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There is a problem with our battery life and we all know its true... I have even been given a new battery and HTC mains charger
I turn off any service im not using at the time (ie: wifi, BT, GPS, NETGPS,etc) not that I should have to do this, but lets story on track...
My battery will make about 1 day as I am A "power user" but if its not plugged in I wont have the juice for my alarm to wake me up, my wifes Sony Ericsson lasts 4-5 days per charge, but lets not compare apples and oranges, the whi-phone 3g my sister has sahe bought it about the same times as my g1, she hadn't ever heard of "deep cycling" 2-5 times when you get a new phone, she never lets it discharge fully and just tops off all the time, AFAIK she is treating a NIMH cell exactly the wrong way, BUT SHE GETS 1-3 DAYS depending on the type of use, and never turns off ANY of the 3g, gps, net gps, wifi, BT nada and Id say she uses hers alot because its her primary camera, GPS & A/V player
my question is WHY?
Im sure there must be somebody involved with the development of this phone/OS that reads thru here, since there is more exciting stuff coming from XDA than there is the market...
Im gonna add a poll that pertains to battery use...
I wanted to add one very negative one but hit submit not preview, maybe just post and dont vote if none apply..
they better come off a new battery almost all other new phones will get 1-2 day + average use, Ive had phones that could go 3-4. but the state of the art G1 mindblowing innovative phone wont even work a whole day, so what if its bigger than the whi-phone, it has no keyboard.
I for one would like to hear some solid info on a replacement battery and back, for new and existing G1 users, early adopters got the fuzzy end of the lollipop on the HTC->headphone jack adapter I got the headphones with the htc angled adapter from fleabay, so many manufactures stick it to the early adopter, when we are the ones that get the word of mouth going, as people go "WOW that thing is cool!,what is it?! they know when we bought out phones and should be able to figure out when the head phone rev change was made, so send them to the first of the buyers....
IF the battery issue isnt fixed, alot of people will be very angry and the g1 will flop.
I think the bad press is starting to out weigh the good press the G1 and possibly android as a whole is at a crossroad. If the g1 tanks Android will be stained forever...thankfully enuff I dont think XDA-DEV would give up on this badboy, I love this thing, and I love it for what it can be
BhanG
Well stated sir.
HTC/Google need to fix battery problems in G1. Maybe it's soft bug, but maybe it's a hardware bug - Nobody knows
I dunno. With normal use, I get about 12 hours or more from my stock battery. That's about the same as other HTC phones I've had.
there is a battery issue and we are al aware of it.
i have managed to have it last through out the day
just set the brightness to the lowest possible, sleep time to 15 secs
turn off data and wifi and anything else that you are not using
its not how the phone was intended to be used, but it's what i ave to do for now
I find it fine for everyday use. Of course I haven't done a full test but maybe tomorrow I will.
I would like to use my G1 like I use my WinMo but no way I can with the battery.
bhang said:
IF the battery issue isnt fixed, alot of people will be very angry and the g1 will flop.
I think the bad press is starting to out weigh the good press the G1 and possibly android as a whole is at a crossroad. If the g1 tanks Android will be stained forever.
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I think you're exaggerating here a little bit. The battery life, while it got press at first, has faded from the limelight of android news for the general population. The G1 is already far from a flop and I don’t think there’s going to be a sudden mass return of all the handsets sold.
Let’s face it living on the cutting edge means you will get cut sometimes. Your high expectations will not always be met and manufacturers will frequently not care. The battery life is less than what many people expected, but we’ve learned to deal with it. At least we have options (power management, backup batteries, and expanded capacity batteries), but I’d not hold my breath on HTC making any major moves. How long has the issue been going with the TYTN II drivers anyway?
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BUT SHE GETS 1-3 DAYS depending on the type of use, and never turns off ANY of the 3g, gps, net gps, wifi, BT nada
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I have no idea what kind of use gets 1-3 days, but it certainly isn't 3G web browsing. Most iPhone 3G battery life tests clock 3G data use at about 3-5 hours. Based on my own usage of a friend's iPhone 3G, that seems to be about right. Coincidentally my G1 gets about 3-5 hours of 3G data use as well.
Frankly, from an engineer's point of view I have not seen any power drain tests conducted with enough rigor and variable control to be worthy of being called a truly scientific analysis. Even the best "battery life tests" out there aren't declaring what type of testing environment (los and distance to closest 3G tower), what background apps are installed, ambient temperature (which affects the battery discharge profile), etc. Without considering and removing these variables from the test, deviation could be as high as... well there's no fixing the percentage really. It's all just junk data.
I do notice after I installed Task Manager, to close out programs I am not using my battery life went up. There are a lot of un needed start up apps.
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Care to give some examples? Im curious to see what runs on startup that isnt needed.
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I have no idea what kind of use gets 1-3 days, but it certainly isn't 3G web browsing. Most iPhone 3G battery life tests clock 3G data use at about 3-5 hours. Based on my own usage of a friend's iPhone 3G, that seems to be about right. Coincidentally my G1 gets about 3-5 hours of 3G data use as well.
Yep my friend has iphone and we did test last weekend, both went 3 hours and change then died. If i dont use internet and set timeout and brightness down plus use task manager mine will go as long as my dash. I personally dont care about the battery life, i have a computer, home charger and car charger and i drive for a living so if it gets low no biggie. In my opinion i dont see android going anywhere and i love the g1. Just like wm its gonna take time to get off the ground. To say its at a crossroads is ridiculous.
I am using ADP1.1 and yea if I am browsing the net with 3G for 3-5 hours straight I start seeing the battery go down. But from 100% to 0% takes me longer than 5 hours. I know because I like to lay in bed and don't care to come check my messages LOL
I bought a G1 last week and so far I have been really dissapointed. After having an elf and seeing other htc phones I was expecting big things from the G1.
I am now a week into ownership and after 5 full charge - discharge cycles I am managing to get 24 hours out of the phone with next to no use what so ever. If i check my emails and do 30 mins browsing the phone is dead in 6 or less.
The hardware is simply put 'very poor' my screen is wobbly and the back is loose, all this after just a week.
As for android, it is fantastic everything I expected (except hotmail support) and there is no way it is going to flop. Its just a shame that google and htc didn't wait until they had the right phone for the job.
Thats just my 10p worth!!
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Care to give some examples? Im curious to see what runs on startup that isnt needed.
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It all depends on what you have installed. for me the start up is. I beleve amazon does too, but I uninstalled that. But the first thing I do is go into task manager and kill everything. And only like two things auto start up. I really with HTC built in a x-button app for android. I loved the click x for close.
myFaves
messaging
voice dialer
calendar
Alarm clock
k-9
woot checker
tunewiki
gmail
Under light usage I get about 36 hours from full charge to shutdown. That's GPS on, Bluetooth on, Autosync on, periodically doing e-mail and web browsing.
Under heavy usage (Which is basically I listened to MP3s for 2 hours) it goes at least 17 hours before I plug it back in. I haven't tested but I'd bet it could go 20 or more.
That's as good as (or better) than I was getting on the Wizard/MDA.
I dunno if anyone has stated it but the problem with the battery has to do with the phone recieving the cell signal. For some reason the phone runs in overload when searching for a cell signal...I noticed this one day when T-Mo suspended my service and my battery meter never moved all day, I think by night it was down to 85-90%...sure enough that night when I paid my bill and the phone started picking up signal again, the battery depleted at "normal" speed.
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This extended battery barely increases the size of the phone...
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so exactly how much is "barely"? care to give side by side comparison shots?
dubstar_04 said:
As for android, it is fantastic everything I expected (except hotmail support) and there is no way it is going to flop. Its just a shame that google and htc didn't wait until they had the right phone for the job.
Thats just my 10p worth!!
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Why do i keep hearing that there is no hotmail support? Android (and G1) works with hotmail just fine! Just go to the Email program and set it up. WHY!! .. I am having connection errors sometimes though..
Battery is a big issue. Never had any luck with it.. EVER.. just unplugged it and after about 1+ hour it's down to 66%. Played a game (slide puzzle) watched 2 youtube vids of about 3 minutes each. And I had it fully drained and recharged a couple of times in the beginning. It didn't even took 10 minutes to drop from 100% to 89%.. But I was on wifi.. Maybe this is normal.
Software has a lot to do with this I think. Yesterday I had about 50-60% left. Did something, can't remember what, opening programs or music. And closed it. After 5 minutes I checked and battery was hot and had drained to orange level. I checked with task manager and only calendar/messaging/tunewiki/music was on. I closed all and restarted the phone, cuz it was still hot. Luckily it lasted a few hours till I got home, with very carefull use..
im on my 3rd hero now. the first had dust, the second would not update the profile or provision. ive had my new one for 3 days now and the battery life is horrid, even with an extended 2000mAH battery. i had the phone fully charged this morning and within 2 hours without any use it was down to 93% while sleeping? i went ahead and disabled auto syncing, changed my yahoo email to sync at 1 hour intervals instead of every 10 minutes and uninstalled some apps to see if there is a difference. it's been off charge since 4am and now it's sitting at 80% with very light usage and no calls today. is this normal or should i notify sprint? by the way im using the pancake 1.5 rom, usually i had pretty decent battery life until now.
if it"s the phone i know i can know request another phone model since id be going on my 4th replacement, i love the hero but im tired of sprint and there problematic phones. ill request a new moment or a new tp2. worse comes to worse in may my wife and i will leave sprint and go to t-mobile, i hear they don't check credit there to activate new service.
any thoughts guys?
nevermind, I should do more reading before posting sometimes
Did you initially prep your battery by allowing it to fully discharge and recharge before relying on the battery indicator?
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Did you initially prep your battery by allowing it to fully discharge and recharge before relying on the battery indicator?
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the battery is like 2 months old, initially i did, yes. like i said this is my 3rd hero, my last one was running the same rom and the battery life was much better. damn sprint and their refurbished "new" phones.
I'm running ZenHero and I unplugged my phone at about 730 this morning..and as it sits right now im at 50% with syncing set to every hour
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im on my 3rd hero now. the first had dust, the second would not update the profile or provision. ive had my new one for 3 days now and the battery life is horrid, even with an extended 2000mAH battery. i had the phone fully charged this morning and within 2 hours without any use it was down to 93% while sleeping? i went ahead and disabled auto syncing, changed my yahoo email to sync at 1 hour intervals instead of every 10 minutes and uninstalled some apps to see if there is a difference. it's been off charge since 4am and now it's sitting at 80% with very light usage and no calls today. is this normal or should i notify sprint? by the way im using the pancake 1.5 rom, usually i had pretty decent battery life until now.
if it"s the phone i know i can know request another phone model since id be going on my 4th replacement, i love the hero but im tired of sprint and there problematic phones. ill request a new moment or a new tp2. worse comes to worse in may my wife and i will leave sprint and go to t-mobile, i hear they don't check credit there to activate new service.
any thoughts guys?
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You need to keep getting replacements until you find one that works fine. Also, the ROM you're running can contribute to battery. If you're on a Sprint leak rom, make sure to do the *#*#4636#*#* trick.
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I'm running ZenHero and I unplugged my phone at about 730 this morning..and as it sits right now im at 50% with syncing set to every hour
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well yeah the 2.1 roms have worse battery life, im running 1.5 without sense installed. not sure if it's a good comparison. im just trying to figure out if this is normal or if i should call sprint?
Check for common things like time without signal and awake time.
I have my email, twitter, fb, weather, etc. set to check fairly often and they seem to do little to battery life.
My phone comes off the charger at 7:15-7:30 am and is used as a music player for the majority of my 8-9 hours at work, I tend to send about 10-20 texts a day and spend about a half to hour on the phone, by the time I am heading out the battery is usually at 60% or so, some days it is lower some it is higher, right now at 3:45pm the battery is at 73%. On avg the battery is at about 30% when I go to bed at midnight.
Currently running Fresh 2.1d w/ lwp
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well yeah the 2.1 roms have worse battery life, im running 1.5 without sense installed. not sure if it's a good comparison. im just trying to figure out if this is normal or if i should call sprint?
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Ahh..ya my nandroid is 0.1 Pancake with sense and i usually get a full day and I'm at about 25-30%.
Honestly..you are better off with a hero. I came from a moment and a tp2 and neither were "my cup of tea". The moment is plagued with bad support from Samsung and the tp2 while a nice phone..I used it after coming from an android phone and was disappointed in what WM6.5 did not have when compared to Android.
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You need to keep getting replacements until you find one that works fine. Also, the ROM you're running can contribute to battery. If you're on a Sprint leak rom, make sure to do the *#*#4636#*#* trick.
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what trick?
I am running damage 2.0.7.2.8.1.57.5783.5468.4.∞
I was up at 7 this morning, unplugged it first thing- its 15 til 5 PM here now.
I am at ~80% with moderate use. Downloaded about 10 Apps from the market, constant emails coming in (gamil and exchange), facebook, texting, 3 or 4 phone calls.
Wait..you are at 80% after 12 hours? I'd say consider yourself lucky...I'm not at 12 hours yet and im below 50% with just texting.
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I am running damage 2.0.7.2.8.1.57.5783.5468.4.∞
I was up at 7 this morning, unplugged it first thing- its 15 til 5 PM here now.
I am at ~80% with moderate use. Downloaded about 10 Apps from the market, constant emails coming in (gamil and exchange), facebook, texting, 3 or 4 phone calls.
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good lord thats some nice performance there im assuming you get good reception?.....i unplug at 8am and i use my phone constantly at work texting browsing market, internet, prolly 20 mins worth of calls a day (ballpark) but by the time i get home at five im sittin at around 50-60%....im running matrix rom but its been about the same for all the newer 2.1 bulids TBH....i have two batterys because i hate being chained to a charger so aslong as i make it thru work im good and it surves its purpose
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Wait..you are at 80% after 12 hours? I'd say consider yourself lucky...I'm not at 12 hours yet and im below 50% with just texting.
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yeah but it's draining when im not even using the phone at all today, not even texting. this is also on an extended battery. i guess ill call sprint, they told me this was a new phone and it's a refurb...got over 579 calls made under my settings and it says it's a refurb date of 1/10/10. they flat out told me my replacement would be brand new, my 2nd one was.
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Wait..you are at 80% after 12 hours? I'd say consider yourself lucky...I'm not at 12 hours yet and im below 50% with just texting.
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Don't worry, as soon as I hit the interstate on the way home it'll drop 30% just durring the drive, I think I roam the whole drive home. Then when I get there I have full 3G....stupid cell towers.
Ok I know this has got to be a JOKE thread. You are just messing with us right? If my phone was at 80% after 12 hours of light use I would be writing HTC and Sprint telling them how awesome they are. Tell me your just pulling everyone's leg.
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Ok I know this has got to be a JOKE thread. You are just messing with us right? If my phone was at 80% after 12 hours of light use I would be writing HTC and Sprint telling them how awesome they are. Tell me your just pulling everyone's leg.
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no it's not a joke thread, im asking you guys. i had better battery life with my last hero. it drained 20% without any use today. im asking if that's normal on a 2000mAh battery?
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no it's not a joke thread, im asking you guys. i had better battery life with my last hero. it drained 20% without any use today. im asking if that's normal on a 2000mAh battery?
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Without any use my battery is at ~50% after 12 hours on a normal battery. I don't think theres anything wrong with the phone, other than them lying to you and saying it was new.
if its that andida battery, I wouldnt be surprised.....mine seemed to last longer , until it hit 50% then it dropped 1% every 90 seconds
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no it's not a joke thread, im asking you guys. i had better battery life with my last hero. it drained 20% without any use today. im asking if that's normal on a 2000mAh battery?
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I took my phone off the Charger at 6:30am and it's now 2:30pm i'm currently at 70% battery.
this is with around 500+ texts a couple phone calls checking of emails updating a couple of APPs and running Google Buzz
Firmware: 2.1-update1 (sprint 2.1 leak)
Baseband: 2.42.00.03.10
Build: 2.20.321.1 CL157175 test-keys
Software: 2.20.651.1
PRL: 60663
and made sure i did *#*#4636#*#* and made sure it was on CDMA auto PRL
and have "Use Wireless Networks" turned off
Gizmodo and MobileCrunch have pretty much bashed the battery life to make it sound like if its not on the charger, it will die in a matter of an hour or three. For the people who got one from the I/O or other means. What do you get from the phone during a normal days usage? If its that bad, have you guys use SetCPU/Locale/App Killers etc? Thanks.
With light to moderate use, it lasts through the day. A bit worse than Nexus One in that respect, but not too bad.
Agree with sergey.povzner.
Android central had a great review on this. I have heard a mixed bag of battery life. Some sounded very good some didn't. But it's the most power smartphone out there so additional drain is expected.
http://www.androidcentral.com/review-sprint-htc-evo-4g-android-smartphone
It not as good as my n1 but its close. It gets a lot better with custom roms without sense.
Uptime 10:08:35
Awake time 1:46
I had it plugged into computer for about 25 mins to transfer a movie.
I have 80% battery left.
No bluetooth, no GPS, no WIFI.
I don't have anything extra except gmail and another account frequently syncing. I get 4-5 hours of browsing and email with 4g on or off, wifi off, gps off. Standby time doesn't seem to have significant effect though I'm sure it would be measurable if you left it in standby for a day. Adequate to get me though a day, but I hardly use voice.
What if you are watching full length movie on HTC Evo, how long will the battery last (especially if I put it on airplane mode)?
I am planning to switch from from Xperia X10i to HTC Evo. My x10 has the usual battery drain problem but I have controlled it with task killer. However, I am yet to run a full movie on it. If x10's battery life has more survival time (with task killer on it of course) then HTC Evo then I might think twice.
Also can the 'task killer' improve HTC Evo's battery life?
Does anyone know if the Evo uses the HTC Touch Pro size battery like the Hero?
If so then I've already got an external charger and three extra batteries!
Honestly if anyone is that worried about battery life get another battery as a backup. Its been said many times on these forums that a HTC Touch Pro 2 and also a HTC Hero all use the same batteries as the EVO. (Confirmed). You can pick them up on ebay for around 7 or 8$. Which is pretty cheap! Nothing better than having an extra juice pack laying around waiting to be used! Hope this helps somewhat
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Honestly if anyone is that worried about battery life get another battery as a backup. Its been said many times on these forums that a HTC Touch Pro 2 and also a HTC Hero all use the same batteries as the EVO. (Confirmed). You can pick them up on ebay for around 7 or 8$. Which is pretty cheap! Nothing better than having an extra juice pack laying around waiting to be used! Hope this helps somewhat
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LOL we posted at the same time, thanks for answering my question! I'll keep a backup in my glove box and one in my back pocket. This method worked great with my Hero.
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LOL we posted at the same time, thanks for answering my question! I'll keep a backup in my glove box and one in my back pocket. This method worked great with my Hero.
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Great minds think a like. Ya man wont get to hot in that glove box either. Its always nice to have a little something extra especially when we will be showing this bad boy off 24/7 to anyone that wants to see it! Cant wait to "Officially" get mine lol. Im about 17 hrs and 3 minutes form my appt.
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Great minds think a like. Ya man wont get to hot in that glove box either. Its always nice to have a little something extra especially when we will be showing this bad boy off 24/7 to anyone that wants to see it! Cant wait to "Officially" get mine lol. Im about 17 hrs and 3 minutes form my appt.
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i'm so excited, wish I had an extra battery though, it'd be nice
8hrs 15min till i get mine!
Gotta say this thing blows my old Moment's battery out of the water... 4.5 hours hard and heavy use... 60% left - no 4G coverage area (but it was left on by accident - ooops) and no video watching, but heavy text, email, and facebook/twitter activity.
I ordered the extended slim battery from seidio.com. 1750 vs 1500. Should give a bit more in the long run.
Its been decent for me though. Just dont jack up your brightness, keep it on auto.
Wifi kills my battery. The signal never settles even though the coverage should be good all over my house.
You want to go into advanced wifi settings and change WiFi sleep policy to never otherwise your phone will shut off WiFi after 15 mins of screen being off and you'll be using 3g which will use a lot more battery.
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You want to go into advanced wifi settings and change WiFi sleep policy to never otherwise your phone will shut off WiFi after 15 mins of screen being off and you'll be using 3g which will use a lot more battery.
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Its already set to never.
Mybattery was pretty terrible. Lose 10% per 40 minutes on standby mode alone. After messing around with it for a while I discovered the culprit was the location services. I turned them off and now I lose about 2% per hour on standby.
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Mybattery was pretty terrible. Lose 10% per 40 minutes on standby mode alone. After messing around with it for a while I discovered the culprit was the location services. I turned them off and now I lose about 2% per hour on standby.
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I'm curious, how exactly do you go about turning off the location services? Unless it's included with the GPS tab of the settings, I haven't been able to find such an option on my brother's Hero.
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I'm curious, how exactly do you go about turning off the location services? Unless it's included with the GPS tab of the settings, I haven't been able to find such an option on my brother's Hero.
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It's under settings , location and then location setting. This does not disable the 911 location which is good.
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Be careful with these 3rd Party batteries. Some may work, others may not.
Generally I wouldn't use a cheap high capacity battery, you cannot be certain of their manufacturing process or reliability. I would recommend buying an additional "Official" HTC battery. I keep a spare, wrapped in cling-film, in my car.
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Generally I wouldn't use a cheap high capacity battery, you cannot be certain of their manufacturing process or reliability. I would recommend buying an additional "Official" HTC battery. I keep a spare, wrapped in cling-film, in my car.
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i wouldnt even trust the "official" ones, i have seen fake nokia batteries where the hologram has been counterfeit, and i would bet that happens with alot of "official" batteries...
I wouldn't buy anything "Official" from eBay anyway. Find an approved HTC re-seller and Robert's your fathers brother.
andyharney said:
I wouldn't buy anything "Official" from eBay anyway. Find an approved HTC re-seller and Robert's your fathers brother.
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Thanks for reply, but I allready contact HTC and they said can give me just same baterry 1230 mA, I don`t now, maybe in a future they will be realised another baterry better than this one which came in box with device
Haveyou got Juice Defender installed?
Here's my tale...
I got my DHD last Saturday, having spent 2 years in the company of a reliable and juice-frugal TouchHD. What a shock the DHD was! I set it up to do the same things the THD did (push Exchange server, 4 other email accounts syncing every 10 minutes, FB, etc), and I found a full battery lasted 5 hours. After tweaking it to within an inch of its life, including making exchange only look for new mail every 30 mins, it was only marginally better.
I called HTC UK support on Thursday and described the issues. I had until this Saturday (yesterday) to decide if I was keeping the phone, and despite loving its features, design, etc, I just could not live with a battery which failed to last a full day without being tethered to a charger.
The chap I spoke to at HTC checked the incident logs and NO-ONE HAS REPORTED CRAP BATTERY LIFE OFFICIALLY TO HTC!!! I found that amazing, but I guess most folks would rather ***** on here about it than tell someone who really needs to hear it. ;-) Anyway, he systematically went through everything I needed to do with the phone so that he understood what kind of user I was, and then as an afterthought said, "I have a great little app on my phone which manages the services I'm not using and switches them off", so I asked him to tell me more... "Well, I'm not really supposed to push non-HTC apps", he said, "but if you squeeze and orange, you get...?" and then "...and in a football team you have strikers, midfielders, and ....?"
Juice Defender, says I. Yep, he says.
So, here I am, 3 days later, and this app has revolutionised the phone for me. I still have push email on, but juice defender just turns on 3G for 1 minute every 15 minutes and runs all the updates (5 mail accounts, FB update, exchange sync, etc). I put JD on a fully charged phone at 1pm on thursday, never charged it again, and went to bed with over 40% juice left. Right now, I've been up since 8amwhen the phone was unplugged, and its nearly 11am now, and I've been on ebay for 20 mins, played a pool game for 20 mins, checked my emails 3 times, and installed 2 apps via AppBrain, and I still have 87% battery. Without JD in, I'm convinced that would be down to about 25%.
Works like a dream for me, and it doesnt feel as though I'm sacrificing anything to achieve this great battery life. If I want to use the internet browser it just overrides JD, until I close the browser. Perfect!
Worth a try for anyone struggling with battery, and it certainly works for me. It also has a little widget which displays how "big" your battery is. Mine now thinks its 1.83 times the size of the battery I really have (which equates to having a battery of about 2250mAh!!!).
RTR
If you like JD, look for Ultimate Juice. It's from the same dev as JD.
It allows further battery tweaks, CPU scaling, location based data to name a few. Its a nice addition to JD.
andyharney said:
If you like JD, look for Ultimate Juice. It's from the same dev as JD.
It allows further battery tweaks, CPU scaling, location based data to name a few. Its a nice addition to JD.
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Thanks Andy, I'll do that. Already passed the gospel according to JD on to another DHD owner at work (fracking copycat, if you ask me!) and a pal with a normal (now officially renamed "crappy" to my pal's face ) Desire, and it is doing the business for them too.
I forgot to mention, that people trying JD may need to set it up as an exception if they also use an auto task killer, or it may get killed as another process the user forgets to close.
No problem, you sure you need a task killer?
Android 2.2 does a very good job at handling tasks/apps. Plus its not like we're going to run out of RAM anytime soon.
No, I dont have a task killer, but the default android Task Manager (installed on my DHD as standard) has an exceptions list, so I make sure anything I dont want Android to kill is added to that. Belt and braces stop the girls seeing your kn*b until you want them to, as my Grandad used to say.
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Haveyou got Juice Defender installed?
Here's my tale...
I got my DHD last Saturday, having spent 2 years in the company of a reliable and juice-frugal TouchHD. What a shock the DHD was! I set it up to do the same things the THD did (push Exchange server, 4 other email accounts syncing every 10 minutes, FB, etc), and I found a full battery lasted 5 hours. After tweaking it to within an inch of its life, including making exchange only look for new mail every 30 mins, it was only marginally better.
I called HTC UK support on Thursday and described the issues. I had until this Saturday (yesterday) to decide if I was keeping the phone, and despite loving its features, design, etc, I just could not live with a battery which failed to last a full day without being tethered to a charger.
The chap I spoke to at HTC checked the incident logs and NO-ONE HAS REPORTED CRAP BATTERY LIFE OFFICIALLY TO HTC!!! I found that amazing, but I guess most folks would rather ***** on here about it than tell someone who really needs to hear it. ;-) Anyway, he systematically went through everything I needed to do with the phone so that he understood what kind of user I was, and then as an afterthought said, "I have a great little app on my phone which manages the services I'm not using and switches them off", so I asked him to tell me more... "Well, I'm not really supposed to push non-HTC apps", he said, "but if you squeeze and orange, you get...?" and then "...and in a football team you have strikers, midfielders, and ....?"
Juice Defender, says I. Yep, he says.
So, here I am, 3 days later, and this app has revolutionised the phone for me. I still have push email on, but juice defender just turns on 3G for 1 minute every 15 minutes and runs all the updates (5 mail accounts, FB update, exchange sync, etc). I put JD on a fully charged phone at 1pm on thursday, never charged it again, and went to bed with over 40% juice left. Right now, I've been up since 8amwhen the phone was unplugged, and its nearly 11am now, and I've been on ebay for 20 mins, played a pool game for 20 mins, checked my emails 3 times, and installed 2 apps via AppBrain, and I still have 87% battery. Without JD in, I'm convinced that would be down to about 25%.
Works like a dream for me, and it doesnt feel as though I'm sacrificing anything to achieve this great battery life. If I want to use the internet browser it just overrides JD, until I close the browser. Perfect!
Worth a try for anyone struggling with battery, and it certainly works for me. It also has a little widget which displays how "big" your battery is. Mine now thinks its 1.83 times the size of the battery I really have (which equates to having a battery of about 2250mAh!!!).
RTR
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Thanx for reply, But I don`t now how setup the JD, at the moment I`m using task killer, but if I install JD I still need the task killer or not????(sorry for my English)
No, you don't 'need' the task killer as 2.2 manages background processes automatically. All JD does is shut down high drain services when you have your screen locked, rather than let them eat your battery away. Give it a go. You can easily install it if you find it does nothing for you.
Good luck
RTR
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No, you don't 'need' the task killer as 2.2 manages background processes automatically. All JD does is shut down high drain services when you have your screen locked, rather than let them eat your battery away. Give it a go. You can easily install it if you find it does nothing for you.
Good luck
RTR
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Thanx, much apreciate!!!!!
Im allsaw thinking about these ebay batterys!
There are 1500 and 1600!
Any one who have tried them?
mugen make the best batteries, ive been buying them for all my devices for years
http://www.mugenpowerbatteries.com/?gclid=CP30lrO7tKYCFYUe4Qoden-FHA
I am using Yoobao 1200mah battery, as good as original...I think we all just have to accept that big screen & slim phones won't have a good battery life. Just get a spare battery & a portable charger, and you will be set for a day.
I have tried JD Ultimate last version and it sucks my battery juice. I had to get rid off of it. Looks like some changes were done since the previous version. Previous version worked well for me.
I have a 1600 and it works great for me, on 4 bucks.
http://cgi.ebay.com/1600mAh-Standar...597794?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3f04ed4362
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Im allsaw thinking about these ebay batterys!
There are 1500 and 1600!
Any one who have tried them?
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I have a 1600 and it works great for me, on 4 bucks.
http://cgi.ebay.com/1600mAh-Standard...item3f04ed4362
would like to know something about this aswell
This should really help your screen on time note 20 ultra
7 hours should be the minimum out of the box for a very expensive flagship handset.
I have tweaked pretty much everything and still get around 5.
Emailed Samsung today for a return. Useless handset.
kradcliffe said:
7 hours should be the minimum out of the box for a very expensive flagship handset.
I have tweaked pretty much everything and still get around 5.
Emailed Samsung today for a return. Useless handset.
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Ever think that maybe you've got a screen time problem? If you're on your phone for 7hrs a day it's time to put the damn device down [emoji1787]
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kkeith said:
Ever think that maybe you've got a screen time problem? If you're on your phone for 7hrs a day it's time to put the damn device down [emoji1787]
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It's not per day, it's per charge. So if you're only a moderate user 7 hours ST should give you a couple of days. My phone boots up at 7am and is dead by early evening.
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It's not per day, it's per charge. So if you're only a moderate user 7 hours ST should give you a couple of days. My phone boots up at 7am and is dead by early evening.
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My phone does 2 days easy if I'm at work. Otherwise, sure I probably have to throw it on the charger around 5ish because I've been facebooking and reading the news, I'd say it's far from useless anyways. And while I'm at work in usually using the Galaxy buds to listen to my podcasts [emoji1745]
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kradcliffe said:
7 hours should be the minimum out of the box for a very expensive flagship handset.
I have tweaked pretty much everything and still get around 5.
Emailed Samsung today for a return. Useless handset.
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It's kind of weird how a lot of people on Exynos versions are getting seriously bad battery life.. The other day I asked my daughter to watch all of her shows and stuff on YouTube on my Note 20 Ultra and asked her not to put it on the charger for any reason because I wanted to see what kind of screen on time I could get and I'm seriously getting close to 15 hours of screen on time and I am posting pictures below so people don't think I'm full of it.. At 24 percent battery life left it said I still had a little over 4 hours left and the total screen on time was 10 hours 37 minutes so if she had stayed awake for another few hours it would have been around 14/15 hours without a single charge!
I stopped worrying about screen on time 3 devices ago. Just use your phone normally as a normal person.
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Brava27 said:
I stopped worrying about screen on time 3 devices ago. Just use your phone normally as a normal person.
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That's easy for you to say but some of us have to work and we can't be near an outlet all the time and we need to know exactly how much time we have available for doing important things.. Also, people who worry about their battery life doesn't make them "abnormal" like you're low key saying (Just use your phone normally as a normal person.")... It's great and all that you don't care about your battery life but this website is for help and other things so if you're not going to offer any solutions or anything of value then maybe you shouldn't say anything!
The main issue is that most of us (some long time Note users) are buing the phone because it is considered a powerhorse phone and advertised with a battery that "lasts a day". Most of us are using it like a normal person, that is one that use the phone in his/her daily tasks from browsing to mails, chats, watching videos or shooting photos or editing documents. Because THAT'S why we bought a Note and not a...dunno iPhone for ex.
And seeing that battery isn't in fact lasting a whole day on a 1300 phone we're "a bit" disappointed (and I was extremely polite saing that)
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That's easy for you to say but some of us have to work and we can't be near an outlet all the time and we need to know exactly how much time we have available for doing important things.. Also, people who worry about their battery life doesn't make them "abnormal" like you're low key saying (Just use your phone normally as a normal person.")... It's great and all that you don't care about your battery life but this website is for help and other things so if you're not going to offer any solutions or anything of value then maybe you shouldn't say anything!
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TL;DR?
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Seems Samsung is catching some heat over it's two chipset variants... again.
They need to stop doing this two chipset crap... Samsung is more fragmented than an old lady's Vista desktop.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/sam...65-plus-exynos-benchmark-performance_id126674
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Ever think that maybe you've got a screen time problem? If you're on your phone for 7hrs a day it's time to put the damn device down [emoji1787]
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Nice move, pay 1300 bucks for a smartphone and don't use because you want it's ****ty battery to last...
Still, the battery drain will destroy your battery, specially on exynos version
If you're on your phone for 7hrs a day and most people average 8hrs at work (obviously you use your phone at work) that leaves you 9hrs plus an hr or 2 (because your using your phone at work a bit) left to get home, cook, eat dinner, cleanup and sleep, I'd say your wasting a lot of your life. At this point the damn batteries have gotten good enough I'd say [emoji1787]
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letus.mors said:
Nice move, pay 1300 bucks for a smartphone and don't use because you want it's ****ty battery to last...
Still, the battery drain will destroy your battery, specially on exynos version
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The Exynos 20 U is far faster than my 10+ with better ram too.
My 10+ was running hotter than the 1 ton deep fryer on the USS Missouri at one point.
It will take some time but you can get it running cool.
Nominal idle current should be about an average of 150-200 ma. Otherwise something(s) is dragging it down.
Get PD MDM and proceed... you will need to develop a good level of proficiency before you see lasting results.
*Bah-ha-ha-ha*, excuse me, I meant to say fun times are ahead
One reason I refuse to migrate to Q is I put some serious time into this system to get it optimized.
This 10+ was a real wanker... sure the 20 U and Q will be "better".