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Hi everyone so I've had my evo for about 2 weeks now I slightly see some light were some people have had real big issues should I be worried...i mean you really have to be looking for it..i didn't even know wheee thee light was coming through.also at the bottom of the screen if you tilt the phone I can see the light from the menu buttons is this normal?
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I think its normal, mine does it. I watched unboxing and reviews of EVOs on YouTube and it was pointed on on them too. I have a rubber around mine so the light leak is covered. I can also see the light leds if I turn the phone and look down from the screen. Its an obvious design flaw, im surprised they let it go like that.
Normal.
I was about to go to sprint store for a exchange and also saw YouTube ones shown had same problems. I guess It's normal for HTC products...
Just hope dust going into it end up inside the lcd.
Doesn't bother me...
Yep I have some light leakage too on the bottom. It's normal...
phatmanxxl said:
I think its normal, mine does it. I watched unboxing and reviews of EVOs on YouTube and it was pointed on on them too. I have a rubber around mine so the light leak is covered. I can also see the light leds if I turn the phone and look down from the screen. Its an obvious design flaw, im surprised they let it go like that.
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Me too its not that distracting I don't hold my phone at an angle that often.
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I think all,the evos are like this
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Blitzpwnage said:
Me too its not that distracting I don't hold my phone at an angle that often.
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Lol neither do I. It dosent bother me.
So, I stumbled across something really cool (quite) a few minutes ago: apparently our devices really can power a few pixels selectively. In my accidental confirmation of Samsung's claim, I was able to get one of NoLED's notification icons to show on the screen without lighting up the rest of the black area for literally a split second.
Here's how:
1. You will need the app "NoLED" in order to continue. In the NoLED settings, make sure you have the icon for sms activated as well as the proximity sensor. My sms icon is set to a lime green, but I doubt that will affect this "test."
2. Send yourself a text message either from your own phone or from some other sms capable device. If sending it to yourself from your own phone, quickly lock the device using the power button after pushing send.
3. Allow NoLED to start flashing around the icon for sms. Wait roughly 5 seconds for the proximity sensor to activate.
4. For steps 4 and 5, it would be wise to be in a completely dark room to be able to more easily tell the difference between the true black and the lit black. With the proximity sensor now active, place your finger over it. The screen should turn off.
5. Now, upon removing your finger pay close attention to the icon that will appear. The icon will show up a couple of milliseconds before the rest of the screen activates.
6. Repeat steps 4 and 5 if needed to witness the true black.
This is proof that our SAMOLED screens can display true black.
I am not a developer so I have no idea how to act upon this find to, if possible, adjust settings in the our software to allow true black.
If you happen to know someone who is capable of modifying the kernels or ROMs for our devices to allow this behavior, then by all means have them follow the above steps to see the proof.
Though I hope this minor find can give someone the inspiration and/or start place needed to make these adjustments, I realize this is but a pebble in a world of boulders. Therefore, I remain skeptical and strongly advise others not to get your hopes up.
If anything, it is at least nice to see that Samsung wasn't just lying about the capabilities of SAMOLED screens, but also makes one wonder why they don't allow true black from the start.
Now, time to hit the hay.
Goodnight all.
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On the epic, when you power it up to the initial "galaxy s" screen, you can see true black...the fascinate doesn't have that opening animation?
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On the epic, when you power it up to the initial "galaxy s" screen, you can see true black...the fascinate doesn't have that opening animation?
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It probably did at one point but since I changed kernels and boot animations trying to get rid of verizon crap that animation doesn't show up anymore, which sucks cause I actually liked that one.
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When i power the device off in a dark room, at the end of the power off cycle I get a black screen that isn't black like the other black screens when the phone is on. It looks like it's glowing in the dark or some junk, and you can see a weird pattern like something smudged across the screen.
Is this the type of thing you're talking about? That our devices, when showing black, are actually working to show that black and not just "turning the pixel off" er whatever?
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When i power the device off in a dark room, at the end of the power off cycle I get a black screen that isn't black like the other black screens when the phone is on. It looks like it's glowing in the dark or some junk, and you can see a weird pattern like something smudged across the screen.
Is this the type of thing you're talking about? That our devices, when showing black, are actually working to show that black and not just "turning the pixel off" er whatever?
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Yes, if I'm understanding you correctly that is what I'm talking about. That glowing, almost grey effect shouldn't need to occur in order to show black. I hope it is something that can be hacked, but I don't know.
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I guess this makes me lucky to have 1 pixel stuck on blue. I can easily see the screen turn off in almost any lighting condition.
Couldn't it be that what you're seeing is some kind of residual charge left at power off or some pixels that change states at slightly different rates? I've seen it too and it seems to be a different pattern every time. Also, some of the forums regarding screen burn have talked about samoled break-in so maybe that has an impact as well. Can't factor out power supply leakage either, I guess.
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Couldn't it be that what you're seeing is some kind of residual charge left at power off or some pixels that change states at slightly different rates? I've seen it too and it seems to be a different pattern every time. Also, some of the forums regarding screen burn have talked about samoled break-in so maybe that has an impact as well. Can't factor out power supply leakage either, I guess.
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It is true all of those things could be probable, but in order to prove that the pixels aren't turning off you could disable the lock and screen dimming functions with an app and display a black image. Then in low light conditions you could easily see the blacks are actually a very dark shade of grey. If the pixels were turning off the image would over time obtain deeper blacks as the residual charge runs out.
I, and many others, suspect the phones are programmed to not turn off the pixels. Only question is, why? The only thing this type of test wouldn't be able to prove or disprove is power supply leakage.
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I guess this makes me lucky to have 1 pixel stuck on blue. I can easily see the screen turn off in almost any lighting condition.
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That sucks to have a stuck pixel! Have you tried having the phone replaced? I don't know for sure but a stuck pixel might fall in the manufacturer defect category, so you might be able to have the phone swapped for free?
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Or you can go and download Screen Test and get to the black screen part of the test. It is so hard to notice, but blacks are ever so slightly lighter than if you were to turn the screen off, but it is really hard to catch. Either way, they trump any LCD black levels. They even make my Panny plasma look bad
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Or you can go and download Screen Test and get to the black screen part of the test. It is so hard to notice, but blacks are ever so slightly lighter than if you were to turn the screen off, but it is really hard to catch. Either way, they trump any LCD black levels. They even make my Panny plasma look bad
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Didn't know about that app but I'm sure it would work just as you say. And by the way that would be much easier to notice if you were in complete darkness. I'm completely satisfied with these amazing screens, but it would be awesome if we could obtain true black.
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Didn't know about that app but I'm sure it would work just as you say. And by the way that would be much easier to notice if you were in complete darkness. I'm completely satisfied with these amazing screens, but it would be awesome if we could obtain true black.
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I HAVE tested it in darkness. It is just such a small difference most people's eyes probably couldn't even pick up on it. Blacks are pretty black on this.
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That sucks to have a stuck pixel! Have you tried having the phone replaced? I don't know for sure but a stuck pixel might fall in the manufacturer defect category, so you might be able to have the phone swapped for free?
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It's only one and it's on the side, it does work sometimes. I use noled and it seams to come on at the exact same time as the notifications. Cover the proc sensor and it turns off.
Have you tried jscreenfix from the market? It's free and alot of feedback suggests it can work on stuck pixels.
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I HAVE tested it in darkness. It is just such a small difference most people's eyes probably couldn't even pick up on it. Blacks are pretty black on this.
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Calm down man, was just a suggestion lol. But that's interesting, considering mine is extremely noticible in darkness even with the brightness turned all the way down. I suppose each phone would behave differently in this respect though.
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It's only one and it's on the side, it does work sometimes. I use noled and it seams to come on at the exact same time as the notifications. Cover the proc sensor and it turns off.
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Well I guess that isn't too bad, hopefully it isn't a sign of things to come. Back when I had my Storm 1, I had a red stuck pixel. It wasn't too bad either until it started spreading a few months later. That's okay though, I was one of the lucky ones who got a Storm 2 as a replacement from Verizon. If you havent, you should definitely try that app mentioned above though.
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Yep I tried that app. I kind of like it now, maybe I will name it lol. I will save it for later, if I scratch the screen or something It will give me an excuse to get a new phone
Is there a setting for home button being dimmed. My home buttons are very dim. I dont wanna have to return again for this.
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I'm not aware of any setting. The Nexus S button backlight is significantly dimmer than that on the other Galaxy S phones, though. That's not a defect, it's part of the device's design.
I like the fact that they are dim, they're not distracting. I've never had a problem seeing them either
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I think there is a hardware issue with the lights. Mine arealso quite dim, and I've seen several phones that had them both dim and much brighter, all straight out of the box.
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The two I've played with (including the one I own) both had a dim backlight. If there are phones with a brighter backlight, I'm glad I don't have one. The backlight on my Vibrant hurt my eyes when I was using it at night. Now if only the screen brightness went lower so I could stop using Screen Filter...
maybe they are only using one LED to lit the whole thing vs. 2 ore more used on the SGS ?
to save battery power?
that's just my guess, we wont know for sure until we take one apart
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maybe they are only using one LED to lit the whole thing vs. 2 ore more used on the SGS ?
to save battery power?
that's just my guess, we wont know for sure until we take one apart
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I can tell you without taking it apart.
There is one LED for every key. (total of 4)
How I know this?
Press just in a corner or any of the four keys (back, menu, search or home) and you will see it get dimmer (almost off) individually from all others.
I'd rather mine to lit up bright so is this something where bestbuy will replace it.
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They'll probably replace it as many times as you want as long as it's in like-new condition. But I doubt any new one you get will be different.
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I'd rather mine to lit up bright so is this something where bestbuy will replace it.
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I'd rather mine cook me dinner, but it wasn't made that way...
sosasami said:
I think there is a hardware issue with the lights. Mine arealso quite dim, and I've seen several phones that had them both dim and much brighter, all straight out of the box.
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Sorry to bring this thread back from the dead, however it is true that some Nexus S devices have brighter softkeys than others.
I bought my Nexus S a couple weeks ago (Rogers) form FutureShop. The led backlighting on the soft keys are dim. My girlfriend got hers yesterday. The lights are bright.
My room mate also has a Nexus S and her lights are bright as well. I went to Futureshop to see what they would say. The guy at the counter agreed he has seen the same thing on various Nexus S devices. Some with brighter buttons than others. It might just depends where the device was made (what factory) etc. and what leds were used.
The phone is not defective, however, personally, I prefer the brighter backlight.
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Is there a setting for home button being dimmed. My home buttons are very dim. I dont wanna have to return again for this.
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I think this might be of some help to you - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1141233
I would have to agree this was by design. The buttons are just light enough to make an faint but elegant appearance in fluorescent lighting, and dim enough as to where when using the phone in a dark room the buttons aren't so bright they distract you from the screen (aka the content).
Same for me...and it's driving me crazy
I love the Nexus S (using it on Rogers here in Canada), but the dimness of the soft keys is very disappointing and making the phone difficult to use at all times of day, but of course particularly at nighttime.
I have checked with Rogers, Samsung and Android Central and nobody knew of any solution, so I'm happy to see this thread to learn it's not only me, and I didn't get a bad unit (Rogers told me to send it for repair, of course, because they didn't want to actually pick up a phone to see if they are all like this).
My phone recently did an auto-update to 2.3.6, but I don't seem to remember the buttons being brighter even prior to the update.
So does anyone here think this could potentially be fixed through a firmware update at a later time or is it really a hardware issue? I must add that this is particularly annoying to me because I also have two HTC phones and their soft keys are *brilliant*.
Thanks, everyone!
rashad1 said:
I like the fact that they are dim, they're not distracting. I've never had a problem seeing them either
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Agreed... They're only 4 buttons and the only time I cant easily see them is in the middle of the day when i'm outside. It really helps the device and makes it look good with the blacked out design.
Seriously, you'd have to be senile to not have the muscle memory to hit the buttons as they are... You shouldn't even need a light on then to be honest
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It's definitely by design and not defective.
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I think this might be of some help to you - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1141233
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Thanks but it's not worth all that effort for me.
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It's definitely by design and not defective
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Shame, IMHO. Thanks for the response.
Anyone but me have this problem?
Haven't checked... and not going to do either.... as it's a non issue in normal usage (i'm seldom staring at a completely white screen just to see that the status bar area has aged the screen differently) and a "feature" of amoled technology
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It's there on most colors! I took white cause it is easier to see on a photo but it is there all the time! I'm not retarded!
And the worst part is that the little part that is whiter is the only part that is really sharp like it used to be, while the rest of the screen never is really white and sharp but instead has an uneven yellowish color. And it is worse than I could capture on photo.
I love my phone im not trying to mock it.
I'm not even gonna check
Because if I do, I'll notice it every single time I use the phone, and it'll annoy me to death.
If you don't see it you don't have it. It's there all the time. Of course it's only in games or reading stuff that is full screen. But anything except the black status bar!
Ditto problem.
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@marber45 I've observed the same thing a few weeks ago. I think already many SGS2's displays are suffering of this
I have this problem
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I noticed it just days before you made the post, interesting timing.
Hi All,
came across this thread when looking for a solution for SGS1.
it seems that Burn in is indeed a problem for AMOLED screens.
in my situation, I've found a burn cause by Waze (of course, any app that would leave the screen on would cause it).
sadly enough, my phone is only 6 months old and I use Waze ~30 min. a day - not much for a burn you think? wrong!
for now, I've set Waze to hide the point bar and the zoom control, but still many objects on the screen are static - including the notification bar.
does anyone has a good solution?
Same problem!
But in reality it is not a real problem..
AMOLED is still not ready for prime time, but at least Samsung is trying to improve on it with every iteration. Can't wait for 40"+ AMOLED HD TVs.
Before waranty goes off demand to change display..
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Hey there, might be interesting to know on which built your phone is operating?
Mine was delivered in may w/ 2.3.3, since I'm on a 2.3.5 based rom, I got better colors / sharpness and less side effects (greenish tint)
Maybe Samsung changed the way how to control the display? (hardware drivers)
just my 2 cents..
Yes
Just changed the screen last month
Now its ok
Dunno if it will be burned again
Also dunno what caused it
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Karpfenhai said:
Hey there, might be interesting to know on which built your phone is operating?
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Irrelevant. It's an AMOLED hardware-related thing, nothing to do with software. My screen has burn-in, your screen has/will, every screen does/will.
When somebody says their screen has none they just don't see it. Because really, all our phones one day or later will show it.
I don't use any apps that ever hide the status bar so even if I did have it, it wouldn't bother me.
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My notification area is a bit darker than the rest of my screen. It's only visible when screen is white, and I can't identify any leftovers from any icons like the battery or Wifi icon.
My SGS2 is about ½ year old, and in daily use it's no problem at all, but I wonder how it will look when my SGS2 is 1 or 2 years old
Update... Check this out.
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Update... Check this out.
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What do you want us to loook for ???
Hey guys I'm sue most if not all our you know about the black ink marks with the SGS III. I was wondering if it would be a good idea to take the phone back and get a new one but now I'm not sure because I hear that almost all the SGS III handsets have them. How many of you have taken yours back and was it worth it?
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jvjidNite said:
Hey guys I'm sue most if not all our you know about the black ink marks with the SGS III. I was wondering if it would be a good idea to take the phone back and get a new one but now I'm not sure because I hear that almost all the SGS III handsets have them. How many of you have taken yours back and was it worth it?
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Sorry, I've seen pictures but I really don't know how to find out if i have them.
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Sorry, I've seen pictures but I really don't know how to find out if i have them.
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You can only see them when it's dark. At first I didn't think it would be a big deal but last night I opened my message app and I could clearly see them.
Edit: has to be a black background.
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I have none at all. I used the texting app and andftp.
I didn't have any on mine, though waiting now on my new ordered phone.
Hmm well I'm going to be exchanging mine in a few days.
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I noticed a couple on mine, but they really are only noticeable in total darkness on a black background. If they get worse I'll consider getting it replaced, but its such a minor issue, it doesn't seem worth the hassle of a replacement.
The screen is amazing compared to my OG Epic.
They are "normal" for amoled screens. Ive had about 12 razr/razr maxx and everyone had it to a certain extent. They never got worse. As long as you dont have the black line running top to bottom you should be fine.
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I don't look for stuff like this. I just did and don't see anything.
can you describe these black lines? I haven't noticed it on my phone just yet...but I dont knwo what im looking for?
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Sorry, I've seen pictures but I really don't know how to find out if i have them.
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Try using this background turn off the lights and see if you can spot the splotches.
http://db.tt/xexCOitH
Here's how to test:
1) Download Display Tester, Go to Colors, then Dead Pixel.
2) Swipe the screen to the black color Page.
3) Go into a dark closet and look for anything weird on the screen.
I'm pretty sure that everyone who posted here will not have a perfect screen.
I have a couple but never notice them unless the screen is super dark...not too worried unless I notice them under normal conditions.
Here's an idea; if you have to test for something under extremely particular circumstances and don't notice it otherwise maybe you shouldn't go looking for a reason to make yourself unhappy.
Just a thought.
If you stand on a chair holding the phone at 37 degree angle while watching a specific Nickelback video and get a weird tint...don't do it?
kronium said:
Here's how to test:
1) Download Display Tester, Go to Colors, then Dead Pixel.
2) Swipe the screen to the black color Page.
3) Go into a dark closet and look for anything weird on the screen.
I'm pretty sure that everyone who posted here will not have a perfect screen.
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I downloaded display tester and didn't see anything weird at all on my phone's screen. All the colors were smooth and even with no spotting.
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I noticed a few splotches on day one, but just now after looking at the almost black test image I couldn't see anything at any angle or lighting conditions. Is it possible that this goes away over some time?
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i have 2 lines that are about 3x1mm....I cant even notice it unless I really really look for it
Becoming said:
Here's an idea; if you have to test for something under extremely particular circumstances and don't notice it otherwise maybe you shouldn't go looking for a reason to make yourself unhappy.
Just a thought.
If you stand on a chair holding the phone at 37 degree angle while watching a specific Nickelback video and get a weird tint...don't do it?
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If you ever watch a dark movie, you will notice it. It can be irritating to say the least.
Becoming said:
Here's an idea; if you have to test for something under extremely particular circumstances and don't notice it otherwise maybe you shouldn't go looking for a reason to make yourself unhappy.
Just a thought.
If you stand on a chair holding the phone at 37 degree angle while watching a specific Nickelback video and get a weird tint...don't do it?
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I wasn't looking for them. I didn't even know they existed. I actually noticed them one night when I was texting. It sucks that some have them and some don't... I would like to be one of the few that doesn't if you know what I mean
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Yeah, I can definitely understand being irritated if you see it during normal use, it just seems like some people (big thread on this in the international section too) go looking for it. Personally unless if actually seen it during my normal usage I'd never go looking for some flaw that I'd then always know was there.
That was what I was getting at, just to clarify.