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Activesync - Mail Push with multiple servers?

Hi guys
I'm wondering whether it is somehow possible to override the limitation of Activesync in WM and sync mails with more than 1 server?
I use mail-push for corporate mails, but would like of course to sync also my private mail2web - account.

what's the latest on this? sorry to revive such an old topic.

As far as I know, you'd have to use an alternative client to sync with multiple servers/

What if I want my handheld to sync to one exchange server just for email and another for contacts, calendar, and tasks?

At this time ActiveSync only supports 1 server.

mail from one exchange server, calendar/contacts from another...
Thanks to zim2323 on ppcgeeks:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=742617
Thought I would share it as i've been trying to figure out how sync my corporate email & calendar via one activesync server (company) and google contacts via another (the google server). So now I have both personal email (gmail IMAP) and work email (Exchange) and my personal contacts imported into the native contacts list.
Hope someone else finds this useful.
BTW, I also set HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\ActiveSync\EnableNonLocalCrossPollination to "1" instead of "0".

And now???
No news about multiple accounts setup?
As gmail is now provideing push access this becomes more than frustrating to be limited to one push server!!!!!!
You're too lazy MS!

Activesync does support multiple servers if you are not syncing the same items with both.
For example:
I sync my calendar and contacts with google sync and sync just my email with the company I work for.
You just have to go into the pocket outlook and create a new account as if you were creating a pop3 or imap account and then select Exchange Server. You however can NOT sync contacts or email or anything with both.

i700plus said:
Activesync does support multiple servers if you are not syncing the same items with both.
For example:
I sync my calendar and contacts with google sync and sync just my email with the company I work for.
You just have to go into the pocket outlook and create a new account as if you were creating a pop3 or imap account and then select Exchange Server. You however can NOT sync contacts or email or anything with both.
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Thx for your answer. That's what I am using.
Bu I want to use the push mode fo both accounts and Activesync does nto support it... Which is a pity!

Google sync on HTC hero with mail app?

After the new announcement for push email on the iphone using microsoft exchange, I have become interested in attempting this on my hero.
I know I can add gmail accounts to both the gmail app and the mail app on the hero, but there is a reason I want to try the exchange method. The gmail app gets push email, but the mail app doesn't. However, I much prefer the mail app on the hero, along with the mail widget. If using this method will work, it can mean I can use the mail app, along with push gmail.
Has anyone tried to add their gmail account to their hero using this method? I've tried, but it says it is unable to add the account. The account is verified successfuly, it just cannot be added. I'm not sure whether or not this is a temporary issue.
Any input will be appreciated. Thanks.

I was unable to add an exchange account (gmail) this afternoon, but I am now able to do so. Probably too many people rush to try that earlier today.
I added my second gmail account as an exchange account, and then set sync frequency as "as items arrive" i.e. push. Emails indeed arrive very quickly.
The problem is, I cannot send email! I tried composing a new mail, or replying to a received email. After I press "Send", the mail app acted like the email was sent but the other side never it. What's more, I couldn't find the email I sent in the "Sent" or "Out" or "Draft" folders. Manually refreshing the account doesn't seem to work either. I don't know if this is the problem of the mail app, or the problem with gmail's server.
Another problem is, com.htc.provider got force closed very frequently... although it has no problem restarting itself.

Okay, now I realize the com.htc.provider problem is caused by Peep rather than Google Sync http://bit.ly/5uWoi
The problem about sending email still exist though, and some of my received emails are getting "error" as their subjects, although the bodies of the emails display fine.

tsekh501 said:
I added my second gmail account as an exchange account, and then set sync frequency as "as items arrive" i.e. push. Emails indeed arrive very quickly.
The problem is, I cannot send email! I tried composing a new mail, or replying to a received email. After I press "Send", the mail app acted like the email was sent but the other side never it. What's more, I couldn't find the email I sent in the "Sent" or "Out" or "Draft" folders. Manually refreshing the account doesn't seem to work either. I don't know if this is the problem of the mail app, or the problem with gmail's server.
... and some of my received emails are getting "error" as their subjects, although the bodies of the emails display fine.
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Its the same for me:
* sent emails never received by the other side, ... :-(
* some emails have "error" as their sender instead of the correct email adress :-(
Any ideas for solution are welcome.
Best from Germany

accuphase said:
Its the same for me:
* sent emails never received by the other side, ... :-(
* some emails have "error" as their subjects :-(
Any ideas for solution are welcome.
Best from Germany
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I have the same problem. Maybe there's something wrong with Google's IMAP service? I have restored to an old backup just in case it was a settings issue but it still doesn't work.
Hope there is a solution soon.

Tried using the HTC Mail app and IMAP for Gmail seems to be working just fine. But the Google Mail app is still not working.
Any idea how to set the IMAP setting for the Google Mail app manually?

Don't mix up IMAP with Exchange (Google Sync).
IMAP for Gmail (or Google Apps) has been working perfectly for me, but IMAP does not support push.
Exchange Server for Gmail (or Google Apps) supports push and push email works fine. But it has problem sending out emails and some emails received has "error" as their subjects.
Why is Exchange Server for Gmail useful? Well, it is useful if you have more than one Gmail/Google Apps account (my first one is my personal Gmail account, and the second one is my university's Google Apps email account) The built in Gmail app support push, but it only support one account. Before Google enabled Exchange Server for Gmail yesterday, the only way to set up the other Gmail account is to set it up as a IMAP account. Now I can set it up as an Exchange Server account to get push email, however it is having problem mentioned above... I am not sure if this is a problem with Gmail's server or a problem with the HTC mail app.
To set up IMAP for Google App, just set it up as normal Gmail (i.e. imap.gmail.com and smtp.gmail.com, yes SSL), and enter the whole Google App email address as your username.
To set up Exchange for Gmail or Google App, use m.google.com as sever name and leave domain blank. Enter your Google account username and password, and if you are using Google App, enter the whole email address as username as above.

Hi tsekh501,
have you any news on this topic?
Would love to hear good / working news ... ;-)

Receiving "error" in the subject line here too. I am very interested to learn if any further progress been made..

tsekh501 said:
Don't mix up IMAP with Exchange (Google Sync).
IMAP for Gmail (or Google Apps) has been working perfectly for me, but IMAP does not support push.
Exchange Server for Gmail (or Google Apps) supports push and push email works fine. But it has problem sending out emails and some emails received has "error" as their subjects.
Why is Exchange Server for Gmail useful? Well, it is useful if you have more than one Gmail/Google Apps account (my first one is my personal Gmail account, and the second one is my university's Google Apps email account) The built in Gmail app support push, but it only support one account. Before Google enabled Exchange Server for Gmail yesterday, the only way to set up the other Gmail account is to set it up as a IMAP account. Now I can set it up as an Exchange Server account to get push email, however it is having problem mentioned above... I am not sure if this is a problem with Gmail's server or a problem with the HTC mail app.
To set up IMAP for Google App, just set it up as normal Gmail (i.e. imap.gmail.com and smtp.gmail.com, yes SSL), and enter the whole Google App email address as your username.
To set up Exchange for Gmail or Google App, use m.google.com as sever name and leave domain blank. Enter your Google account username and password, and if you are using Google App, enter the whole email address as username as above.
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I love that Google added Gmail exchange support. IMAP Idle is close, but Exchange is true push which is necessary for some of us. I think IMAP Idle gives much better battery life though IMO

Outllook user who converted to Gmail...

I have used Outlook forever and thinking about changing but there are some things I do not know about Gmail that may not be possible. I have been stuck on Outlook because I have total control of my mailbox on my home server (.pst file) and I use a two business emails addresses from domains I own.
1. I own two domains and I have emails addresses I created from them. How or can they work in Gmail so email from my paid email addresses hit gmail then my device?
2. How much stored mail can I keep in gmail...my .pst file for Outlook is big?
I have had a gmail address for years but do not use it at all besides for the market I use emails from my domain but I would like to get the wireless sync going if it all can work in gmail...
Advise...

you can setup forwarding to forward all ur mail to gmail.
if these servers support imap/pop u can do wireless sync without having to first go to gmail. the phone fully supports configuring your own server settings for mail.

I run a small biz off of google apps.
While I'm not savvy on everything outlook has to offer at the server level, I was amazed at the options google apps domain and email hosting offered to make a transition from any platform.

Well looks like it works but I have one problem...
I setup the pop mail account in gmail from my PC off the website. I can send\compose emails and select my pop mail account to send. However from the Droid, when I compose I only see gmail...how can I see the pop I created from the website to push to my DINC? I want to be able to select the pop account I want to send from off the phone for gmail?

Best Exchange ActiveSync App alternative?

Like others I've discovered HTC Mail isn't compatible with Hotmail's Exchange ActiveSync (Gmail Exchange ActiveSync works fine).
I've installed Touchdown but dislike the interface (it's also 20 bucks!) and also Improved Mail (v1.75) which also works fine but:
1. You cannot Move e-mails into another folder
2. Unlike HTC Mail it doesn't show the amount of unread e-mails on the home screen shortcut.
3. And the killer: It support HTML e-mails. How can a modern e-mail app not support HTML e-mails?
Are there any other Exchange ActiveSync e-mail apps I can use instead? Where can I download the Google Nexus One e-mail app?

K-9 mail.
mail droid?

celestialspring said:
K-9 mail.
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Thanks but this only works with Exchange 2003 not Exchange ActiveSync:
http://code.google.com/p/k9mail/wiki/K9MailAndExchange
I've only just discovered this because I've spent the last 30 mins trying to get it to connect and it keeps timing out.
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Thanks but this only works with Exchange 2007.

Anyone? Thanks

how about Moxier Mail...
http://www.moxier.com/mail/
looks nicer than TouchDown.. although when i tested Moxier (2.7) it didnt support HTML emails on Ex.2003 unlike Touchdown.
Moxier also appears to hold the downloaded emails on the phone memory so ran out quite quickly.. Maybe 2.8 is better now. havent tried.
for now i use TouchDown when i'm away from the office.

Thanks Kazgor.
I've just installed v2.5 and it doesn't support HTML e-mail on Exchange ActiveSync either. I cannot find a newer version. What is it with HTML support?
It's no good, if it doesn't support HTML e-mail. Pity as otherwise it looks good.

Give Roadsync a try - works fine for me although needs some improvement to match the Symbian version...

I was reading another thread on this earlier this week on xda and this link was in it. It describes how to load the normal android email app. Its for 2.2. I don't know If this supports what you need.
http://digiex.net/computing-section...tc-desire-google-nexus-one-android-2-2-a.html
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Thanks guys. I've now tried:
1. Native Nexus One E-mail App
2. Improved E-Mail v1.75 (not the new v2.00 yet)
3. Touch Down
4. RoadSync
And all work perfectly fine with Hotmail's Exchange ActiveSync but none support HTML e-mail. RoadSync says it does in it's text in the market and the owner of Improved Mail says it's also supported.
So I'm thinking this is a bug with Hotmail's Exchange ActiveSync.
I've also discovered on the Improved E-Mail website (www.mwebster.us) that moving mail when using Hotmail's Exchange ActiveSync won't sync this back to the server, due to Microsoft’s implementation of Exchange ActiveSync. Great!
Thanks cjm1979. I tried that awhile ago and the same problem. Incidentally, if that really is the Native Nexus One e-mail program, it's identical to Improved E-mail. Leading me to believe, Google licensed it from the owner.
So right now, as I need HTML e-mail more than Exchange ActiveSync. I'm using the HTC Mail app with POP3 .

I've received a rather interesting reply from the owner of Improved E-Mail, regarding HTML E-mail and Moving e-mail between folders not working:
"I think the problem is that the Hotmail activesync is based on Exchange 2003 (Why I have no idea - that's 2 versions ago), and it does not send html mail to mobiles, at least to most email apps I know of - I think this may be a server side issue, but I still plan on looking at it, since I'd like to be able to receive html from other account types as well.
It *should* support marking/unmarking and deleting and having that propagate to the server. I was going to verify but I can't setup my hotmail account right now for some reason.
Also remember, hotmail doesn't 'officially' support Android yet, so maybe things will get better."

I've been using the Seven client on mine. It works with Hotmail and Exchange, with minimal configuration (less than a regular client). Not even sure if it's using Exchange ActiveSync as it has a dedicated hotmail option that works perfectly well with push mail and displays as HTML. The Exchange option asks for the webmail URL (actual URL, not just mail server) and also works perfectly well.
Hotmail option syncs contacts but doesn't offer the option to sync calendar.
Exchange option syncs all 3.
The contact search function is fairly unresponsive, as in I searched for a contact and waited ages and gave up.
The widget is very rudimentary. It takes up half the screen and shows the last 3 Exchange emails. Doesn't give me any option to choose which account it displays email for, so effectively no widget for my hotmail.
It doesn't really come close to the standard HTC mail app, other than actually working for hotmail which the HTC doesn't...
Hope this helps?
I am keen to find an alternative for HTC mail as well. I am still using my Windows Mobile 6.5 phone and no hotmail is one of the main reasons why!

Thanks Mitel.
How can I get hold of Seven Client? I cannot find it on the Market place.

mital said:
The Exchange option asks for the webmail URL (actual URL, not just mail server) and also works perfectly well.
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Can you get this working with Hotmail? I enter https://m.hotmail.com and it errors saying:
"An error occured. Please try again (100)."
Interestingly the Gmail option does offer Contacts + Calendar. Only Contacts for Hotmail, like you say. It's a brilliant application but has some problems:
1. There is no Shortcut option, so you have to open the App from the Home screen and then it takes another tap to go to my Gmail or Hotmail Inbox.
2. Because of this, the App shortcut doesn't display the Unread e-mail count.
3. The Sent folder for both Hotmail and Gmail is local only. It's impossible to either display, sync or even have e-mails sent in Hotmai's Sent Items or Gmail's Sent Mail folder. Odd!
4. If e-mail needs to be truncated it displays as Plain Text and if it doesn't need truncating, it displays as HTML (if relevant). I'd prefer all html e-mails displays as html regardless but to get the option to switch to html you have to scroll to the bottom of e-mails and some newsletters are really long. There is no option to set if e-mail is displayed as plain text of html as default.
5. As said, the widget is weak but I don't use the widget for e-mails, so this doesn't bother me.
6. It's Push Mail only. The HTC Desire's battery doesn't sadly allow me the luxury of Push Mail.
The last one is a deal breaker. It's a shame as the setup is so easy (for Gmail/Hotmail it's just the username/password) and the interface is really well thought out. The unified inbox works well too. The search function works fine for me, pulling in contacts from the phone, sim card, gmail (if relevant) and hotmail (if relevant).
I didn't bother trying the Seven IM app because it only supports Gtalk and MSN. I need both MSN and Facebook Chat/IM support.
You can download the combined Seven E-Mail + IM App from here: http://community.seven.com/main.php

I downloaded the seven app version 23.41.6437_3_z7-android2x.apk
The IM for MSN works for me but I can't do any email.....
NO:
hotmail
gmail
yahoo
exchange
I wiped my phone a couple times. Still nothing. Stock EVO....

got roadsync, works nice

Here I come to hijack a thread for a device I didn't own but stumbled across as I was googling Android email apps.
In case you weren't aware, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the email apps or the way they connect to Hotmail using the exchange protocol.
It's purely that Hotmail Exchange via m.hotmail.com doesn't support HTML yet - it's a Microsoft issue. Will they ever implement it - who knows? But the fact remains if you want your Hotmail in HTML format then you're stuck with connecting via POP3 for the moment.
HTH.

Does HTML e-mail work on supported devices like the iPhone?
It works in Touch Down on Android but the UI is pretty ugly. I understand this bends the Exchange ActiveSync rules to support it. Why MS are using Exchange 2003 is strange.

No, HTML Hotmail is a no-go regardless of the device or app you are using. Hotmail simply does not support HTML over their Exchange connection, only POP3.
If you are asking about straightforward HTML in your email when connecting to say a corporate exchange account, then yes, obviously depending on the app and version of exchange.
Sent from my HTC Liberty using Tapatalk

Thanks
HTML e-mail does work using Touch Down though. I've seen it myself (make sure you're using the latest version, it didn't use to work). That is HTML e-mail using Hotmail Exchange ActiveSync, not corporate Exchange.

bradavon said:
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HTML e-mail does work using Touch Down though. I've seen it myself (make sure you're using the latest version, it didn't use to work). That is HTML e-mail using Hotmail Exchange ActiveSync, not corporate Exchange.
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Huh, well I never. I guess I'll have to try it.

Email to Always "Load more Details"

How do you force the email client to always Load More Details or always show the complete email with full html. It initially shows up in txt, and I always have to click load more details. I want it to load details by default.
Thanks!

First of all, you can set how much email size you want to retrive in email settings. Assume you aleady set it to 'All', I'd guess you're encountering this issue receiving from Hotmail accounts. If so, this is a work around for Exchange sync deficiency on Hotmail server. Hotmail ActiveSync protocol does not officially suppor HTML email at all (I know it is lame for a MS server) at the declared protocol level. To work around this issue, email clients have to ignore the declared ActiveSync protocol version and go ahead assume it supports HTML anyway. This is how iOS and Windows Phone 7 works today. Samsung/Google seems to take a more conservative approach that it let you to force it to display HTML by click on the 'Load more details' button. If it is an true Exchange 2007 or later server, you don't need to click (and won't see) that button.
MS posted some length excuses about why it can't make Hotmail server compatible with ActiveSync 2.5 (which supports HTML email) protocol while Google has no problem make GMail support such protocol.

foxbat121 said:
First of all, you can set how much email size you want to retrive in email settings. Assume you aleady set it to 'All', I'd guess you're encountering this issue receiving from Hotmail accounts. If so, this is a work around for Exchange sync deficiency on Hotmail server. Hotmail ActiveSync protocol does not officially suppor HTML email at all (I know it is lame for a MS server) at the declared protocol level. To work around this issue, email clients have to ignore the declared ActiveSync protocol version and go ahead assume it supports HTML anyway. This is how iOS and Windows Phone 7 works today. Samsung/Google seems to take a more conservative approach that it let you to force it to display HTML by click on the 'Load more details' button. If it is an true Exchange 2007 or later server, you don't need to click (and won't see) that button.
MS posted some length excuses about why it can't make Hotmail server compatible with ActiveSync 2.5 (which supports HTML email) protocol while Google has no problem make GMail support such protocol.
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Thanks! This has been a BIG help. I didn't realize but your right. My paid for exchange account shows HTML email fine. But my hotmail account does not unless I push load more details. What if I switch the Hotmail account to a pop account. Would that help load emails as HTML?
Thanks!

Yes, it will but pop account has too many problems (sync issues, no push email featurs, no calendars, no contacts etc.). You just have to live with it for now.

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Yes, it will but pop account has too many problems (sync issues, no push email featurs, no calendars, no contacts etc.). You just have to live with it for now.
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Great! I have HTML email now. Its not push, but atleast I dont have to load more details anymore. Does POP not support folders? I only have my Inbox.
You've been a great help. I really appreciate it, this was very annoying until you resolved my issue.

Nope. Pop3 is one of the oldest protocol ever. So if you have multiple computers access the same account using pop3, it is very difficult to sync with each other. And it requires SMTP server for sending emails. Some networks won't let you pass out any SMTP mails for the sake of preventing email spammers.
Here is one of my work around:
I setup my gmail account to periodically grab emails from my Hotmail accounts from me and put a label on these emails. So all my emails goes into GMail with Hotmails with proper label. You can even setup your GMail (on the web account settings) to reply your email with your Hotmail as your return email address. This way, you get easy email management from GMail as well as proper HTML email support.

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Nope. Pop3 is one of the oldest protocol ever. So if you have multiple computers access the same account using pop3, it is very difficult to sync with each other. And it requires SMTP server for sending emails. Some networks won't let you pass out any SMTP mails for the sake of preventing email spammers.
Here is one of my work around:
I setup my gmail account to periodically grab emails from my Hotmail accounts from me and put a label on these emails. So all my emails goes into GMail with Hotmails with proper label. You can even setup your GMail (on the web account settings) to reply your email with your Hotmail as your return email address. This way, you get easy email management from GMail as well as proper HTML email support.
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Thanks! I may try this.

Thanks for the info.
I thought I was going crazy. I used iPhone 4 before and I didn't have any problem using Hotmail exchange (ActiveSync) and work Exchange. Now I have to click "Load more details" all the time on Galaxy Tab, and Infuse. It's bit of pain. I think it's more to do with the email client. If I use TouchDown or Hotmail (new from MS) client, they don't have issues.
I hope Samsung release new updated email clients.
Thanks,

You more than likely right. Its the email client, b/c the HTC Flyer and my HTC EVO3D don't have these issues.

Strange to attribute it to Samsung, Microsoft, etc., because Hotmail works normally (automatically loads all details) on Samsung's Galaxy Nexus phone. Why do they make it work (let it work?) there but not on the Galaxy tab?