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Polaris ppl: Please Vote>>>MODERATOR! Please lock "HTC Polaris tweaks and tips.."

Polaris ppl: Please Vote>>>MODERATOR! Please lock "HTC Polaris tweaks and tips.."
Seriously, guys, the "HTC Polaris tweaks and tricks" is completely out of control and ruining our Polaris forum. Issues that should be posted in general, or that deserve a new thread are all being posted in the tweaks and tricks thread. It has over 890 replies as of date! Its impossible to read, and a lot of good information and good answers to questions are getting lost in it.
Please, please, can a moderator lock just extract the original tweaks and tricks and lock the thread.
I've even included a poll so that we Polaris ppl can vote on the issue.

completely agree, i follow this forum almost everyday, but I never look there, it's too big a mess for me!!
good idea!

My god please do this!

all the usefull post (of the ts) should be putted in a new locked topic so you get 3 or 4 post with only usefull information!

sonus said:
Seriously, guys, the "HTC Polaris tweaks and tricks" is completely out of control and ruining our Polaris forum. Issues that should be posted in general, or that deserve a new thread are all being posted in the tweaks and tricks thread. It has over 890 replies as of date! Its impossible to read, and a lot of good information and good answers to questions are getting lost in it.
Please, please, can a moderator lock just extract the original tweaks and tricks and lock the thread.
I've even included a poll so that we Polaris ppl can vote on the issue.
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The thread is a mess, it served it's purpose but has now become too cumbersome: remove the sticky and let this thread drift off into history.
As said above, we need a new page with the final list of Tweaks and Tricks, to be locked and linked to from the Wiki page.
The Polaris part of this site is completely amateur compared to some of the other areas I been on before - it's like it's still being treated like a beta product rather than the full production product it is now. Lots of people are running around developing different versions of the same things with very minor differences and no one wants to collect and document things in any standardized or useful manner. Unless you read every post in every thread you risk missing some valuable setting and having a system which can't do everything you need.
It would be a dream to have a wiki page with links to official roms, cooked roms, radio roms, utilities, tweaks and issues; with every thread linked from the wiki being no longer than one page in length. Strict enforcement and removal of off-topic posts would help.
It's great that everyone is working on developing continuously improved versions on a theme but if nobody builds-up the knowledge base around it then most of these efforts won’t get to the people who need them.

agree with you guys .. at 1st I found it useful because I knew where to look (at what pages) if I wanted to find anything .. now If I wand to find some new tips I have 2 read the thread for 2 days to see there are no new news.
If you could do something to improve the meaning of that thread if would be GREAT. If not, close it and remove it from "sticky" threads list.
cheers

IMO the thread is still useful, I vote for "let it open"
Why don't U just use the board function "Search this thread" to find your
solution?

I have to agree to Lock the thread - even though im relatively new to the forums i have been coming here for a very long time.
Additionally its not just that thread but a couple of the others too. TAKE BEPE'S Rom thread / and Udk - You have to go into them to see if any updates have been carried out - Bepe's says 0.65 , however 0.67 is available. New rom should = new thread!
In general it needs a clean up.

Thread is very usefull, but has become monster. It contains many usefull tips & tricks (as intended) and a lot of questions which are obscuring answers. I'm aware that without questions there would be no answers...
As I altready suggested there, it needs cleaning up... and there's no way you can search "iGO", for instance...

well guys..!
Who can make new thread ?
If some one here can make new thread beter than old one.I will lock it
Cheers..!

It voted for close it. I think a Tips and Tricks thread should not contain questions. Only the answers to questions, asked in other threads, should be put in the Tips 'n Tricks thread, as a kind of summary. Else it should be called the Ask-Everything-You-Want-And-Write-Anything-You-Like-In-This-Thread-So-It-Becomes-Unfindable-thread.

why do we even need another thread? can't this one just be closed and we use the forums as normal, creating a thread for an individual subject as and when we need to - I don't see the point in closing it just to start another one...
Someone could create a wiki out of the old thread and leave it at that, or just leave it there for peeps to look at/refer to when needs be.

Wiki
Tinnitus said:
Could someone could create a wiki out of the old thread and leave it at that.
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I think that is an excellant idea

Support Section (Mods look here please!)

Okay, before everyone starts flaming...I know that there are probably hundreds of thread in the Dream General section suggesting a support section or a "Support thread" but they have been incredibly unsuccessful and members are constantly reporting and starting new threads on their problems in Dream Android Development and in General. Isn't the whole point of GENERAL suppose to be GENERAL? And not a support area?
This is why I'm proposing that we create an entire new area for people to get help and for people to post their problems and give solutions. If you take a look at the amount of locked threads in development and the amount of threads in Dream General pertaining to the numerous amount of problems that people are having, you will understand. I understand that there is in fact a brick thread inside Dream Development, but people don't care. They just post it in random places and mods have to constantly remind people to post in the right place and to SEARCH! With this proposal, I believe that if a support section is created, people will be more likely to search in THERE because it's a special place set aside for just that, SUPPORT.
Mods please take this into consideration and don't lock this thread. How many of you think that we should have a support section and not clutter Dream General and Dream Development with hundreds of two post threads talking about bricks and eventually them getting locked or moved to the trash within seconds.
Thanks for reading this. Comment in the posts below
Thanks to Milestone for a list of good reasons why we should have a support section! thanks milestone!
milestone.it said:
i feel that a support section would be useful for many simple reasons
1) it would aid in the moderation task - most people can read the word "support" and realize to post in there. if they can't then don't get a g1!
2) it would allow for a few people who are interested in helping out other newbie users to correct their problems without everyone having to read them if they don't want to.
3) there can be a place to move wrongly posted requests to.
4) everyone knows where to post them to in the first place!
that was my £0.02p
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Everyone here with a few exceptions i'm sure are using a rooted phone. If you noticed, each thread that contains a ROM will also provide support for that ROM. Most of the problems are specific to each rom. So there would need to be a support thread for each ROM released in a seperate forum section, which already exists in the developer section. Also, each rom released is pretty much a beta and will always remain a beta because there is no standards to which these roms are created and no "end point" to the development, its always on going. And unique bugs and problems will always occure with each Rom. So it is a continual part of development to post, read about and repair those bugs and problems to make each Rom better. I don't think a support section needs to be created. I just think people need to be less lazy and use the search tools. Even bricked phones are being bricked by a specific rom...or SPL or what have u and again should fall under development since most bricked phones was because of a bad SPL or bug in a ROM . And if it is not specific to anything that has been created or released here...Tmobile DOES have their own support forums =)

Good point, but we're not T-Mobile and T-Mobile doesn't JUST carry the G1 now do they?

alritewhadeva said:
Good point, but we're not T-Mobile and T-Mobile doesn't JUST carry the G1 now do they?
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You've a good point as well =). ...Yah, T-mobile mentioned something about them carrying the ION soon....so I guess "T-Mobile" can be replaced with "Your phone's manufacturer and/or carrier" hehehe
Did XDA not create forums for the Magic and the Ion and the Sapphire? Most of this development is geared towards the G1 for the most part...which pretty much is T-Mobile....Now if they just made a Forum for "ANDROID DEVELOPMENT" that encomposses all the android phones...that may work out better. But the support would still end up in the specific rom forums... I dunno...to many roms and too many phones and too many carriers lol getting had to keep up

alritewhadeva said:
Good point, but we're not T-Mobile and T-Mobile doesn't JUST carry the G1 now do they?
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No, and T-Mobile won't be able to support the myriad of problems that come with rooted phones and custom ROMs anyway.
The sad fact (and why this idea has never really taken off) is that no matter what you do; stickies/wikis/locked threads/temp bans etc... there is always going to be a host of fng's that don't know any better and will continue to post out of context and out of laziness.
Hell, there's a couple people that straight up know better and will still post in the wrong section because "nobody's gonna be able to help me in the Dream forum, so I'm posting here anyway."
It would seem you can't change human nature, so you're forced to moderate. Or so I've decided.

i feel that a support section would be useful for many simple reasons
1) it would aid in the moderation task - most people can read the word "support" and realise to post in there. if they can't then don't get a g1!
2) it would allow for a few people who are interested in helping out other newbie users to correct their problems without everyone having to read them if they don't want to.
3) there can be a place to move wrongly posted requests to.
4) everyone knows where to post them to in the first place!
that was my £0.02p

tep065 said:
You've a good point as well =). ...Yah, T-mobile mentioned something about them carrying the ION soon....so I guess "T-Mobile" can be replaced with "Your phone's manufacturer and/or carrier" hehehe
Did XDA not create forums for the Magic and the Ion and the Sapphire? Most of this development is geared towards the G1 for the most part...which pretty much is T-Mobile....Now if they just made a Forum for "ANDROID DEVELOPMENT" that encomposses all the android phones...that may work out better. But the support would still end up in the specific rom forums... I dunno...to many roms and too many phones and too many carriers lol getting had to keep up
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Yeah there's a forum for the Magic/Sapphire but the ION has not really been officially launched, but when it does I'm sure XDA will create another forum for it. I still think a support section would be a good idea. Most other forums have something like that, however this one does not. Just my opinion
milestone.it said:
i feel that a support section would be useful for many simple reasons
1) it would aid in the moderation task - most people can read the word "support" and realise to post in there. if they can't then don't get a g1!
2) it would allow for a few people who are interested in helping out other newbie users to correct their problems without everyone having to read them if they don't want to.
3) there can be a place to move wrongly posted requests to.
4) everyone knows where to post them to in the first place!
that was my £0.02p
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Good list. Updated OP

So, I've been thinking about this a bit more... and drinking bombay/tonic and shots of patron, so take it with a grain of salt...hehe
Anyway, I actually think it could be useful at this point. Seeing all the troubleshooting threads in this forum, it could be useful to seperate truly general things with support related things.
The way I see it, at this moment:
Dream (26 Viewing)
Dream android development (237 Viewing)
Dream accessories (2 Viewing)
Dream themes and wallpapers (25 Viewing)
Dream applications and games (23 Viewing)
Obviously, development gets all the attention.
That's the main reason so many people go straight there to get a question answered.
However; a support thread probably wouldn't see any less visitors than the other 4 threads and certainly more than the accessories thread. I dare say, accessories could be merged with general and be replaced with support.
It wouldn't hurt to have a handful of stickies of current support issues and an entire thread dedicated to it. Maybe having a thread that floated to the top in development called support that tried to redirect people to a support forum might work well.
Anyway, just a thought. Back to the tequila...
milestone.it said:
i feel that a support section would be useful for many simple reasons
1) it would aid in the moderation task - most people can read the word "support" and realise to post in there. if they can't then don't get a g1!
2) it would allow for a few people who are interested in helping out other newbie users to correct their problems without everyone having to read them if they don't want to.
3) there can be a place to move wrongly posted requests to.
4) everyone knows where to post them to in the first place!
that was my £0.02p
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Agreed =] I'm thankful for everyone commenting in this thread and keeping it alive. Come on guys, don't PRETEND you DON'T want a suppport section. Aren't all of you tired of the cluttered threads and the people telling you to sift through 300 page threads for answers? With this support section, finding an answer should be a breeze. I'm proposing we have sepeerate threads in the section for different ROMs and to post known problems and known solutions in the OPs. Let your opinions be heard! Going to go ahead and bump this up there. Come on! Comment! and vote in the poll

Apps

Hello everyone ive just purchased an HTC-HD2 phone and so far i love it
I also have a iphone and i like the look of the htc better.
I know this phone is a little different but can my htc be pimped up lol ie themes.....
my Software on my phone is:
OS 5.2.21864
Manila: 2.5.19....
ROM:1.43.110.2
Radio: 2.04.50.22_2
protocal:15.26.50.07u
Hope this helps guys would be very greatfull for help and maybe some links
Thankyou & keep up the good work
Mod Edit - Warez or warez requests are not allowed on XDA

This forum is strictly anti warez, you must avoid that subject here.
For free tweaks and mods, you may check the "themes and apps" section, the very first sticky is a great start, but there are many more.

not a great way to introduce yourself to the forum.
the answer is yes it can, but not with help from anyone on here.
most of the apps aren't expensive, and lot of the themes etc are built by people here in their spare time and shared for free (although it's nice to donate every now and then)

Ok sorry about that guys just trying to choose between this and my iphone
i do apologise for this so i cant mention this type of thing on the entire forum ?

mastermark2010 said:
Ok sorry about that guys just trying to choose between this and my iphone
i do apologise for this so i cant mention this type of thing on the entire forum ?
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you can mention it, although continued speak of warez is likely to get you a ban.
There are various sites on the net where you can get such apps. However, since this is a developers site and a community who likes to support the developers (remember that without developers, you wouldn't have anything for your phone at all...inclusing cracked apps) we would prefer that you didn't talk about it too much.

Well dont wanna get banned just wanna learn the ins & outs thanks anyway

I can't comment on the warez thing that is unknown territory to me...
But I can reccommend you upgrade your ROM 1.66 - the official release from HTC.
It is the first thing I did when I got mine home...I cannot tell you all the things it updates but I know that I have yet to experience any of the problems people have mentioned in many of the forums that I follow.
And most of all read the hints and tips part of the HD2 forum - it has paid dividens.
And above all stay in touch with this forum - and ask questions...I have yet to not get an answer that helps...
Scott

[Q] Can newbies have directly support from other xda-users?

I am a newbie to Android operating system. As many other newbies, I got a lot troubles and puzzles when using my android phone, recreating themes or modifying ROM, etc... Then I have to post a new thread on forum and waiting for an advice. Sometimes it takes a lot of time just for a easy bug fix.
Therefore, I wonder if some experienced android users can leave their gmail address so that newbies like me can add as buddies in g-talk in order to asking for advices in some cases.
Thanks.

Best advice I can give you is to start here reading the Noob bible, read read read, then once you are more familiar with the phone, I would join one of the developers personal website forums. The people in there can and will give you advice, you can look into EDT forum, TW etc. All these groups have a varying level of skilled people in each of their respective website forums. But, before launching over to one, you need to have some education, and understanding so you can ask useful questions.
Good luck............. android is a great platform

oka1 said:
Best advice I can give you is to start here reading the Noob bible, read read read
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99% of the time, all the "easy bug fixes" that you're referring to have already been addressed and resolved. I have been at this a while and have yet to start a new thread because my questions have either already been asked/answered, or I just figure it out myself. Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with people asking legit questions, but members starting new threads about common questions is a little irritating and shows a lack of effort in my opinion.

My bad - accidental repost.

Yeap I see, thanks a lot. ^^

if you need help feel free to pm me, no offense but i dont like leaving my email address around especially with everything i use it for. I generally check my XDA pms atleast once a day, keep in mind that i don't have time to walk you through everything step by step which is where the noob guide comes in. However i will always be willing to point you towards resources that will either instruct you on what to do unless its an incredibly difficult topic in which case ill do my best to asist.
Cheers

make a thread, pm me, ask for my number w/e I'll help you out..
I'm one of the most active users in the vibrant section

HD2 NAND and new keyboard

If you ended up to this thread by just clicking on it, because you thought, it has got something to do with HTC HD2 NAND or New Keyboard, I am really sorry and I do apologize to you.
The only reason I have created this thread is because the way one of the HD2 forum moderators have just deleted a thread I created out of the blue! I could not find who, how and when deleted my thread but it's gone!
I don't just find it unjust but I also found it ridiculously childish behaviour! I nudge or a PM would have made better sense before deleting!
The OLD Thread that is now deleted din't do any flaming or spamming either! All I had asked was If any HTC HD2 developer would be willing to help us lot in TG01 forum in developing Android kernel, the way they helped out here. I din't post it in ROM thread or any other forum. I posted that thread in 'general Q&A' as that was where it fitted the best.
DEAR MODERATOR BEFORE YOU DELETE THIS THREAD AS WELL:
If you read any of this (unlike earlier thread) please CONTACT ME first! Deleting thread only because it's title said TG01 doesn't mean I am stupid enough to write TG01 query in HD2 forum! I have created this thread with HD2 and NAND in title - so that themoderator who can't even be bothered to read into the content will NOT delete this as the title relates to HD2!
To all the users who come to this thread:
I ONLY APPEAL to please be at my place and see this situation! I am not intending to flame, spam or anything! I wanted to ask for help from all HD2 developers so that our android development in TG01 forum which has paused right now due to lack of help and guidance can go forward. After all I thought XDA was all about helping each other out!
I again apologize to all users! I am not writing this thread to cause you any inconvenience. The old thread, had correct title and correct format of posting into XDA forums. I had followed all rules. Only because I asked for help for TG01 forum and not for HD2, it was deleted! Where else can I ask for help from ALL developers at HD2? Can't be sending PMs to hundreds of you lot - that would be spamming!!

Hey
Have you tried sending out just a few pm's to hd2 chefs, maybe someone will point you in the right direction,
also have you also tried the irc channels since your query is a dev related

kam333 said:
Hey
Have you tried sending out just a few pm's to hd2 chefs, maybe someone will point you in the right direction,
also have you also tried the irc channels since your query is a dev related
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Thanks a lot for the response!
Since I wasn't sure who the hd2 chefs are - I couldn't PM them. If you please guide me towards profiles of chefs involved in android port to HD2, I will PM them and see if they are interested in helping us out.
Also, am new to IRC. How do I go about that as well?
Once again, thanks for the answer, and I hope the mods don't delete this thread again before I get some help

drupad2drupad said:
Thanks a lot for the response!
Since I wasn't sure who the hd2 chefs are - I couldn't PM them. If you please guide me towards profiles of chefs involved in android port to HD2, I will PM them and see if they are interested in helping us out.
Also, am new to IRC. How do I go about that as well?
Once again, thanks for the answer, and I hope the mods don't delete this thread again before I get some help
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Hey
Some of the main devs behind the actual HD2 Android port were Cotulla, dcordes, NetRipper, LeTama, Markinus, just to name a few, though i doubt you will get much response (with maybe 1 exception)
As for HD2 chefs, its a bit worrying to hear you say you're not sure who they are, they're fairly easy to find...
head over to the HD2 Android NAND Development sub forum & look at the author of the threads, if he/ she states its their build/rom, there is your HD2 Chef
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040273
its not for me to suggest any names, just take a random pick, most seem friendly enough someone might able to give you some pointers.
have to say tho, really cant understand why you dont sell up & just buy a dedicated android or if you want something to tinker with, why not a HD2 (it is starting to show its age tho).
Anyways, Goodluck

kam333 said:
Hey
Some of the main devs behind the actual HD2 Android port were Cotulla, dcordes, NetRipper, LeTama, Markinus, just to name a few, though i doubt you will get much response (with maybe 1 exception)
As for HD2 chefs, its a bit worrying to hear you say you're not sure who they are, they're fairly easy to find...
head over to the HD2 Android NAND Development sub forum & look at the author of the threads, if he/ she states its their build/rom, there is your HD2 Chef
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040273
its not for me to suggest any names, just take a random pick, most seem friendly enough someone might able to give you some pointers.
have to say tho, really cant understand why you dont sell up & just buy a dedicated android or if you want something to tinker with, why not a HD2 (it is starting to show its age tho).
Anyways, Goodluck
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Thank you very much for this answer! It helps a lot!
I am not a chef for HD2 forum roms. I mainly interact in TG01 forums. Hardly pop-in to these forums. Hence had no idea who is very active developer out here. But now the tast seems easier to contact them.
The reason I din't want to sell up (and mostly others out there too) is the contracts. We are tied up in 18-24 months contracts and as much as we hate the bloated OS that our respective carriers have put on this nice piece of hardware, we do want to explore the development on this device to it's max. Hence we were trying to see if someone could help us take the stalled development further on Android.
Most likely TG01 owner might move to android or WP7 in next 6-8 months and then the community might be dead, but android development on this device will bring a new life to enthusiasm

drupad2drupad said:
Thank you very much for this answer! It helps a lot!
I am not a chef for HD2 forum roms. I mainly interact in TG01 forums. Hardly pop-in to these forums. Hence had no idea who is very active developer out here. But now the tast seems easier to contact them.
The reason I din't want to sell up (and mostly others out there too) is the contracts. We are tied up in 18-24 months contracts and as much as we hate the bloated OS that our respective carriers have put on this nice piece of hardware, we do want to explore the development on this device to it's max. Hence we were trying to see if someone could help us take the stalled development further on Android.
Most likely TG01 owner might move to android or WP7 in next 6-8 months and then the community might be dead, but android development on this device will bring a new life to enthusiasm
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+ 10 my friend