[Q]Does class 6 SD card improve freezing - HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera

So I've done the regedit deletion for the gsensor.dll but still encountering random freezes. They last about a minute and aren't breaking where I have to reboot but still annoying. Using a froyosense build.
I am using my stock class 2 SD card. I remember reading a few threads that the class 2 would cause freezing on games, even the game demos that came with the hd2.
Will moving to class 6 help the freezing? Any thoughts?
edit: Solved my own issue. Using G sensor lite or changing the g sensor in kernel to off will stop freezing. Class 2 card runs perfectly. Probably a class 6 would improve video/music but thats true of winmo also. Maybe if someone finds my post with the same question this will help.

no i bought a class 6 8 gig , and the only difference i really se is booting android faster and maybe a little better game play

Using a class 6 sandisk and stock class 2 card and I can def say there is a big improvement in stability and performance with my class 6 card. But it is only a 4 gig card.:-(

I am trying to use the 16 gig that came with the phone. It has major issues. The 1 gig card I have works well enough, but with some builds, it's not even enough space! This sucks. How can I even tell what class of card I have? I may buy a 2 gig card because I don't load music and stuff.
EDIT: I figured it out. I see this 16g card has the "2" on it for class 2. Lame.

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[Q]SD card calss - is it so important?

Ok, a bit noobish question, but i have to ask :
Is sd card class important for speed, performace, and everything when running android on hd2 ?
I have SanDisc 8 gb SDHC class 2 ( ) sd card atm.. it bugs sometimes ( slow wake up, etc... slow dls.. ) but i can live with it..
But ive heard that sd card class is playing major role in performance and stability and other stuff..
So im asking you, should i buy class 6 ( hard to find in Belgrade, Serbia) or class 4... Is it going to be better than this with class 2 ?
Thanks in advance ...
Sorry for bothering
I use a class 4 32gb card and it works fine. The 16gb card class 2 my HD2 came with also worked fine.
I honestly do not see any difference between using my Class 2 16gb, my class 4 8gb or my class 6 8gb...when it comes to wake up times and system speed...the differences are mearly milliseconds
Where I do see is difference is when adding media to the SDcard (music and movies)...Files that take 3-4 minutes to load on my class 6 can often times take 15 minutes or longer to load onto my class 2.
...my primary card I use is my class 2 16gb and it does not bother me one bit.
agentaaron said:
I honestly do not see any difference between using my Class 2 16gb, my class 4 8gb or my class 6 8gb...when it comes to wake up times and system speed...the differences are mearly milliseconds
Where I do see is difference is when adding media to the SDcard (music and movies)...Files that take 3-4 minutes to load on my class 6 can often times take 15 minutes or longer to load onto my class 2.
...my primary card I use is my class 2 16gb and it does not bother me one bit.
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theres not much difference,the only difference ive noticed between my class 4 8gb and class 6 8gb is boot up times are a bit more faster with the class 6,thats about it really
I have 4GB sandisk class 2 and everything works fast and great. with MDJ_FroYo_HD_v._4.3_MDJ_S7.5HD.
Pozdrav iz rajvosa.

[Q] Cass 10 SD cards causing BSoD and Wake Delay

This is an observation across several different builds with Hastrain 8.5.x and MDJ 7-8 kernels:
ScanDisk Class 2 MicroSD -- runs smooth without any problems
Any Class 10 MicroSD that i have tried -- frequent wake from sleep screen delays and occaionals BSoD
I have tried MDG Revolution 1.7, CoreDroid, Topia Series with Hastrain 8.5.x and MDJ 7-8 kernels.
The problem with Class 10 microSD cards is consistent and dissapears instantly after switching back to a Class 2 microSD.
I am not sure why, perhapps it has something to do with power consumption.
It would be great is Hastrain or MDJ could look into this problem.
Any feedback would be appreciated!
Thanks
That's not your card. That happens to all class cards on all builds. Some people say its fixed but that is straight BS. Like you, I wish it was fixed once and for all.
Maybe your class 10 card is error. Use flash card software to test it (in reading/writing testing).
I think i have found the problem. When i come back
From standby the wlan stopped and then comes back.
I tested it i deactivated wlan and test it no freezes when
Wlan is activated it freezes.
Is the class 10 also a sandisk card?
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I have one Kingmax class 10 16G and one Toshiba class 2 16G. I got the same problem only when using the class 10 ,especially on the phone call page.
mkutsen said:
This is an observation across several different builds with Hastrain 8.5.x and MDJ 7-8 kernels:
ScanDisk Class 2 MicroSD -- runs smooth without any problems
Any Class 10 MicroSD that i have tried -- frequent wake from sleep screen delays and occaionals BSoD
I have tried MDG Revolution 1.7, CoreDroid, Topia Series with Hastrain 8.5.x and MDJ 7-8 kernels.
The problem with Class 10 microSD cards is consistent and dissapears instantly after switching back to a Class 2 microSD.
I am not sure why, perhapps it has something to do with power consumption.
It would be great is Hastrain or MDJ could look into this problem.
Any feedback would be appreciated!
Thanks
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I have the same problem like you. Everytime I tried to use my wintec calss 10 sd card for the android, the system will lag and have BSoD. When it wake up from sleep mode, it is very laggy. So I think the HD2 Android does not support using the Calss 10 Card.
PS. I tried the class 10 in window Vista but it doesn't have any problem. Therefore, I am sure it's not the card problem.
Perform a full disk check and also a benchmark.
Compare it to your Class 2 card.
Then proceed to copy 2 gig of data to it. If it is class 10 it should sustain 10MB/sec for the entire copy. If not you may see 10 at the start but then it slowly gets slower. Also the card will get very hot.
Its starting to get very difficult to get genuine cards. I have a number of Class 10's. One from ebay and another 2 from local stores. All are fakes.
I have a class 4 which is the best I have got so far. Can copy GB's to it and it stays constant for the whole copy. Others start of good but 1/2 way the card is really hot and only getting 50kb/sec
In my experience, only 3 card brands work, sandisk, samsung and toshiba. Kingmax, wintec and patriot didn't. I guess the class didn't matter.
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mattfmartin said:
That's not your card. That happens to all class cards on all builds. Some people say its fixed but that is straight BS. Like you, I wish it was fixed once and for all.
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Its device-dependent.
My old HD2 had loads of lag when "waking up" but since I broke it and got a new one, I have had almost no wake-up lag. The longest I ever have to wait for the screen to come on is 2-3 seconds, and usually its less.
Perhaps different microSD cards exacerbate the problem, but the underlying problem is in your HD2 itself. I use a Class 6 card myself.
Been using a class 10 card ever since I got my HD2 in the summer. Works fine here..
It's a Kingston class 10 SD, dunno if that helps
jose makalolot said:
Is the class 10 also a sandisk card?
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I have 3 sdcards
Sandisk 8GB Class 6 (write ca. 7mb/s) freezing
Sandisk 8GB Class 4 (write ca. 5mb/s) freezing
Sandisk 8GB Class 2 (write ca. 2.5mb/s) testing know !!! I give in few hours feedback.
I also experience slow wake ups with both of my class 6 cards as compared to my class 2 16 gig. On my class 2, wake up is instant. On my class 6 cards (4gig and 8gig), wake time is approximately 3 to 5 seconds. I really wish someone could figure this out because of the difference in file transfer speeds; my class 2 is almost unbearable.
It would be interesting if you could all try using this build over here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870518
Darkstone's build puts everything into RAM so that your SD card shouldn't matter. Why don't you report back and tell us if that fixes your crashing/sleep problems?
nimsim said:
Been using a class 10 card ever since I got my HD2 in the summer. Works fine here..
It's a Kingston class 10 SD, dunno if that helps
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I think the key factor is to stay with quality name brand cards. My class 2 is Sandisk and my class 6 4/8gig are off brand. I'm going to try different format settings and see what I can come up with. I post back if I find anything significant.
pkchips said:
Its device-dependent.
My old HD2 had loads of lag when "waking up" but since I broke it and got a new one, I have had almost no wake-up lag. The longest I ever have to wait for the screen to come on is 2-3 seconds, and usually its less.
Perhaps different microSD cards exacerbate the problem, but the underlying problem is in your HD2 itself. I use a Class 6 card myself.
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I think you are all forgetting my post.
The SAME sd card can be fast in one HD2 and crap in another HD2.
hi
probably your sd card is abnormal cause some of the kingston and other cards are made with errors,i had a similar sd card from kingston i dont know whatever i did with it formatted it multiple times it never booted an
android build,i booted in ubuntu and used disk utility it had a lot of errors then googled and came to find out that there were batches of kingston cards with similar errors coz 1 tech support guy in an fabrication organisation found it it and they sent all the batch of their cards to kingston for replacement which kingston did,i am using the card in garmin gps as storage i think these error cards see the batch number and see other original cards they are slightly different with their numbers as well as letters you can google it and find it out.thats why be careful from where you buy it.
try using disk utility in ubuntu you may find out what is wrong with it call the company and try to replace it
Fake cards
What I was alluding to in my previous post was all the name brand cards are suffering have fakes. Right down to holograms etc on the boxes.
Even retailers are getting caught out as the shipments are getting hijacked on the way and good cards are being swapped for fakes.
Very simply you can take a class 2 card and change the clock to run at high speed. Runs great for the few first seconds however quickly overheats and starts to fail with write errors etc.
I have "Genuine" Sandisk and Kingston cards here. Both bench great but when copying a large amount of data to it it gets hotter and hotter. Eventually crawling at ridiculous speeds. Keep pushing it and I start getting write errors.
Finally picked up a genuine Kingston. Only a class 4 but after 4GB sustained writes it is still only warm and pushing 4.1mb/sec.
Compared to my Sandisk (With hologram) Class 8 which can only do 200kb/sec after 1GB of data. Eventually will fail before 2gb ram.
Yanardag said:
I have 3 sdcards
Sandisk 8GB Class 6 (write ca. 7mb/s) freezing
Sandisk 8GB Class 4 (write ca. 5mb/s) freezing
Sandisk 8GB Class 2 (write ca. 2.5mb/s) testing know !!! I give in few hours feedback.
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Ok i have tested the Class 2 card. It freezes too.
I find the freezing comes after ~10min. Before 10min.
Is nothing from this cards freez the lockscreen.
I think wlan is major problem. With wlan off is nothing freezing,
Mobile data i have not tested.
wlan = wifi ?

[Q] Which sd card is better?

So Ive been using the 16gb Class 2 sd card that came with my HD2 for WP7 and I havent really had any problems with it. Occasionally it reboots for no reason, but aside from that, its perfect. However, my friend just gave me his 4gb Class 4 card. Should I keep using the 16gb or reset my phone with the faster 4gb?
simple test, all sd cards work differently
my Nokia 4GB Class 6 is better than may Sandisk 16GB Class 2
Xbox Live Installation: ( only the installation without download )
Nokia 4GB Class 6: 1:23 minutes
Sandisk 16GB Class 2: 9:41 minutes
peace warhead said:
So Ive been using the 16gb Class 2 sd card that came with my HD2 for WP7 and I havent really had any problems with it. Occasionally it reboots for no reason, but aside from that, its perfect. However, my friend just gave me his 4gb Class 4 card. Should I keep using the 16gb or reset my phone with the faster 4gb?
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Class 2 cards usually work better for wp7. Actually class means nothing when it comes to wp7... you want good random access speed for wp7 to run smooth. Many times, the tricks that manufacturers do to their cards to get higher sequential write speeds will actually reduce the random access speed. They don't keep the random access speed consistent on any of their cards as that speed isn't rated, so even cards of the same brand and class can differ greatly from batch to batch. A card made one day may run wp7 well while the same card made a month later may not. So far it seems class 2 sandisk are the most consistent in keeping good random access speed, so if you are going for a card for wp7, go for class 2 sandisk with model numbers ending in A11M. If you already have a card that works well, no reason to switch unless you want to change the size, because there's no way to guarantee a card will work well until it's tested.

[Q] SD card class importance?

Hi I noticed in the recent wp7 roms that is is recommended to have atleast
class 6 sd card. Why has this increased? The last 6 months I have been using a 16gb class 2 & and my wp7 roms have been working fine. The last rom I used was pdaimate v1 and it ran flawlessly. Now I invested in a 32gb class 4 card & was hoping to install the latest pdaimate roms with multi fix. Question is how will my new card fare in performance compared to a class 6?
Marcus2283 said:
Hi I noticed in the recent wp7 roms that is is recommended to have atleast
class 6 sd card. Why has this increased? The last 6 months I have been using a 16gb class 2 & and my wp7 roms have been working fine. The last rom I used was pdaimate v1 and it ran flawlessly. Now I invested in a 32gb class 4 card & was hoping to install the latest pdaimate roms with multi fix. Question is how will my new card fare in performance compared to a class 6?
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Its still random access speeds that are important, people saying class 6 is probably just what they have working, but its a provable fact cards with a slower random R/W, cards do not work, tied to that, many (but not all!) Class 6+ cards use a type of prefetching to speed up their sequential speeds, that can slow down random speeds, so sometimes ( but not always!) less than class 6 is better.
Agreed! I have 2 cards performing very different... 1. is a 8 gig Nokia OEM card class 4 - takes VERY long to install apps and watching videoes on youtube and such requires me to wait for the whole video to load as there will be lag otherwise. My other card is a 16 gig Sandisk class 2 - Time for installing apps is acceptable and watching videos on youtube is smooth BUT the batterylife is a lot worse than on my other card!
As you can se class can't tell you how a certain card will perform! Logic would say that the card with the higher class should load faster but on the other hand have poor batterylife - wrong in my case!
So what is the solution you might ask? Trial and error my friend - trial and error That's as simple as I can put it.
/Anders
Well after loong night of installing wp7 and 4 android builds on my new 32gb class 4 card, everything went smoothly. All builds fly but unfortunatly bad battery life remains..

Class 6 micro sd card support

I want to know about 16GB class 6 Samsung micro sd card support for defy as i am going to buy it. If anybody is using it or any other class 6 sd card please post about its speed, stability, hd video playback and other issues if any.
Take a look here
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1159877
Motorola Defy CM7 RC 1.5 OC 1GHz
16GB Class 6 is the best possible choice for defy..!
I use a 16GB Class 4..! couldnt get Class 6 when i needed it..!
buy 16GB Class 6..! It works well..!
Does the brand of the SD card matters for the compability?
I have a 16gb 6class Samsung and i can say that it is ok 8.5mb write and18mb read with a 3mb cache set in android.
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AeroFlip said:
Does the brand of the SD card matters for the compability?
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I don't know. But one of my friend using class 4 transcend sd card and he can play 720p videos. While i can't using Sandisc class 4.
Thanks bdw. I purchased it and it's working fine. Write speed is 9mbps and reading at 11-13mbps
Will try diff cache value.
Class 6 gives good performance. Having no problems since 3 months.
I use 32GB class 10 Lexar.
No problem at all.
I've been using a class 10 16GB TOPRAM card for almost a year, with no problems.
I use a Kingston Class10 16GB since a week ago and it's working fine so far. 9.1MB/s write and 19MB/s read on 2.3.6
Thanks for starting this thread
Im going to order a class 6, 8 gig samsung card for my defy from letsbuy.com
@darshan - bro, what is you say ? how are you finding your class 6 card in defy? how about 720p playback and HD gaming?? Is there any issue with day to day usage, like with camera app and something? Does it hang? or does it goes in to READ ONLY by any chance??
Btw, Im running on stock 2.2.2 without root.
Thanking you in advance

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