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[Q] Battery went through the wash

Just want some advice really, I always keep a spare battery in my pocket, and accidently put some jeans through the wash with the battery in it! Noticed half way through, dried it off and now have it sitting in a bag of rice. There was also some green funk on the positive terminal that I wiped off.
So after a day two once it is dry, would it be safe to test it in the phone, or would it be best just to chuck it? Obviously I'd like not to have to buy a new one, but if there is a risk of damaging the phone then I'll just buy another one. So what do you think?

if its dry test it out. how else are you going to find out if its messed up or not lol

If you have a multimeter I'd check the voltages first, just because it's easy.
It's always the best to be sure before you try it on your phone.
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WarBird87 said:
if its dry test it out. how else are you going to find out if its messed up or not lol
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I would, but I'd like to know first if I could damage the phone before testing it out, as not worth risking the phone for the sake of a £15 battery.
Sh4d0w940 said:
If you have a multimeter I'd check the voltages first, just because it's easy.
It's always the best to be sure before you try it on your phone.
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That's a good idea, i know my flat mate has one, but he's away right now and don't really know how to use it, any suggestions on how it should be set up and what the expected output should be? It's one of the newer digital ones with the display up top and a large dial below. Thanks

There should be some settings on the meter. You want DC and auto if its an option else you want to set it low the output of the battery should be listed on the battery itself. It should be pretty low ie 1 - 4 volts maybe. Just a guess though
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Is it worth it? There is bound to be some contaminants inside the battery now, and worst case scenario it's going to ruin your £400 phone when it shorts out/blows up/voltage spikes.
Just get rid of the battery to a recycling place it, and buy a new one. You'll be sorry otherwise.

Did that about a week ago. My backup/password manager Blackberry Pearl died but my spare G2 battery still works fine.
But like anything, results may very.
I had everything on that pearl lost a lot of passwords!!!
Goodluck.
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Try to charge it if you have on of those dock type charger. I'd be more worried if it went through a full wash/dry cycle. Being submerged in warm soapy water OTOH is nothing to worry about. Its a sealed battery. However it did likely completely discharge itself, quickly. The fast discharge may have over heated it.
Do you wash your jeans cold, warm, or hot?

Phone power shuts off when tapped or bumped.

I just noticed a moment ago that when I tap my phone hard enough it turns off. For example sliding the kb open or setting it down on a table hard enough. I have to be real gentle with it now. And I have never been very rough with it its in great condition. I dropped it once on carpet a few months ago. But that's it. I have 2 batteries and I switch them out every other day. Could that have something to do with it? I really do not want to goto the sprint store and have the look at it because ill have to flash back to stock and deal with their lines and annoying staff. Anyone know what I can do to fix this issue?
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Is it possible that you thumped it hard enough to knock it unconscious? Just kidding, sounds like you have a short somewhere.
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screw that. flash it back to stock and take it in. i wouldnt be able to deal with that.

^^ I agree
However, take a look at your battery contacts. One of my 3 is noticeably bent "differently" but not necessarily broken than the other 2 (although it's NEVER lost contact even in a fall). Maybe it's not maintaining the tension it needs to keep the connection.

kycrop44 said:
I just noticed a moment ago that when I tap my phone hard enough it turns off. For example sliding the kb open or setting it down on a table hard enough. I have to be real gentle with it now. And I have never been very rough with it its in great condition. I dropped it once on carpet a few months ago. But that's it. I have 2 batteries and I switch them out every other day. Could that have something to do with it? I really do not want to goto the sprint store and have the look at it because ill have to flash back to stock and deal with their lines and annoying staff. Anyone know what I can do to fix this issue?
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Happens to me when I close the keyboard too hard so I put a piece of thin cardboard between the cover and battery to secure it even more and no more problem.

kennyglass123 said:
Happens to me when I close the keyboard too hard so I put a piece of thin cardboard between the cover and battery to secure it even more and no more problem.
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doesnt paper heat up the battery more? and i think the OP should place a claim on the phone (you should too). you people paid a lot for your phone and it should work (without putting cardboard)

alexnaoumi said:
doesnt paper heat up the battery more? and i think the OP should place a claim on the phone (you should too). you people paid a lot for your phone and it should work (without putting cardboard)
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your right I did pay alot for this phone and it should work properly without ghetto rigging it. It actually stopped for now idk what did it, I tried a number of things including pressing the battery in harder and that may of solved it, but I bet it does it again one day. plus I wouldnt mind having a brand new one if thats what they would do to fix it lol

That happened to me a couple times, but it was the extended batteries and thus generic cover that doesn't fit well to begin with.

alexnaoumi said:
doesnt paper heat up the battery more? and i think the OP should place a claim on the phone (you should too). you people paid a lot for your phone and it should work (without putting cardboard)
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Then don't cover the whole battery. Use a small strip runnin diagionaly and fasten it to back cover is it don't move around when u drop your phone again.
Try a little peice of paper in between the batt and the wall of batt hole.
Epoxy your battery in place.
Or u can stop abusing your phone.
Tell your phone your sorry..
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alexnaoumi said:
doesnt paper heat up the battery more? and i think the OP should place a claim on the phone (you should too). you people paid a lot for your phone and it should work (without putting cardboard)
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Not anymore than sitting on my hip. Paper is an insulator so actually would help in Florida sun. But my issue is a $21 extended battery and extended back, not stock. So a small piece of cardboard helps to keep it really tight. Also probably because I have dropped my phone a few times.

keith5039756827 said:
Then don't cover the whole battery. Use a small strip runnin diagionaly and fasten it to back cover is it don't move around when u drop your phone again.
Try a little peice of paper in between the batt and the wall of batt hole.
Epoxy your battery in place.
Or u can stop abusing your phone.
Tell your phone your sorry..
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LMAO!!!! Nice...think I will download a flowers jpg for my phone now.

My first epic did this. It's a manufacturing problem. I took it back and sprint replaced it. (I returned it the day after I bought it, though).

I have had this happen to me and all I did was flash a different rom. It seemed to be a had flash or the rom I was using. That is assuming you are rooted and running a custom rom. Give it a try. Flash something else and see if the problem goes away. Mine did.
I was on my way into the sprint store as I was restoring a different rom and after restoring i could not reproduce the power down when bumping or sliding keyboard. That's how I figured out it had to be the rom. I have not had it happen since, that was 5 months ago.

desire s turns off
Ive had my desire s for less than 2 months and ive had to leave it back for this reason. The slightest of taps to the bottom right corner and off it goes.
Estimated return time from the car phone warehouse is 1 month. whahahahah....

Mine does the same thing, bougt mine off ebay, esy fix I just took a very small piece of electrical tape, made it so its sticky on both sides and stuc it behind the battery
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I had this problem also. Mine was one of the three contacta on the phone broke. The brass contacts that touch the battery.
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kennyglass123 said:
But my issue is a $21 extended battery and extended back, not stock
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Same here! With the stock battery it works fine, but with the extended to hard of a jolt will reset it.

[Q] Glass back shattered

Having just come off the phone to my Network, I'm worried about my choice of Nexus 4. My first one I have had less than a week and this morning the back glass went ping whilst it was sitting on the sofa doing nothing, the entire back just shattered all on its own.
The Network operator advised there are issues with leaving the phone on charge for long periods and the battery overheating causing the glass to shatter. I was offered an alternate phone, but I actually like the Nexus so am giving it another go. Has anyone else experienced anything similar?
I'm used to charging my phone overnight whilst in bed as I don't feel this is excessive over charging????

This.. this is making me concerned for my phone.. I've never left it charging over night intentionally as it wears down battery health but I have forgotten with my other phones..

It's the heat, do you live in a child country, or keep the ac low? Since the glass is thick, the temperature gradient between the two sides causes expansion like in a bi metallic strip, causing it to bend, and eventually crack as strain goes beyond the critical point of elasticity. 11th grade physics
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euki69 said:
This.. this is making me concerned for my phone.. I've never left it charging over night intentionally as it wears down battery health but I have forgotten with my other phones..
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No such thing as all modern phones/batteries have circuitry built in to prevent overcharging. The phone will tell the AC adapter to stop supplying power and as such it does. You can keep devices plugged in for days without any current reaching the battery. If your phone is still charging past 100% then that's a faulty AC adapter which should be replaced.
It's -20C outside now while inside being 20C so that's a 40 degree difference and I have no issues with my phone just cracking out of no where. Glass surely will crack under drastic temp changes but definitely not that easy, especially tempered glass on (like such on cars).

shotta35 said:
No such thing as all modern phones/batteries have circuitry built in to prevent overcharging. The phone will tell the AC adapter to stop supplying power and as such it does. You can keep devices plugged in for days without any current reaching the battery. If your phone is still charging past 100% then that's a faulty AC adapter which should be replaced.
It's -20C outside now while inside being 20C so that's a 40 degree difference and I have no issues with my phone just cracking out of no where. Glass surely will crack under drastic temp changes but definitely not that easy, especially tempered glass on (like such on cars).
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I can only go by what my Network told me, I was placed on hold whilst they contacted the Nexus Team whoever they are. When he came back he stated that I had left my phone charging for too long which would have likely caused the glass to fail.
Even I was shocked when I saw the shattered glass and thought they're going to think I dropped it. But then dropping the phone with the special glass shouldn't cause it to shatter, maybe a crack or two, but as per the picture this is an all over shatter.
Maybe I just had a one off duff phone, time will tell as I've ordered a replacement as I actually love the phone itself. Had a HTC for 2 years with not a scratch as I look after my things.

Hantslad said:
I was placed on hold whilst they contacted the Nexus Team whoever they are. When he came back he stated that I had left my phone charging for too long which would have likely caused the glass to fail.
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Sorry but this is utter nonsense. If this is really what they said, then either they were winding you up for a laugh, or they didn't know what they were talking about.
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steviewevie said:
Sorry but this is utter nonsense. If this is really what they said, then either they were winding you up for a laugh, or they didn't know what they were talking about.
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Maybe they thought it was funny and were winding me up then. I guess they just replace phones for no reason?
I'm pretty sure if there were no known faults they wouldn't just offer a free exchange or an alternate phone if they thought I'd smashed the thing myself.

Mine broke by being in my pocket just the other day. It's on it's way to LG right now for possible Warranty work.

shotta35 said:
Glass surely will crack under drastic temp changes but definitely not that easy, especially tempered glass on (like such on cars).
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Its not the glass affected by temperature changes, rather the metal components and frame that are. This "can" cause glass to crack.

Did your phone have any kind of skin or protector on the back?
I have heard stories of cracking from temp changes.
I have a front and back protector and have not had any trouble with mine going from zero degrees outside to 70 inside or vice versa.

euki69 said:
This.. this is making me concerned for my phone.. I've never left it charging over night intentionally as it wears down battery health but I have forgotten with my other phones..
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Leaving it charging over night has absolutely no ill effects on the battery.
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Hantslad said:
The Network operator advised there are issues with leaving the phone on charge for long periods and the battery overheating causing the glass to shatter.
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Hmm I charge my phone during night since november and still perfect

Are you making this story up mate? I don`t believe a word of it and it sounds like troll language to me Damage like that seems to be caused by a fall (flat on it`s back) rather than a overheated battery imo. It would take a sudden 40-50 degrees Celsius increase and most probably the glas would melt rather than break. Breakage is caused by temperature differences between the inner and outer side off the glas. And you don`t have it fixed allthough they offered it too you?

Hi
It looks like a typical stress fracture of the glass.
I'm not convinced normal changes in temperature is the cause as otherwise we'd not be using glass for windows!
Charging overnight is perfectly safe and doesn't harm the battery. Lithium batteries explode if constantly charged so the charging circuitry is carefully designed to monitor the charge and stop it when the battery is full. There are also safe guards in place, which likely the red flashing LED issue is an indicator of a fail-safe being triggered.
Sometimes lithium batteries go wrong. The lithium batteries in the Nexus are not in a rigid metal can like most but a different technology that allows them to be in a soft foil packet, much like you might find food in. This means a fault can cause the battery to expand, this would deform the back, stressing the glass and breaking it. Typically with such a fault there will be heat, so 1st line support on hearing of customers finding a hot phone with a smashed back may be coming to the wrong conclusion that heat is the cause.
The only people that know the truth are LG who will find these phones winging their way back to them, and unless this is a huge problem where a recall is required, we will probably never know or be told of a confirmed cause of these "Unexplained Spontaneous Back Shattering" events or USBS, and there probably isn't one single cause anyway.
Regards
Phil

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Are you making this story up mate? I don`t believe a word of it and it sounds like troll language to me Damage like that seems to be caused by a fall (flat on it`s back) rather than a overheated battery imo. It would take a sudden 40-50 degrees Celsius increase and most probably the glas would melt rather than break. Breakage is caused by temperature differences between the inner and outer side off the glas. And you don`t have it fixed allthough they offered it too you?
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Why would I make it up? I asked the question if anyone else has had similar issues as when my replacement arrives on Tuesday, if it happens again, I would like to know if it is infact a common issue.
Had I have dropped the phone I would be asking if anyone knows how I could get it fixed. Why would anyone waste time posting a load of lies?
As it happens 3 Network have advised they are aware of over charging causing the back glass to break, although I don't see any warnings or advice over how long you should keep a phone on charge.
I fail to see how what I have stated has given you reason to think I am trolling. I am happy with the phone itself and feel it's worth another go as it's fast and to be honest is one of the best handsets I have had.

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As it happens 3 Network have advised they are aware of over charging causing the back glass to break, although I don't see any warnings or advice over how long you should keep a phone on charge.
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Sounds like 3's support staff don't know what they are taking about.
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steviewevie said:
Sounds like 3's support staff don't know what they are taking about.
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Now, this I can agree with. The reason I have given the phone a second chance is that I believe I had a duff phone. I was offered a different phone, but stuck with the Nexus as I actually love it so far.
When I contacted 3, they placed me on hold for a few minutes and came back to advise they had spoken to the Nexus Team, wether that be at 3 or Google, I have no idea. The conversation was almost accusing me of over charging, but being an average phone user I do not know what over charging is. I just plug the phone in and leave it as I always have with previous phones.
The phone itself was not in any pocket, but just sitting on the sofa when it shattered and I too find it hard to believe it just shattered by itself, but in all honesty it did! I have no reason to come on here and say otherwise.
Let's hope the replacement will give me many hours of use, I've ordered a 2 cases to ensure if I do drop it, I get some protection.

Overdose1986 said:
Hmm I charge my phone during night since november and still perfect
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I have charged overnight every night since November with no ill effects. I've used various nexus and non-nexus chargers.
I've also never used a screen protector and have had no scratches. I have a 3 quid S tpu for the back and sides.
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I've never not charged a phone all night. If I had to wake up at 1 or 2 in the morning to unplug this phone I would sell it today, that is ridiculous. I can't believe that LG or any company would think that this would be acceptable in 2013. Maybe back in the stone age but not today. With that being said, my phone is still in perfect condition with a protector on the front and back. The only thing that drives me crazy is the creakiness of the phone. I hope this crap gets straightened out.
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[Q] Wet my phone - not starting - looking for repair opinions

I walked into the ocean (salt) water with my phone about 4 days ago.
I know, I know. Believe me, I've called myself many names along the line of stupid already.
I've been searching the net for any tips or ideas on what I should do.
Situation:
It was submerged in water for about 10 seconds.
Then removed, removed battery and left it to dry in the summer heat. (I was at a beach far away with no rice or silicon nearby).
24 hrs later I inserted my wife's S4 battery into the device and the light indicator began lighting up several colors unsteadily. Mostly Red.
I removed the battery without attempting to turn on the phone, since this was not normal behavior.
2 days later, once I had access to a bag of rice, I put the phone in rice and have left it there since. I tried this morning (after 24 hrs in rice) and the indicator light turns on still, a steady red light.
I'm thinking the phone wont magically work again. But perhaps it might still be worth having a cell phone repair guy have a try.
Anyone know what the red light indicator light means?
Im thinking the phone's main components that would be possibly permanently damaged are:
- screen
- memory
- cpu
- motherboard
Any advice on the matter would be appreciated.
Im crossing my fingers I dont have to spend 600$ for a new phone.

Insurance. Warranty.
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sstphoenix said:
I walked into the ocean (salt) water with my phone about 4 days ago.
I know, I know. Believe me, I've called myself many names along the line of stupid already.
I've been searching the net for any tips or ideas on what I should do.
Situation:
It was submerged in water for about 10 seconds.
Then removed, removed battery and left it to dry in the summer heat. (I was at a beach far away with no rice or silicon nearby).
24 hrs later I inserted my wife's S4 battery into the device and the light indicator began lighting up several colors unsteadily. Mostly Red.
I removed the battery without attempting to turn on the phone, since this was not normal behavior.
2 days later, once I had access to a bag of rice, I put the phone in rice and have left it there since. I tried this morning (after 24 hrs in rice) and the indicator light turns on still, a steady red light.
I'm thinking the phone wont magically work again. But perhaps it might still be worth having a cell phone repair guy have a try.
Anyone know what the red light indicator light means?
Im thinking the phone's main components that would be possibly permanently damaged are:
- screen
- memory
- cpu
- motherboard
Any advice on the matter would be appreciated.
Im crossing my fingers I dont have to spend 600$ for a new phone.
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You what i did on my wet Infuse... After some 2-3 day later i use hair dryer for some 10-15 min and my phone worked again. I sold it as is two days later but person who i sold said phone is working ok.

Not a lot can be done for it unless you were exceptionally lucky. Energized circuits don't take kindly to water dispersing their energy into every other circuit in the phone. Often even after placing a phone in rice or silica immediately afterwards still results in a crappy phone eventually. Like the fella said, use that insurance.
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k3rn3lkill3r said:
Not a lot can be done for it unless you were exceptionally lucky. Energized circuits don't take kindly to water dispersing their energy into every other circuit in the phone. Often even after placing a phone in rice or silica immediately afterwards still results in a crappy phone eventually. Like the fella said, use that insurance.
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When you guys mention "use your insurance" do you mean home insurance?

Use whatever insurance you have. Most people I've talked to on here got something through square trade or best buy, maybe you used a credit card that gives you a warranty for 90 days, maybe you can use home insurance. It depends on your policy. I personally always buy insurance on a new phone (used to get the crappy att insurance, now I have the square trade one with only 100 dollar deductible, but no loss or theft included). It's up to you whether it's worth it, if you can afford to part with 600 bucks in the event of an emergency, may not be worth it to you to pay extra for insurance.
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youtube tutorial
I have successfully repaired water damage on my handset. When I took apart my S2 last year I followed a YouTube tutorial to get it all apart and back together. Here is an excellent link for your S4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm4f2XjQLAM
I expect you will find lots of white powder type of deposits. All I did was carry all the little pieces and circuit boards to the sink and used a toothbrush under the running tap water and scrubbed it all clean. Then I submerged all the pieces and parts in rice over night. It started working again when I put it all back together the next day.

You should have let it dry a week at least
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Notice to T-Mobile jump users (water sensor on battery)

I thought this might be useful for anyone who wants to trade their phone in the future using the jump program.
I am sure many of you don't realize but the batteries actually have a moisture indicator on the top of the battery by the pins (it's a white circle).
T-Mobile will not honor a jump if this sensor is tripped (the indicator turns pink/purple). I was lucky and the guy I was dealing with told me if I had another battery that didn't have the sensor tripped I could still trade it in. Luckily I got the extra battery when I bought my v10.
I am pretty sure normally they would not allow this and I just got a nice employee but for those of you looking to jump in the future make sure the circle is white to avoid any problems in the future.
The funny thing about this situation is the phone had never been exposed to water and I actually think it got triggered when I had the spare battery in my back packet and somehow got water on the back of my pants. This makes me wonder if that's why the v20 charge kit includes a protective case for the spare battery.
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evo4g63t said:
I thought this might be useful for anyone who wants to trade their phone in the future using the jump program.
I am sure many of you don't realize but the batteries actually have a moisture indicator on the top of the battery by the pins (it's a white circle).
T-Mobile will not honor a jump if this sensor is tripped (the indicator turns pink/purple). I was lucky and the guy I was dealing with told me if I had another battery that didn't have the sensor tripped I could still trade it in. Luckily I got the extra battery when I bought my v10.
I am pretty sure normally they would not allow this and I just got a nice employee but for those of you looking to jump in the future make sure the circle is white to avoid any problems in the future.
The funny thing about this situation is the phone had never been exposed to water and I actually think it got triggered when I had the spare battery in my back packet and somehow got water on the back of my pants. This makes me wonder if that's why the v20 charge kit includes a protective case for the spare battery.
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What did you jump to?

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What did you jump to?
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I went from the v10 to v20, just noticed the v20 has the same indicator. Figured I'd let people know.
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evo4g63t said:
I went from the v10 to v20, just noticed the v20 has the same indicator. Figured I'd let people know.
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its litmus paper 99% of phones have them.. theres more then that one on the phone tho, its just the att rep being incompetent.
The indicator is not proof of damage but a indicator for a rep to look further for damages especially liquid.
In my stores, we would open your phone infront of you and show you the corosion and damage from liquid if any, if not we would continue as normal.
Look above your SD card slot, theres one on the back housing near the bottom right of camera, and i dont doubt there is another 2 more of them on the inside near charger and near the top also... If i disasemble my phone soon ill take photos of the other areas they have them..
but yeah... Its supposed to just be a tool for the rep to know to look harder, the battery can change colors from a sweaty hand touching that spot, its just litmus paper.

Team DevDigitel said:
its litmus paper 99% of phones have them.. theres more then that one on the phone tho, its just the att rep being incompetent.
The indicator is not proof of damage but a indicator for a rep to look further for damages especially liquid.
In my stores, we would open your phone infront of you and show you the corosion and damage from liquid if any, if not we would continue as normal.
Look above your SD card slot, theres one on the back housing near the bottom right of camera, and i dont doubt there is another 2 more of them on the inside near charger and near the top also... If i disasemble my phone soon ill take photos of the other areas they have them..
but yeah... Its supposed to just be a tool for the rep to know to look harder, the battery can change colors from a sweaty hand touching that spot, its just litmus paper.
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Interesting information thanks! I am on T-Mobile.
When I jumped they only looked at the battery one I suppose they didn't want to spend time to look at the other indicators and the battery was the easiest one to look for. Hell my rep didn't even turn on the phone.
I find it pretty silly they come to the conclusion it's been wet based on these papers, theorically humidity could change the color right?
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My indicator on my galaxy note 4 under the battery changed color and I never got that phone wet. Very humid in Houston, TX though especially in a pocket.

@rbiter said:
My indicator on my galaxy note 4 under the battery changed color and I never got that phone wet. Very humid in Houston, TX though especially in a pocket.
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Yup. Humidity trips them most of the time. Even having the phone in the bathroom while taking a really hot shower (steam) can do it.

Thanks for the information ill have to be a little bit more careful with my phone now since i am having some minor issues with it.