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so I purchased the transformer after rave reviews online. Unfortunately I'm finding an incredibly sluggish experience akin to my nexus 1 on stock 2.1. I'm at 3.1 and the latest firmware and the thing is almost unusable even after a fresh reboot. The launcher is sluggish and all tasks are jerky and delayed. Anyone have any tips to optimizing. The performance? I thought about an although launcher but that seems. Like it SHOULD be unnecessary on hardware like this....
My nexus on cm7 with go launcher is smooth as butter... any ideas? Any known issues?
So on a stock rom it feels like... a stock rom? Give it time. As honeycomb matures and more custom roms with optimizations come out it will definitely get better. The one complaint I have right now is choppy flash video which apparently does not affect other devices (even with equal hardware).
Basically, Asus needs to implement some fixes (like Flash) then get the source code into the hands of devs around here and we will be sorted. Honestly though, it's really not bad as it is. I'm loving it!
apols said:
Any known issues?
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Yes there are several if you read here and elsewhere, but nothing like you're describing AFAIK.
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so I purchased the transformer after rave reviews online. Unfortunately I'm finding an incredibly sluggish experience akin to my nexus 1 on stock 2.1. I'm at 3.1 and the latest firmware and the thing is almost unusable even after a fresh reboot. The launcher is sluggish and all tasks are jerky and delayed. Anyone have any tips to optimizing. The performance? I thought about an although launcher but that seems. Like it SHOULD be unnecessary on hardware like this....
My nexus on cm7 with go launcher is smooth as butter... any ideas? Any known issues?
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To me the default launcher on Asus is very sluggish even when 3.1 came out. I recommend get ADW Launcher Pro. Been using it from day one. Its also sluggish with the Samsung 10.1
I got mine yesterday, TBH I'm also little disappointed with the overall performance given its’ hardware spec. But its NOT extremely laggy a you describe. Early builds of most Android ROMs are like this. I experienced similar issues with my Galaxy S when I first got it, but with time things improved a lot. So I am anxiously waiting for Asus to come up with better ROMs (fixing Flash performance and overall laggyness of the browser and launcher).
@OP, there are plenty of youtube videos showing general performance; go through them and see if you experience anything out of the ordinary.
I haven't noticed the sluggishness myself. There have been a couple hiccups during periods of high load, thats about it.
I did turn Animations to "Some" though...
No slugishness for me. Even before 3.1 I didn't notice any. The animations could be set to be faster sometimes but thats about it. No jerkiness for sure.
++ there's something wrong with your Transformer.
I wouldn't describe the launcher as 'super smooth' but it's not 'almost unusable' by any stretch.
I have an HTC Incredible (almost identical hardware to the Nexus One) running CyanogenMod 7.03 (Android 2.3) and the Transformer is faster without a doubt.
The first thing you should try is a factory reset.
Hey guys,
So, the wife decided to get an Android and we bought the HTC Wildfire S. This low-end (or mid-range?) device packs a 600MHz CPU, 512MB RAM and Android 2.3.3.
When we first turned it on, I noticed opening-closing apps was so fast that I was shocked, really shocked, compared to my SGS. This was the first time I was able to actually compare two Android phones. She has been using it for like a month now, and the phone is as fast as when we bought it.
On my SGS I am on stock XXJVO + Voodoo Lagfix, nothing else. Just standard apps installed and LauncherPro (paid). However, I feel that opening and closing apps is not as fast as the Wildfire S. It takes a few seconds to change interfaces, and what bothers me more is that it takes like 2 seconds to close an app and show the homescreen (pressing the back button several times, I don't use Home much).
On the Wildfire S you can browse through the interfaces extremely fast, everything opens and closes immediately. There is absolute no lag at all, really, no matter what app you're closing.
My question is, why is the SGS feels so laggy and slow compared to a low-end phone like the Wildfire S? Is it the ROM I'm using? Is it the launcher? I've tried rebooting it, battery pull and everything, but still, its slow.
I'd love to hear your input on this. Have you guys experienced some sort of laggyness when opening-closing apps as well? Or is it just my phone?
Thank you all!
I've compared the Desire S with and without a custom ROM to my Galaxy S, and for some reason HTC Sense is just really fast and with custom ROM was about the same as my Galaxy S. So I guess it's just HTC Sense.
Install Cyanogenmod 7. Makes the SGS far faster than the wildfire s and makes the Samsung ROMs like JVO look prehistoric.
Insanity cm.....all is instant
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Hey guys,
So, the wife decided to get an Android and we bought the HTC Wildfire S. This low-end (or mid-range?) device packs a 600MHz CPU, 512MB RAM and Android 2.3.3.
When we first turned it on, I noticed opening-closing apps was so fast that I was shocked, really shocked, compared to my SGS. This was the first time I was able to actually compare two Android phones. She has been using it for like a month now, and the phone is as fast as when we bought it.
On my SGS I am on stock XXJVO + Voodoo Lagfix, nothing else. Just standard apps installed and LauncherPro (paid). However, I feel that opening and closing apps is not as fast as the Wildfire S. It takes a few seconds to change interfaces, and what bothers me more is that it takes like 2 seconds to close an app and show the homescreen (pressing the back button several times, I don't use Home much).
On the Wildfire S you can browse through the interfaces extremely fast, everything opens and closes immediately. There is absolute no lag at all, really, no matter what app you're closing.
My question is, why is the SGS feels so laggy and slow compared to a low-end phone like the Wildfire S? Is it the ROM I'm using? Is it the launcher? I've tried rebooting it, battery pull and everything, but still, its slow.
I'd love to hear your input on this. Have you guys experienced some sort of laggyness when opening-closing apps as well? Or is it just my phone?
Thank you all!
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yes its true no matter what roms ive used but comparing to my motorola nd other low end spice i think sgs shld ave been much or twice fast but boldly its not...even my nokia touch is much better than it.but still sgs rules on screen,size,feel...so i wonder when a 2ghz dual core phone comes out,wat will sgs look like....
rocky23 said:
yes its true no matter what roms ive used but comparing to my motorola nd other low end spice i think sgs shld ave been much or twice fast but boldly its not...even my nokia touch is much better than it.but still sgs rules on screen,size,feel...so i wonder when a 2ghz dual core phone comes out,wat will sgs look like....
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I have found that LPP is really laggy with gingerbread update. Maybe, even before. I had been using only launcher pro for more than 4-5 months, and was surprised by the speed, when I switched to another launcher. Some operations, like adding shortcut to applications or even adding widgets would take a long time in launcher pro.
Have you tried other home launchers?
FYI, I have tried some low-end phones (HTC wildfire, Dell XCD 35 aka ZTE Blade) and some decent ones (Nexus S,HTC Desire(not much),SE Arc,SE X10,SGS 2)..
And,I find a proper SGS (custom ROM based on stock+custom kernel ) to be perform similar to a Nexus S or SE Arc.
Since the i9000 launch there was some serious lag problems with the Galaxy S, otherwise lag fixes wouldn't be popular as they were (and probably still are).
Things got better with newer firmware versions but the fact is the problem never really got entirely solved.
Currently I have stock 2.3.4 JVP and after flashing and wiping the phone was really fast. My problem is that as time goes by, and you start installing apps, music, content, etc. the performance decreases noticeably and even benchmarks such as Quadrant start getting lower scores as time passes by.
I've never seen this behaviour in other systems like iOS or WP7, and even on other Androids I believe the problem does not exist or the user doesn't notice it as much as with the SGS.
Quad-core 1Ghz, 3D Samoled+! O.O
Sorry, OT.
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CM7> AOSP > HTC Sense > Samsung TW > LG
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I have no idea what you are moaning about. No issues with the phone. Compared to my Xperia X10a and HTC HD2, this one is very nice indeed.
Ctcng said:
Since the i9000 launch there was some serious lag problems with the Galaxy S, otherwise lag fixes wouldn't be popular as they were (and probably still are).
Things got better with newer firmware versions but the fact is the problem never really got entirely solved.
Currently I have stock 2.3.4 JVP and after flashing and wiping the phone was really fast. My problem is that as time goes by, and you start installing apps, music, content, etc. the performance decreases noticeably and even benchmarks such as Quadrant start getting lower scores as time passes by.
I've never seen this behaviour in other systems like iOS or WP7, and even on other Androids I believe the problem does not exist or the user doesn't notice it as much as with the SGS.
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exactly my thoughts.
I like samsung - i was also considering buying the second sgs, however decided to wait for a nice ice cream at the year end.
In any case, i am disappointed about the money i spent for the sgs.
I had higher expectations - i am talking about stock roms, now jvo, as when im
buying a product, i expect the support to be done by the manufacturer and not
myself, and at my own risk..
And something offtopic: the alarm bug hasnt even been officially fixed right?!!?
Try JVQ at least. It's the best gingerbread rom to date.
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Hey guys,
So, the wife decided to get an Android and we bought the HTC Wildfire S. This low-end (or mid-range?) device packs a 600MHz CPU, 512MB RAM and Android 2.3.3.
When we first turned it on, I noticed opening-closing apps was so fast that I was shocked, really shocked, compared to my SGS. This was the first time I was able to actually compare two Android phones. She has been using it for like a month now, and the phone is as fast as when we bought it.
On my SGS I am on stock XXJVO + Voodoo Lagfix, nothing else. Just standard apps installed and LauncherPro (paid). However, I feel that opening and closing apps is not as fast as the Wildfire S. It takes a few seconds to change interfaces, and what bothers me more is that it takes like 2 seconds to close an app and show the homescreen (pressing the back button several times, I don't use Home much).
On the Wildfire S you can browse through the interfaces extremely fast, everything opens and closes immediately. There is absolute no lag at all, really, no matter what app you're closing.
My question is, why is the SGS feels so laggy and slow compared to a low-end phone like the Wildfire S? Is it the ROM I'm using? Is it the launcher? I've tried rebooting it, battery pull and everything, but still, its slow.
I'd love to hear your input on this. Have you guys experienced some sort of laggyness when opening-closing apps as well? Or is it just my phone?
Thank you all!
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i must say I totally agree with OP ! my sgs is also laggy. I am on f1 sgs2 rom. with galaxian kernel, with ext 4 lagfix and oc to 1.2 Ghz. but still it takes way to long, to open apps of any kind... and it just lags randomly all the time. have reinstalled several times according to instructions so dont tell me to do factory reset
I think the best gingerbread I have tried was jvh. app launch was the nearest to instant I have seen.
but I think the most lagfree experience must be froyo jp6 or jpy with speedmod kernel.
and to be honest since jp6 the browser has been a joke... :-(
its said that jvq browser is better, but only on odexed roms...
sadly I think that the support for the sgs is nearly over... and I have lost faith that samsung will free my sgs of lag :-(
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Try JVQ at least. It's the best gingerbread rom to date.
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Still way slower than my old nexus one running gingerbread. It runs rings around cm7 even. Everything is instant and faultless.
Op is right.
If nexus one had samoled screen and better speakers I'd be like,
what's a galaxy s?
Having said that I prefer the gs1 to nexus s.
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Try JVQ at least. It's the best gingerbread rom to date.
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my bad, that is what i am using.
It was impressive at the beginning, however not anymore.
lag is back, the alarm bug is still on, and some recent random restarts started.
I know there are fixes etc - but its worth noting that the hardware will die unutilised at least when it comes to official roms from samsung.
The lag issue is a common theme with the SGS. Not sure how long you have owned your SGS but I believe the SGS still has better hardware but the lag develops over time.
So when I first got me SGS in June last year, it was great at the start. Then the lag came in and I tried OneClick Lagfix based on xda advice. That seemed to work for a bit but then slowed down again. In November, I flashed my first custom rom (Darky 8.5), the used the Speedmod Lag fix. Same thing, good at the start, then slows down. I kept trying a few others (Darky 9.2, 10.1, DebusRom, ExtraOrdinary, Chebon) and the longest I stayed on before noticing the lag was about 1 month.
One of the steps suggested before a flashing a rom is to undo lagfix and recommended to do a wipe as the freshest install. Doing this seems to refresh the speed as it was at the start (so constant flashing seems to make things quicker).
Something also to try if you don't want to try a new rom or firmware, is to undo and redo the lagfix. Almost like defragmenting but it seems to refresh the system (imho).
I have also heard some of the latest firmwares (JVQ) have better implementations of the filesystem and have heard some people not using lagifx at all. Given you have installed lagfix, you aren't that far from installing a new firmware/rom (just back up your files obviously). I haven't been on JVQ long enough to see if this truly fixes the issue though.
Just my thoughts.
Heritz said:
Hey guys,
So, the wife decided to get an Android and we bought the HTC Wildfire S. This low-end (or mid-range?) device packs a 600MHz CPU, 512MB RAM and Android 2.3.3.
When we first turned it on, I noticed opening-closing apps was so fast that I was shocked, really shocked, compared to my SGS. This was the first time I was able to actually compare two Android phones. She has been using it for like a month now, and the phone is as fast as when we bought it.
On my SGS I am on stock XXJVO + Voodoo Lagfix, nothing else. Just standard apps installed and LauncherPro (paid). However, I feel that opening and closing apps is not as fast as the Wildfire S. It takes a few seconds to change interfaces, and what bothers me more is that it takes like 2 seconds to close an app and show the homescreen (pressing the back button several times, I don't use Home much).
On the Wildfire S you can browse through the interfaces extremely fast, everything opens and closes immediately. There is absolute no lag at all, really, no matter what app you're closing.
My question is, why is the SGS feels so laggy and slow compared to a low-end phone like the Wildfire S? Is it the ROM I'm using? Is it the launcher? I've tried rebooting it, battery pull and everything, but still, its slow.
I'd love to hear your input on this. Have you guys experienced some sort of laggyness when opening-closing apps as well? Or is it just my phone?
Thank you all!
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This shocking,i had the wildfire,and have to say that i experienced totally different things than you.It was laggy,slow.Then i rooted the phone,and changed the sense crap to a different rom,then there was no lag.phone worked smoothly.as for my SGS,the stock thing is laggy.It gets much better only changing the kernel to Galaxian.
I gotta try that Galaxian kernel. Changing to other phone constantly inhabits my mind, to something more reliable.
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nesx87 said:
In any case, i am disappointed about the money i spent for the sgs.
I had higher expectations - i am talking about stock roms, now jvo, as when im
buying a product, i expect the support to be done by the manufacturer and not
myself, and at my own risk..
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Manufacturer? It's not even that simple. A friend has a stock one and it works nicely (for stock). Another friend has another stock one and lags horribly, force closes, freezes, has trouble with dropped calls. The difference? They are on different operators so the crap that they bundle together is so different that it makes or breaks the phone.
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I have found that LPP is really laggy with gingerbread update. Maybe, even before. I had been using only launcher pro for more than 4-5 months, and was surprised by the speed, when I switched to another launcher. Some operations, like adding shortcut to applications or even adding widgets would take a long time in launcher pro.
Have you tried other home launchers?
FYI, I have tried some low-end phones (HTC wildfire, Dell XCD 35 aka ZTE Blade) and some decent ones (Nexus S,HTC Desire(not much),SE Arc,SE X10,SGS 2)..
And,I find a proper SGS (custom ROM based on stock+custom kernel ) to be perform similar to a Nexus S or SE Arc.
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You were right. LP was lagging the phone as hell, mostly when going back to the homescreen and closing apps. I gave TouchWiz a run for a straight hour, playing games, opening and closing emails, browsing G+, Maps and several other apps, it never lagged when going back to the homescreen, which is what worries me most. I still need to try it on everyday use though.
Time to find another launcher. Any recommendations?
I have to say, I am not impressed with this thing. Right out of the box I noticed that it was MUCH laggier than my Galaxy Nexus.
I figured it was just the bloated Samsung skin that caused it so I instantly rooted it and installed CM9 4.0.4. However, that doesn't seem to have helped much.
I've found that even just typing an email in Gmail causes the onscreen keyboard to become extremely slow after typing the first paragraph, to the point where I have to close out of Gmail and re-open it in order to get it to respond correctly again.
Is there something I'm missing here? Shouldn't this thing be much snappier than my Galaxy Nexus? Is there another ROM I should be using?
The two Rom's I like right now on mine are either the Galaxy Task or Clean Rom.
You could also try AOKP, that seemed to do pretty well on mine too.
Tegra 2 (or Tegra in general) just blows. At least for a device this size.
Have you tried using different keyboards? If not, it might be an idea to download and experiment with some to find if any resolve the lag issue. Just an idea.
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I have to say, I am not impressed with this thing. Right out of the box I noticed that it was MUCH laggier than my Galaxy Nexus.
I figured it was just the bloated Samsung skin that caused it so I instantly rooted it and installed CM9 4.0.4. However, that doesn't seem to have helped much.
I've found that even just typing an email in Gmail causes the onscreen keyboard to become extremely slow after typing the first paragraph, to the point where I have to close out of Gmail and re-open it in order to get it to respond correctly again.
Is there something I'm missing here? Shouldn't this thing be much snappier than my Galaxy Nexus? Is there another ROM I should be using?
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While tegra 2 isn't great, it shouldn't have problems with ICS. Even on a mostly stock honeycomb build, my tab is running pretty smoothly without overclocking. Except for the rare scrolling hiccup. Most likely the build isn't optimized well enough, and CM9 nightlies are still alpha builds at best. I would suggest either flashing a more stable debloated honeycomb build or waiting for at least an RC version of CM9.
I feel the same way, it's so slow its going backwards. I have almost stopped using it all together because it's a pain to use xd
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I have ICS AOKP installed on my GT-p7510 and I gotta say, it's pretty fast. Except from not having a working camera driver, there's nothing to complain about.
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I have to say, I am not impressed with this thing. Right out of the box I noticed that it was MUCH laggier than my Galaxy Nexus.
I figured it was just the bloated Samsung skin that caused it so I instantly rooted it and installed CM9 4.0.4. However, that doesn't seem to have helped much.
I've found that even just typing an email in Gmail causes the onscreen keyboard to become extremely slow after typing the first paragraph, to the point where I have to close out of Gmail and re-open it in order to get it to respond correctly again.
Is there something I'm missing here? Shouldn't this thing be much snappier than my Galaxy Nexus? Is there another ROM I should be using?
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Why would you ever think this tablet would be snappier than the Gnex? The Gnex is newer and has a newer and faster processor, with newer, more optimized software.
I don't get why you would think a tablet produced in May/June of last year would be somehow snappier than a device produced in October/November.
While I haven't found the tablet to have the same problems you described, I have to say I'm not very impressed with the Tab's performance. But we shouldn't be so quick to judge ICS; the drivers are community written so I wasn't expecting a lot out of them. ICS ROMs are smooth but there's always some sort of thing that pisses me off, or something that sparks a lagfest. Honeycomb ROMs seem to be a lot smoother. But I seem to notice a slice of laglaglag when the tablet is in portrait. Not that I use it in portrait, but still.
Games were a lagfest in both ICS and Honeycomb, the graphics looked pretty good but what use was it when the games are running at 10FPS? The only thing I can really say I like about this tablet is everything it's not supposed to do; run Ubuntu, both inside Android, and a native install of Ubuntu with Android removed. I like playing PS1 games on it too, something that crappy iPad couldn't do.
Another thing; tablet apps. Developers seem to ignore tablet users. Most apps I've used made me feel like my tablet was a big ass phone, and I've seen this complaint a lot.
But I gotta say I really regret not waiting. I wanted to go for the Transformer Prime but didn't want to wait. I regret letting my lack of patience get the best of me.
I hope you actually flashed a rom after flashing CWM or else there's obviously going to be no difference. I somehow have never experienced issues on my end. Everything is fast for me, with either a stock rooted/unrooted rom or a custom rom. And if you couldnt see a difference between Honeycomb and ICS on your tablet, then something must be wrong. Even with the small glitches and bugs, it's very fast. Maybe you should overclock as well.
same here- galaxy task10 is very smooth - couple it with ADW and it is very very snappy - ICS gives me a little bit more snap - so not sure what standards the OP is referencing since i also have Gnex and it does not feel any faster than my current tab
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I hope you actually flashed a rom after flashing CWM or else there's obviously going to be no difference. I somehow have never experienced issues on my end. Everything is fast for me, with either a stock rooted/unrooted rom or a custom rom. And if you couldnt see a difference between Honeycomb and ICS on your tablet, then something must be wrong. Even with the small glitches and bugs, it's very fast. Maybe you should overclock as well.
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Agreed with the previous 2 posters. I have used cyanogen, and am currently using task 14. While I too am wishing I had waited and bought the transformer (for other reasons), I am very happy with the responsiveness of my tab. Task 14 is, for me, a very smooth take on honeycomb. Add in some of boosted's themes for that ICS look, and I am quite content.
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I have to admit that I am upset with the smoothness of ics. Whilst it is smoother than honeycomb, it still has a long way to go before I would call it smooth. But, I am not making judgements on ics until Sammy release their official version, and hopefully that will be smoother as it isn't all the honeycomb kernel source code patched and hack to make ics work. Also, does anyone else notice that on cm9 games feel like they have a lower frame rate than honeycomb, I was comparing games like mine craft on cm9 compared to my friends stock gtab10.1 and his stock 3.2 had a much higher frame rate, does anyone worse find this the case please?
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I have to admit that I am upset with the smoothness of ics. Whilst it is smoother than honeycomb, it still has a long way to go before I would call it smooth. But, I am not making judgements on ics until Sammy release their official version, and hopefully that will be smoother as it isn't all the honeycomb kernel source code patched and hack to make ics work. Also, does anyone else notice that on cm9 games feel like they have a lower frame rate than honeycomb, I was comparing games like mine craft on cm9 compared to my friends stock gtab10.1 and his stock 3.2 had a much higher frame rate, does anyone worse find this the case please?
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U still have to bare in mind ics on our tablet is still alpha....
So I think comparing a alpha build with a yr old os is silly really :L!
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If I'm sick of lags I just overclock to 1400 and change the governor to performance.
Unfortunately I usually end up slowing that down when my battery drains in approximately 15 seconds...
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If I'm sick of lags I just overclock to 1400 and change the governor to performance.
Unfortunately I usually end up slowing that down when my battery drains in approximately 15 seconds...
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Galaxy task 14 + ADW + 1400 OC = smooth...
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I also notice the Galaxy tab 10.1 is laggy.
I own an Asus transformer prime and the missus owns the galaxy tab, and its true that out of the box the asus is much much faster, mostly on the home screens. I had attributed this as a difference between HC 3.2 and ICS, we shall see.
However,
I cant mention enough just how vastly superior the wifi is on the galaxy tab. The difference is night and day. Oh it works on the asus alright (I have the latest serial version), but it seems to be very patchy. After an hour of using the browser on my TF prime and then picking up the galaxy tab the connection feels so much more solid and responsive and using the tab comes as something of a relief.
Thing is, it doesnt really matter what the specs are on paper, all I really care about is responsiveness of a good looking UI and good wifi. I feel that the tf prime is going to need a hard mod to sort out the wifi, which i will not do. On the other hand, I feel that a software update on the tab could sort out some of its lag issues, which would make the tab more useful in my household for our needs.
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I also notice the Galaxy tab 10.1 is laggy.
I own an Asus transformer prime and the missus owns the galaxy tab, and its true that out of the box the asus is much much faster, mostly on the home screens. I had attributed this as a difference between HC 3.2 and ICS, we shall see.
However,
I cant mention enough just how vastly superior the wifi is on the galaxy tab. The difference is night and day. Oh it works on the asus alright (I have the latest serial version), but it seems to be very patchy. After an hour of using the browser on my TF prime and then picking up the galaxy tab the connection feels so much more solid and responsive and using the tab comes as something of a relief.
Thing is, it doesnt really matter what the specs are on paper, all I really care about is responsiveness of a good looking UI and good wifi. I feel that the tf prime is going to need a hard mod to sort out the wifi, which i will not do. On the other hand, I feel that a software update on the tab could sort out some of its lag issues, which would make the tab more useful in my household for our needs.
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Well a combination of ICS and a quad-core processor will blow away the Galaxy Tab without question.
stock = sucks
stock + swype keyboard = sucks ^2
In my case I flashed Gtask rom or overcome with pershoot kernel and keep avoiding swype.. and everything runs like silk now.
i'm not experiencing ANY lag what so ever after i flashed this rom:
[ROM] [ICS] Android Open Kang Project - p4/wifi/vzw - milestone 4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459287
Ok so referring the note to a turd might be a bit over the top, but with my first day going from gingerbread to ics I have to voice my opinions.
When I first booted it up this morning I was underwhelmed. I'm coming from a desire z with asop ics which is a fantastic device, still smooth and great all round.
With GB everything was ugly to start off with, and the general performance felt a step down from my modded desire z (truly a credit to the developers). The browser was clunky (even in opera mobile) , the whites were more yellow than I expected, the was quite some lag waking it up and audio with headphones was terrible. I gave the desire z credit for its audio quality, I'm no audiophile but the difference was massive and it was actually painful to listen to the songs I used to love.
Now I'm using the latest stunner and the difference is unreal, it has literally transformed the phone. Everything is faster, this is how the note should have been in the first place. I was gutted with the audio performance on GB, even tweaking the equaliser in power amp couldn't get me to an acceptable quality. Well somehow the dev's have done it again. In ICS the clarity and range is even slightly better than on my desire z, something I never expected.
I tested the Note in store before I brought it and it was terrible on the stock rom there, who knows why people would buy it (I'm talking a 1 second delay between swiping and recognition) but I had faith in the developers and it's paid off.
This is mainly for those pondering on whether they should get the note because of initial bad reviews on the audio and using the stock rom. The audio and general performance is now fantastic on ICS.
I feel sorry for the many out there on the stock rom, here's to you developers.
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Thanks for your opinion that 5 million people like to buy turds at $600+ a pop
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Ok so referring the note to a turd might be a bit over the top,
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shure2 said:
Ok so referring the note to a turd might be a bit over the top, but with my first day going from gingerbread to ics I have to voice my opinions.
When I first booted it up this morning I was underwhelmed. I'm coming from a desire z with asop ics which is a fantastic device, still smooth and great all round.
With GB everything was ugly to start off with, and the general performance felt a step down from my modded desire z (truly a credit to the developers). The browser was clunky (even in opera mobile) , the whites were more yellow than I expected, the was quite some lag waking it up and audio with headphones was terrible. I gave the desire z credit for its audio quality, I'm no audiophile but the difference was massive and it was actually painful to listen to the songs I used to love.
Now I'm using the latest shutter and the difference is unreal, it has literally transformed the phone. Everything is faster, this is how the note should have been in the first place. I was gutted with the audio performance on GB, even tweaking the equaliser in power amp couldn't get me to an acceptable quality. Well somehow the dev's have done it again. In ICS the clarity and range is even slightly better than on my desire z, something I never expected.
I tested the Note in store before I brought it and it was terrible on the stock rom there, who knows why people would buy it (I'm talking a 1 second delay between swiping and recognition) but I had faith in the developers and it's paid off.
This is mainly for those pondering on whether they should get the note because of initial bad reviews on the audio and using the stock rom. The audio and general performance is now fantastic on ICS.
I feel sorry for the many out there on the stock rom, here's to you developers.
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Even though I agree that ICS on the Note is very neat and improves many aspects of the device, at least in my case Gingerbread was not that bad either!
Perhaps the only gripe was the small lag on wake, but other than that it was buttery-smooth out of the box and after the 380+ apps I usually end up installing.
I think it all comes down to what your carrier have done to it and what firmware version you got it with in the first place.
Cheers!
I wouldn't call The note a turd!! ,it is a bit slower than the unrealistically buttery smooth SGS2 but not by much.
and since the sgs2 was more smooth than an Iphone4 (my own experience) ,then I'd say that the note is doing just fine on GB.
although ,I'm really looking forward to trying ICS ,it's just the Idea of me flashing ICS bootloaders for a "beta" that's putting me off ,or have I got this part wrong ,and I don't need to change bootloaders?
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...When I first booted it up this morning...
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I'd like to thank you for observing the advantages of ICS Stunner over the stock GB rom for such a long time, thats what i would like to call an an excellent base for judging a hole rom. this will make my decision much easier.
A turd really a bit too much but I do agree with OP, gingerbread Note left many things to be desired and I am on ICS stunner now, only thing I missed is full function S-pen.
I do hate touchwiz in guts. It does nothing but crap out our beautiful Note
If I had to choose , HTC has best software development for proprietary software user experience. While Samsung has the best specced hardware.
Note with pure aosp/aokp ICS is the best phone available today
Just my opinion.
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I love ics but if gb could get tablet mode I could care less about ics.
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You think the Note is a turd on GB?
Try coming from over a year with a Dell Streak stuck at 2.2.2
THAT was painful!
The note with GB 2.3.6, and Go Launcher EX, FLIES...at least it does for me.
Haha yep I had a Streak over the year and it was developer Dj_Steve that saved it for as long as it did. Even though the Note is better in most regards if got a soft spot for it as it was my first real awesome device. Why? Because it was 5 inches Never selling that, great memories.
There was only one reason that prevented me from getting the Note on release and that was touchwiz. But a couple of months ago I got one and enjoying it. Waiting patiently for ics but most likely once the spen apps work on osap ill move to that. I just love the experience of vanilla android that I had on my Streak.
Well stock GB left much to be desired but after the Devs did their magic it was great. Going to ICS and Stunner made my Note just the way I wanted it. But overall the phone was always a winner to me just for screen size alone lol but I do miss the S-pen apps.
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100% agreed. I didn't buy the Note because of Touchwiz or the S-Pen really...I bought it for its awesome screen. As an Android fanatic, knowing that I could change the firmware to whatever I wanted, made it an easy buy. Most "normal" people couldn't tell you what phone they have let alone what version of Android they have, if they even know it's an Android phone to begin with. But I feel even to people like this, Touchwiz is something of a joke. It's butt-assed ugly, laggy, and just a UI disaster in general. If I was stuck with what Samsung offered me, I wouldn't have ever bought the Note in the first place.
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I'd like to thank you for observing the advantages of ICS Stunner over the stock GB rom for such a long time, thats what i would like to call an an excellent base for judging a hole rom. this will make my decision much easier.
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I spent half the day using apps I would normally use (xda, opera, youtube, bbc app etc) and every single one was faster on my desire z with a custom rom (no games however). For me it doesn't take days to work out how good a rom is, I've been a serial flasher for years, and I'm sure lots of others can work out how good a rom is in a few hours. Maybe the desire z is an unfair comparison because it's so good when modded? But this has twice the ram, probably nearly twice the cpu performance so I was expecting a great performance out of the box.
Maybe I got a dud stock rom? (la6) If I'd have heard the headset quality in the store I wouldn't have brought it, but it's massively improved in ICS which I haven't seen said here. Obviously this is all down to personal preference, but the distortion and lifeless high ends were very noticeable before.
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But I feel even to people like this, Touchwiz is something of a joke. It's butt-assed ugly, laggy, and just a UI disaster in general.
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This is slightly OT now, but I just want to leave a comment on that (of course, this is not going against your opinion smalgal ): I´m not really into TW as well, just because of the one fact that Ißm using my note on smaller DPI settings, where TW really doesn´t make sense anymore.
But beside that I want to get the facts straight (at least imao): TW is far from being laggy or a UI disaster. Quite the opposite: It seems like TouchWiz is by far the most stable launcher I ever came across. I have used a tons of devices now, including the mighty SGSII (which was the fastest till today). And even though Go Launcher Ex, Apex Launcher (on ICS) and a bunch of other good launchers are fast as well, none of them gives me the same stability and reliability like TouchWiz does.
Fastest wakeup from standby, absolutely NO launcher crash, absolutely NO launcher reload, nothing...just working.
Of course, there are some things they really should FINALLY include like compatibility with lower DPI settings, personalized sort order in the drawer etc.
But laggy? Absolutely not.
I myself like the TW,here is what I am gonna do:Wait for the official ICS to be released,and after that will get the best custom ROM based on it with least bloatware,and flash.,of course will make sure that I test all of them first and get whatever suits me the best.
Thats what I did with my HD2,and PDA2K long time ago,and was very happy,on my HD2 I have chosen one of the least known ROMs but very light CleaNex STD,and couldnt be happier.
And plaease dont come out and advice me that that kind of ICS ROM already exists for the Note,this is a personal approach and I am willing to wait.
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I tested the Note in store before I brought it and it was terrible on the stock rom there, who knows why people would buy it...
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And yet you bought one!
So maybe a lot of us are expecting great things from devs and the ICS stock build when it eventually arrives!
"but I do miss the s-pen apps".
Well why not just flash a rom that supports them, try it out, see how you go! If you don't like it, just go back to stunner.
I'm using midnote1.0. I believe you can use alba aswell. S-pen apps are working very well. For me, ICS is a massive improvement on GB. Everything is working instantly, and properly too. It really makes a difference.
GAH. Comparing stock anything to an XDA custom Rom isn't fair for a start. Put the latest RocketROM GB v23 up against Stunner and we'll see a contest.
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This is slightly OT now, but I just want to leave a comment on that (of course, this is not going against your opinion smalgal ): I´m not really into TW as well, just because of the one fact that Ißm using my note on smaller DPI settings, where TW really doesn´t make sense anymore.
But beside that I want to get the facts straight (at least imao): TW is far from being laggy or a UI disaster. Quite the opposite: It seems like TouchWiz is by far the most stable launcher I ever came across. I have used a tons of devices now, including the mighty SGSII (which was the fastest till today). And even though Go Launcher Ex, Apex Launcher (on ICS) and a bunch of other good launchers are fast as well, none of them gives me the same stability and reliability like TouchWiz does.
Fastest wakeup from standby, absolutely NO launcher crash, absolutely NO launcher reload, nothing...just working.
Of course, there are some things they really should FINALLY include like compatibility with lower DPI settings, personalized sort order in the drawer etc.
But laggy? Absolutely not.
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TW is not that ugly , and it's definitely not laggy at all ,like you mentioned it's actually the smoothest launcher of them all.
But to be honest ,TW on the note is not as smooth as TW on the SGS2 ,actually the whole stock experience is a lot less refined than the SGS2 ,the launcher tends to reload on the note when a heavy app is loaded ,and that never ever faced me on the SGS2 before.
and since the note's hardware is on par with the S2 ,I'm actually very excited to what improvements ICS will bring along , in comparision I wasn't excited at all for the S2 ICS update cause it was perfect as it is.
but That's not to say the note is a turd to begin with ,far from it actually.
No, you don´t mess with the bootloader by installing ICS stunner. If you mess up your Note, you can allways flash a stock rom through PC Odin and start over.
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Touchwiz is more than just a "launcher." It's a complete UI overlay...and it's ugly, and it's laggy. Maybe I didn't get the same phone everyone else did, no? Touchwiz launcher itself is clumsy and slow, and I personally think it's terrible. I don't know where you people getting off saying it's the best launcher you've ever used. Have you tried them all?
I know this is going to sound very much like a first world problem, but this phone is frustratingly ****. It is easily the buggiest, slowest, most laggy phone I have ever had.
I have tried just about all the LG based ROMS, only to find that each one, although not buggy, are all laggy. The lag is so bad that it gives my old S2 on Gingerbread a run for its money. At least with Samsung phones, you could get rid of the lag by using a AOSP ROM and it would still be functional.
To solve the frustrating lag issue, I have installed a CM based ROM. At first I was delighted. The lag was gone. The phone was now comparable to my super fast Nexus 5. But after a few hours, I noticed the same bugs that every other CM based ROM user has. Today, I had to restart the phone six times FFS! It is a little more stable on 777 Kernel, but the same issues still persist.
Has anyone achieved bliss with this phone? Is there any ROMS, AOSP or LG based, that are fast, (Nexus 5 fast), and bug free?
Don't get me wrong, I love devs and the work they do. Without them, my old Galaxy phones, (S1, S2, S3, S4), would have been poo. My Nexus 5 would have been boring. (Stock android is meh). I just don't understand why this phone seems to have so many issues. Help me understand why it is so hard to develop a fast and reliable ROM for this phone. I know it isn't from a lack of trying. There is heaps of support and devs working on various ROMS in the G3 threads already and all of them are very talented.
Is it hardware based lag or is there something else inherently wrong with the phone?
Thanks for reading and offering any solutions. I don't want to list the ROMS I have tried, as it will seem like I am an ungrateful twat to those devs that worked so hard. Suffice to say, I have tried all the popular CM/AOSP and LG based ROMS.
Stock 5.0 V20H fine for me no lag [emoji3]
I switched to note 4 whilst g3 was good I had a better experience with my note 3. So upgraded
-= Note 4 & Gear VR =-
hashcheck said:
I switched to note 4 whilst g3 was good I had a better experience with my note 3. So upgraded
-= Note 4 & Gear VR =-
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I don't want to switch so soon. There has to be a solution. I love the screen and size of this phone. The only other phone I would consider is the droid turbo, but it's so bloody expensive!
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Stock 5.0 V20H fine for me no lag [emoji3]
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Compared to what? Which other android phone have you used? In isolation, this phone is barely acceptable. Then, after you use a nexus, HTC or Sony phone, this phone is comparably slow. Almost unusable.
I can't bring myself to try stock again until someone who has other phones to base their claims on can confirm it is lag free.
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Compared to what? Which other android phone have you used? In isolation, this phone is barely acceptable. Then, after you use a nexus, HTC or Sony phone, this phone is comparably slow. Almost unusable.
I can't bring myself to try stock again until someone who has other phones to base their claims on can confirm it is lag free.
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Have you tried the usual tricks?
1. Swap out the stock launcher for something like Nova or Apex
2. Switch your keyboard to a 3rd party keyboard
While it does suffer from the random stutter, my phone is generally very zippy and does not lag.
Done all that. On stock based ROMS, stutter and lag is unbearable. My wife, nexus 5 user, even commented on how bad it is. I'm actually embarrassed to use the phone in front of people. I know it isn't a hardware issue, because AOSP ROMS are lag free, but not bug free.
Yeah, the phone is nowhere near as quick as a Nexus. The notification bar is also **** compared to stock Lollipop. There are a few tricks I use to improve performance on a stock rom:
1) Turn off throttling/thermal daemon via the service menu.
2) I use setCPU to set the phone to use the "performance" scheduler whenever the screen is on, locking it at 2.5Ghz.
Still isn't perfect, but it helps substantially. Obviously this is in addition to changing the launcher.
It's just one of those things. As you say, CM12 just isn't stable and worryingly seems to be going backwards, getting less and less stable with each passing nightly. The camera is also completely crap on AOSP roms. Nexus devices are great but the N5 is old and the N6 is too big and expensive. The S5 lags too, and while Note 4 is supposed to be good, but I simply won't believe that Touchwiz lag is gone without seeing it with my own eyes. Even if it has gone, Touchwiz remains the ugliest skin I've ever seen. Sony phones are nice, but they aren't packaged anywhere near as tightly as the G3, which is it's biggest strength: 22mm shorter than an iPhone 6+, with the same size screen. That's impressive. HTC's are just ridiculously large for a given screen size. The 1+1 is old now, and doesn't support all LTE bands used in the UK.
There is no perfect phone. Whichever you choose, there are compromises to be made. However IMHO the G3 strikes the best compromise available today, at least once running the latest Lollipop build and with the tweaks I mentioned above applied.
Had most 2014 flagships and G3 is deff fav so far, didnt have KK as updated to LP out the box had little lag after ota but common just needed a factory reset and all good since
Just a tip you can use on any android phone, go to settings, developer options, and set all the animations to 0.5x. This drastically reduces the time the animations take, and it gives a very snappy experience. It makes a LOT of difference, trust me.
No lag whatsoever here. Im running Chupachups newest rom with rin kernel. I've previously owned htc one, lg g2, xperia z1 and this phone definitely outperforms them all.
Ive owned the Xperia Z1, HTC One M7, and tbh id rate this better than both, i would like the battery life to be better my Z1 was amazing for that buh im custom stock rom and i dont get lag, everything is as it should be.
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I know this is going to sound very much like a first world problem, but this phone is frustratingly ****. It is easily the buggiest, slowest, most laggy phone I have ever had.
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Has anyone achieved bliss with this phone? Is there any ROMS, AOSP or LG based, that are fast, (Nexus 5 fast), and bug free?
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Is it hardware based lag or is there something else inherently wrong with the phone?
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Because LL is still unstable and buggy? And so is any rom based on it?..
Stock firmware sucks because of LG's software - it's very badly written. Almost as bad as touchwiz is. (I used SGS3, trust me on that one...)
AOSP/CM based firmwares are better, but they still suffer due do LL newness. Wait till android 5.1, things may become better.
There is also a hardware issue: unbelievably bad heat management. They used 8974ac, but had not made any cooling system. No radiators, no heat spread throughout the case, and it's facing LCD panel - which is a very bad radiator. GG WP, throttling kick in, phone starts to lag, etc etc etc.
I think there may be problem with your unit... Try to send it back to get a replacement or have it serviced.
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I agree that most of the stock LG-G3 roms, Lollipop/Kitkat, if not rooted and without any mods, LAG is unavoidable. The case is, some people can't root their phones and most of them will try searching why G3 stock rom is lagging... if I'm one of them and I happen to see this post, I would feel bad and feel stupid at the same time why I spend money buying a crappy phone.
Well anyways, try Crash Rom v2.0. It is a stock based ROM like chupachups. The animation is not as fluid as CM but I won't say that it's lagging. Compared to CM, I have not yet encountered any bugs and mostly the camera is better. If you're interested you can also downgrade the resolution to 1080p, this will enhance your g3, 3d and 2d graphics performance.
Hi im all so on lollipop 5.0 updated out of the box and its all good maybe some lag not much to notice. Still no root method yet for stock lollipop 5.0 and i dont want to downgrade to kk so il have patience and wait for new root method for me g3
Wow, I went from the nexus 5, to the htc m8, to the g3 all in year. My advice, play with this one to get the phone lag gone. This by far is the best. Like a previous person said, turn off animations and change the launcher.
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I think there may be problem with your unit... Try to send it back to get a replacement or have it serviced.
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Can't be an issue with the phone, as it is lag free with CM based ROMS.
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I agree that most of the stock LG-G3 roms, Lollipop/Kitkat, if not rooted and without any mods, LAG is unavoidable. The case is, some people can't root their phones and most of them will try searching why G3 stock rom is lagging... if I'm one of them and I happen to see this post, I would feel bad and feel stupid at the same time why I spend money buying a crappy phone.
Well anyways, try Crash Rom v2.0. It is a stock based ROM like chupachups. The animation is not as fluid as CM but I won't say that it's lagging. Compared to CM, I have not yet encountered any bugs and mostly the camera is better. If you're interested you can also downgrade the resolution to 1080p, this will enhance your g3, 3d and 2d graphics performance.
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I'll give crash a go this afternoon and report back. Hopefully 5.1 ROMS fix the issue too.
dspcap said:
Wow, I went from the nexus 5, to the htc m8, to the g3 all in year. My advice, play with this one to get the phone lag gone. This by far is the best. Like a previous person said, turn off animations and change the launcher.
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Already done all that. Animations are turned off, launcher animations are set to lightning fast, CPU throttling is turned off. I've tried all the tricks in the book. Fact is, LG based software is crap, just like Samsung.
So far today, the lock-screen has only frozen on me four times, which is good.
I'm not sure if I'd rather put up with a laggy phone or a buggy phone.
My phone is currently on V20h. Apart from the occasional Home launcher crash, I've not had any lag that I notice of. The last time there was any lag was on V10i. My phone is rooted but is not running any mods.
Prior to this, I've had the Note 3 and Xperia S. Compared to the G3, I would say that the smoothness is at the very least, on par with the Note 3 running on stock.
I've seen people complaining about the G3 being laggy too. Is your phone by any chance the 2 GB RAM version?
My phone is the 2gb version, but I always have at least close to 300mb free. Sometimes I have over 1gb free. Not that it should matter though, as I have read on numerous places that the 3gb version lags too, and that both phones are very close on performance. The extra 1gb of RAM is negligible.
Just flashing Crash ROM now. I think I'm going to regret it though, as I much prefer the look of AOSP anyway.
Ah crap. Just as I flash the ROM, I read that the dev is stopping support for our device. Based on the comments, it looks like a promising ROM.