[WORKING] Running Windows 7 on HD2 - HD2 General

Hello! Sorry that I'm not replied immediately, but I was busy.
First I recommend to remove all unnecessary stuff from installation iso, or download a "light" Windows.
You need basically two programs - Power ISO and HEX EDITOR NEO.
First open Iso file with Power ISO, and find winsetup.dll, which is located in folder sources. Copy Winsetup.dll and paste it to a temp folder, if you want to save the original file.
Then open winsetup.dll with HEX EDITOR NEO, find a 77 3D 07 78 01 and replace with E9 04 00 00 00.
Save the file and convert to img image.
That it - that allows you to install windows on a computers with little RAM.
After you are ready with the file, you need a QEMU Emulator for WinMo. You can find it here - http://4pda.info/news/11054/. Use google translate, if you don't read russian
More info about QEMU project - read here http://wiki.qemu.org/Main_Page
Hopefully you succeed. Although no great practical use. It is Slow and ifficult to handle small buttons, etc. - there are many shortcomings, but is made for the experiment.

Images? A video perhaps? Would be cool to see

wow
very interesting indeed, will defo be looking into later on today, thanks mitchellvink

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence...

JoonatanO said:
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence...
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If you don't believe it, try it!
He/she doesn't have to "proove" anything by producing evidence... He/she is providing clear instructions on what has to be done, so you can test yourself if it is a correct claim!

i reading something about the first selfmade Windows 7 HTC Tablet with 4,3" in this Thread, great work. going to take a look on it, sounds interesting, but some screenshots/video would be great

I really can;t believe i'm going to type this because you have all been taken for fools.
YOU CAN NOT INSTALL WINDOWS 7 FOR A PC ON A MOBILE PHONE. MODDED DLL FILES OR NOT.
the reason for this that windows 7, vista, xp or mother%^£?ing windows 95 will not fit on to the nvram chip. None of the above operating systems even support the hardware in a mobile phone past knowning what to do when one is connected to them.
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the reason for this that windows 7, vista, xp or mother%^£?ing windows 95 will not fit on to the nvram chip. None of the above operating systems even support the hardware in a mobile phone past knowning what to do when one is connected to them.
Don't be a bunch of douche bags and don't fall for this crap
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Yeah yeah .. pictures or it did not happen.

i tired it many times
even with WES7 i maked 300mb iso
and didnt success so proove will be good
i got always the error of acpi

MAMeingast said:
If you don't believe it, try it!
He/she doesn't have to "proove" anything by producing evidence... He/she is providing clear instructions on what has to be done, so you can test yourself if it is a correct claim!
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I don't think you know how "science" works...

M3PH said:
I really can;t believe i'm going to type this because you have all been taken for fools.
YOU CAN NOT INSTALL WINDOWS 7 FOR A PC ON A MOBILE PHONE. MODDED DLL FILES OR NOT.
the reason for this that windows 7, vista, xp or mother%^£?ing windows 95 will not fit on to the nvram chip. None of the above operating systems even support the hardware in a mobile phone past knowning what to do when one is connected to them.
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Windows 95 and 98 works great on HD2 (98 is a bit slow to use).
It seems you don't know what is Qemu. So go out and learn.
Maybe it works but it should be frickin damn slow when I see how slow is XP. Absolutely unusable so absolutely useless. You're better to use 95. Plays Starcraft perfectly <3
Go here and try by yourself before posting such BS mate.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=637889

apallohadas said:
I don't think you know how "science" works...
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And you don't seem to know what science is... We're on xda-developers! What does this have to do with science!?

It's more than possible, seeing how qemu's an emulator, so at the very least we'd be able to see how win phone 7 would look on the hd2 even though it'd be missing most of the feature set.

Moon2 said:
It's more than possible, seeing how qemu's an emulator, so at the very least we'd be able to see how win phone 7 would look on the hd2 even though it'd be missing most of the feature set.
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Are you confusing Windows Phone 7 with Windows 7?

Ti3noU said:
Windows 95 and 98 works great on HD2 (98 is a bit slow to use).
It seems you don't know what is Qemu. So go out and learn.
Maybe it works but it should be frickin damn slow when I see how slow is XP. Absolutely unusable so absolutely useless. You're better to use 95. Plays Starcraft perfectly <3
Go here and try by yourself before posting such BS mate.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=637889
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@M3PH,
Read the quoted post. While it cannot be natively run on the device, an OS can be emulated to run. 95 and 98 do work quite well on Qemu on other much older devices like the Himalaya and even the Blue Angel. Also, next time try to be less vocal about things. There was no reason to say things like that in your post.

MAMeingast said:
Are you confusing Windows Phone 7 with Windows 7?
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No, he meant Windows 7.

MAMeingast said:
Are you confusing Windows Phone 7 with Windows 7?
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Yh, sry, meant Windows 7, with the latest buzz about win phone 7, got the two mixed up.

mitchellvink said:
Then open winsetup.dll with HEX EDITOR NEO, find a 77 3D 07 78 01 and replace with E9 04 00 00 00.
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'pattern not found' when searching winsetup.dll for 77 3D 07 78 01
what code line is it on roughly? Did you use any specific version of win 7?
EDIT - ok, three hours spent and I cant even get qemu to see theres an .img file, (not that i expected it to work, cos i couldnt find teh memory size reference in winsetup.dll to change.), i give up, life's too short, and teh qemu documentation too fragmented for me.

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3D Viewer

Hello pipl !
Someone know if exist a 3d file viewer for WM5 - WM6?
I need to view mainly stl format, better if iges and step too.
I know something about 2d cad, but found nuthin' about 3d.
This probably isn't quite what you're looking for but Blender for pocket PC will import some files and it's free.
Thanx, little bit difficult, lot of commands, something easier?
Yah i wouldnt mind 3dsmax on my touch.
I was going to try blender but it says something about using one tool and you will have to do a hard reset.My memory is bad so i know i would hit it.
http://pocketpccentral.net/software/cad.htm
prob only does cad file types though
Rudegar said:
http://pocketpccentral.net/software/cad.htm
prob only does cad file types though
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Thanx, but I found only 2D support
Here's one! Only stl files.
R2V3DMobile
http://www.real2virtual.com/downloads.htm
has anyone had any luck with blender on a cdma touch pro?
I have the 3d version installed but the font is almost too tiny to even see with a magnifying glass even though it seems scaled for a much larger screen.... ie.... many of the tiny fonts over-lap or cut off others
and it is very very sluggish
so far I've not been able to have it open the font and language settings under preferences.
Also doesn't seem to want to close by merely pressing "quit blender" under the file menu.
The one I loaded is about 8 or 9 megs
oh. old thread to bring back on top. aware that the prew post is 10 months old are you?

Why does the ipaq 2200 seem to be faster than the HD?

I was most displeased to realize that this aging pocket pc that came out in 2003 with less specs than the HD can run circles around it in terms of speed.
Opening anything on the device is instant...the windows folder is click & your in whereas on the hd it can take 20+ seconds to open.
Anyway you slice it something is really wrong with that, that a machine with a slower processor, less ram/rom can do that.
Shame on Microsoft, and shame on HTC.
DRTigerlilly said:
I was most displeased to realize that this aging pocket pc that came out in 2003 with less specs than the HD can run circles around it in terms of speed.
Opening anything on the device is instant...the windows folder is click & your in whereas on the hd it can take 20+ seconds to open.
Anyway you slice it something is really wrong with that, that a machine with a slower processor, less ram/rom can do that.
Shame on Microsoft, and shame on HTC.
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The HD windows folder doesn't take 20+ seconds to open, at most it takes 2 seconds, if yours does take that time something is wrong, maybe to much open programs, also the windows folder of the HD got many more files than the hp 2200, also the display of the HD is larger so more things for the cpu to process, etc.
Shame on you for trying to put the HD under the hp 2200, the HD is much better in all aspects.
Sounds like you found your dream device
Seriously I never experience anything like that, maybe you should hardreset and install apps one by one (experimenting between installs) to try and nut out the conflicting software.
fyi, my HD Windows folder opens instantly with File Explorer, Resco and Total Commander, perhaps your HD has a beta ROM or bloated with many cracked apps.
What ever the reason for your ridiculous post and as a long time WM user I can assure you that the solution to your problem will not be solved by moaning or making false allegations
Gosh, you seem to have got rather an aggressive response.
Guys, I think that DRTigerLilly was just trying to point out that in some respects things seem to have gone slightly backwards, in that machines are now taking longer to perform what, to the user, appear to be similar functions. Obviously we all understand that there's a lot more going on under the hood as it were, but one of the primary drivers should be usability and it sometimes seems that the manufacturers forget this - has anybody used an XDA Exec?! I have one and it is very slow!
At least that's what I think he/she meant. Maybe it was just a general rant!
The real problem is that now we are all carrying powerful computers around in our pockets, we want them to perform more and more complex computing tasks.
Melty said:
Gosh, you seem to have got rather an aggressive response.
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gosh I couldnt agree more, what is becoming of the world these days
Lol! Fair point!
i definitely feel the OS has taken a step back, and the majority of the blame lies with Microsoft....this is what happens when you add new code, on top of old cold, you get a bogged down OS.
From the perspective of the devices, they tend to be only incremental changes, and often good features are taken out in successive devices...*cough* flash *cough*
I don't want the ipaq its only a pda, but performance wise it is a disappointment.
My HD is running Dutty's v 3.7 which i find to be a very responsive rom overall...but comparing it to the much older device was kind of why there seemed to be that kind of discrepancy between the devices.
and it does take 20 seconds open the windows folder with nothing else open.
DRTigerlilly said:
and it does take 20 seconds open the windows folder with nothing else open.
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Mine does it almost instantly with oficial ROM 1.19, using the windows mobile explorer and resco explorer almost same time, something must be wrong with yours.
Now about the performance, please try to play this game
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-xtrakt.html
on the HD and on the hp 2200
Ok, but WM2003 uses memory in different way (RAM like ROM) and no Radios (only BT): file system speed higher and less services to charge in RAM.
D'rath
My windows folder opens in about 4 seconds using the file explorer.
I have the 1.56 rom
brusko1972 said:
My windows folder opens in about 4 seconds using the file explorer.
I have the 1.56 rom
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Pretty much the same here... 2-3 seconds tops!
What an odd thread. The title of the thread is clearly untrue, comparing the time it takes two different devices to open different sized files that happen to have the same name is just wrong. You have to try to open the same file (windows files from the same version) or the same software to make such a claim, otherwise it is completely misleading.
My windows file also takes only a few seconds to open on the HD no matter which ROM (stock or cooked).
hard reset the phone, and its still not 20 seconds, down to about 4 but its still instant opening the windows directory on the ipaq and its still not instant on the HD.
The reality of it though, is that i use my HD to keep my medical books, and i'm not using it in stock state...or with nothing installed, and with my books and apps installed...20 seconds is how long it takes to open the windows directory.
Same apps/books installed on the ipaq...and navigating the OS, still feels instant.
Its a disappointment...
DRTigerlilly said:
hard reset the phone, and its still not 20 seconds, down to about 4 but its still instant opening the windows directory on the ipaq and its still not instant on the HD.
The reality of it though, is that i use my HD to keep my medical books, and i'm not using it in stock state...or with nothing installed, and with my books and apps installed...20 seconds is how long it takes to open the windows directory.
Same apps/books installed on the ipaq...and navigating the OS, still feels instant.
Its a disappointment...
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There is a lot more to load in windows folder of HD than your ipaq. All the touchflo files are also in the windows folder, which do cost a few more time to load than the original windows shell.
Try copying all the manila files to a folder on desktop and see if it instantly opens on a PC with PIV with a gig of RAM in list view So HD nowhere to be blamed on this IMHO.
Ivo NL said:
...All the touchflo files are also in the windows folder, which do cost a few more time to load than the original windows shell.
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Windows 3.1

I wasn't sure where to put this but oh well, if it shouldn't be here a mod can move it
Anyway I just wanted to say, I managed to install windows 3.1 on my tab through dosbox with the original windows setup files. There isn't much use for it but it works fine and can install old dos games. I am going to try the same process for windows 95, now that would be cool. I read it has been done on android. But will have to see after I extract the win 95 setup files.
Also if anybody asks the question what is the point of doing that?
The answer is because I can and I want to ;-)
Cool. I'd like to see XP installed if at all possible after you attempt 95 (and succeed at it) .
Xp would be impossible really. Not by any meens I am aware of anyway. Pretty sure I can get 95 working. Still trying to find a working win95 image. All the .img files I have tried are missing the boot file. I am about to start looking again Also win 98 may be possible, sombody managed to boot it on another android device (can't remember what it was) but it was so laggy it was un useable but with the tab 10.1's power maybe it could work. Don't know though, it wasn't run through dosbox anyway.
Well done. It would have been slightly more impressive if you managed to install it off original floppies!
beta546 said:
Xp would be impossible really. Not by any meens I am aware of anyway. Pretty sure I can get 95 working. Still trying to find a working win95 image. All the .img files I have tried are missing the boot file. I am about to start looking again Also win 98 may be possible, sombody managed to boot it on another android device (can't remember what it was) but it was so laggy it was un useable but with the tab 10.1's power maybe it could work. Don't know though, it wasn't run through dosbox anyway.
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It was a Samsung Moment, oddly enough, if I remember right.
Not sure. It has been done on nokias n900, psp and ps3. I have managed to get win 95 working on my tab but all from an image and not with dosbox so can't access my own files like I can on win 3.1. I also got windows 3.11 going in dos box wich is a bit better than 3.1 with a few improvements. For 95 I used files for another android phone and it uses libsdl to load the image of 95, but like I say that way I can't access my sd card through 95, but if I get it going in dosbox my sd is mounted as the hdd. I think I can extract the image and add things too it like game files and stuff. If anybody wants to run 3.11 or 95 on there tab I can post links and files but just so you know %95 of it is other people's work, I just got it going on the tab, 3.11 was a bit harder as it wouldnt boot on it's own in dos box so had to merge the 3.11 windows folder with my 3.1 folder and then it worked Installing 3.1 was crazy cos it takes you though the old windows install just like a pc and installs the windows folder on sd then you boot from that in dosbox using the win.com file. Anyway it's just a bit of fun and it's keeping me occupied so if anybody wants to play around I can tell you how. Don't know if I can post windows files here though, anybody know the score on that? I am pretty sure 3.1 and 95 are considderd abandonware as it would be impossible to purchase them from microsoft, I had bough them many years ago so technically I own the license to them so can download them legally
I had Win98 (I think) running on my Nexus One, it's a fun gimick.
Would be better on the GTab.
Yeah 95 and 98 will work fine just dosbox can't mount the sd as a drive when using the boot cmd so nothing can be installed unless I can unpack the .img file and add stuff, still haven't got to my computer yet to try 3.1 is fully functional as it runs inside dos box , the sd is mounted as the file system so you can navigate through windows to install old dos games and 3.1 apps
GalaxyNinja said:
Well done. It would have been slightly more impressive if you managed to install it off original floppies!
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Difficult seeing the lack of a 3.5 floppy drive on the tab!
Anyway the floppies didn't contain windows, just the boot files and drivers to use the cd rom.
Content redacted.
Have a nice day.
BoulderGeek said:
I used to have to install Windows 3.1 and office with a pile of 80 floppy disks.
I think of Win3.1 as only slightly less attractive than those partial birth abortion posters the clinic bombers harass people with. That kruft needs to stay dead and buried.
Kudos for the technical chops, but I want all Windows zombies to die harsh deaths.
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Lol. Nice image. But if you ain't got anything interesting to post then don't bother. So what if 3.1 and 95 are old and crappy. That's not the point. The point is Android lets us do so much stuff and it is always good to find out what our devices can do. *****ing and slagging somthing off is just stupid. The whole idea od these forums is so people can stretch the linits of of there phones and tablets. Yes running 3.1 isn't exactly stretching the 10.1's power but being able to install and run windows on android is pretty crazy. I only started this thread to tell people about it. It was just a little project for me cos wanted to play some of the ganes I did when I was young.
Not interested in starting an argument but nobody wants to see comments like that!
Edited due to an inability to communicate my original intent.
Good for you.
BoulderGeek said:
Edited due to an inability to communicate my original intent.
Good for you.
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No point trying to sound clever after talking about aborted babys like that!
beta546 said:
No point trying to sound clever after talking about aborted babys like that!
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Stfu, troll. You should be aborted. your inability to read disqualifies you.
Eat a bowl of dicks.
Posted from a BAMF 'Bolt running Skyraider Zeus.
Lol
Originally Posted by BoulderGeek
I used to have to install Windows 3.1 and office with a pile of 80 floppy disks.
I think of Win3.1 as only slightly less attractive than those partial birth abortion posters the clinic bombers harass people with. That kruft needs to stay dead and buried.
Kudos for the technical chops, but I want all Windows zombies to die harsh deaths.
Which part of that have I misunderstood?!?!

[PROJECT]Digging into WP8 Emulator

Hello XDA members!
I installed the leaked WinPho 8 SDK, and (as OndraSter said in an another topic) the ROM images are VHD files.
Currently, I can only open and mount Flash.vhd. The other 3 is not valid VHD.
I have found lots of REG files inside this and will try to unlock, but there is a tons of reg.
Found changes from 7.5:
There will be new ring- and alert tones
Power Point Presentations can be view in Portrait mode
Windows Live renamed to Microsoft account in account manager
If you set password you:
dont get a new "window" to set the password, just expand screen downwards
you can show the typed caracters
Charging while turned off?
I found some interesting files in boot partition:
battery_100.bmpx
battery_255.bmpx
battery_500.bmpx
battery_755.bmpx
battery_1000.bmpx
battery_charge_normall.bmpx
battery_errorr.bmpx
battery_inside_empty.bmpx
battery_plug_100.bmpx
battery_plug_255.bmpx
battery_plug_500.bmpx
battery_plug_755.bmpx
battery_plug_1000.bmpx
ffuloader.bmpx
mobilestartup.exe
pluggedin_battery_loww.bmpx
resetphone.bmpx
resetphone.exe
unplugged_battery_loww.bmpx
I live in a strong suspicion that new Windows Phone 8 devices can be charge without booting complete OS (becouse of EFI, maybe).
I cannot open bmpx files, becouse I could not find any program to do this.
Hidden video
Found an interesting video in emulator.
I have no idea what is this.
balcsida said:
Found an interesting video in emulator.
I have no idea what is this.
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hmm maybe we can use bing vision on videos
james1123 said:
hmm maybe we can use bing vision on videos
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Yes, it is
bing -> vision -> ... menu -> test settings
balcsida said:
I found some interesting files in boot partition:
battery_100.bmpx
battery_255.bmpx
battery_500.bmpx
battery_755.bmpx
battery_1000.bmpx
battery_charge_normall.bmpx
battery_errorr.bmpx
battery_inside_empty.bmpx
battery_plug_100.bmpx
battery_plug_255.bmpx
battery_plug_500.bmpx
battery_plug_755.bmpx
battery_plug_1000.bmpx
ffuloader.bmpx
mobilestartup.exe
pluggedin_battery_loww.bmpx
resetphone.bmpx
resetphone.exe
unplugged_battery_loww.bmpx
I live in a strong suspicion that new Windows Phone 8 devices can be charge without booting complete OS (becouse of EFI, maybe).
I cannot open bmpx files, becouse I could not find any program to do this.
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These are just icon files :good:
balcsida said:
Hello XDA members!
Currently, I can only open and mount Flash.vhd. The other 3 is not valid VHD.
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They are actually valid, those are differencing disks images and Flash.vhd is a parent for them.
balcsida said:
Hello XDA members!
After a second, turning into 1024x768x32 resolution, and after another few seconds, it restarts
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What's your host OS? It works fine with Hyper-V on Windows 8 RP x64
View attachment 1227657
Hi using Windows 7 for host and runs vhd-s in virtual pc 2007.
I confirm all vhd works.
gamo84 said:
Hi using Windows 7 for host and runs vhd-s in virtual pc 2007.
I confirm all vhd works.
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Can you share how exactly you did the setup
Sorry for that trouble. I can confirm ONLY that vhd-s are okay. So I can mount it. But I don't think they are usable with virtual pc
Finally, I can start the emulator (do not ask how )
I will modify the first post to tell the (maybe little) differences between 7.5 and 8.
Good Topic
I hope the experts can find more changes and inform us the new changes coming with Windows Phone 8. I doubt there will be anything substantial to inform by Microsoft, although I am expecting some surprises.
You can run flash.vhd in VirtualBox, by setting the guest OS to Windows 7 and upping the graphics memory and enabling 3d + 2d graphics acceleration.
ie shortcut sync
any sign of sync of ie bookmarks to Skydrive to then syc with desktop; also sync of recent web history?

Windows 8 without NX, SSE2 support

Hi, I have a pentium 3 1ghz that not supporting NX and SSE2. I tried to install it in many ways but this is impossible. There is a change to be able to install windows 8 without this problem?
Sorry for my English. Greetings.
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but it seems very close to, if not completely, impossible to me, that you will be able to run Windows 8 in any version on that CPU.
See http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/hh975398.aspx
Somehow we need to remove the UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR (0x0000005D) bugcheck from the kernel. The Consumer Preview worked fine.
you're right about that... well I wish you good look with it, but honestly - I don't believe you'll manage to do it but this is xda, so anything can happen xD
If it wasn't for Jessenic's comment, I'd say it's probably a lost cause; the P3 line is over a decade old by now and there have been many additions to the x86 instruction set since then. I believe Vista and Win7 were able to run on P3 but not on anything older, and given the changes and support for new hardware that Win8 brings, it wouldn't surprise me if they decided to drop that legacy support.
That said, if you want to try working around whatever test is bugchecking, set up a kernel debugger, generate the bugcheck, and then work backward from there to find the test. Spoof it, jump over it, or otherwise avoid taking the code path to BSOD-land, and you should be good to go.
There's actually usable documentations on what's checking when. Sadly it only scratches the surface (no pun intended). But it should give us a lead on, where to check if we can't disable the check in the kernel or spoof its result.
For the mentioned documentation see my first link in this thread.
I can upgrade to RTM from the preview to avoid this problem?
Kisler your pentium 3 is old already 10 years or more so it could be unseported that would be weard because Windows 7 you can install.
Sent from my LG-P970 using xda premium
I installed the consumer preview and it works really slow. In the virtual machine from another pc, I tried with 1ghz and 768 ram and worked well but maybe the ram (speed 133) is too slow compared with that of the virtual machine (1333) ... This is over.
Thanks!
Wait, and what about the Pentium 4? Those had SSE2... And about no nx support, well if it was just an option in xp, vista, 7 and dev preview 8 then I do not see why it really matters.
Hi I have the solution to install Windows 8 / 8.1 without NX
Write "without nx" on google and open the first link (it's a video tutorial).
following this tutorial you'll be able to install Windows 8/8.1 even on a pentium 3

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