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Full Backup/Image of Device

Hello, everyone!
I've done some digging on this topic, and found some bits and pieces of information, but nothing definitive; so I'm gonna ask what I think is a really basic question...
...now that I've finally got my PPC-6800 just how I like it, how do I (i.e., what's the best way to) make a full and complete backup of it? That is to say, I simply wanna plug it in, and tell it to dump EVERYTHING onto my PC (which I also backup regularly). I want all data files, apps, settings, preferences, etc. backed up, so that if I ever have to do a hard-reset, or if I ever drop it in the toilet and have to buy another one, all I would need to do is plug that one up, and do a full restore so that it would be just like it was without my having to fuss with anything. This full backup may or may not have to include info stored on the micro SD card.
Sounds like a simple enough request, doesn't it? Well, can it be done? And if so, how? With something I that came with it (like ActiveSync), or will I need to purchase a 3rd party software app?
This can't possibly be that hard, can it???
Any guidance in this area is VERY much appreciated!
Thanks in advance!!!

i use Spb Backup, which does exactly what you are asking. You get your phone how you want it, make a backup, then you can go back to that point whenever and it is exactly the same.
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/ or pm me

Actually, I use Spb Clone which I think goes one step forward where you can load your image to several phones at once. Same great company.

Thanks a bunch, mac4lyfe and Sturatt!
I checked out the website, and you're correct...it looks like just what I was looking for. One question, though. I keep reading that it makes a backup onto the phone itself! It looks like it makes some sort of a self-extracting executable that is copied to the phone, and then can be run if you need a restore. I'm not sure how much sense it makes to put the backup file on the phone...what if the phone is lost, destroyed, or unbootable? So my question is, can you set up the backup so that the phone is backed up to your laptop or desktop PC? That way the backup file would be separated from the phone, and then could be used if and when the phone needed hard-resetting or replacing. I can't find anything in the documentation to let me know if this is possible.
Thanks again for your expertise!!!

sweet, thx man..

spb backup only backs up the main device memory, not the storage card. so it puts the backup exe on the storage card, which you can then move to your computer.

I use Sprite Backup, same concept, they also have a nice backup file browser for the PC that lets you get inidividual items out of the backup file should you just need one particular item. There is also the option to backup directly to the PC instead of the card with Sprite.

I have been using sprite backup.
the application performs a scheduled backup (password protected) to the sd card.
sometimes I manually backup just the personal databases as a standalone.
I manually transfer the entire sd card to the pc every once and a while (cause depending on the card usage may make the card die sooner).... can't wait till sprite can do this automagically via wifi.
the only time I had any issues is with sprite bacup is with the rom upgrade.... even though they say it can be done... it didn't take, from what I gather its best to reinstall all from scratch once a rom update is performed anyways.....
qu1nn

Sturatt said:
spb backup only backs up the main device memory, not the storage card. so it puts the backup exe on the storage card, which you can then move to your computer.
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Not true. You can also have SPB backup all the contents of your storage card if you wish.
Of course, if you start getting backups that are huge, it becomes difficult to manage and takes FOREVER.
I use SPB Backup, and I have it scheduled to automatically run a full backup of my phone at 4am each morning. It backs up the entire main memory, and a few select folders on my storage card. All backups are kept in a folder on my storage card called.... Backups.
Each backup file for me generally averages about 40MB compressed.
I keep 5 days worth of backups, and once a week, I transfer one of these onto my computer for safekeeping as well. I also have it soft reset my phone each night so in the morning, I'm set to go.
I used sprite backup, it also works well, but I like SPB more. Highly recommend it.

[Q] Ready to replace this tomorrow..just one question

I have a few issues with my Fascinate so I will be getting a new one tomorrow. So I have NOVA and Asphalt from Gameloft. I am pretty far along in them and I don't wanna lose my saves when I return them. If I save the Gameloft folder from my SD card and put it on the new one, will that restore my games saves when I re-install the games?

Unfortunately no your saved game data won't save over to the new phone. If you root it you can use titanium backup to save the game and data from your downloaded apps, but then you would have to root the new phone to restore the saved data to the restored apps. Unless your already running froyo, but I'm not sure if it would restore the saved data from the apps.
Sorry to dash your hopes.
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jonscapri said:
Unfortunately no your saved game data won't save over to the new phone. If you root it you can use titanium backup to save the game and data from your downloaded apps, but then you would have to root the new phone to restore the saved data to the restored apps. Unless your already running froyo, but I'm not sure if it would restore the saved data from the apps.
Sorry to dash your hopes.
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Are you sure? I've looked through it and it has the files for the levels I'm on.

GoogleAndroid said:
I have a few issues with my Fascinate so I will be getting a new one tomorrow. So I have NOVA and Asphalt from Gameloft. I am pretty far along in them and I don't wanna lose my saves when I return them. If I save the Gameloft folder from my SD card and put it on the new one, will that restore my games saves when I re-install the games?
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Im not sure about these games but when i played RoboDefense and then got a replacement phone but kept the same SD card, everything was still saved for me.

When applying the Bionix Rom or any other ROM, does your apps and data erase?

Ive recently rooted and now wanna take the plunge to greener pastures... When adding a ROM, will it erase my data and apps? Im assuming Google will take care of the contacts and calendars but will have to re-download apps? I have Titanium backup - I can should just move its backup folder to the external if anything? Please advise an eager and appreciative noob

JD76 said:
Ive recently rooted and now wanna take the plunge to greener pastures... When adding a ROM, will it erase my data and apps? Im assuming Google will take care of the contacts and calendars but will have to re-download apps? I have Titanium backup - I can should just move its backup folder to the external if anything? Please advise an eager and appreciative noob
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Yes, most of the time the /data partition is formated. What most of us do is use "Titanium Backup" from the market and back up all out apps before flashing. Then you flash your new rom and let it boot up. Log into the market again and re-install Titanium Backup. Once in TB you hit the menu key -> Batch. In there you should see a option to restore user apps and data.

I also use Titanium Backup and it saves me a LOT of headache. The only downside is sitting there hitting the install button (in my case) 200 times.

aloneinshadow said:
I also use Titanium Backup and it saves me a LOT of headache. The only downside is sitting there hitting the install button (in my case) 200 times.
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If you paid for full version, you wouldn't have to click the install button 200 times. I've tried so many roms/updates that at some point it became a no-brainer to pay for the full version and save myself the pain.

aloneinshadow said:
I also use Titanium Backup and it saves me a LOT of headache. The only downside is sitting there hitting the install button (in my case) 200 times.
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If you buy the donation version, it saves you alot of time. Best $4 I spent

Thanks guys.. what about a Nandroid backup.. can I restore from there?

If you buy the donation version, it saves you alot of time. Best $4 I spent
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I think its gone up tp $6. I'm cheap. :-D
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JD76 said:
Thanks guys.. what about a Nandroid backup.. can I restore from there?
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No. Nandroid backs up the whole ROM, restoring that would undo the ROM install you just did. Just get Titanium, it's the only way to fly.
And when restoring, particularly between ROMs, don't restore system data. It causes issues that are hard to diagnose sometimes. Other times it works fine, but IMO it's not worth it. If you are re-installing the exact same ROM version, it should be OK, but switching from stock to Bionix, for example, it will break things. Just do the user apps and data, it saves hassle.
If you don't like hitting the button constantly, stop being such a cheap bastard and pay up. It's saved me far more time than the $4 or so I spent on it. Even at $6 it's a bargain if you like to play with ROMs and such. And backup your backup, the internal SD can lose data. I just turned on the Dropbox sync and push the backups up there once in a while.

aloneinshadow said:
I think its gone up tp $6. I'm cheap. :-D
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If I remember they request 5.99 but if you click the drop down there is a 3.99 option that still gets you the license.

ttabbal said:
And when restoring, particularly between ROMs, don't restore system data. It causes issues that are hard to diagnose sometimes. Other times it works fine, but IMO it's not worth it. If you are re-installing the exact same ROM version, it should be OK, but switching from stock to Bionix, for example, it will break things. Just do the user apps and data, it saves hassle.
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im also thinking of going from stock to bionix but i want to be double safe more than i want to be sorry so i will ask you to repeat yourselves a bit with a little more detail. are you saying its ok to backup the white (User Apps) and green (System service with useful data) options from stock and restore them in bionix or will some of the green ones screw up bionix? i dont backup the red (System service) options. sorry for asking you to repeat yourselves but redundancy is a noobs best friend. i know im capable of flashing this rom but i want to iron out all the details before proceeding.

I back up system data and restore selectively, like memos and SMS, etc. Don't batch restore all system data, just the stuff that has content you need.
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ok thank you

Paying for titanium takes the sting out of the wipes that all the best roms do. Break it down to what your time is worth. Once you start flashing roms, you will keep doing it more and more and titanium will be your best friend. If they told me I had to pay a new ten dollars, I wouldn't hesitate.
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oh i already payed for TB. ive used it plenty just on the stock vibrant. its priceless in my opinion so $6 is nothing.

sirganon said:
im also thinking of going from stock to bionix but i want to be double safe more than i want to be sorry so i will ask you to repeat yourselves a bit with a little more detail. are you saying its ok to backup the white (User Apps) and green (System service with useful data) options from stock and restore them in bionix or will some of the green ones screw up bionix? i dont backup the red (System service) options. sorry for asking you to repeat yourselves but redundancy is a noobs best friend. i know im capable of flashing this rom but i want to iron out all the details before proceeding.
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there's a lot of stuff you don't need to back up. i only backup apps i've installed and their data (backup all user apps batch). this then requires me to reenter wifi info, resync contacts, and i lose all text messages, which none of those are a big deal to me and minimizes toying with titanium.

JD76 said:
Thanks guys.. what about a Nandroid backup.. can I restore from there?
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no, but it's recommended to do a nandroid backup before you flash your first rom and you only need to ever do it that once. titanium backup is what you want for backing up apps and stuff before flashing a rom.

Well thanks to you guys I now have bionix final on my phone. And I have the circular blue battery mod which in my opinion looks way better than the stock bionix battery. Easier to read too.
Thanks again, loving this rom

I just switched to the donate version so I could sync it with my dropbox account. I'm very glad I did. It's much easier for me to store things there and have my sd card freed up of some space.
Question though; does titanium backup game save data as well?
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I just tried to backup my fruit ninja & angry birds but it didnt save any of my data

After reading I could back up to Dropbox and batch reload, the $6 bucks for the Pro version of Titanium was a no brainer for me. While I get a certain amount of geeky satisfaction playing with the phone, hitting install repetitivly is not one.

Best way to migrate

I'm going to be coming from the Motorola Atrix to the SGS3. Whats the best way to migrate my apps + data? I know I can just reload my purchased apps from the Play Store but I have a lot of 3rd party apps that were sideloaded. I have Titanium Pro but will it work going from one phone to another?

Titanium Backup will work from phone to phone. Just remember that you will have to root the SGS3 before you can use it. Also, make sure that if you use the batch restore function not to restore system apps and data and this can mess up things on the new phone. Just restore user apps and data.
Hope this helps.

Thanks. Forgot that I would have to root new sammy for titanium.

johnnyutah22 said:
Thanks. Forgot that I would have to root new sammy for titanium.
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Just get app backup and app installer from the market they are free
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remf4i said:
Just get app backup and app installer from the market they are free
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From their page in app store: *** Notice: App Backup cannot backup data or settings of apps for you, but it only backup the apk files.

caveman999 said:
Titanium Backup will work from phone to phone. Just remember that you will have to root the SGS3 before you can use it. Also, make sure that if you use the batch restore function not to restore system apps and data and this can mess up things on the new phone. Just restore user apps and data.
Hope this helps.
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Doesn't TIBU require root? I'm anxious to be able to use TIBU, but don't want to root or mod phone until I am sure there there is a way to get back to stock, including erasing ROM change count.

ewingr said:
Doesn't TIBU require root? I'm anxious to be able to use TIBU, but don't want to root or mod phone until I am sure there there is a way to get back to stock, including erasing ROM change count.
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Yeah, I said it requires root...
As of right now, I am not aware of any better way to migrate data between phones other than Titanium. I just hope that this will be rooted as quickly as the international version was.

caveman999 said:
Yeah, I said it requires root...
As of right now, I am not aware of any better way to migrate data between phones other than Titanium. I just hope that this will be rooted as quickly as the international version was.
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Doh! Sorry. Been reading so much, I"m reverted to skimming too fast.
I too am anxious to get it all going. I suspect it will be fast. But in the meantime, we suffer w/o data updates it would seem.
The price of being on the got to have list early I guess

Can someone explain me a little bit more? I'm a noob for this stuff...
So I have Titanium on my old Galaxy, I make a backup. Then I root my S3. Then what? I install from Play Store the Titanium app on my S3? Or I have to install the Titanium that was on my old Galaxy?
Thanks for your patience...

I believe Titanium backs up to your sd card. You install from market on new phone, then place the backup file from Titanium on your sd card to new phone and restore.

agafed said:
Can someone explain me a little bit more? I'm a noob for this stuff...
So I have Titanium on my old Galaxy, I make a backup. Then I root my S3. Then what? I install from Play Store the Titanium app on my S3? Or I have to install the Titanium that was on my old Galaxy?
Thanks for your patience...
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First, your GS3 will need to be rooted. (I don't know if TIBU will even install or run if not).
You can install it from the Market, not needed from your old device so that TIBU can restore from them. But, you need the data files that were backed up on your old device.
While TIBU backs up to yoru SD card, you need to get those files over to your new device. Several ways that can happen:
Files put on Google Drive, or DropBox, then moved to new device.
Set your backup directory to an external SD instead of internal SD. That is what I do.
Once you have the files from your old device you can restore to the S3.
I'm assuming your old device is not ICS. So you will NOT want to do system restore.
I've read that people occasionally have issues restoring from TIBU. Just to be safest as possible, I will likely install all my apps from Market, and try to restore the data from Tibu.
That being said though, I won't be doing that until I can root, and I don't plan to root until I'm sure I can get everything back to stock.

Thanks a lot to both of you for answering me. I think I got it now. I'm coming from Skyrocket with GB and I'm planning to get the S3 in about august... so probably the rooting won't be a problem for then.
Thanks again...

johnnyutah22 said:
I'm going to be coming from the Motorola Atrix to the SGS3. Whats the best way to migrate my apps + data? I know I can just reload my purchased apps from the Play Store but I have a lot of 3rd party apps that were sideloaded. I have Titanium Pro but will it work going from one phone to another?
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Purchased Apps should be uninstalled prior to using the new phone. Yes, I know that you can often install paid apps on multiple devices, but that's not the intent. Then once you register the phone and it shows on the market, you can quickly just install all the apps in the list.
IF you have a Google business acct they actually have a apk that you put on the phone and it can uninstall and unregister a (living) phone from your Play (Market) account (as well as do other tricks like full wipe and changing the pin). Normal people can only 'hide' the unused phone.
TI (which I use) requires Root to do it's stuff (or a lot of it), so without root access, I don't see it. Thankfully, I use a 3P contacts sync and wifi settings backup so I won't have that issue with my old phone being Dead.

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Purchased Apps should be uninstalled prior to using the new phone. Yes, I know that you can often install paid apps on multiple devices, but that's not the intent. Then once you register the phone and it shows on the market, you can quickly just install all the apps in the list.
IF you have a Google business acct they actually have a apk that you put on the phone and it can uninstall and unregister a (living) phone from your Play (Market) account (as well as do other tricks like full wipe and changing the pin). Normal people can only 'hide' the unused phone.
TI (which I use) requires Root to do it's stuff (or a lot of it), so without root access, I don't see it. Thankfully, I use a 3P contacts sync and wifi settings backup so I won't have that issue with my old phone being Dead.
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Well, I haven't checked my paid apps yet. I did not uninstall them from my old phone, and I have already activated the new SGS3.
It automatically downloaded and installed my apps. (Again, haven't checked which may be missing yet).
So, all is there. On a few, I may be able to export data, on others, I'm not so sure I"ll succeed getting data there until I get root for TIBU.

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Well, I haven't checked my paid apps yet. I did not uninstall them from my old phone, and I have already activated the new SGS3.
It automatically downloaded and installed my apps. (Again, haven't checked which may be missing yet).
So, all is there. On a few, I may be able to export data, on others, I'm not so sure I"ll succeed getting data there until I get root for TIBU.
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You might not be so lucky with all your paid apps. Some, like gameloft, are picky about making sure to check with the license server that only one copy of their game is active on a device at a time.

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You might not be so lucky with all your paid apps. Some, like gameloft, are picky about making sure to check with the license server that only one copy of their game is active on a device at a time.
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I just installed most of my pay apps, some I've started using on my TP instead. I was surprised that SWIFTKEYE X didn't charge me, but I was an original beta tester for them, I didn't like the default Swype keyboard, the predictions were so off, and the Swiftkey does predictions based on my posts, emails, etc.
I had been hopping to restore my many network wifi stuff, but the program that does that isn't compatible with ICS...

How do you start Tap&Go after initial setup?

Initial setup did not pop up with v20. I wanna do Tap&Go because I have over 200+ apps from previous phone. Searched night and day and can't find the damn way. Anyone know?

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Initial setup did not pop up with v20. I wanna do Tap&Go because I have over 200+ apps from previous phone. Searched night and day and can't find the damn way. Anyone know?
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Go to Play store and download the LG Backup (sender) to your current phone(old device)
Open the app, select how to transfer (probably wirelessly) on the V20 go to LG Backup - receive data and then hit start on the old device.

Is LG Backup preferred over Helium for non-rooted phones? I have never done this, go from a non-rooted Note7 to a non-rooted V20 (likely my plan next week).
I need to know what the best course of action is for doing this, Tap&Go, Helium, or LG Backup. I want as little setup to be required on the new device when I get rid of my Note7....
I feel like this should have been perfected by now considering whenever my girlfriend gets a new iPhone, she has all her apps and app data transfer over without hesitation, all the way down to whatever level she was on in Candy Crush (ugh) without using any type of login to the game itself to know that via cloud backup or other. I've never used Helium before but I started using it last night for backup and it appears it might go smoothly, I just don't know about restoring just yet.

My V20 is supposed to be delivered today. My plan is to use the LG Backup to transfer apps, then Helium to transfer most of the app data. There are some app that Helium can't backup but most of them just needs a login/password to get back up and running.
edit: batch restoring with Helium is usually not as smooth as the backup part. I normally would get random errors that Helium has stopped during restore. But when you open Helium again after the error, you can see which apps restored and which apps didn't so you can manually restore individual ones.

I just used LG backup. So far everything looks good. I did take a Helium backup of the app data in case I find something missing.

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I just used LG backup. So far everything looks good. I did take a Helium backup of the app data in case I find something missing.
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does the LG software transfer other stuff like samsung smartswitch does, including stuff like wifi settings, sms, photos, files/folders, etc?

maximus96 said:
does the LG software transfer other stuff like samsung smartswitch does, including stuff like wifi settings, sms, photos, files/folders, etc?
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It looked to me to be about the same as smartswitch, but I have not yet really dug into what it copied. I know for sure it copied apps, photos, and SMS. It spent quite awhile copying "personal data" which I am assuming is app data.

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It looked to me to be about the same as smartswitch, but I have not yet really dug into what it copied. I know for sure it copied apps, photos, and SMS. It spent quite awhile copying "personal data" which I am assuming is app data.
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I read that it does not copy app data. Personal data is probably stuff you put in the internal storage.

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I read that it does not copy app data. Personal data is probably stuff you put in the internal storage.
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The amount it copied under that was 4gb after zipping. That is a lot more than my files. Particularly since all my photos and videos were on the SD which I had physically moved to the V20 before running LG Backup. That is why I am thinking there had to be some app data in that.

nicholb said:
The amount it copied under that was 4gb after zipping. That is a lot more than my files. Particularly since all my photos and videos were on the SD which I had physically moved to the V20 before running LG Backup. That is why I am thinking there had to be some app data in that.
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Good to know, thanks.

LG backup is so slow and error-prone because data transfer size is so big. It zip files and send over BT(?)
so helium backup is good one?

KryptosXLayer2 said:
Is LG Backup preferred over Helium for non-rooted phones? I have never done this, go from a non-rooted Note7 to a non-rooted V20 (likely my plan next week).
I need to know what the best course of action is for doing this, Tap&Go, Helium, or LG Backup. I want as little setup to be required on the new device when I get rid of my Note7....
I feel like this should have been perfected by now considering whenever my girlfriend gets a new iPhone, she has all her apps and app data transfer over without hesitation, all the way down to whatever level she was on in Candy Crush (ugh) without using any type of login to the game itself to know that via cloud backup or other. I've never used Helium before but I started using it last night for backup and it appears it might go smoothly, I just don't know about restoring just yet.
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You are right. Much easier on an iPhone to transfer to a new iPhone. Android sucks when getting a new phone although Google tried to make it a little easier in the Pixel.