I had been using all sorts of ROMs (both windows and androids) to test the best battery life. All this was on a 16GB class 2 (the stock card for tmous). None of the ROMs gave me more that 8 hours of "less than moderate" use.
I then heard that the card made a big difference. Anyway, I also had 3 other cards laying around in the house, all 2 GB ones (all class 2). I had been running mattc 1.6 for about a week since I preffered his ROM. I copied the android folder and other related folders from my 16GB to a 2GB Class 2 Nokia card (came with a tmous nokia phone).
Now with rom on the nokia 2GB card, I went to office with about 50% charge with a charger in hand to charge in about 4 hours or so. Checked after 4 hours and still had about 40% left. Felt good. Finally, found a solution to the battery issue.
Now I installed the "Current Widget" to see what the differences are. In the meantime, I also went and bought a 4GB class 10 (Transcend).
My settings are:
Fetch email every hour.
SetCPU Battery < 100: 899 MHz
SetCPU Screen Off: 245 MHz
Current Widget: log in file every 1 minute.
Here are my results for Mattc 1.6 on various cards (over a period of 5 days):
16GB Class 2:
avg 58 mA current during screen off.
avg 400+ mA when on.
battery drain at 6% to 7% per hour standby.
2GB Class 2 (nokia):
avg 6 mA current during screen off.
avg 350 mA when on.
battery drain at 1% per hour standby.
4GB Class 10 (transcend):
avg 56 mA current during screen off.
avg 400+ mA when on.
battery drain at 6% to 7% per hour standby.
2GB Class 2 (sandisk):
avg 58 mA current during screen off.
avg 400+ mA when on.
battery drain at 6% to 7% per hour standby.
So my findings so far are that the battery drain IS because of the card you use. It is highly dependent on the amount of current being used during standby. I'm lucky I found the nokia 2GB card and tested it or else I would have used the 4GB Class 10 and come back and said the battery drain is not due to the card. I've seen other threads saying that class 2 will cause heavy drain, which is not the case with my setup.
Whenever I start Android, I kill all processes once. Sometimes, I have to restart Android on the 2GB nokia if I see 60mA current for 5 mins or more of standby.
That's verry interesting !
gues i'll buy a smaller card then.
go here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770903
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770903
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The card might effect it some, but the large chagnes you report are due to problems with the build itself.
kcaj32 said:
I had been using all sorts of ROMs (both windows and androids) to test the best battery life. All this was on a 16GB class 2 (the stock card for tmous). None of the ROMs gave me more that 8 hours of "less than moderate" use.
I then heard that the card made a big difference. Anyway, I also had 3 other cards laying around in the house, all 2 GB ones (all class 2). I had been running mattc 1.6 for about a week since I preffered his ROM. I copied the android folder and other related folders from my 16GB to a 2GB Class 2 Nokia card (came with a tmous nokia phone).
Now with rom on the nokia 2GB card, I went to office with about 50% charge with a charger in hand to charge in about 4 hours or so. Checked after 4 hours and still had about 40% left. Felt good. Finally, found a solution to the battery issue.
Now I installed the "Current Widget" to see what the differences are. In the meantime, I also went and bought a 4GB class 10 (Transcend).
My settings are:
Fetch email every hour.
SetCPU Battery < 100: 899 MHz
SetCPU Screen Off: 245 MHz
Current Widget: log in file every 1 minute.
Here are my results for Mattc 1.6 on various cards (over a period of 5 days):
16GB Class 2:
avg 58 mA current during screen off.
avg 400+ mA when on.
battery drain at 6% to 7% per hour standby.
2GB Class 2 (nokia):
avg 6 mA current during screen off.
avg 350 mA when on.
battery drain at 1% per hour standby.
4GB Class 10 (transcend):
avg 56 mA current during screen off.
avg 400+ mA when on.
battery drain at 6% to 7% per hour standby.
2GB Class 2 (sandisk):
avg 58 mA current during screen off.
avg 400+ mA when on.
battery drain at 6% to 7% per hour standby.
So my findings so far are that the battery drain IS because of the card you use. It is highly dependent on the amount of current being used during standby. I'm lucky I found the nokia 2GB card and tested it or else I would have used the 4GB Class 10 and come back and said the battery drain is not due to the card. I've seen other threads saying that class 2 will cause heavy drain, which is not the case with my setup.
Whenever I start Android, I kill all processes once. Sometimes, I have to restart Android on the 2GB nokia if I see 60mA current for 5 mins or more of standby.
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Hmm not convinced I'm afraid, because I have Sandisk 16GB Class 2 card running FroyoStone V2 with ChuckyDroid Rom and I see 5-7mA in standby all the time.
creed said:
Hmm not convinced I'm afraid, because I have Sandisk 16GB Class 2 card running FroyoStone V2 with ChuckyDroid Rom and I see 5-7mA in standby all the time.
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And are you getting good battery life with the 5-7mA in standby mode?
It cannot be ROM dependent cause I used the same Android build on different cards with different results.
I really want to use the 16GB card so I can store a lot more data but as of now, my nokia 2GB is the one for me. I'll keep testing other cards that I can get hold of.
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That's verry interesting !
gues i'll buy a smaller card then.
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Well, the smaller card didn't solve it for me. I tried with two other 2GB cards but the nokia one was the one that worked. The other 2GB cards resulted in the same 55 to 60 mA current on standby resulting in high discharge.
So you'll have to try several cards... As the member above is getting low current on the 16GB.
Its almost like the "wand chooses the wizard", where you'll have to try several cards to find the right one for your phone.
kcaj32 said:
And are you getting good battery life with the 5-7mA in standby mode?
It cannot be ROM dependent cause I used the same Android build on different cards with different results.
I really want to use the 16GB card so I can store a lot more data but as of now, my nokia 2GB is the one for me. I'll keep testing other cards that I can get hold of.
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Well yeah exactly what I would expect in line with about 6mA current draw. It just eats battery whenever I do anything with the phone though that's the issue for me. Pretty much the same, maybe slightly better than when I ran Winmo.
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Hello Guys i just want to ask you a question, befor when i use Nokia Phones with Symbian OS for a few years i know with sure for example when you have more installed APPs on the SD Card and more Data like Pictures Music ETC.. More DATA mean that your battery will be dryed faster no matter that some of the DATA just stay in the CARD without to be used, this is how it is with Symbian OS
Now i think its posible to be the same for All Smarphones i mean
If you have for example SD Card 8 GB and the card is full with Data and you have 8GB on her your battery will drayn faster no matter do u use all DATA or not often, in this case if you have less DATA and you SD card is almost FREE your battery must to be better.
This is how it is with Symbian i want to ask some peoples who know tha answer do they think is the same here with HTC and our Blackstones?
Well got 8GB card and 35 MB left - my battery lasts with light usage from 5 to 7 days so I think the answer is NO
kremator said:
Well got 8GB card and 35 MB left - my battery lasts with light usage from 5 to 7 days so I think the answer is NO
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wonderful.. if my battery lasts 3 days it's a miracle!!!!
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Well got 8GB card and 35 MB left - my battery lasts with light usage from 5 to 7 days so I think the answer is NO
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What Radio and what ROM are you using? for 1st time i hear someone with Blackstone to have 5 to 7 days Battery?!?!? WOW
I saw its TOPIX 6.1 but witch Build Exactly ?! date?
Look at my signature or into my post - three posts lower under Yours
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Well got 8GB card and 35 MB left - my battery lasts with light usage from 5 to 7 days so I think the answer is NO
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my battery does not lasts for a day
You can get the stock battery to last 18 days or something in standby and no other use with a new battery (so, only phone on). If your phone doesn't last 5+ days with little to no use then it's probably time for a replacement battery. With heavy use it will last about 15hrs. And it's best to not let the battery drop below 15% or go over 90% when charging to keep it working nicely for longer.
ALL depends from the usage like you say in stand by mode for 24 hrs i don`t lose 1% so someone can say my battery is up 10 days yes if you don`t use your phone its posible.
For example now my battery is up 3 days and i have 25% left BUT
I i use WiFi watch youtube, play games, watch pictures.. play with the phone, recive alot of calls and etc restart it around 10 times because i do some regystri tweaks and etc so i think its normal to handle 2 days with serious usage.. also i think that the RESTAR drain much from your battery
i make about 15 - 20 min calls
check my mail about 10 - 15 times (using 3G)
sometimes log in msn messenger
play a couple of sudoku or bubble braker games.
Bluetooth & wifi always off
i dont overcharge my battery
How much power drain do you currently have?
Install "CurrentWidget" from marked to see.
Also post your build and running programs.
Me: froyostone v3.1 only taskkill and xda app. 211ma
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That value doesnt work that way .... better would be ...no apps running and then
Standby - ?
On Call - ?
Browsing - ?
... otherwise its fruitless
And the apps running on these readings?
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How do I read the log for standby then? Says permission denied
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Mdeejay revolution 1.4 on NRGZ GTX themed winmo (standard winmo rom not optimized)
Not many apps running that I know of, standard HTC widgets on the pages.
Wifi on shortly for standard usage testing, otherwise just 3G data connection on in standby. 16gb microsd that came with the phone, its a bit slow but seems to work.
Standby: 4 - 6 mA
On Call: Not Tested
General Usage: 150 mA - 350 mA
this thread already exist!
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this thread already exist!
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Settle down buddy...
Those threads weren't the same and for a very different purpose than this one.
This thread (from what I understand) is a place for people to post their setup and their actual usage figures. The ones you linked were about tweaks and optimisation which is not a comparison thread.
The first post could be updated to better reflect and standardise the way users post their figures.
Mattsta said:
Mdeejay revolution 1.4 on NRGZ GTX themed winmo (standard winmo rom not optimized)
Not many apps running that I know of, standard HTC widgets on the pages.
Wifi on shortly for standard usage testing, otherwise just 3G data connection on in standby. 16gb microsd that came with the phone, its a bit slow but seems to work.
Standby: 4 - 6 mA
On Call: Not Tested
General Usage: 150 mA - 350 mA
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hey... i am using the exactly the same rom/android you are using, but my android drains battery [email protected]#$%^& fast, the "android system" uses more battery than display WTF
In standby 1hr 10% gone
how u check standby power usage?
standby - 4 - 11mA
usage - 200 - 500MA
on call - ?
Standby: 2 to 5 mA
On Call: Not Tested
General Usage: 150 mA - 350 mA
Using FroyoStone_Sense_V2 and setcpu interactive profiles. Happy with battery lasting 24 hrs. including browsing and music for around 1 hour.
bountygiver said:
hey... i am using the exactly the same rom/android you are using, but my android drains battery [email protected]#$%^& fast, the "android system" uses more battery than display WTF
In standby 1hr 10% gone
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If you lose 10% battery life in one hour on standby with 3-5 MaH drain, your battery might not be calibrated. Recharge it with the phone off and then delete batterystats.bin in /system/data on the next boot.
The main reason I throttled my processor down to 384 mhz to get 100-350 mah is so that I can surf the web for 5-8 hours a day without having to recharge. No noticeable lag except with animations.
Any thoughts?
I said same setup, not same battery drain.
Now I have followed all guides and my current drain is 60mA, still far away from 11mA
Share some settings?
I've been frustrated with the inconsistency of the battery life on HD2 WP7, when with the same settings you get dramatically different results on different days.
However, I am pleased to announce that I was able to get 4 (FOUR!) full days of battery life on 1 charge from my phone this week. Admittedly, it was on light use, however, during this time the phone was never powered off or connected to a computer. It was mostly on standby (not airplane) mode, with auto backlight on, location on, but wi-fi, data and bluetooth off most of the time.
During these 4 days I did the following things on the phone:
- talked for 1 hour total, using bluetooth st. headset;
- browsed web for 1/2 hour on wi-fi and 3G;
- watched 8-minute YouTube clip;
- with camera: recorded three 2-minute video clips on 720p and took 7 still 5MP pictures with flash off, using SHCameraApp;
- browsed Marketplace for 10 munites, installing 1 app;
- checked emails twice a day;
- played audiobook for total of 40 minutes on speaker and BT st. headset.
Normally I use it more heavily (was getting 2 full days with moderate usage on WM 6.5), but this experiment is encouraging.
I am using Moon Light ROM with 2.15 radio on U.S. T-Mobile, with stock 16 GB class 2 microSD card. I haven't installed any battery-related tweaks. I need to clarify again, that with this ROM and same settings I don't always get same results, and the battery indicator sometimes doesn't show full charge even with green light.
At the start of the experiment, however, the phone was fully charged through USB connection to PC.
wow...4 days is amazing.
ive been saying this for weeks, IF you can get the battery to fully charge its actually fine. almost everyone complaining that it doesnt last very long hasnt fully charged the battery, and i dont blame them for thinking this because everything on the phone is tell you it is charged.
i just used an external charger, got another battery and swap them everytime i run out of juice!
if 4 days is achievable then its ok for everyday use.
i found many people complaining even on native wp 7 phones like htc trophy lasting only a few hours...
so I think its really not HD 2's fault
haksam said:
if 4 days is achievable then its ok for everyday use.
i found many people complaining even on native wp 7 phones like htc trophy lasting only a few hours...
so I think its really not HD 2's fault
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I agree...my friend has an HTC 7 Trophy and the battery acts roughly the same as on my HD2.
same here, battery life is no different for me on 7 than it was for 6.5, something else to note is that for me it will say it's low for 3 or 4 hours at least before finally running out
Barmalei said:
I am using Moon Light ROM with 2.15 radio on U.S. T-Mobile, with stock 16 GB class 2 microSD card. I haven't installed any battery-related tweaks. I need to clarify again, that with this ROM and same settings I don't always get same results, and the battery indicator sometimes doesn't show full charge even with green light.
At the start of the experiment, however, the phone was fully charged through USB connection to PC.
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Does your HD2 do any random reboots using the 16gb class 2 card, because mines was doing that using xbmod
jab12 said:
Does your HD2 do any random reboots using the 16gb class 2 card, because mines was doing that using xbmod
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no point asking questions like that because it doesnt matter what anyone else has, i could buy the exact same card as you have it may work perfectly
no two cards no matter how identical they are, are the same, luck of the draw.
jab12 said:
Does your HD2 do any random reboots using the 16gb class 2 card, because mines was doing that using xbmod
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Yes, I had the random reboots problem at first!
But I completely resolved the problem by flashing the 2.15.50.14 radio.
I wrote a detailed post on that, search for it:
Solution for problems with SD cards and/or random reboots
omarza said:
I agree...my friend has an HTC 7 Trophy and the battery acts roughly the same as on my HD2.
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Bull. And I have a HD2 and Trophy and the Trophy gets at least about 1.5times longer battery..
shoekstra said:
Bull. And I have a HD2 and Trophy and the Trophy gets at least about 1.5times longer battery..
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Unfortunately not all phones act the same do they...even between HD2 you get those with long battery and those with short life span. My friend Trophy does run the same as my HD2. You will notice some users get up to 2 days on their HD2...some struggle to get 12 hours...thus battery lifespan varies...i'm getting roughly 8 hours with heavy usage and over 24 hours with light usage on my HD2. Keep in mind that it does vary between users and consider that before posting bull to someone as the battery lifespan does vary a lot at the moment.
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BTW...what does your Trophy get compared to what my HD2 are giving me. Also I read some peoples HD2 overheats especially while playing games...mine aren't even with playing games a lot on it...maybe I am lucky but I do think somewhere something like SD cards, radio etc does play a role in all of the above.
dazza9075 said:
ive been saying this for weeks, IF you can get the battery to fully charge its actually fine.
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how about switching to android to do the charging and then switch back to wp7 once fully charged? that way we can find some use for our android ;-)
I have two batteries and one is in separate dock that has battery charging at rear and the other battery is in the phone. I charge the phone all night with normal charger plugged into phone and in the morning at about 7am I unplug from charger and go to work, by 2pm to 3pm the phone is flat. I have email sync, bluetooth, WiFi and location on. I then get home at 5 to 6pm and grab battery out of separate charger that has been charging all day and phone will be nearly flat by 11:30pm 12AM.
I also own a HTC Mozart 7 and with all services running the same as the HD2 and the battery time on the Mozart would be double and it has more use with calls.
Can someone explain the "make sure your battery is fully charged" comment that is in this thread?
Update
Here is an update on my original post #1.
There has been exactly 48 hours since I charged my phone (through USB) at the end of the 4-day experiment. This time, after 2 full days, the battery indicator shows about 2/3 (!) of the charge still left.
To be precise, I didn't do much with it during these 2 days, only listened to audiobook on speaker for 20 minutes, manually checked email few times, downloaded attachments, and did some light web browsing for 10 minutes.
Still, I haven't powered it off, and it's been on automatic backlight, so only 1/3 of battery used in 48 hours is a very encouraging sign.
The phone (and battery) is just under a year old, and I have a habit of not charging the phone until the charge is low, so maybe that's a factor, but after switching to WP7 I was having battery problems like many people describe here.
My battery atm is sitting on 66% and it was last charged just over 12 hours ago. I havent spoken much on it today except for 1 call...sent 7 messages and played 4 turns on Spell It since then...thus light usage.
Strange thing is like some mentioned in threads...at the start the battery ran down quick...about 45% during the 1st evening in 8 hours...when not used. Now its lasting ALOT longer...its as if it settles over time.
in my experience it has to do with your data being off.
XBmod-WP7-V1.04b
radio 2.12
4:30--11:30---7h Data-off 3G-off Bat-75%
00:00--9:00---9h Data-off 3G-on Bat-94%
what i mean by make sure your battery is charge is that windows may not charge your battery fully, but it may report your battery as being full, some simple maths should do, if you have a 1Ah charger your battery should only be full around 1.5 hours later depending on usage whilst charging. now most USb ports only pump out 500mAh so again taking in to acount that your phone will be using some of that power to run its self and your looking at around 3 hours charge time
Now sometimes i find that if i charge my phone and then stick the battery in another HD2 running WM6.5 its only about 60-80% charged, i find that inorder to get a full charge without faffing about i need to use an external charger or use another HD2/ROM. if thats not an option then i find restarting and charging, or unplug and charge usually does the trick
Is it true that camcorder on WP7 record in 720p on HD2 of course...?....
titoxperiax10 said:
Is it true that camcorder on WP7 record in 720p on HD2 of course...?....
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yes it is capable
focus works too on the camcorder...shame it doesnt on normal photos but hay ho, such is life
Hi,Everyone!
I have a Qmobile A700 (1GB RAM, Quad-core) running a 4.1 jelly bean stock OS. It is not rooted BTW. The problem I'm facing is that since last couple of days it's charging has been significantly slowed down. Usually charges completely in 1.5hrs but now it takes 12 hours to increase charge by 40%. Also when in use it crashes, just like if you taken the battery out and when tried to turn back on it says only 1% battery remaining, although before crashing it is more than 40%. How can all that charge disappear within a couple of seconds. The only major change I did with the mobile was that a week earlier I replaced its 8GB SD card with a 32GB SD card. It supports SD card upto 32GB. Does that have any relation to this problem? Please help ASAP!! I have tried using all kind of chargers, the charging rate is still slow.
Ali18997 said:
Hi,Everyone!
I have a Qmobile A700 (1GB RAM, Quad-core) running a 4.1 jelly bean stock OS. It is not rooted BTW. The problem I'm facing is that since last couple of days it's charging has been significantly slowed down. Usually charges completely in 1.5hrs but now it takes 12 hours to increase charge by 40%. Also when in use it crashes, just like if you taken the battery out and when tried to turn back on it says only 1% battery remaining, although before crashing it is more than 40%. How can all that charge disappear within a couple of seconds. The only major change I did with the mobile was that a week earlier I replaced its 8GB SD card with a 32GB SD card. It supports SD card upto 32GB. Does that have any relation to this problem? Please help ASAP!! I have tried using all kind of chargers, the charging rate is still slow.
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That sounds to me to be a battery at the end of its life. Having charge % drop that quickly indicates that while the battery still "charges" the amount of energy it stores is far less. My recommendation would be to try and find a new battery from a parts dealer or something like that and swap it yourself. Usually battery swaps are very easy as long as you can figure out how to open up your phone to see the circuit area.
My local Best Buy has the moto X in stock but only the 16 gig version. I was thinking of selling my Nexus 6 and buying it but I was wondering if anyone was having problems with the lack of storage? I know it takes an SD card also but was just curious if you've already run out of space for apps.
I have all my apps installed that I've had previously on my gs4. Still have 4.5gb free space left. All my pictures, videos, podcasts are saved on the external sd. Also, marshmallow will be out soon. It will allow you to install apps on the external sd. For me, personally 16gb is enough, since the device has an sd slot.
Thanks for the reply. The only thing that's scaring me now is the battery life. I'm seeing some things that people are saying they're saying it's awful.
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Thanks for the reply. The only thing that's scaring me now is the battery life. I'm seeing some things that people are saying they're saying it's awful.
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Battery life is "ok". It's not bad, not great. It definitely lasts longer than my gs4. Also, it charges faster than any other phone I've owned.
I haven't had any issues with space, this coming from previously owning phones with only 32gb and above. All my apps installed that I need, and still have around 4gb left. Everything else is stored on the SD card (pics and such). As far as games go, you wouldn't be able to install TOO many large games (like dungeon hunter). But once marshmallow comes out, problem solved.
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Oh yeah. Battery life. I get through an 8 hour work shift without any problems, and come home with around 30% battery life. This is working at a cell store, and being able to use my phone in between customers. (Not just on break)
Bought 16gb variant from Best Buy, then purchased a 128gb SanDisk for $60 on Amazon. Never running out of space >. As for battery life, it is as zender2k said, okay. Turning down the screen resolution down to 1080p has drastically improved my battery life as well as freezing majority of Moto apps in combination with Greenify, Amplify, and Powernap makes drain almost non-existent.
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<snip>...Turning down the screen resolution down to 1080p has drastically improved my battery life as well as freezing majority of Moto apps in combination with Greenify, Amplify, and Powernap makes drain almost non-existent.
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How did you turn down the screen resolution?
crash613 said:
How did you turn down the screen resolution?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/general/increase-battery-life-lowering-screen-t3190234
16gb gives only around 9.xx gb usable i have installed like 50 60 apps and moved to sd and some to sd card still around 4gb left
I think turning down the brightness is the key for longer battery life on MXPE because that QHD screen is a major sucker. Most people don't realize how bright this thing is because our eyes adapt quickly. I run my at 20% brightness indoors and it is still brighter than plenty bright indoors. Outdoors at around 50% I am good.
Another thing is to turn off the "Wake on Approach", and turn off the GPS or put it in battery saver mode, until needed by a specific app like maps. At night, automatically turn off sync, data, bluetooth, NFC and wifi using Automate and you will only burn 2-3% in 8-10hr period.
With simple battery management tricks like that I get around 4 hr SOT with 2-2.5 days (yeah, 60 hours is my record so far) off charger or 5-6 hrs SOT with 1-2 days off the charger. You never need to worry about battery life. And did I tell you, if I charge for 15 minutes with turbo charger from empty, I get around 2 hrs of SOT worth of charge!! Its amazing how well the battery on MXPE works but people have some crazy expectations.