have no choice but to RMA it right? cuz the ONLY response im getting from it is a red/orange flashing light when I hold down the power button. other than that, nothing happens.
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You may not be doing it right. When I get the flashing light on mine it means I forgot to let go of the power button fast enough. When it vibrates, let go of power button immediately but keep pressing the volume. Does your phone vibrate a few seconds prior to the flashing light?
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Nope. The ONLY time it has any sign of life is if the charger is connected to it and I hold down the power button. If it's NOT connected to the charger, pressing the power button does absolutely nothing. I can't go into recovery mode, download mode, on the bootloader. I've tried charging it overnight, (and part of the next day) left it off the charger for over a week, it shows up as "Qualcomm-something" when I plug it into a computer, but I can't do ANYTHING with it connected to a computer either, and after I got my replacement, I tried taking out the battery and putting it back in. There was still no change......I've literally done EVERYTHING short of JTAG. Trust me, I searched all over google, and XDA, and tried everything. As far as I know, hard bricking is rare, but it happens. And it just happened, to happen to me. So unless there's a solution someone know of that I didn't just list, my last option is JTAG.

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Nope. The ONLY time it has any sign of life is if the charger is connected to it and I hold down the power button. If it's NOT connected to the charger, pressing the power button does absolutely nothing. I can't go into recovery mode, download mode, on the bootloader. I've tried charging it overnight, (and part of the next day) left it off the charger for over a week, it shows up as "Qualcomm-something" when I plug it into a computer, but I can't do ANYTHING with it connected to a computer either, and after I got my replacement, I tried taking out the battery and putting it back in. There was still no change......I've literally done EVERYTHING short of JTAG. Trust me, I searched all over google, and XDA, and tried everything. As far as I know, hard bricking is rare, but it happens. And it just happened, to happen to me. So unless there's a solution someone know of that I didn't just list, my last option is JTAG.
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so i have the same problem. was about to tweet with full battery so my question is what did you end up doing? Did you fix it or abandon it?

Weird. I've had the "red light of death" 2 hours ago because i didn't put the phone on the charger and it had like 4%. Pressing Volume down + power got it to enter fastboot and i was able to start the phone normally so it's charging booted

Mashed_Potatoes said:
Weird. I've had the "red light of death" 2 hours ago because i didn't put the phone on the charger and it had like 4%. Pressing Volume down + power got it to enter fastboot and i was able to start the phone normally so it's charging booted
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ok...that has nothing to do with a hard brick. That just means your phone was dying.

dominiqueovalle said:
so i have the same problem. was about to tweet with full battery so my question is what did you end up doing? Did you fix it or abandon it?
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Ok, I got mine replaced because it was still under warranty, and normally, the manufacturer cant tell its rooted or unlocked if its a true hard brick, (rooting and unlocking voids your warranty.) So i got mine replaced.
If your NOT under warranty still, your ONLY option if you want to fix it is JTAG. Google it, it costs about 50 bucks on average, but its cheaper than a Nexus 4. Research JTAG before you try it though. Or you have to buy a new one. I still have my only one, and i basically use it for parts for my newer N4.
Is it a true HARD brick, or just a soft brick?

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Ok, I got mine replaced because it was still under warranty, and normally, the manufacturer cant tell its rooted or unlocked if its a true hard brick, (rooting and unlocking voids your warranty.) So i got mine replaced.
If your NOT under warranty still, your ONLY option if you want to fix it is JTAG. Google it, it costs about 50 bucks on average, but its cheaper than a Nexus 4. Research JTAG before you try it though. Or you have to buy a new one. I still have my only one, and i basically use it for parts for my newer N4.
Is it a true HARD brick, or just a soft brick?
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its a hard brick. ive tried it all bought a new battery installed it etc. ive looked up jtag and i have the money but idk if i should do it. do you recomend it? i have no experience doing anything like it and im planning on getting the iphone 6 in the fall but i cant stand not having a phone till then especially since high school starts soon.
But the reason im sure its a hard brick is cuz when it shut down the battery was like 50 and charging and it froze for 25 seconds or so then shut down and refuses to boot or show any signs of life now except a blinking or solid red light but its not the red light of death because i replaced the battery therefore i came to the conclusion that it is hard bricked.
i know ive said alot of unecessary information but my question is do you think i should buy the jtag thing? do you reckon its easy to do? or maybe i could pay an experienced professional to do it?
thanks for the reply btw

Help! I bricked my phone!

So I was installing the faux kernel, everything seemed to go well and I choose reboot, and the phone shuts off and it won't turn on! I think my mistake was that I left my phone connected to the computer via USB throughout the process, then I noticed it and unplugged it while rebooting. I was using CWM recovery.
Basically, the phone right now won't turn on, period. I've tried taking the battery and sim out and putting them back in. The phone is now entirely unresponsive. So what the heck happened? And what now? I suppose I need to take it to say Best Buy (where I got the phone) and have them take a look now?

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So I was installing the faux kernel, everything seemed to go well and I choose reboot, and the phone shuts off and it won't turn on! I think my mistake was that I left my phone connected to the computer via USB throughout the process, then I noticed it and unplugged it while rebooting. I was using CWM recovery.
Basically, the phone right now won't turn on, period. I've tried taking the battery and sim out and putting them back in. The phone is now entirely unresponsive. So what the heck happened? And what now? I suppose I need to take it to say Best Buy (where I got the phone) and have them take a look now?
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If you can't boot into Dowload Mode and get no video output whatsoever, then you have a "hard brick" and can only fix it via JTAG service. This costs about $25 to repair. Go to ebay and search for JTAG.
And next time, post in the correct forum and read more before flashing. :good:

CZ Eddie said:
If you can't boot into Dowload Mode and get no video output whatsoever, then you have a "hard brick" and can only fix it via JTAG service. This costs about $25 to repair. Go to ebay and search for JTAG.
And next time, post in the correct forum and read more before flashing. :good:
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Thanks! I did realize quickly after I posted that I should've put it in the troubleshooting board, maybe it can be moved? Anyhow, looks like it'll need JTAG service, hope this'll be a lesson for me on many levels lol.

dingyibvs said:
So I was installing the faux kernel, everything seemed to go well and I choose reboot, and the phone shuts off and it won't turn on! I think my mistake was that I left my phone connected to the computer via USB throughout the process, then I noticed it and unplugged it while rebooting. I was using CWM recovery.
Basically, the phone right now won't turn on, period. I've tried taking the battery and sim out and putting them back in. The phone is now entirely unresponsive. So what the heck happened? And what now? I suppose I need to take it to say Best Buy (where I got the phone) and have them take a look now?
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Can you post the exact link of the kernel you flashed? None of the things you described can Or should cause a hard brick.
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[Q] Don't own a G2, found someone selling a bricked one for $100. Worth the risk to b

So there is a guy in my town selling a bricked G2, his ad says "was trying to root my LG G2, Now it wont turn on or anything, even when I try and charge it or plug it in. No idea what do to but dont have time to figure it out and needed a phone for work so have already replaced it."
I don't have one of these phones or know anything about the specifics of rooting them or installing ROMs on them, but I have installed them on my own phone (Optimus G) as well as bricked my own phone a number of times and fixed it.
My main question is, if this guy isn't lying and he didn't just drop it in a toilet and dry it out or something like that, is it possible for rooting or installing a ROM or whatever to completely brick it beyond repair? Or if I hop on IRC and get the necessary tools should it be fixable even if its a slight pain in the ass?
I found with my phone no matter how bad I had messed up there was always LGNPST with the stock software to fix it, so I figured it would be similar for this phone but I wanted some more opinions on it, thanks for the help and sorry for my lack of knowledge.

There are a couple of ways of hard bricking g2s so I'd be really careful with this one. If it won't even light up he might be in qhsusb bulkmode or something. Ask him to let you play around with it, if it goes in download mode and pc recognises it you should get it. If he didn't drop it in the toilet of course.

If the phone wont do a Factory Reset, Vol - and power then at the LG logo let go of power then hold again. I would stay away.
My LG G2 was totally dead that I couldnt get it to boot, download mode, factory reset, or even show the battery charging screen when it was off.
Good thing I was under warranty.

daytonasportster said:
If the phone wont do a Factory Reset, Vol - and power then at the LG logo let go of power then hold again. I would stay away.
My LG G2 was totally dead that I couldnt get it to boot, download mode, factory reset, or even show the battery charging screen when it was off.
Good thing I was under warranty.
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how did you go with replacing it? like what did you tell them?

idonttakedrugs said:
how did you go with replacing it? like what did you tell them?
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The "truth" I took an OTA and it died. I IM'd with tech support and after me telling her its DEAD she wanted me to go to settings, general.... I said its DEAD. So we tried the 2button method and when that didnt work she promptly arraigned to FedEx me a new one.

daytonasportster said:
The "truth" I took an OTA and it died. I IM'd with tech support and after me telling her its DEAD she wanted me to go to settings, general.... I said its DEAD. So we tried the 2button method and when that didnt work she promptly arraigned to FedEx me a new one.
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how did it die may i ask? did your phone crash during the update?

idonttakedrugs said:
how did it die may i ask? did your phone crash during the update?
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It started to process the update, rebooting and stuck. All I could get it to do was show the LG logo if I power cycled it or plugged it in the usb or charger. 2finger factory reset would show the screen but never start.

daytonasportster said:
It started to process the update, rebooting and stuck. All I could get it to do was show the LG logo if I power cycled it or plugged it in the usb or charger. 2finger factory reset would show the screen but never start.
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alright mate im gonna say that