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How's the shutter speed on the camera? My wife loved the iPhone 4G's camera speed but didn't like losing 10 calls a day. We've tried the Captivates but couldn't stand the GPS issues. So.. now we are on the Nexus'. I was looking at the X10 for here because of the 8.1...
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depends on ur photo size, its finne to me when the photo size is 2.0
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what is this 2.0 you speak of? i'm assuming that's a lower setting?
so if you turn it up to the highest resolution it's not fine?
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depends on ur photo size, its finne to me when the photo size is 2.0
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Hello hallfleming,
I have a X10 and i can say about the pics is great in any resolution, the shutter is quicker, but will be quicker after september update (Android 2.1), one of the most normal reasons that a shutter can take longer its cause if you have many stuff in your SD Card can take a little, but that i think its normal in all the phones,
Any other question about X10i that i can help please ask,
Alexandre
P.S: About the GPS lock its quick as 30 seconds locking (if you are not at a place without windows close).
I get gps fix in max 10seconds when outside, i'm truly amazed by this phones gps!
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Btw did you know, our gps is alot more accurated than icrap on high speed? Check youtube for a test on shinkansei train in japan.
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Add the app radar on the market for an even quicker gps lock.
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honestly the x10s camera is amazing.....the quality of the photos are comparable to some cheaper/older point and shoots
And using the Camera 360 app makes the camera better. You can use very low compression on images, getting a sharp details.
Idk what settings does eveyone use for general pictures i get crap quality pics that are blurry
You need some light you know ?
Disable image stabilization (will just make your pictures soft).
Always try to take pictures with sun in the back.
Use EV -3 or -7
Depending on what you shoot play with the metering modes.
When you don't have enough light, you can enable the stabilization.
And again, take some time to play with the metering modes
Best camera phone ive had. I use it in tandem with fuji finepix 12m pixel. Quality is excellent, and thats comin from a proffesional moaner turning 40 soon...
@Tux - Where is the EV setting?? I've just been rummaging around the settings in the camera app and I can't find anything with a range which covers that...
Main screen on the right hand side.. the +/-
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Best camera phone ive had. I use it in tandem with fuji finepix 12m pixel. Quality is excellent, and thats comin from a proffesional moaner turning 40 soon...
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m8 is it possible to get some low light/night images? Can you take some night landscapes, and indoor images just to see night quality of x10. It is really hard to find those. Thanks in advance!
after almost 4000 pics taken with x10, as a camera phone freak, i would say, the camera is pretty fine outside, but crap inside, my favorite settings are "face detection, metering -average, stabillzation OFF, and EV 0 or -0.7
Hi there,
Is there a guide available for the SGS2 camera? i received my device with no guide of the camera and I really want to know about "beauty shot", "action shot" (which im having a hard time getting useful shots with) and "outdoor visibility" which seems to brighten up the screen but not the resulting image.
anyone can shed some light onto those features and maybe post decent "action shots" made by him?
thanks!
Have a read through the attached manual. It does talk about the camera modes that you mentioned, as well as lots of other stuff.
Hope it helps
thanks alot man!
i still would love to see some "action shots though" from other people
"Action shot" just means high shutter speed to freeze action, it's also called "sport mode" on some point 'n squirt cameras... Not always the best way to shoot action actually.
Outdoor visibility is so that you actually have a chance to see the screen when taking pictures in bright sunshine for example, it doesn't change the picture.
I just wish they'd put fully manual controls too, I hate using the pre-set modes...
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Isadora said:
"Action shot" just means high shutter speed to freeze action, it's also called "sport mode" on some point 'n squirt cameras... Not always the best way to shoot action actually.
Outdoor visibility is so that you actually have a chance to see the screen when taking pictures in bright sunshine for example, it doesn't change the picture.
I just wish they'd put fully manual controls too, I hate using the pre-set modes...
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you are not right here my fried.
action shot is some kind of a panoramic shot (am i confusing options here?) that involves the camera tracking an object across a certain area while it is moving.
it also takes a few shots and not just one.
Ok so high shutter speed combined with multiple shots and possibly some kind of focus tracking (though that last bit would surprise me in a phone camera - will check it at some point!) As I've said, I'm not a fan of pre-set modes, they never quite do what I want! I'm a photographer btw so I'm just used to shooting in manual, including motorsport, I'm not sure I even know how to put my cameras in auto lol
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Edit: actually it *is* different to the sports mode (which is under "scenes") - my bad. Not quite proper focus tracking though, you have to follow whatever it is that is moving and then it combines the shots into a single picture quite clever really. Will have to try it for fun though my usual test subjects (the cats!) are asleep right now.
Edit 2: had a play... it's a bit weird you take the first shot, then follow the subject and the camera takes more pictures as and when 1) it has decided that you've moved enough (like with the panorama mode) and 2) thinks that whatever you're following is in focus (it failed a bit on that point tbh). That's what I don't like about auto-stuff... camera decides when it should do something, which isn't necessarily when I want it to do it. It is quite fun though. More testing needed have all day free tomorrow so will do it then
Right, best result so far... Not great tbh, I've found that if the object moves too slowly, pictures don't get taken because the camera doesn't realise it should; if the object moves too fast then the focus is a bit hit and miss. Then when it does manage to do what it should you have the problem of [ insert swear word of choice] auto exposure so in the attached pic you can easily tell where the pictures are joined.
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On default camera application, i seted best qualitu, but images little smooth because jpg commpresion is on high level.
Is there any chance to set commpresion manualy or turn off compression?
Or maybe anybody know another good camera app?
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Manually set compression? Not aware of... Probably if you modify the camera.apk.
Did you tried to remove the back and take pictures without the cover? If there is a huge difference, then remove the plastic covering the lens - I have it like for 6 months now.
Good camera app? Zoom FX, Camera 360 ultimate ect...
Ok, i will try this app. Maybe photos cant be better, because phone is not camera :-/
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I'll try too, thanks!
about the cam app...
you can try "HDR camera" from the markett
there´s a free version with a banner here and there, personally i live with it
it takes 3 pictures and computing the best resolution or something like that..
just remember its a suckysucky cam app for taking pictures of moving objects because of the "3 picture thing" it has..
im just a noob here so i cant upload a picture taken with HDR so you gotta test it out yourself, have a good one!
search a bit around...you have to edit the build prob and set up this..
ro.media.enc.jpeg.quality=100
most roms..should have this inside...like mine hybrid
with kind regards
I was curious about the camera image quality of the shift. My pictures always turn out very noisy and washed out. I have read around and found the same complaints but no answers on improvement. My 1.5mp first gen Sony camera takes a better picture. I have the exact same issues on the stock HTC, other sense roms and CM7 nightly. The quality of the image changes very little. I am looking to get a decently clear picture. I do not expect perfection from a cell phone but when I see the 100% full size picture it's really bad even in on a perfect sunny day. I see the improve image patch that I have not downloaded yet. Is there a camera app that will take a better image ? Is the kernel code for the camera a possibly culprit ?
I know there are a lot of programs like camera 360 but that's not exactly want I am looking for.
It's a little disappointing to have a 5mp camera that is not very good. I could deal with a little washed out color but all the pixelation is what I don't like at the full 5mp resolution when on my computer. Thanks for any responses and help in advance
Richard
Improved image patch?
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Ya, saw it as a suggested thread when I started to type my subject. I have not tried it. I believe it was for the shift
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i was wrong for motorola phone boo !
Are you sure you set the image quality to 5 mp first? I own a really nice 16 mp canon camera, and the shift with 5 mp takes far better pictures, even in bad lighting.
Then again, I rarely take photos, I take videos then remove the frames I want as photos, ensures I always get the picture I want.
yes, it is set at 5mp. I have tried lower ISO and all the tricks but it isn't still blurry and lots of pixelation.
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I was curious about the camera image quality of the shift. My pictures always turn out very noisy and washed out. I have read around and found the same complaints but no answers on improvement. My 1.5mp first gen Sony camera takes a better picture. I have the exact same issues on the stock HTC, other sense roms and CM7 nightly. The quality of the image changes very little. I am looking to get a decently clear picture. I do not expect perfection from a cell phone but when I see the 100% full size picture it's really bad even in on a perfect sunny day. I see the improve image patch that I have not downloaded yet. Is there a camera app that will take a better image ? Is the kernel code for the camera a possibly culprit ?
I know there are a lot of programs like camera 360 but that's not exactly want I am looking for.
It's a little disappointing to have a 5mp camera that is not very good. I could deal with a little washed out color but all the pixelation is what I don't like at the full 5mp resolution when on my computer. Thanks for any responses and help in advance
Richard
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Well THIS article helped me .
Just a login screen
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My shift takes pretty good images...in the right conditions.
Low light conditions almost always produce ruinous pictures. The picture displays huge amounts of noise in these cases. Flash is generally not helpful.
Choosing the ISO manually shows improvement, and I personally prefer the Touch focus mode. When shooting outdoors in daylight, I usually get very nice pictures, particularly if I shoot in 5MP and then downsize them.
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Try the link below instead . Same link only posted different.
http://www.tested.com/news/how-to-take-better-photos-on-your-android-phone/430/
Same thing. Can cut n paste the article? I think I might seen this on androidfourms.com
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I'll try and get it on here for you later
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Thanks
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Here's the article, sorry it took so long
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How To Take Better Photos on Your Android Phone
The cameras keep getting higher in resolution, but there's more to getting good shots than the hardware.
By Ryan Whitwam
| June 14, 2010
.It's become common for even mid-range Android phones to come with some impressive cameras. A five megapixel sensor is usually present in most smartphones, and that means you can get some pretty reasonable point-and-shoot type images. A phone's camera may not be replacing your dedicated camera anytime soon, but you have to work with what you have. If all you have with you is a phone, you might as well maximize the image quality. Android has made some strides in the image capture department in the 2.1 and upcoming 2.2 updates.
Read on as we tell you how to get the most out of your Android phone's camera. The app that comes with the phone is the one most people will inevitably use, but we'll also tell you which third-party apps can add useful functionality.
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]Zooming is something we've all become accustomed to on real cameras. A standalone camera most likely has optical zoom. This enlarges an image by using movable lens elements to vary the focal length. With optical zoom, quality is not lost. With the digital zoom used in phones, you are basically cropping out pixels at the edge and blowing up what's left. The result is a poorer quality image. We recommend not zooming in if at all possible, since you can always crop an image after the fact using desktop software. The only time you should use your camera's zoom is when you have to send that photo off on the phone without any post-cropping.
Stock Android phones running on 2.1 and earlier have access to zoom controls in the form of plus/minus buttons on the screen, but it only moves in steps. In 2.2 Google is adding a zoom slider to the on-screen controls. Camera Pro and Camera Zoom FX can add that functionality now for a few bucks. Sense UI phones have long had access to digital zoom in the camera app. The ease of use depends on the underlying Android software version. On Android 2.1 builds of Sense, users are presented with a large friendly scroll wheel to adjust the zoom.
The zoom option is there if you need it, but we suggest only using it when you have to. Even then, zoom only as much as you have to. Each step you zoom means fewer pixels in the final image. The small images sensors on these phones tend to have more noise than standard cameras, and the more you zoom, the more noticeable that will be.
Flash
Next, you need to keep track of your flash settings. Cell phones use LED flashes, which are nice as they don't use very much power. However, they tend to light a subject more harshly than a more natural-looking Xenon flash on a real camera might (this happens even at a distance).
It's always a good idea to turn the flash off when you don't need it. The stock Android camera app has a tendency to overuse the flash when it is set on auto. If you take a picture in medium light and the flash goes off unexpectedly, try it again with the flash off. We often find the resulting image to be preferable to the one with the flash.
Focusing
What's the good of taking a photo if it isn't going to be in focus? Android phones made early use of autofocus cameras and that means better images. Phones with hardware camera buttons sometimes employ a two-step mechanism like a real camera. That means you can depress the button halfway to focus, then recompose and press it the rest of the way to capture the image. This is helpful in that it can allow you to change up the framing without capturing an image if the focus doesn't look right.
On a phone like the Nexus One without a hardware shutter button, you can get similar functionality. When you press the on-screen shutter button, you can hold your finger there to inspect the focus. If you don't like it, just slide your finger off without removing it from the screen. This will let you try again without taking the image. Similarly, if using a trackball/trackpad as the shutter, depress to focus, and if you wish to abandon the image you can tap the screen.
Sense UI phones have a different trick up their sleeve when it comes to focusing. These phones have tap to focus, a feature we originally saw in the iPhone 3GS. You can tap anywhere in the frame to have the camera autofocus for that spot. This is functionality we have not yet been able to replicate on stock Android phones through apps.
Image size
The next thing to be aware of is what type of image quality you need. The default setting on most phones is maximum quality. That's fine if you intend to take important images to keep. But if you're just taking a snapshot to email to a friend, or send in an MMS, you don't need the highest resolution image.
A full resolution image from an 8MP camera like that in the Incredible or EVO 4G could be well over 1MB. If you're on a non-unlimited data plan, sending a large image via MMS may not be a viable option at all. All the stock apps, as well as third-party camera apps will allow you to change the resolution of the image being captured.
This is also a good idea if you need to take several photos in quick succession. Android can be a little slow to write images to the SD card and prepare for the next shot. By reducing the overall image size, you can get more shots in. This functionality is available from the onscreen controls of all the stock apps. Some third party apps hide this functionality in the settings menu.
Fine tuning
These camera phones are getting closer and closer to being the real thing, as evidenced by the plethora of image effects they can use. Stock Android 2.2 (and Sense UI) and higher phones can take advantage of different exposure settings. The exposure is just the amount of light allowed to hit the image sensor. This can be used to compensate for conditions that are too light or dark, bringing out detail. If you need a flash, but it makes the image a little too bright (common with LED flashes), you can try again with a lower exposure. Change the exposure around while composing a shot. The Android camera will change the preview to approximate chosen exposure. Stock Android 2.1 is unable to alter these values, so you'll have to wait for the 2.2 update.
You can also get better color representation by changing the white balance. The auto setting is usually fine, but we've found Android phones can get confused, especially in low light. This often leaves us with warm, almost orange pictures. If your phone is taking images that look to warm or cold, try setting the white balance to the type of light you're shooting under. You have options like incandescent, daylight, fluorescent, and cloudy.
Sense UI phones (even on 2.1) have all these tweaks and more. HTC has added a number of options to their Android interface that doesn't exist for stock phones. There is an option to change metering mode to spot, center, or average. This controls how the phone samples to determine how to expose the shot. This can be helpful if your subject is lighted differently from the rest of the shot. We find this useful for times when we're taking a backlit shot.
Sense UI also builds in ISO settings. ISO is basically how sensitive the image sensor is to light. A higher ISO will allow you to capture motion better, but the image will be grainier. The sensors on phones tend to handle motion pretty poorly, so this is a nice addition on HTC's part. We haven't found any apps that allow stock Android to do any of this either. Camera 360 is a new app with some fun filters, and it offers an ISO option, but we found it did not work on stock Android 2.1 or 2.2. It seems HTC rolled their own code for this.
With a little thought, you can capture completely respectable images with your Android phone. We feel that the most important first step is setting up the shot correctly. You have to evaluate if you need the flash on or not, and if you can avoid zooming. Make sure to examine the preview after your handset focuses before you take the image. In our experience, the stock apps that come with your phone will do nearly everything you need.
Most of the third party apps don't add much functionality beyond some effect filters. The only exception may be timer and timer and burst mode, which you can get from an app like Camera Zoom FX. Sense phones, of course, have this built in. Do you have any camera tips for Android? Any apps you've found that bring something meaningful to the experience?
Thanks this helps
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I don't get it, every single picture I take is blurry and very noisy no matter what. You can not tell until you see the full resolution size 2592x1936. I don't need to save all pictures this size but I do a lot of cycling events that I would like to take good pictures at. My hope was to be able to have some nice larger photos to print . It would save me from buying a DC. I have noticed that older pictures before my rom flash are the same way.
The camera on my 3yr old crappy ATT samsung took clear pictures.Some were a little noisy because of lighting but not near as bad as this .
I am starting to wonder if my sensor is defective or my lens is scratched . I would attach a picture but the restrictions here would not allow it. Thanks for the help again. I guess I am SOL
What Rom are you on?
I have another camera related question. I have the CM7 nightly, my camera always freezed when I am waiting for a next shoot for too long, I have to take out the battery to reboot. Can anyone give some advices.
I am using cm7 nightlies. I have tried all roms with the sane results . As for the other question, did u format data,system, cache and dalvik cache( spelling) ?
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I recently saw an ad on TV for the camera and it says you can take pictures of fast moving objects and have no blur. Every picture I take with a moving object comes back with a blur. Any ideas? What's the best shooting mode? I took the attached photo with sports mode and didn't change any of the settings.
Try sports mode, if that ain't helping, take the ISO off of auto, mess around with it, helped a lot for me.
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I'm wondering as well. Sport mode still doesn't capture even slow moving objects
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Nothing I've found will stop that. Different camera apps will at least blur instead of ghosting.
Try super camera. Lower the exposure time to- 12. Will improve blur but lower love light performance
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These are pics with my kids jumping around and going crazy.
First one is exposure at +12
Second is exposure at default
3rd us at- 12.
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I recently saw an ad on TV for the camera and it says you can take pictures of fast moving objects and have no blur. Every picture I take with a moving object comes back with a blur. Any ideas? What's the best shooting mode? I took the attached photo with sports mode and didn't change any of the settings.
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Sports mode or setting ISO1600 are your only real options.
Taking a sharp, indoor picture with anything shy of a dedicated (and expensive) camera is a pipe dream.
For reference, I have a Sony NEX-6 and 50mm f/1.8 lens. This combo goes for around $1000. I can shoot ISO6400 and f/1.8. Indoors, that will usually do the trick, but it isn't guaranteed.
I also have a Sony RX100 (best point and shoot you can by). Again, even at ISO6400 and the largest aperture possible, it's going to be tough to capture fast movement indoors.
The commercials are stupid and misleading. Sorry guys.
I second lattiboy's post.
I own a Nikon D7100, even with a premium lense with F/1.4, indoors you need to raise the ISO to get atleast 1/125 to start freezing motion.
You are expecting the unreal.
Thanks for the replies. I'll try a different app and keep messing around with it. I'm not expecting top notch pics, but if they advertise it they should live up to it.
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I second lattiboy's post.
I own a Nikon D7100, even with a premium lense with F/1.4, indoors you need to raise the ISO to get atleast 1/125 to start freezing motion.
You are expecting the unreal.
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...or a Xenon flash...
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...or a Xenon flash...
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A Xenon flash will only light up the foreground. Flash is something that should be used only if you really have to... Or you can put up multiple flashes. Then you mess up the white balance
Perfectly adequate for loads of situations. I'd take broken white balance vs a completely blurred and unusable pic
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