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Hey guys.
As you already know, official Galaxy S Gingerbread ROM released.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009177
That means we've got a "Gingerbread ROM with Touchwiz UI" !
So let's encourage developers to port it to Nexus S
That would be soooo awesome, but at this point the MT3G has more development than the Nexus...they even have honeycomb.
this topic made me smile .. Before the nexus s I owned a galaxy s .. lots and lots of people there want an aosp looking rom and want to get rid of touchwiz asap .. And now I ahve a nexus S with the aosp I have been wanting for so long and see a topic requesting touch wiz
Bandis710 said:
this topic made me smile .. Before the nexus s I owned a galaxy s .. lots and lots of people there want an aosp looking rom and want to get rid of touchwiz asap .. And now I ahve a nexus S with the aosp I have been wanting for so long and see a topic requesting touch wiz
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Same here. Go figure...
However, CM7 already has all it takes to make your phone look a lot like TouchWiz. It has the statusbar widgets, and the launcher can be customized to look a great deal like it. Is it the home widgets? Cause I'm sure there must be plenty of alternatives in the Market.
Heck, CM7 + ADW is even far more customizable. I don't see a reason why anyone would need TouchWiz at this point.
the reason people sold their Galaxy S to nexus S is because of the stupid touch wiz. and you want people to bring it ? i hate you from my heart
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Same here. Go figure...
However, CM7 already has all it takes to make your phone look a lot like TouchWiz. It has the statusbar widgets, and the launcher can be customized to look a great deal like it. Is it the home widgets? Cause I'm sure there must be plenty of alternatives in the Market.
Heck, CM7 + ADW is even far more customizable. I don't see a reason why anyone would need TouchWiz at this point.
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TW apps(camera, calendar, music player, video player), codecs...the launcher isn't a reason why people would want it imo.
ll_l_x_l_ll said:
the reason people sold their Galaxy S to nexus S is because of the stupid touch wiz. and you want people to bring it ? i hate you from my heart
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I didn't, all this great hardware with crap apps to use. Doesn't even have zoom in the camera let alone 720p video recording.
ll_l_x_l_ll said:
the reason people sold their Galaxy S to nexus S is because of the stupid touch wiz. and you want people to bring it ? i hate you from my heart
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Pretty sure it was because of gps..
Which still looks weak in the nexus
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Pretty sure it was because of gps..
Which still looks weak in the nexus
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Pretty sure it was Samsung's incompetence of releasing Android 2.2 in a timely fashion and ROMs basing off Samsung internal leaks with kernels that weren't open-sourced.
I personally don't care if someone ports TouchWiz. If they do, then great. I won't be using it but trying it out to play around with. There's a difference between requesting and something actually being done.
I would definitely like to have the choice of trying out Gingerbread TouchWiz. I've noticed that the Nexus S doesn't really have as much roms as I thought it would have. Maybe its because 2.3 is the latest software and it would defeat the purpose of putting 2.2 sense, 2.2 blur etc or its simply the fact that devs are holding out for dual core and quad core phones.
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I would definitely like to have the choice of trying out Gingerbread TouchWiz. I've noticed that the Nexus S doesn't really have as much roms as I thought it would have. Maybe its because 2.3 is the latest software and it would defeat the purpose of putting 2.2 sense, 2.2 blur etc or its simply the fact that devs are holding out for dual core and quad core phones.
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Most likely because of 2.2 and 2.3. Porting another FrameWork takes a lot of work. It's not that easy to do especially to get it working as a daily driver
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I would definitely like to have the choice of trying out Gingerbread TouchWiz. I've noticed that the Nexus S doesn't really have as much roms as I thought it would have. Maybe its because 2.3 is the latest software and it would defeat the purpose of putting 2.2 sense, 2.2 blur etc or its simply the fact that devs are holding out for dual core and quad core phones.
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Most people are obsessed with speed and latest and greatest, not what offers the most. They say TouchWiz is buggy but so is Gingerbread...obviously I could go on and on.
Why is there so much hostility with reference to Nexus S and development? Why do people consider the Nexus S inferior and not worthy of ROM development? It's a phone, people own it. If all you do is bash the phone and the community, what is your endgame? I say, the more ROMs the better, no matter what they are. And if development dies because of lack of interest, so be it, but let the natural course of the device play out.
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Pretty sure it was Samsung's incompetence of releasing Android 2.2 in a timely fashion and ROMs basing off Samsung internal leaks with kernels that weren't open-sourced.
I personally don't care if someone ports TouchWiz. If they do, then great. I won't be using it but trying it out to play around with. There's a difference between requesting and something actually being done.
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That's not the issue anymore will those roms. Not to mention the only leg nexus has up the captivate is nfc and vanilla android. I like the touchwiz icons, maybe it is because i also use an iphone 4, but those stock app icons make me want to scream
And judging from the 2.3.3 has bricked my gps thread, i am getting less and less excited about owning a nexus s once it arrives with 850mhz 3g bands. Looks like samsung still cant get the gps right..now to see if they did something to the gs2.
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That's not the issue anymore will those roms. Not to mention the only leg nexus has up the captivate is nfc and vanilla android. I like the touchwiz icons, maybe it is because i also use an iphone 4, but those stock app icons make me want to scream
And judging from the 2.3.3 has bricked my gps thread, i am getting less and less excited about owning a nexus s once it arrives with 850mhz 3g bands. Looks like samsung still cant get the gps right..now to see if they did something to the gs2.
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I don't know what you've heard but GPS works perfectly for me...
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Heck, CM7 + ADW is even far more customizable. I don't see a reason why anyone would need TouchWiz at this point.
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I couldn't find a Touchwiz like CM7 theme? Is there any?
ll_l_x_l_ll said:
the reason people sold their Galaxy S to nexus S is because of the stupid touch wiz. and you want people to bring it ? i hate you from my heart
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Because I'm bored with default Android. I just want to try different things.
And yes Touchwiz is stupid, I hate it when I first saw that, especially lock-screen. But theme looks great.
the only think i'll be looking forward in a port from SGS to SNS are the mkv codecs and hardware play
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That's not the issue anymore will those roms. Not to mention the only leg nexus has up the captivate is nfc and vanilla android. I like the touchwiz icons, maybe it is because i also use an iphone 4, but those stock app icons make me want to scream
And judging from the 2.3.3 has bricked my gps thread, i am getting less and less excited about owning a nexus s once it arrives with 850mhz 3g bands. Looks like samsung still cant get the gps right..now to see if they did something to the gs2.
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Try the MIUI rom I think it's the rom that you're looking for.
@allgamer: in cm7 the hardware encoding actually works. 720p I smooth but no audio is being outputted. That's the only thing that needs to be fixed. Regular videos are fine.
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ll_l_x_l_ll said:
the reason people sold their Galaxy S to nexus S is because of the stupid touch wiz. and you want people to bring it ? i hate you from my heart
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The only reason I hated TouchWiz was because of bloatware, and Samsung's closed source issue which hindered development. Other than that, the UI looks great to me. The blue accents are nice and is easier to view than the gloomy green of the NS. Codecs are a major plus. The launcher is acceptable. My reason for moving to the NS is for CM7 as well as Google updates. Therefore, I'm all for porting the Galaxy S Gingerbread ROM.
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Try the MIUI rom I think it's the rom that you're looking for.
@allgamer: in cm7 the hardware encoding actually works. 720p I smooth but no audio is being outputted. That's the only thing that needs to be fixed. Regular videos are fine.
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that's great news! as that's the only thing that is really missing on the Nexus S at this point
being able to play back with hardware instead of software codec
I think it looks atrocious on their phones, but..... What they are showing on the GT doesn't look bad at all. I've so much empty real estate on my homescreens anyhow due to there not being all that many widgets available anyhow and just like my phone, I like easy access to info. I've no problem giving it a try on the tab and seeing how it is. Not to mention, whatever custom apps Samsung has been working on in the meantime.
I'm not one of those people that like barebones Android anyhow. Sure, I wish skins weren't so obtrusive so they didn't slow down updates and it would be nice if we could just turn them on or off as needed (I wish it were apps tied back to their kernal or whatever).... Still... I'm excited to see what is coming.
I am. I love the mini app seem pretty usefull with that i can check calander or use calculator while still on the broswer.
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I think it looks atrocious on their phones, but..... What they are showing on the GT doesn't look bad at all. I've so much empty real estate on my homescreens anyhow due to there not being all that many widgets available anyhow and just like my phone, I like easy access to info. I've no problem giving it a try on the tab and seeing how it is. Not to mention, whatever custom apps Samsung has been working on in the meantime.
I'm not one of those people that like barebones Android anyhow. Sure, I wish skins weren't so obtrusive so they didn't slow down updates and it would be nice if we could just turn them on or off as needed (I wish it were apps tied back to their kernal or whatever).... Still... I'm excited to see what is coming.
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i believe people are looking more toward the additions like allshare but yea it doesnt look like it will be too terrible or so we seem to hear
can you link some videos?
No desire for it at all. Samsung (and indeed all manufacturers) should provide these updates via the Android Market, not hardbaked into the firmware, so that people can choose to install them or not. Or at the very least make them optional so that you can simply switch them off in the settings.
I'm actually looking forward to it. I just hope its optimized to run smoothly.
I'm worried it going to bog down the device.
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I'm actually looking forward to it. I just hope its optimized to run smoothly.
I'm worried it going to bog down the device.
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+ 1 I'm thinking this is why it did not ship with touchwiz it probably bogs it down too much.
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I'm not excited about it, I'm more curious than anything about the new touchwiz
SGT 10.1 uplink initiative
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can you link some videos?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj7M1WTiwGo
Hopefully text entry on the browser wont suck. I'm looking forward to it.
Nice...mini application tray looks cool. I also wish if they could improve browser for the current text lag.
Does anyone know if we will have to accept the update? I really kinda like stock Honeycomb
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From what we've been hearing so far from Samsung, Touchwiz will continue to be optional. Hopefully they don't back track on this.
The mini app tray looks cool, but it would be about 10x cooler if there was some kind of API to allow other developers to add to it. Specifically, I'd like to have the full (scientific) calculator available while looking at technical documents at work for example - and it would be nice if I could reply to messages and Facebook chat with out having to stop what I'm doing and load up the facebook app. You could do a lot of cool things to bring the tablet experience to "the next level" so to speak, by creating something between an app and a widget (applet?) that was easily accessible no matter what you were doing.
The mini app tray is a step in the right direction, except I suspect it will be proprietary to Samsung and limited to their implementations - which will likely remain pretty basic and not much more than we've already seen. QuickDesk was sort of a similar idea on our phones, though limited to widgets and it appears that development has stopped after the creator starting charging for it. Glad I didn't buy that one!
Samsung unloaded a source code files for their GTab 10.1.
I'm sure they will unload something like an API for the mini apps tray.
They have a developer website on their webpage specifically for their products.
I look forward to any update whatsoever the keyboard when typing in browser SUCKS!
Samsung had to release the source code for the underlying OS per the licensing agreement. AFAIK they do not have to do this for their launcher or other "enhancements".
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I just hope the addition of touchwiz doesn't delay our firmware updates too much.
I like stock honeycomb but sometimes I kind of find it boring. Touchwiz ads a lot more colors and on the light / bright side but I would rather have boring but smooth than cool but bogged down. Hopefully they find a perfect balance in between.
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cds0699 said:
Does anyone know if we will have to accept the update? I really kinda like stock Honeycomb
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Mid July mostly !
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj7M1WTiwGo
Hopefully text entry on the browser wont suck. I'm looking forward to it.
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I tested a TEST version of touchwiz on tab 10.1, there was lag when using stock honeycomb keyboard, which did get better when I used the samsung keyboard. the overall user ex. did lag and slow down, I also immdiately used what appeared to be an RC or Final of the TouchWiz (more inclined to RC) was quite smooth - the lags were almost not present, but still not down to stock honeycomb speed !
I hope that they fix the kb lag in the browser.
I'm looking forward to it. My home screen is too empty..
Hello everyone. Just wanted to say hey and introduce myself. I just picked up my very first Android device, a galaxy s 2 (att). I'm coming from a long generation of iPhone and ios devices so this is a big deal for me. I'm still a huge apple fan and still carry my iPhone 4 but I'm not one of the closed minded ones. Apparently I joined this forum a long time ago but never participated but I'm back for sure this time. Being since this is my first Android, I am very uneducated but I do have an idea of the possibilities. I hope to learn everything there is to learn and enjoy my phone and Android as much as I have with my IPhones
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Welcome
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125282
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Welcome i see your model is a 777, be sure if you plan to root and flash roms, to use the appropriate files (not the standard european) That if im not wrong, dosnt work on the 777
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Hi and welcome! You will be surprised how much you can personalize your android device! A tip is to try the different launchers. I use launcher pro! And if you dare to take it a step further you can try the different customs roms out there. My X10 was a completely new phone when I installed a custom rom.
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Thanks guys. I've heard of roms but will have to research more since I don't Know enough. Like for instance, I didn't know that my device id that ended in 777 was going to determine that much.
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I'm actually in the exact same boat as you, picked up the Galaxy S2 as my first Android phone after years of iPhones/iOS.
I'll be going back to Apple on October 14th.
So many people that I speak with outline that Android is so customizable and amazing, but I don't see it at all. There are some great features for sure (Swipe, Nav, etc) but overall I found the cons way out way the pros.
I've tried a number of different roms but never found one that didn't have something wrong with it. Certain apps not working, certain pieces of it not even present and ultimately I flashed to the updated Samsung 2.3.5.
I have reception issues every now and then that requires me to restart the phone. The battery life is pretty trashy unless I disable everything that makes a smart phone a smart phone. Apps don't feel anywhere near as polished, even something as simple as the facebook app feels slow and under developed when compared to the iOS version.
Overall, everything that people bloat about for Android being amazing, I'll never use (Seriously, who cares if you can torrent while on the go!) and the new features iOS 5 are going to bring will align pretty much everything that I actually do use.
I'm by no means an apple fan boy, I own a PC not a mac and I was more then willing to try Android after all the hype I've heard but I don't see any of it.
Huge disappointment, just wish I was still in the 14 days window where I could return the device...
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Thanks guys. I've heard of roms but will have to research more since I don't Know enough. Like for instance, I didn't know that my device id that ended in 777 was going to determine that much.
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go to menu -settings-about phone-last 5 entries will tell you alot about your phone model and versions on it.
You will need this information if you need help in the future.
I had an iPhone 4 for a few months and couldn't wait to get rid of it, I'm really pleased with my galaxy s2. For me the benefits of android far outweigh the negatives. Some of the benefits of android include not having to use crappy itunes, being able to use an SD card and not having to wait months for a jailbreak to mention just a few.
When I comes to customizing the home screen try 'go launcher' you can run it without root. To do the equivilant on the iPhone you would need about 4 or 5 cydia apps/tweaks.
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Hello, I'm coming from an iphone, I've had one since they came out. But I'm about to move to a galaxy s3, I know I know, it took me long enough.
My question is, I have been reading this forum for a few days and it seems that most people that have a galaxy s3 really don't like the version of ICS and touchwiz that come on the phone. Why is this? What about it is so bad? Again I have never had an android, and have only used a galaxy s3 in person a few times at the AT&T store. Just trying to learn.
Also anyone have any tips to someone moving from an iphone?
Reason is because ics stock looks might be better for some people, and some apps look and act different, coming from an iPhone I wouldn't worry much, I feel the touchwiz makes it easier for iPhone user to enjoy android, there is a lot good features on galaxy s 3 that you would enjoy, I would recommend to get an extra battery and play with the OS a lot is different, also get ics keyboard on the play store because stock keyboard sucks, once you comfortable with Android try to find out more about rooting and cyanogen 9 which is android os without any added features from any OEM good luck and enjoy the big screen
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It's all personal preference.I believe Most people don't like touchwiz because its to far away from "vanilla" android which would be the experience you get on a nexus device. I'd say try it out and if you like it stick with it, if not you can switch home launchers or go to a new rom. I've recently switch from an iPhone myself and personally don't mind touchwiz on the s3
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It's all personal preference.I believe Most people don't like touchwiz because its to far away from "vanilla" android which would be the experience you get on a nexus device. I'd say try it out and if you like it stick with it, if not you can switch home launchers or go to a new rom. I've recently switch from an iPhone myself and personally don't mind touchwiz on the s3
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any regrets coming from an iphone, anything you miss from it?
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any regrets coming from an iphone, anything you miss from it?
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Some games like tiny wings, and apps like tweetbot lol but other then that I don't remember anything big that I miss,
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Stuck with an unrooted Verizon sg3 for now and can't for the life of me figure out why the f these Asian manufacturers think we need their crappy overlay. HTC included. Vanilla ICS and GB are so smooth and pretty why ruin it? Someone tell these idiots to leave the OS alone and concentrate on the hardware. Ughhhh... Ranting and venting early morning, sorry
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How are you stuck with it?
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loveubuntu said:
Stuck with an unrooted Verizon sg3 for now and can't for the life of me figure out why the f these Asian manufacturers think we need their crappy overlay. HTC included. Vanilla ICS and GB are so smooth and pretty why ruin it? Someone tell these idiots to leave the OS alone and concentrate on the hardware. Ughhhh... Ranting and venting early morning, sorry
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Manufacturers like to make their phones different, otherwise they'd all be the same phones just with different hardware, and normal consumers typically don't pay attention to hardware. So they have to advertise new features that they have in the software, like S Voice and stuff.
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Samsung, that same manufacturer, realizes this, and offers an alternative called the Nexus....
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Samsung, that same manufacturer, realizes this, and offers an alternative called the Nexus....
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samsung doesn't offer the nexus because it realizes people dont like touchwiz...
I like Touchwiz personally. So I guess they make it for people like me . I have had this the international version and both versions of the One X (all rooted) and the out of the box lte galaxy s3 has been the best for me. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
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OP why didn't you get the Nexus? No one forced you to get the S3. This why Samsung offers so many models....choices.
So install apex/nova launcher and get that vanilla ics feeling
Good thing we've got AOKP on our Galaxy S3s now.
Lol.... you dont need to be stuck my friend!
Enter the world of ....Custom Launchers!
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I'm. Surprised you don't know this.
For a more clean/ aosop feel go with apex. I personally LOVE go launcher ex.
Just go to market search launcher
Themes a few good ones people really like: apex, nova , go launcher, ???
PS.....no root needed!
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I think all OEMs should give options. Vanilla or their overlay. I have an S3 but I really like Sense 4.0 from HTC. While the HOX was nice...It just was not for me over all.
But that option may be hard for OEMs to do.
I installed Apex Launcher, stacked all my apps and absolutely love it. Not having to scroll through screens is awesome.
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Lol.... you dont need to be stuck my friend!
Enter the world of ....Custom Launchers!
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I'm. Surprised you don't know this.
For a more clean/ aosop feel go with apex. I personally LOVE go launcher ex.
Just go to market search launcher
Themes a few good ones people really like: apex, nova , go launcher, ???
PS.....no root needed!
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I'm pretty sure what the OP is referring to can't be solved by a simple launcher since touchwiz goes deep. Nonetheless he should've known what he was getting into and should've stuck with a nexus device
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IMO it's really pathetic to complain about TW especially since it's practically Vanilla with some really good enhancements, now if it were as bad as say Sense, then I would maybe agree, now that is one hideous "skin"
I have a galaxy note with sgs3 app ports and I couldn't be more satisfied. I've had Motorola and HTC android phones and this experience is by far the best as far as overlay of OS is for me. Whatever floats your boat tho.
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I've really been trying to figure out what's so great about vanilla ICS. Is it just the visual theme? In which case that's just a matter of preference, or is it some feature that you prefer? It seems like Touchwiz has almost all of the same features, and you can install the default apps from vanilla ICS if you prefer them.
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I think all OEMs should give options. Vanilla or their overlay. I have an S3 but I really like Sense 4.0 from HTC. While the HOX was nice...It just was not for me over all.
But that option may be hard for OEMs to do.
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I agree with you. My favorite UI is Sense 4.0. I would've gotten the One X, if Verizon had it.
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I've really been trying to figure out what's so great about vanilla ICS. Is it just the visual theme? In which case that's just a matter of preference, or is it some feature that you prefer? It seems like Touchwiz has almost all of the same features, and you can install the default apps from vanilla ICS if you prefer them.
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I am also wondering the same thing about Stock ICS. But I think that maybe its because its less intrusive than other UI's, and functions smoothly, just like google intended it to perform. Again I think its preference, some people like Stock and others prefer something other than stock. Personally I like all UI's but if I had to pick it would be the Sense 4.0.
Lol @ OP buying a phone that comes with a UI over AOSP android and then *****ing about the UI.
Did you not know the sgs3 had touchwiz and htc has sense? Did you try a different launcher? Was this thread really needed? Stop whining and trade it for a nexus. Then read before investing in a phone.
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I like Touchwiz personally. So I guess they make it for people like me . I have had this the international version and both versions of the One X (all rooted) and the out of the box lte galaxy s3 has been the best for me. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
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I think "one man's trash is another man's treasure" may be more applicable.
Sense 4 is light but touchwiz is even lighter at least the silly colored boxes around applications are gone. B