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The HTCANDROID project! Let's get it running!

Hey!
As i've previously mentioned here once (I think), i started a small forum where I tried to gather all the setups for running Android on various HTC models. Now that the HTC G1 (Dream) is soon released, we will will get some very interesting challenges while trying to build Android ROM's, etc..
This forum is great, but its also very big. Thought that it might be a good idea to have our android resources on a separate forum?
Anyways, thought i could register a domain and such, but for now the forum is at http://www.connect-utb.com/htcandroid
Some of you are there already! Hopefully, with the experienced user base we have here, we can get Android ROMS and whatnot for our HTC models, as the HTC Dream looks rather poor. (Although better devices will surely come in the future).

you must be joking. Android is a total OS unlike apps that we see all over which are portable among HTC devices. It takes months alone just to get Android as it is today for the kaiser. Mostly everything for WM can be ported among other devices which some exceptions to nontouch devices. It'll be a long time until you see Android ported over to more devices than now. My suggestion would be to use a device that's got android projects already in progress or at your nearest convenience to buy a device with android on it.

Think we misunderstand each other, but you dont believe that if we can extract the android ROM from the HTC Dream, and modify and install it on lets say, the Kaiser?

You can always try before saying that it isn't going to work.
I will track this post because i'm very curious by the Android OS.

I get it...and completely understand what this is about...it's HTC...which means theoretically we should be able to at least somewhat get it working...I've started a wizard thread on your new forum in hopes that any information or progress getting it ported over gets posted all in one location for easy access....kudo's for thinking ahead as I dont think android is going anywhere soon and while this forum is very useful it's mostly for winmo devices....nothing wrong with speading the wings a lil bit and branching out...
looking forward to the press conference!!

I would say we should be able to get Android to run on the OS level of our devices, but it will probably need a bit of modifying. However, since it's open source I'm hoping the modifying will be a lot easier because of this.

Hey,
I was just on HTC homepage ( htc.com ), where the G1 is shown.
They printed the specs, which are very similar to the diamond
Same chipset, same rom size, same ram size,...
SO I think, it would be ( maybe easily?) possible to port android to the diamond
greets doena

WatskeBart said:
I will track this post because i'm very curious by the Android OS.
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Same here!

If my memory does not fail, I remember that one of the first peaks at Android was being run in a Blue Angel. So, I guess there is a big chance that we might in fact be able to see Android running on more than one device (of course, you will have more or less features depending on the device's capabilities and hardware limitations, namely apps that work with an accelerometer, etc).
Maybe, the development should be worth following because as much as I don't want to believe it, my device (Blue Angel) will only trick death for so long (by death I mean not being able to move to newer versions of WM) and we will need a way to pass the time .

HTC Touch Vogue in progress of being ported
Hey don't forget about the senior member "DZO" that started ANDROID porting to HTC Vogue and it is Successful
This is his direct link to the files : http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue
And here is the link to the posting: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382265
I think he did a GREAT job porting Android. I am running Android 0.9 with most of the featuress except installing programs but only because he is the only one that does that. So, he needs help! I am sure... Plus, on this site people are cheeping in for HTC Diamond so he can work on that too...
Here is the link: http://www.myhtcphone.com
So, if you want something done we should start by contributing either money, or programming support! I wish I knew how to program this
ahhhh I wish I would have fully functional Android on my HTC

Thanks for the support! The forums are slightly active now!
Hopefully, we will be able to get Android running more or less flawless soon! As pointed out, its possible!

he he nice link, it seems that there are allready htc devices running with android.

just wondering, is it possible to have dual boot in one device ?

hmmm, seems to have no desktop syncing.. this may be a huge set back for anyone trying to get androig running on another HTC device.

crescentsaber said:
just wondering, is it possible to have dual boot in one device ?
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well currently (or in the case of the vogue) android is being booted via haret (a linux bootloaded) running on top of windows mobile.. so i guess its already kind of dual boot

For now, Android has to be run from within Windows Mobile, so no true dual boot yet

Already started
Hey you guys might want to check out the following links. Over at PPC Geeks they already have a thread going:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=23244
Also if you want to download the current Android cab for HTC go to:
http://www.myhtcphone.com/

doena said:
Hey,
I was just on HTC homepage ( htc.com ), where the G1 is shown.
They printed the specs, which are very similar to the diamond
Same chipset, same rom size, same ram size,...
SO I think, it would be ( maybe easily?) possible to port android to the diamond
greets doena
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Diamond doesnt have QWERTY keyboard, so i think it could be on Touch Pro instead

Someone ported Android for BlueAngel?
Please can someone tell me if Android is already running in BlueAngel? If there is a way show me how. Thanks Man!!!

Maybe I'm mistaken, but wasn't Android made so that it can run on a wide range of devices. I, for one, can't wait till its ported to samsung omnia. Damn, that would be good!
@Coldheat,
What does the cab file do? Its an OS, so cab file??

WebOS Source Code released

I read that palm released the complete sourcecode of WebOS and put this under gpl.
http://opensource.palm.com
maybe its possible to port WebOS to the Touch HD or is the hardware plattform to different?

As much as i would be interested in having webOS on the touch hd, the OS has no software keyboard and we havent got android (also based on linux) running yet so i wouldnt hold your breath...

of cause the hardware platform is different
same deal with blackstone and diamond and touch pro
they too can't share roms
but if drivers for all the hardware in blackstone were
rewritten to webos it would work

Rudegar said:
of cause the hardware platform is different
same deal with blackstone and diamond and touch pro
they too can't share roms
but if drivers for all the hardware in blackstone were
rewritten to webos it would work
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but considering the time and effort required to rewrite all these drivers, itd simply be better to just buy a pre

Cooked Android Rom on HD2?

I was wondering if it would be possible to flash an android rom onto the HD2. Or if space could posibly allow to have both WM6.5 and Android on the device and you can boot one or the other by means of choocing one during boot phase of the device.

DaveLeh said:
I was wondering if it would be possible to flash an android rom onto the HD2. Or if space could posibly allow to have both WM6.5 and Android on the device and you can boot one or the other by means of choocing one during boot phase of the device.
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the beta Android for Touch HD is getting slightly matured now, but still pretty unusable, other than that, it is very hard to tell if the Android can be cooked and become fully working with any WM phones now. But if someone can get Android working, this is gonna be really exciting!

the furtherest along is the polaris/vogue/kaiser port and that is still not at a working rom yet, getting close now but no rom yet, still using harret to boot it.

For me, getting Android working correctly is a much higher priority than being able to boot straight into Android - effectively, all the need to boot WM and use haret does is increase the boot time.
Anyway, I do hope that Android is ported to the HD2, but WM7 is a higher priority because I can already run Android on my Touch Diamond...

Thanks for the replies. I didn't know there already was a port and you could boot Android inside WM. Since I own a Polaris I tried that the last few hours and Android works like a charm. It's a pretty neet OS.
I think if HD2 becomes popular, there might be a port for HD2, too. So there is actually no real need for my idea of a dual boot launcher, since booting it from inside WM is functional, too.
I really wouldn't want to miss out on Windows Mobile, even when Android is pretty nice.

The HTC Dragon may be the phone to consider if you want Android on a HD2-like device. Looks pretty similar to the HD2 in terms of specs; 1GHz Snapdragon, capacitive touchscreen, all the rest, but a slightly rounded and more chin-like format. Looks to me like a cross between the HTC Hero and the HD2.
http://www.engadget.com/tag/dragon/

For the chef experts out there... If you had to put a percentage on the chance that someone will cook up an Adroid 2.0 ROM that will work seemlessly for the HD2, what would it be?
Also, might this news have any effect on it? http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/android-2-0-ported-to-original-t-mobile-g1-video/

i wanna know too

kingrichards said:
i wanna know too
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This thread has been dead for over 5 months! I've seen you in other android for HD2 threads... you already know that there is a linux/android port being worked on. The linux project thread is in the roms section. What is it you wanna know that's not already known?

[Q] Does anyone have HP614C with Android2.2?

Does anyone have installed to HP614C a Android2.2 software?
Please advice if this someday will it can be installed and will it be stable?
I have read about the dual boot.
Thank you.

second that!

mendel129 said:
second that!
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Yes but there is not answer if this can be done now!

Never heard of Android on 614c. I heard of it successfully run on some HTC devices (Tilt II), but this one is manufactured by a different company, so I don't think it will ever be possible

there is a thread regarding booting aOS on 614c. The memeber who tried (natively, no haret involved) told it is working but most of the functions do not work. I tried to beg him/pm him for boot loader instructions etc to no avail until now. So it is possible as pxa is now supported within android. he told that calls did work but no camera net or wifi was there. I myself would like to test it. actually i think the farthest we can get is 1.6. i think 2.1 demands more resources like 3d and andr 2.2 fixes the speed greatly for 2.1.
Please seniors, do some devel regarding this. if we have an inital rom/howto someone might be interrested in developing it a little further.
Kudos to this board!
here is the first topic regarding this:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=464998&highlight=android
Also here is my pm with the guy who managed it and told some info and advised us not to bother (tonev)
"Why would you need android there are so many things that don't work, you can't take pictures with the camera, no sound (but you can make calls and you can hear the other person and he can hear you perfectly)"

That's what I really meant... probably you can boot it (I think you can also boot Linux), but a lot of stuff doesn't work, and probably never will because there are no drivers for the hardware. Android development only respects hardware in devices that are *made for* android, so I doubt there'll ever be any drivers for our hardware, especially since it was built by some company that doesn't build any devices anymore. HTC reuses hardware in lots of devices, so there's a higher probability with an HTC device that hardware is supported.

Hi,
Does anyone make some progress on this project?
Thanks!

Hi,
Any update on this?

[Q] Porting windows mobile on 7 inch tablet please help!

Hi folks,
i have an idea. i am so much fond of windows mobile 6.5.3 and i really like it. i think it's one of the best os for tablets, especially at 7 inches. now you can google for the mangrove 7 to get the idea. unfortunally, the mangrove 7 has never been in production. so i thought of creating my own: i have found a device with almost the same specifications as the hd2. so it must be possible to port that image onto the device. the device is called: huawei ideos s7 slim.
my question: is it possible to run windows mobile on this device by porting the hd2 rom on it? heres why i think:
the both have:
qualcomm 8250 1ghz
adreno 200
and everything else like gps thats involved with the qualcomm chip.
does anyone have an idea how i get the windows mobile on to this specific tablet?
many thanks!
Jakob Sebens

sure its not impissible. but i diubt it will happen. there is hardly any community supportfor that device. alot of work will be required.

hi, thanks for your reply,
why is alot of working needs to be done?
i thougth it was only a matter of flashing the hd2 rom on the device since they have almost identical specs. or must there be done something to make the device accessible for flashing alternative roms?
best regards and thanks for answering!

jakobsebens said:
hi, thanks for your reply,
why is alot of working needs to be done?
i thougth it was only a matter of flashing the hd2 rom on the device since they have almost identical specs. or must there be done something to make the device accessible for flashing alternative roms?
best regards and thanks for answering!
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Sure. but you need to understand slot...
1) you need a tool to crack the bootloader.
2) you need to write XIP scripts, files etc. you need to build a kitchen.
3) BASICALLY slot of work will be needed! I say it is not impossible but 99% unlikely to happen.
4) Community support! you need at least 15 devs on this project...
Think about the TG01 .. same specs isnt enough! my TG01has virtually the same specs as the HD2 but it still cant get a decent Android Port/ROM dump from HD2. Same snapdragon CPU/GPU, screen, OS, etc.

same specs does not mean same hardware.
if you learned a bit of digital electronics, surely you know about hardware addresses, etc. in our case, device X for hardware A maybe located at address 0x1234 but the same device on hardware B could be located at 0x1000. these addresses are generally hardcoded in ROMs. it's a lot of work to identify those differences & make the necessary modifications.
(a device can be many things - buttons, screen, touch sensor, speaker, mic, communication ports, etc...)

very much thanks for theses replies, consider this thread closed then. i will buy an htc athena then. thanks all for your help.
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