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Hey. I'm having problems with the amount of available memory on my Wing. After a soft reset, I only have 27% of my memory left.. it makes it exteremely hard to multitask even a couple programs; my old mda would start off with around 52% of is memory free after a soft reset. I'm using the ROM that came with the phone; my phone was an insurance replacement and arrive a few days ago, so I think that I probably have the latest official ROM. Are there any custom ROMs out yet, for the wing, that help the memory situation, like a more stripped down version.. or any reg tweaks?
Thanks,
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Hey. I'm having problems with the amount of available memory on my Wing. After a soft reset, I only have 27% of my memory left.. it makes it exteremely hard to multitask even a couple programs; my old mda would start off with around 52% of is memory free after a soft reset. I'm using the ROM that came with the phone; my phone was an insurance replacement and arrive a few days ago, so I think that I probably have the latest official ROM. Are there any custom ROMs out yet, for the wing, that help the memory situation, like a more stripped down version.. or any reg tweaks?
Thanks,
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That looks very interesting...but this is a HTC WIZARD FORUM !
Try posting that here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=348
moving to herald.
adam79 said:
Hey. I'm having problems with the amount of available memory on my Wing. After a soft reset, I only have 27% of my memory left.. it makes it exteremely hard to multitask even a couple programs; my old mda would start off with around 52% of is memory free after a soft reset. I'm using the ROM that came with the phone; my phone was an insurance replacement and arrive a few days ago, so I think that I probably have the latest official ROM. Are there any custom ROMs out yet, for the wing, that help the memory situation, like a more stripped down version.. or any reg tweaks?
Thanks,
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ALL the custom roms for wizard are coked with 4MB pagepool. The original ROM has 12 MB - that´s the roblem. You won´t get more memory on wing/herald without custom ROMs.
20MB after hardreset is the most wecan get at the moment.
Sorry.
just wondering..
hey there! i just recently joined this forum and been readin some threads here. and so far i see people saying they have like 12mb memory on their wing... do you guys have any idea how they do that? because i check my wing i only have 2mb... so im wondering how can i improve mine.
thanks for help!
zerorei said:
hey there! i just recently joined this forum and been readin some threads here. and so far i see people saying they have like 12mb memory on their wing... do you guys have any idea how they do that? because i check my wing i only have 2mb... so im wondering how can i improve mine.
thanks for help!
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ALL the custom roms for wizard are coked with 4MB pagepool. The original ROM has 12 MB - that´s the roblem. You won´t get more memory on wing/herald without custom ROMs.
20MB after hardreset is the most wecan get at the moment.
Sorry.
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If you want a good amount of free memory you will most likely need to flash the ROM on your wing to a custom one found on this website, such as ttran's "Open Touch" (scroll down to the 3rd post to download. Several versions to choose from.) You can use the guide provided by ivanmmj, here, to help you with the process. Here (post #60) is a link to a post regarding the memory/RAM free and used for open touch. There are many other great ROMS out too, i just happen to be using Open Touch 5.0 so its easier for me to explain it. Make sure to read thoroughly to understand all the risks and benefits involved also.
I have 15-22mb free with an oem rom.
Following the directions of previous posters I changed the pagepool size to 6mb. Many posters of a few months ago were talking about how to do this. I believe there's even a cab that will do it for you.
Another way to get more memory is to buy SKTools
HTML:
http://s-k-tools.com/index.html?m_products.html#tools
which has an "optimize" feature that will free up even more memory and tweak a number of go-faster settings.
Yeah, to echo what was said before......the mem wont get better till you get into custom roms.
You do NOT have to use a custom ROM
This might seem to be against the conventional wisdom, but I'd argue that you do NOT have to use a custom ROM to improve the free memory situation on the Wing. I am running the latest official T-Mobile ROM and have about 20 MB free after a soft reset. There are a number of things you can do to increase this number without having to install a custom ROM:
(1) Change the size of the pagepool. I believe the latest T-Mobile ROM has an 8 MB pagepool. I have decreased it to 6, but others use 4 without (as far as I know) too many problems. This gives you 2 or 4 MB extra RAM.
(2) There are many more processes running (and using RAM) on the phone than you see in the standard task manager. That only shows you programs that you have opened yourself. I found that a number of these extra processes are started by shortcuts in the \Windows\StartUp folder, and therefore run when the phone turns on. Some that I removed are btdwake.lnk, My5MsgCenter.lnk, poutlook.lnk, Voice Command.lnk, and WiFiInit.lnk. You can do a search to find out what these are. If you don't use MyFaves, Voice Command, WiFi, etc. you can save a lot of memory by deleting these shortcuts from the StartUp folder. (Note: You have to rename them first, then do a soft reset, and then you will be able to delete them.)
(3) There are processes that are "services" that are always running as well. For this, I'd suggest a program like MemMaid, which shows you the "Startup Services" and allows you to disable them. I personally disabled the SMSCSend (Target: My5Client.dll) and TMW (T-Mobile HotSpot Loging Utility). There may be more. Again, I'd suggest searching for what each one is before disabling it.
Of course some people prefer custom ROMS, and that's fine. Personally, I prefer the standard WM6 Home screen to the various "Touch" interfaces touted by the custom ROMS. Installing a new ROM seemed complicated to me and a little risky for someone who hasn't done it before. Also, I didn't want to have to start from scratch with a new ROM.
Anyway, I'm posting these suggestions as an alternative for those who for whatever reason don't want to install a new ROM. Good luck!
Dear all,
Lately with the help of other forum members I've noticed that my 16GB class 2 micro SD is not working well with all cooked ROMs. I use it at the moment with the 1.66 Stock ROM- the card is full of music, photos etc. and works perfectly fine. I believe that a lot of the cooked ROMs have some kind of problem with the driver for SDHC (class 2). I know the card is slow however it works perfectly on the stock ROM. Do you have any suggestions?
I have a 16 GB SDHC class2 Scandisk
I had the same problems with the speed
I have the following solution
With an external card reader, a full formatting with 32 kb cluster
then insert the card back into the HD2 and from there own distinct once the card with the HD
Formatting tools to format and optimize
This has helped me and since then I have had no problems with the speed more
Gurgulio said:
I have a 16 GB SDHC class2 Scandisk
I had the same problems with the speed
I have the following solution
With an external card reader, a full formatting with 32 kb cluster
then insert the card back into the HD2 and from there own distinct once the card with the HD
Formatting tools to format and optimize
This has helped me and since then I have had no problems with the speed more
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I can confirm that... you can play with the formatting settings with an external formatting tool to get very good speeed...
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I can confirm that... you can play with the formatting settings with an external formatting tool to get very good speeed...
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What kind of formatting tool do you recommend. And do you think FAT 16 is better? I have read that FAT 16 with 64 kb is faster than FAT 32 with 32kb cluster.
if you format with fat 16 you have more waste with fat table
but you are right you loose space with fat 16 and win speed
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What kind of formatting tool do you recommend. And do you think FAT 16 is better? I have read that FAT 16 with 64 kb is faster than FAT 32 with 32kb cluster.
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much true, best thing is to test it out, i got approx 30% more speed (benched) but on my other card(different brand) i got only 15%), so try and see...
if chefs are removing cachefilt then you may have some issues.. but I doubt they *all* are..
do you have encryption on the card?
fards said:
if chefs are removing cachefilt then you may have some issues.. but I doubt they *all* are..
do you have encryption on the card?
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I do not have any encription. Probably "all" is a bit exagarated.. and I do appologize by all means. I have tried the following ROMs: Dutty's, Miri's, Artemis, Laurentius, Energy (with this one I had less problems..), XannyTech and several others. I mean all the chefs are doing a great job but I kept wondering why the card is working well on the stock ROMs and not on the cooked ones.
So you guys recommend formatting the card on FAT16? I am gonna try and see. Thank you all.
I don't think many chefs are removing this module but maybe I'm wrong you never know.
My experience is not many chefs are XIP patching haha..
fards said:
if chefs are removing cachefilt then you may have some issues.. but I doubt they *all* are..
do you have encryption on the card?
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Laurentius26 said:
I don't think many chefs are removing this module but maybe I'm wrong you never know.
My experience is not many chefs are XIP patching haha..
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I sometimes wonder how many actually know what the xip is never mind tweak it
I finished formating and benchmarking. The results from FAT 32 and FAT are the same. Will try reflashing and see if there's adifference but at that points I doubt it. Question still remains open - Why the heck it works fine on official ROMs and not on cooked ones..
Maybe it has something todo with this tweak just a wild ques.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\FATFS]
"CacheSize"=dword:00001000
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I finished formating and benchmarking. The results from FAT 32 and FAT are the same. Will try reflashing and see if there's adifference but at that points I doubt it. Question still remains open - Why the heck it works fine on official ROMs and not on cooked ones..
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Did we ever reach a definitive answer?
Same problem but with 8Gb card. I'm trying to active FATFS cache in registry. I'll let you know when test.
I have had my HD2 for about a year now and are going to hard reset it for the 3rd time. I am not very fund of Manila, and have been using the SPB Mobile Shell until now (love the flexability). However now that I am resetting it once more, what is the must have installations for music, video and performance, and most important, which OS to go for? Should I try to gingerbread it and go Android, or is there Win7 possibilities?
Any advice appreciated!
WinMo7 is possible but I would go for Energy 6.5.5 29xxx builds, they have non sence builds with android style homescreen so may have something of interest.
I find sense with CHT mod hard to beat myself & well setup wm6.5.5 is hard to beat in all round professional use.
For video coreplayer, music (i use HTC sence player) but pocket player is very good.
If serious on Android I would recommend try a native device for a while to see if you really like it !
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WinMo7 is possible but I would go for Energy 6.5.5 29xxx builds, they have non sence builds with android style homescreen so may have something of interest.
I find sense with CHT mod hard to beat myself & well setup wm6.5.5 is hard to beat in all round professional use.
For video coreplayer, music (i use HTC sence player) but pocket player is very good.
If serious on Android I would recommend try a native device for a while to see if you really like it !
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Thanks for the reply. The reason for thinking of converting to android was basically due to apps and such, but is really not a must. I've seen a few vids on youtube of how to convert to WinMo7 and Android, and it looks pretty straight forward, however if something goes wrong, could you easily go back to the original setup?
Also, I've seen some vids of the energy 6.5.5 setup, and it looks like the standard HTC theme, with some added possibilities for shortcuts etc. However, if this is manly the only reason I am pretty sure I would rather continue to use SPB Mobile Shell.
I too was a WinMo fan for years and only started on Android for fun, didnt expect to migrate. I started of just booting it now and again via SD card from widows untill I realised I was using it more and more till the point where it was automatically booting after windows on startup via bootloader.
Now ive been using Android non-stop for about a year first on my blackstone (HD1) and now on my Leo (HD2).
I honestly think you should just go the Android route on your device and leave WM6.5 behind like the rest of us. You can even use SPB Mobile shell on there if you like (leaked version) that way you still have same experience you had before but with all the apps/games of android.
And yes, to answer your question is extremely easy to go back if you change your mind. To revert everything you simply flash WM6.5 rom back on via tri-color bootloader (hold vol down and press power).
The posts above have given you very good sound advice. The only thing I want to add is before going completely Andriod with a NAND ROM. Try a Andriod SD card build first to see if you really want to go full on Andriod.
@ TheATHEiST, thanks. Thats the sort of advice I was looking for
@ T-Macgnolia, Sounds very vice to try a SD version first. I am currently using a SanDisk 16GB HC card, but I think it is pretty slow compared to the faster ones (judging from the price I paid).
By doing android via SD card, what is the easiest route for installing? Seen so many different guides, hard to know which work best.
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@ TheATHEiST, thanks. Thats the sort of advice I was looking for
@ T-Macgnolia, Sounds very vice to try a SD version first. I am currently using a SanDisk 16GB HC card, but I think it is pretty slow compared to the faster ones (judging from the price I paid).
By doing android via SD card, what is the easiest route for installing? Seen so many different guides, hard to know which work best.
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If you have the 16GB SD card that comes with the T-Mobile HD2 it works great, this is the card I use for my SD Andriod build. All SD Andriod builds are the same, all you do is download the build, extract the zip file, (most builds create and extract to a folder named Andriod) copy the Andriodine folder to theroot of your SD card, then use the file explorer to open the Andriod folder and touch on CLCAD first to enable the sound in Andriod (it will appear as nothing appended but that is normal), then touch on HARET and you will see a box that says "Booting Leniux" then you will see a black screen with tiny writting at the top left corner of the phone screen then you will see the black screen with HTC in green then the screen will go completely black for a bit (some builds have a custom s reengineering for here so it may be different), last you will see the lock screen for the Andriod and you are booted and ready to go. Remember the first boot can take up to five to ten minutes so be patient but the .pot up time will not be that long after the first time.
Ok, dosent seems like its too diffucult then. The SD card that came with the phone only had 2GB storage capacity so I bought the 16GB straight away. Do I need to do a backup on the SD card? I have alot of photos etc. Also, I probably need a radio update (not that I've managed to understand what the radio is, except it does not play music ^^,)?
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Ok, dosent seems like its too diffucult then. The SD card that came with the phone only had 2GB storage capacity so I bought the 16GB straight away. Do I need to do a backup on the SD card? I have alot of photos etc. Also, I probably need a radio update (not that I've managed to understand what the radio is, except it does not play music ^^,)?
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Yes I highly recomend making a back up copy of your SD card as the Adriod is going to make several folders and things on your SD card on the first bootup. This way you will know what was on there before you booted Andriod. I also suggest you flash radio version 2.15.50.14 as it is the latest radio version and it works good with Andriod be it SD or NAND. The radio is whaf controls certain aspects like your phone reception, voice quality, and such. Go the the master radio threadcthat is stickied in the HD2 Windows Mobile development forum here on XDA to learn more about it and you can download that radio version to flash there.
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Yes I highly recomend making a back up copy of your SD card as the Adriod is going to make several folders and things on your SD card on the first bootup. This way you will know what was on there before you booted Andriod. I also suggest you flash radio version 2.15.50.14 as it is the latest radio version and it works good with Andriod be it SD or NAND. The radio is whaf controls certain aspects like your phone reception, voice quality, and such. Go the the master radio threadcthat is stickied in the HD2 Windows Mobile development forum here on XDA to learn more about it and you can download that radio version to flash there.
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Ok, thaks alot for the help. I will give it a try after I backup the SD card. Any particular SD-card Android version you recommend?
edit: I found this list http://android.hd2roms.com/
Besides from knowing I want a SD version I am not sure which I should try. Just go for the one that was updated most recently?
mikkeltysland said:
Ok, thaks alot for the help. I will give it a try after I backup the SD card. Any particular SD-card Android version you recommend?
edit: I found this list http://android.hd2roms.com/
Besides from knowing I want a SD version I am not sure which I should try. Just go for the one that was updated most recently?
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I do not have a particular build I woulx recomend as the ons I currentky use is discontinued but go to the link below and search through tbe builds I am sure you will find one uou like.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=735k
You might want to check out some dual boot apps to like the one I havs linked below. I use the secound one.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/rundroid-dual-boot-to-android-sd-or-windows-mobile-6/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=737001
There is a lot more of these apps out too if you want to look.
Thanks for all the help. I found a good guide and a decent build. Was really easy in the end
Only thing I struggeling with now is getting the 3G to work..
mikkeltysland said:
Thanks for all the help. I found a good guide and a decent build. Was really easy in the end
Only thing I struggeling with now is getting the 3G to work..
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Do you have a active data connection at all? If you have one then the APN is set for your carrier but if you do not then you will have to set up your APN settings. I do appologize as the only APN settings I know is the ones for US T-Mobile.So unless house are a US T-Mobile customer I do not know them. You can probabky Google your carrier or search g their web site and find the APN you need to enter. In Andriod go to Settings/Wireless and Networks/ Wireless connection (I think doing this from memory here) then touch on APN then press the Windows hard Start button and touchon add.
Android is the best
I have been using my HTC HD2 (1024) for over a year now with WM6.5 with very few problems. I have been using OzRom and its been stable and great. However having seen alot about WM7 i was thinking about upgrading. After scoring this website for ages i am puzzled by a couple of things:
1) there used to be a section for HTC HD2 (512) and HTC HD" (1024) but now it all seems cluttered together. A year ago when i flashed WM6.5 to my phone, i had to make sure i got the right ROM so i didnt brick my phone. Is this not the case anymore?
2) Some of the WM7 ROMs i looked at dont say whether they work on HTC HD2 (512) or HTC HD2 (1024). Some said they work, but only 512mb will be used. Is it worth upgrading if i can only use half my ram, or am i missing something?
3) What is the best WM7 ROM to use with a HTC HD2 (1024). i would like full use of 1024mb RAM, Stable and cracked(?) so everything works on it. (my friend bought a HTC phone from a shop in China and found out that nothing worked on it as it wasnt cracked)
Thanks in advance!
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I have been using my HTC HD2 (1024) for over a year now with WM6.5 with very few problems. I have been using OzRom and its been stable and great. However having seen alot about WM7 i was thinking about upgrading. After scoring this website for ages i am puzzled by a couple of things:
1) there used to be a section for HTC HD2 (512) and HTC HD" (1024) but now it all seems cluttered together. A year ago when i flashed WM6.5 to my phone, i had to make sure i got the right ROM so i didnt brick my phone. Is this not the case anymore?
After the reorganization that has been made to the HD2 forum, the Tmo[1024] has been mixed with the Eu[512]. But you, still, have to make sure you flash the correct radio so that you dont brick your device
2) Some of the WM7 ROMs i looked at dont say whether they work on HTC HD2 (512) or HTC HD2 (1024). Some said they work, but only 512mb will be used. Is it worth upgrading if i can only use half my ram, or am i missing something?
First of all, [1024] is the internal memory size not the RAM. Second of all,Currently WP7 can only use 512 MB of internal memory whether you had the Tmo or Eu. so it wouldn't matter.Third of all, WP7 works on all HD2 versions [Eu and Tmo] You only have to have the proper Radio. (And if you ask for my personal opinion, I prefer Android over WP7. and yes it worths upgrading, since WP7 actually considers the SD card as the internal storage
3) What is the best WM7 ROM to use with a HTC HD2 (1024). i would like full use of 1024mb RAM, Stable and cracked(?) so everything works on it. (my friend bought a HTC phone from a shop in China and found out that nothing worked on it as it wasnt cracked)
"Again" [1024] is the size of your internal memory, and has nothing to do with your device's RAM. Both Eu and Tmo have a RAM of 576 MB.There is no best ROM. Every ROM has its hacks (though most of the ROMS are the Same), but I'd suggest you try XBMOD's ROM first. And WP7 doesn't need any "hacking" it only needs to be unlocked and activated (optional, necessary for using the Live services) . Most of the ROMS out there are Chevron Unlocked "Hacked" you only have to activate it with the code (which can be obtained from Microsoft).
Thanks in advance!
No Problem, Anytime buddy
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How are you doing today? what a nice weather.
Thanks alot, this is very helpful. Ill check out that ROM and hopefully start using WM7. Once again thanks, this website is by far the most helpful!
So, with help from XDA dev, i have now put MP7 on my HTC HD2 (t-mobile). im a complete noob, but heres what i did if you want to copy!
1) Installed HSPL3 (i actually didnt need to, it was already installed, but nevermind!)
2) I upgraded the radio to 2.12.50.02
3) Installed MAGLDR113
4) Installed ROM, contacted microsoft for code and started playing!
However i have a few problems:
1) MP7 is smooth, but about 2 or 3 times every 10mins it hangs or gets stuck
2) Alot of time when i try to start an app, it says its loading, then returns to the start list. Then i try it again, same thing. When i try it later, its fine.
3) Zune says i have a 14 day trial. does that mean after 14 days i cant sync thing on my phone or download free apps?
4) MOST IMPORTANT! Phone cant read chinese. i tried about 10 different apps from the marketplace that say they can do chinese. I can send messages in chinese, but my wife (who is chinese!) cant read them. The message shows some chinese characters, but also symbols and squares. Its the same when she sends me a message. The phone must be able to see chinese because it shows some characters. On my old WM6.5, i had two files i had to install 1) Chinese font 2) Chinese input keyboard program. Is there anything like that for WP7?
Many Thanks again to all you helpful people!
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So, with help from XDA dev, i have now put MP7 on my HTC HD2 (t-mobile). im a complete noob, but heres what i did if you want to copy!
1) Installed HSPL3 (i actually didnt need to, it was already installed, but nevermind!)
2) I upgraded the radio to 2.12.50.02
3) Installed MAGLDR113
4) Installed ROM, contacted microsoft for code and started playing!
However i have a few problems:
1) MP7 is smooth, but about 2 or 3 times every 10mins it hangs or gets stuck
That problem is with your device only, try to do everything again after doing a task29 (search for it) or try to use radio 2.15.
2) Alot of time when i try to start an app, it says its loading, then returns to the start list. Then i try it again, same thing. When i try it later, its fine.
Same as the first.
3) Zune says i have a 14 day trial. does that mean after 14 days i cant sync thing on my phone or download free apps?
The 14 days trial is probably Zune Pass, after expiration you WILL still be able to sync. But you wont be able to download music for free, you'd have to buy them with $$$.
4) MOST IMPORTANT! Phone cant read chinese. i tried about 10 different apps from the marketplace that say they can do chinese. I can send messages in chinese, but my wife (who is chinese!) cant read them. The message shows some chinese characters, but also symbols and squares. Its the same when she sends me a message. The phone must be able to see chinese because it shows some characters. On my old WM6.5, i had two files i had to install 1) Chinese font 2) Chinese input keyboard program. Is there anything like that for WP7?
There There have been some rumors that WP7 SHALL have more languages supported within Mango update, you should look upon it.
And Finally, its WP7 (Windows Phone 7) not MP7 (Mobile Phone 7 ???)
Many Thanks again to all you helpful people!
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I flashed my phone after doing the task29. its a little better, but still jerky and slow sometimes. Ive worked out that when its plugged into my computer, zune is installing apps and what not, so the phone is slow to respond. Also zune uses a huge amount of internet bandwidth. Im living in China, so i only have 2mb (when connecting to things outside China its even slower) and i cant surf in the internet when zune is downloading and installing things on my phone!
You said after the 14 days, i cant download free music. is that the same for free apps?
Im using a ROM at the moment which supports reading of Chinese and i downloaded the "im Chinese" apps which supports writing. its working fine, but just wish i had a chinese keyboard like in WM6.5.5!
Thanks for all your help, im loving MP7 and after 4 days of trying this and that, im very happy with it!
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I flashed my phone after doing the task29. its a little better, but still jerky and slow sometimes. Ive worked out that when its plugged into my computer, zune is installing apps and what not, so the phone is slow to respond. Also zune uses a huge amount of internet bandwidth. Im living in China, so i only have 2mb (when connecting to things outside China its even slower) and i cant surf in the internet when zune is downloading and installing things on my phone!
You said after the 14 days, i cant download free music. is that the same for free apps?
Im using a ROM at the moment which supports reading of Chinese and i downloaded the "im Chinese" apps which supports writing. its working fine, but just wish i had a chinese keyboard like in WM6.5.5!
Thanks for all your help, im loving MP7 and after 4 days of trying this and that, im very happy with it!
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You'll still be able to download and install free apps. Zune Pass has nothing to do with free music nor free apps. Even after 14 days, if free music is offered, then you can still download them.
As for a ROM with Chinese..try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1080950
YukiXDA has a version with Chinese keyboard in it and I think he just uploaded a new version with Asian language support. Read his first post outlining all the details. This version has Mango beta in it.
As for your lag issues while using your phone, it's more than likely your SD card. I've found using a class 4 card produces periodic lags while I have not experienced any lags with a class 6 card. I know this because I have 2 HD2's..one with a class 4 and one with a class 6 with identical setups except for the SD card.
My only suggestion with the lag issue is to use at least a class 6 SD card with WP7. Class 6 has faster I/O speeds than a class 4. Hope it all works out.
Thanks for the info. The YUKI ROM was one of the first ROMs i tried as it said it supported chinese. He split his ROM into two different ones, so i downloaded the chinese one and found it didnt support chinese. tried the other one and same thing. My wife and I are using an English base ROM that supports chinese that she found somewhere. it seems stable and usable, just dont like the stock icons after using XBmods rom for a while!
How do i find out what class my SD card is? im guessing that is the problem as i got the card for free when i bought the phone
Dear friends,
Please let me know the cons and pros of Android on Blackstone (Touch HD).
- Camera
- Game
- Appz
- Smoothness
- Speed
- Bluetooth
- Wifi
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it depends on build but you should try out the new FRX07 it has most (if not all) of the things working very well,i personally am using GBX0A which is alpha version but the way i compiled it somehow gave it enormous stability and reliability....you should try for yourself and see if it fits you...
One other larger setback with Android would be battery standby. It's quite poor, I think, at the moment. Efforts are being made for increasing standby but I don't think our Blac is targeted for that.
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it depends on build but you should try out the new FRX07 it has most (if not all) of the things working very well,i personally am using GBX0A which is alpha version but the way i compiled it somehow gave it enormous stability and reliability....you should try for yourself and see if it fits you...
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Can you describe what you mean by "the way I compiled it"?
There is much newer code in the GB tree than what is in the release for GBX0A, so if you built the system image yourself, that might explain it .
- Camera - Works on Blackstone. Current Kernels have support for camera.
- Game - We have okay resolution so games with WVGA are not problems for us but problem is that resolution is quite high for Adreno 130.. So quite lacking of performance
- Appz - They are very good.
- Smoothness - With Jit + My kernel its working good (Neocore 29.8 Due to 30 FPS cap.. but you cant except that every app will work smoothly..
- Speed Its okay even from Sd card.. But i told you my reason..
- Bluetooth Pairing/sending is working. But A2DP is not working
- Wifi Seems to work fine.. Sometimes lower speed but its okay..
arrrghhh said:
Can you describe what you mean by "the way I compiled it"?
There is much newer code in the GB tree than what is in the release for GBX0A, so if you built the system image yourself, that might explain it .
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it's the particular kernel and rootfs i used...i really have a daytime long battery and rock solid build...just don't remember which ones...maybe i could provide the img so you can check it
farukb said:
it's the particular kernel and rootfs i used...i really have a daytime long battery and rock solid build...just don't remember which ones...maybe i could provide the img so you can check it
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Well the kernel is easy to figure out - in Android, Settings -> About -> kernel version. If in WinMo, just look at the name of the modules file...
rootfs is a little harder. Date/timestamp can help, assuming you extracted it directly to your card. Otherwise... I guess md5, but you really think there's a particular kernel&rootfs that are just completely bulletproof? Sounds like snake oil to me .
For me the biggest problems for daily use are:
- Bluetooth: Calls and A2DP are not working. I have long hours on the car...
- Call speaker: it's not working.
- Music stuttering: improved on the FRX07, but not solved (there is a patch on an old kernel but it has not been updated).
- Random freezes and SODs.
I also miss some WM6.5 apps and some Manila 2.5 features
The pros list is long, so better to run from SD and have the best of both worlds. it is a pitty that we can't run both at the same time...
It's a pity that we can run both at the same time...?
I'm all for NAND, but until Android is stable, I think it's great that we can run both at the same time. That way if there's something you just have to have that WinMo provides, you can just boot back to it...
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Well the kernel is easy to figure out - in Android, Settings -> About -> kernel version. If in WinMo, just look at the name of the modules file...
rootfs is a little harder. Date/timestamp can help, assuming you extracted it directly to your card. Otherwise... I guess md5, but you really think there's a particular kernel&rootfs that are just completely bulletproof? Sounds like snake oil to me .
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i know how to check the current kernel but the thing is that old one did something when i first ran haret with it...although i'm not sure if rootfs leaves any trace of previous commits,so it may have nothing to do with rootfs
Thank you dear friends.
I will try FRX07.
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mrbennett said:
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Uh... what? I only see childish comments from you my friend.
Don't tell people to go to another site, that's childish. If you have a problem with me, then ignore me.
Some apps but not many.
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I have a question. I installes FRX07 on my blackstone and everything seems to work oké, but the sound. I don't seem to be able to get any sound out of the device, no ringtone (with incoming calls), no sounds with music, no sounds with video etc. Does anyone have any idea?
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Oasis2000
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I have a question. I installes FRX07 on my blackstone and everything seems to work oké, but the sound. I don't seem to be able to get any sound out of the device, no ringtone (with incoming calls), no sounds with music, no sounds with video etc. Does anyone have any idea?
Regards,
Oasis2000
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Hrm, I have heard of this issue before. Unfortunately I don't remember a specific resolution.
I would try to reboot, see if that changes anything. Also, check the volume - make sure it's turned up (there's several different volume controls, check Settings -> Sound).
Assuming those simple things don't solve it, you might want to try the 'grabbing at straws' method. First, I would simply delete the data.img and let it create a new one on boot. Let the phone sit after you see the lock screen for a few minutes. Then try to use it, try to preview a ringtone. Still failing? Format the SD card with the HP Tool (full format, FAT32) and I would start over completely with the directions in FRX07.1 thread.
If it's still failing, try another SD card. Rinse & repeat. Still failing!?!? Well, I'll probably have to send some logs to the developers, because I don't know what else could be done to triage. Something else must be awry. Pull system and kernel logs with the app GetLogs - in AndroidApps\Other.
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Hey man,
You won't really miss much (if anything) switching to android.
- Camera = ok but better in winmo
- Game = some work perfectly, some are laggy and others plain old just won't work
- Appz = ditto above
- Smoothness = depends on how much you want to fidddle with different configurations
- Speed = ditto above but also varys from build to build
- Bluetooth = haven't tested..
- Wifi = works well
Running Android off the sdcard isn't really isnt all that bad apart from the fact that sometimes though it can be a bit fiddly getting everything to work together for a smooth experience builds, kernels, gapps, resizing partititions.... ect but once thats all over i think it beats winmo
and plus if your a fiddly guy (i dont know why you would be here if you wernt ) then you will enjoy working it all out