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I've had my Hero since October. I've been reading these forums ever since I bought it. I keep reading about people switching from one rom to another, discussing battery life changes. Some people are stating they only have to charge their battery every two days, or get 16+ hours of heavy use on a charge. I'm on my 3rd rom, having tried Modaco, Fresh 1.0, and Fresh 1.1. I am now runnning Fresh 1.1 + Gumbo + SetCPU.
I work for Sprint. Advanced Tech Support. I work 13 hour days. I get to work, I turn off the mobile internet connection on my phone. I disable background data. In my SetCPU, I set it to powersave mode Min 245 Max 485. (Those might not be the exact numbers, at work can't check, but you get the idea.) After 13 1/2 hours, I go out and my battery is giving me the >15% remaining warning. I've maybe missed two calls and recieved 8 txts. On my off days, I wake up, take the phone off charge, and do a moderate amount of txting. I play a little music while im playing Xbox, maybe open the browser to check a game FAQ or walkthrough. Within about 3 hours of waking up I'm below 50%. If I'm planning on going to the bar to shoot pool I have to make sure my battery is fully charged, or if anyone is trying to get in touch with my I won't know cause I'm at the bar for 5+ hours txting and talking, and my phone will have died if not 100% charged. So...
I read that running Fresh 1.1+ Gumbo + SetCPU would greatly increase my battery life. Tried it. haven't noticed a change. I don't use task killers, I don't run apps, I think I've downloaded 9 apps from the market in 5 months. I use Shortcovers (Ebook reader). Dolphin browser, Handcent sms. Thats about it.
Is there a viable solution here? Does anyone have any troubleshooting steps to recommend, apps that might help, do a complete wipe and re-install Fresh and Gumbo? Change settings in CPU? I've been reading about Mugen and other batteries, any recommendations on which one would be best to try out? I love my phone, and I don't do anything to it without reading up on these forums first, just looking for any advice to not have to stay tethered to an AC outlet all day. Thanks.
fresh 1.1 + the less aggressive gumbo kernel will help alot. you don't need setcpu at all. i also recommend looking into a bigger extended battery, one that doesn't require the use of another back cover.
sirstanley said:
I've had my Hero since October.
I work for Sprint. Advanced Tech Support. I work 13 hour days. I get to work, I turn off the mobile internet connection on my phone. I disable background data. In my SetCPU,
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It really sounds like you have a background task that is running and not letting your phone sleep. I turn off mobile internet at night (so I don't get bugged with Tweets and other alerts) and my battery drops 3-4% overnight (7-8 hours while sleeping). What is your awake time?
On a full charge, I can go all day (7am - 10pm) and still have more than 30% left. I have 2 email accounts, each set to sync every 30 minutes, a twitter app set to sync every 15 minutes, and I don't use weather or location services. I think a lot of people experience poor battery life due to signal quality. I get really good signals at home and a fairly decent signal at work as long as I say out of the lower (basement) floors.
-Daryel
Here's my experience with my HTC Hero from H3G (Three) UK:
Had the phone for about 2 weeks now, battery lasts me easily 1 day with quite heavy use (30-60 min GPS, 2-3 hours browsing, installing programs, 30 min music, some texting and talking. I know that for some of you guys out there this might be 'light' usage, but I believe for all of this, battery life is quite good, better than my friends' Iphones. With moderate use i get through 2 days of usage. I am just experimenting with turning off Mobile Internet, have had the phone running for 60 hrs + and my battery is at 65%, I've been turning wifi on for a few minutes a couple of times and have been talking and moderate texting during this time. I intend to leave Mobile internet off until the battery runs out of power to see how much time I get out of it. I never turn the phone off at night. I am amazed what a big difference turning off Mobile Internet does.
The OP clearly states that he downloads / runs minimal apps, and asking a Sprint advanced tech if his phone is sleeping, while a nice gesture, isn't terribly practical. I hope.
I think that there are certain phones that don't scale with GCK or a change in the CPU governor very well. I have bounced around to every ROM available, flashed and reflashed, cleared boot and dalvik caches and played with about every governor / frequency setting imaginable. With all that, all I can conclude is that my personal phone does significantly worse when the governor isn't MSM7K and drains downright terrible under GCK's stripped governors on anything other than MSM7K. Even Powersave (which OP referenced) drains my phone significantly faster than MSM7K.
I'd recommend you keep your current GCK install and adjust SetCPU to MSM7K to min 245 max 480. Then enable Profiles > Sleep > min 160 max 245. For a bit more performance when your phone is awake slide your normal max to 528; add significant performance by sliding normal min to 480. See if that helps any.
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The OP clearly states that he downloads / runs minimal apps, and asking a Sprint advanced tech if his phone is sleeping, while a nice gesture, isn't terribly practical. I hope.
I think that there are certain phones that don't scale with GCK or a change in the CPU governor very well. I have bounced around to every ROM available, flashed and reflashed, cleared boot and dalvik caches and played with about every governor / frequency setting imaginable. With all that, all I can conclude is that my personal phone does significantly worse when the governor isn't MSM7K and drains downright terrible under GCK's stripped governors on anything other than MSM7K. Even Powersave (which OP referenced) drains my phone significantly faster than MSM7K.
I'd recommend you keep your current GCK install and adjust SetCPU to MSM7K to min 245 max 480. Then enable Profiles > Sleep > min 160 max 245. For a bit more performance when your phone is awake slide your normal max to 528; add significant performance by sliding normal min to 480. See if that helps any.
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Could just be the different experiences folks receive with the Hero but when I used SetCPU to create profiles, I saw much higher battery drain. Once again, may have just been my experience but battery runs much better without profiles on my device.
Thanks for the response. And yes, my phone does sleep. I checked Spare Parts, and my most used app is Lightning Bug (use it when I sleep at night. I live in the hood and it covers up the radios and dogs barking.) After that it's Shortcovers (my ebook reader.) and then Handcent. So no abnormal program activity. Lightning bug only runs while I sleep, shortcovers just when Im reading. So nothing keeping my phone awake or anything. I do have one of the first Heros, I pre-ordered and recieved it like October 10th, so it's not Google branded, if that makes a difference. I'm considering just getting another one, but after 5 months of flashing and moifying and tweaking I'm kinda attactched to my phone. I'd feel like I was trading in my wife. So I guess I'll just go for an after market battery. Any more advice would be great. Thanks again.
kbizzle said:
Could just be the different experiences folks receive with the Hero but when I used SetCPU to create profiles, I saw much higher battery drain. Once again, may have just been my experience but battery runs much better without profiles on my device.
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Personally I'm on Modaco 2.2. Pulled mocaco.sh and changed the governor from "performance" to "msm7k" and pushed it back to the phone. No compcache, but I did include the internal task killer call in compcache.sh. Read thru either the Modaco 2.2 thread or GCK if you need help.
I'm having the same results as you. I have a non-"with google" Hero200, and my battery life absolutely sucks.
Today, took it off the charger at about 10:30, now at 3:30 it was down to 20% battery.
this was leaving mobile data on and a few text messages.
How exactly do you choose how often you want email to sync? I tried finding that in the settings menu of the Gmail app, but there's nothing there about that, just signatures and such.
I am running gumbo 1.5c bare, so it's quick (no sense UI) but battery is just as bad as with sense.
I'm not running setCPU or anything, just gbhil's kernel (i think?)
I'm about ready to spring for an 1800 mAh battery
dangit
Hate to say it, but I'm glad im nota lone on this one. Misery loves company.
I'm gettin tired of reading about people claiming they get 2 days of moderate use out a hero without charging, with a stock battery. "Oh, with this new rom I just tried, after 12 hours I was below 50%, this is unacceptable, I can normally go 2 days without charging." WTF? Did they just build a choice few heros with super batteries? Just wondering.
sirstanley said:
Hate to say it, but I'm glad im nota lone on this one. Misery loves company.
I'm gettin tired of reading about people claiming they get 2 days of moderate use out a hero without charging, with a stock battery. "Oh, with this new rom I just tried, after 12 hours I was below 50%, this is unacceptable, I can normally go 2 days without charging." WTF? Did they just build a choice few heros with super batteries? Just wondering.
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Lol, sorry man (I'm guessing you read my post at one point, 12 hours to 50%, it really did annoy me lol). I CAN get 2 days using Fresh 1.1, gumbo kernel, and SetCPU. Granted, I don't use my phone nearly as much as a lot of the people on here, but I also sit in areas with little to no service for most of my time, which can have a drastic effect on battery life.
rt1oo said:
I'm having the same results as you. I have a non-"with google" Hero200, and my battery life absolutely sucks.
Today, took it off the charger at about 10:30, now at 3:30 it was down to 20% battery.
this was leaving mobile data on and a few text messages.
How exactly do you choose how often you want email to sync? I tried finding that in the settings menu of the Gmail app, but there's nothing there about that, just signatures and such.
I am running gumbo 1.5c bare, so it's quick (no sense UI) but battery is just as bad as with sense.
I'm not running setCPU or anything, just gbhil's kernel (i think?)
I'm about ready to spring for an 1800 mAh battery
dangit
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OUCH. I unplugged mine at 9am, it's now nearly 4, and I'm only down to 80%. Had WiFi on all morning, and mobile on from noon on. Sent a dozen texts, and read a half dozen emails (syncs every 15 min). Mobile data SHOULD sleep when your phone goes to sleep, and I think it'll turn on when your accounts/email sync. Same thing with WiFi.
I'm amazed at the massive variation in battery life people have. I wonder if there were a few different manufacturers of batteries, and that's causing the problem.
But I cant even bring my phone into the building so it sits in my glovebox with all data services off and no apps running for 13 hours and its at ten percent when I get off work. I just don't get it. I think I'm gonna wipe, reflash Fresh 1.1, reflash Gumbo, and start over.
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But I cant even bring my phone into the building so it sits in my glovebox with all data services off and no apps running for 13 hours and its at ten percent when I get off work. I just don't get it. I think I'm gonna wipe, reflash Fresh 1.1, reflash Gumbo, and start over.
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Wow, it sounds more like something might be wrong with your battery.
I could turn everything off on mine, and leave it sit in an area with decent service, and probably get over 2 days out of it...so that just seems odd. Are you running SetCPU? That'll help. Set it at either 160 or 245 min, and 528 max. "On Demand" seems to be working the best for me. It'll basically drop your processor speed when the phone's asleep, and bring it back up when you need it.
daryelv said:
It really sounds like you have a background task that is running and not letting your phone sleep. I turn off mobile internet at night (so I don't get bugged with Tweets and other alerts) and my battery drops 3-4% overnight (7-8 hours while sleeping). What is your awake time?
On a full charge, I can go all day (7am - 10pm) and still have more than 30% left. I have 2 email accounts, each set to sync every 30 minutes, a twitter app set to sync every 15 minutes, and I don't use weather or location services. I think a lot of people experience poor battery life due to signal quality. I get really good signals at home and a fairly decent signal at work as long as I say out of the lower (basement) floors.
-Daryel
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+1 on this. While I understand you're a Sprint tech, it's still good to check the awake time, as it's a good indicator that something's awry. You said you run minimal apps, do you run any weather apps at all? Had some bad luck with those. Also, do you roam? I know setting it to Sprint Only helped me at home, and this is what you suggest to ppl everyday, so I'm not telling you anything, but some of the things we KNOW to be absolutely true can be wrong under our noses sometimes because we're so sure. Double check everything again.
I know it's painful to think of this as a viable solution, but there absolutely IS a way to determine if it's apps or not. I've had great luck with Fresh 1.1 AND Gumbo 1.5b. SetCPU and Gumbo Kernel made it even better.
Try this: Install either Gumbo or Fresh 1.1, the Gumbo Kernel, and setCPU (that one is optional for you I suppose, but I'd recommend it)
Don't install a single app or widget for the first day. Not a single one. Leave it for 24 hours, and see the battery life. (exceptions for apps that don't run in the background or connect for data or updates)
Then install them one by one until you find your culprit. This is how I found the weather widget was sucking the life out of my hero.
I too, have a non "with google" hero 200, and I have GREAT battery life, and even had great battery life on Fresh 1.1 when I had near 80 apps installed.
I'd bet money it's something in the background. I can speak a lot for Fresh 1.1 as I've used it the most. Great ROM, great battery life.
Btw, I also have two email accounts, one Exchange, one Gmail, BOTH set to "as items arrive" and I still can go from morning to bed on a charge with no probs.
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To echo Tatonka_hero, I also recommend doing the ondemand 528/245 as it worked really well for me. I got even better battery life when going that route than before, although I was never complaining about battery life in the first place.
my opinion.. it has to be something due to the signal strength.
I wonder if there is a way.. to check and monitor how often the phone looses tower contact? Then it has to try to find the next tower available, then has to bounce back to the closer one when it pops up? Is it constantly, jumping from one week signal to the next?
Which would keep the radio up and running... while the phone itself looks asleep.
Just me guessing.. with no Knowledge to base this off of.
I don't use any weather apps. A list of every app I have that didnt come with the phone:
Handcent
Shortcovers
Lightning Bug
Gensoid
GBCoid
Spare Parts
Terminal
ES File Explorer
SetCPU
I know you guys are really stuck on the idea that I'm running some intresting app, but I'm sorry to dissapoint. I wiped the phone, flashed Modaco, wiped, flashed Fresh 1.0, wiped, flashed Fresh 1.1, wiped, flashed gumbo. And then I re-downloaded the apps above. I work 7 days a week, I like to read Ebooks before I go to bed, I use lightning bug when I sleep, and if I'm riding with someone I play my emulators. Thats the story of my phone use. Also listen to music if I take a day off and im playing xbox. Theres nothing running in the background. I always have at lest 3-4 bars of signal strength. I turn off mobile network (data) when not using it. I keep my GPS off. I check Spare Parts, and everything in there is pretty much correct. My phones awake time is about 20%, if that. haven't checked in a couple days. So, tonight I'm gonna wipe, re-install Fresh 1.1, re-install Gumbo, and see if that helps at all. Is there any kind of consensus on the best settings for setCPU to save my battery?
sirstanley said:
I don't use any weather apps. A list of every app I have that didnt come with the phone:
Handcent
Shortcovers
Lightning Bug
Gensoid
GBCoid
Spare Parts
Terminal
ES File Explorer
SetCPU
I know you guys are really stuck on the idea that I'm running some intresting app, but I'm sorry to dissapoint. I wiped the phone, flashed Modaco, wiped, flashed Fresh 1.0, wiped, flashed Fresh 1.1, wiped, flashed gumbo. And then I re-downloaded the apps above. I work 7 days a week, I like to read Ebooks before I go to bed, I use lightning bug when I sleep, and if I'm riding with someone I play my emulators. Thats the story of my phone use. Also listen to music if I take a day off and im playing xbox. Theres nothing running in the background. I always have at lest 3-4 bars of signal strength. I turn off mobile network (data) when not using it. I keep my GPS off. I check Spare Parts, and everything in there is pretty much correct. My phones awake time is about 20%, if that. haven't checked in a couple days. So, tonight I'm gonna wipe, re-install Fresh 1.1, re-install Gumbo, and see if that helps at all. Is there any kind of consensus on the best settings for setCPU to save my battery?
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Thanks for the detailed reply...it helps us get a better picture of your habits.
That being said, use the ondemand 528/245 and you should be just fine. Make sure to set it to save those settings on reboot too, because setCPU used to (not sure if it still does) set itself to performance mode on reboot otherwise which would definitely drain your battery.
alright this is probably a stupid question but how do i check awake time with spare parts? is it under battery history? then is it partial wake usage option?
And is Locale.apk known to be a battery hog...I feel like it might be...ouch.
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alright this is probably a stupid question but how do i check awake time with spare parts? is it under battery history? then is it partial wake usage option?
And is Locale.apk known to be a battery hog...I feel like it might be...ouch.
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It's just under Settings > About Phone > Status then all the way down
EDIT: Problem fixed, factory reset and reinstalling helped, see my next post further down.
Now testing Juice defender to see if it really improves things considering I am already managing phone features on my own. See post on next page.
Just like title mentions:
Juice defender drains my battery and overheats the phone.
This is what I did:
I downloaded and installed juice defender from the market.
I took a look in the program, it asked asked something about autodetecting the phone. I let it perform the autodetection.
Once in the program i took a fast glance ofer the settings (didn't touch anything or change anything after autodetection)
I thought that I'd deal with it later and then I put the phone aside.
A few minutes later, the phone beeps. So I pick it up to see what it "beeps" about.
A warning message that the temperature have risen over 50 degree Celsius (122 Farenheit)
The phone was HOT!
Also I've found the battery have drained over 25% during these few minutes I left it alone since Juice defender got installed.
Suddenly the phone reboots without any whatsoever reason, just straight into the boot screen.
From here on it all starts over again:
Phone overheats (as it is already hot), warning message about temperature, battery keeps draining FAST.
I check the SetCPU application and see that the CPU constantly at it's full speed.
SetCPU are set on "On demand".
I took the conclusion something are working hard and are loading the cpu to it's full capacity.
I shut down the phone, pulls the battery, let it cooldown for 30 minutes.
Once the phone is cool again I replug the battery, boots up the phone.
Now back into standby mode, the phone slowly gets warmer, the battery are almost empty and keeps draining fast.
Soon the battery are out of juice and the phone shuts off. The phone got hot during those few minutes.
Now I put the charger in, boot the phone up and the first thing I do is uninstall juice defender, reboot the phone to make sure it's not left in memory.
Now the phone are back to it's normal behavior, SetCPU reports low speed, still set on "On demand".
It charges normally and the phone keeps cool, even after 20 minutes.
Conclusion: Once I install Juice defender and let it "autodetect" it start loading the CPU to 100% and drains the battery without any message or whatsoever.
Killing juice defender itself does not help, draining and overheating keeps happening.
Uninstall and reboot got rid of the problem.
As of now, I will NOT use juice defender at all. Won't even touch it.
Maybe I don't have to. The R2BA023 firmware is good enough as it is.
Any ideas what's wrong here?
Phone: Sony Ericsson X10i
Baseband: 1.1.27
Firmware: R2BA023 (Rooted)
Same config, no problem.
I've also got an X10i with a rooted R2BA023 (or whatever it's called). I use Juice Defender with none of your described problems. I only charge my phone every other or third day. Have you tried reinstalling? I'm thinking that it could have been something that went wrong during the installation.
i've got unrooted X10i R2BA024 with juicedefender installed, but those issues didnt occur
if this makes you feel any better
realunited123 said:
if this makes you feel any better
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Which app is this ?
mattiL said:
Which app is this ?
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Juice defender
realunited123 said:
if this makes you feel any better
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Did you turn everything off?
mine is rooted 023 with juicedefender, and I get x1.91
no heating issues though....
Bloke
as you can see no... i dont know what happened at that time it showed 4.99 lol after that with time it decreased to 1.7 might be a bug... thought it was good one to test shoot me so took a snap..
Martin5000 said:
I've also got an X10i with a rooted R2BA023 (or whatever it's called). I use Juice Defender with none of your described problems. I only charge my phone every other or third day. Have you tried reinstalling? I'm thinking that it could have been something that went wrong during the installation.
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You gave me an idea there, and helped me solve my problem.
Reinstalling Juice defender did not help. However, factory reset and reinstall did help.
Not sure what could have caused this, but something odd was in the way, and that "odd" whatever it was, went away with a factory reset.
Also a few other minor "jerks" vanished with the factory reset.
I would suggest anyone who have rooted the X10 according to the instructions found here at xda-developer, also perform a factory reset afterwards, if there are strange problems:
Jerky and/or laggy screen.
Applications suddenly closing without any messages.
Phone suddenly locks the SIM card in middle of anything, where you have to unlock it again with the pin code.
Phone completely freezes up for a minute or two, only to recover afterwards, as nothing happened.
Screen unlocking itself without anyone or anything touching it, or anything connected.
I also had to repeat Step3 according to the rooting instructions, where superuser.apk and some other nice applications gets installed after the factory reset.
Once this was done I resynced the phone to get my contacts back, then straight on to Juice defender.
Juice defender now works (I think).
What's left to do now is to play around with the settings and reinstall some other applications. I will also avoid using the last set of Titanium backups I have, due to the risk of the "problem" coming back.
Mayve the problem is caused by JD + SetCPU?
I use JuiceDefender and SetCPU together and they work fine for me. When the phone is idle, i.e. REALLY idle - no bluetooth, wifi off, APN off, no apps running other than SetCPU, JD and a few ignored ones - there are times when the battery drain is practically 0% over an hour. According to the JuicePlotter chart, anyway.
Next report:
So far, so good, Everything seems to be working, and no, the combination JD and SetCPU are not the cause of the problem.
I have both installed and both are playing nicely together, no fights in the sandbox so far. Maybe I don't need both?
I do however believe that Juice defender is a bit overrated (but not much).
I usually keep my wlan, bluetooth etc. turned off when I don't use em.
Juice-defender just makes this semi-automatic. So for me, who are already keeping my "bells and whistles" at a minimum, juice defender doesn't help that much.
The R2BA023 firmware/ROM/patch (or what it's called) does improve the power consumption ALOT by itself, and together with SetCPU and my manually handling of the phones features when I need em, maybe makes Juice Defender superfluous in my case.
I will now first let Juice Defender log my everyday usage without it being active (just logging).
After a few days from here on, I try with Juice defender "activated" and see if it improves anything in my case.
I'll be back...
I have Juice Defender Ultimate (purchased) and I have not had any problems with it ever since.
I'm currently testing it with my newly installed CM7-ZMOD CYANOGENMOD 7.
Hope I don't get anything bad from this. I don't even know if having Juice Defender is recommendd with mods as I am new to modding, rooting and flashing.
Thought the title would get your attention.
After upgrading to Froyo, I have many issues, two of which I'll cover here in hope that someone can resolve them.
First issue is battery life. Absolutely horrible after upgrading. Thought it would be the opposite. Can someone please provide some resolution to this issue? I've disabled a number of things said to resolve this problem but none have worked.
The second issue is the accelerometer after upgrading. Most screens end up in landscape view and switching back to portrait is difficult. I have tried to calibrate it but that didn't work. Don't like the huge delay or failed attempt to switch between both on this version. Calibration does not work.
Any help is appreciated...
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Thought the title would get your attention.
After upgrading to Froyo, I have many issues, two of which I'll cover here in hope that someone can resolve them.
First issue is battery life. Absolutely horrible after upgrading. Thought it would be the opposite. Can someone please provide some resolution to this issue? I've disabled a number of things said to resolve this problem but none have worked.
The second issue is the accelerometer after upgrading. Most screens end up in landscape view and switching back to portrait is difficult. I have tried to calibrate it but that didn't work. Don't like the huge delay or failed attempt to switch between both on this version. Calibration does not work.
Any help is appreciated...
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menu>settings> display> uncheck Auto-rotate screen
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Why would I want to uncheck that option? I want it to auto rotate but want it to happen quicker than it has after upgrading.
battery..
In addition, the battery is obviously not the problem here. This started after upgrading to Froyo.
Were you using a custom ROM with 2.1?
Are you using a custom ROM with 2.2?
As far as I know, the stock ROM with 2.1 didn't have great battery life either (thought I'm not sure, I rooted my phone the day I got it ). So if you're using a stock ROM with 2.2, you could have the same issue.
Also, if you are rooted, try using SetCPU. Even with the default kernel you can use it to underclock your phone when the screen's off and save a lot of battery.
pookieguy said:
Thought the title would get your attention.
After upgrading to Froyo, I have many issues, two of which I'll cover here in hope that someone can resolve them.
First issue is battery life. Absolutely horrible after upgrading. Thought it would be the opposite. Can someone please provide some resolution to this issue? I've disabled a number of things said to resolve this problem but none have worked.
The second issue is the accelerometer after upgrading. Most screens end up in landscape view and switching back to portrait is difficult. I have tried to calibrate it but that didn't work. Don't like the huge delay or failed attempt to switch between both on this version. Calibration does not work.
Any help is appreciated...
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You hate Froyo then please return your EVO to sprint
are you running a task killer? try removing it. Have you tried any of the MANY battery life tricks? Try flashing the update.zip, could have been a messy install. you also could be suffering from useritis.
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Thanks for the reply. No, phone has not been rooted. I simply waited for the 2.2 upgrade and can confirm both issues are a result of upgrading. You are right...the stock ROM did not have good battery life. However, after upgrading, it is much worse in comparison.
The g-sensor issue is also a huge problem. With that said, I'm looking for a fix to these two issues.
Thanks,
task killer..
tonyh703,
Yes, I'm running Advanced Task Killer which did not have a problem before. Is this an app that can cause this problem? I'll remove it if so...
You really need to do a little detective work to find out why your battery is not lasting. My battery is actually lasting noticeably longer on froyo. I was using Fresh 1.0.1 before with Netarchy's kernel and would just barely make it through the day of moderate use. Now that I have updated to Fresh 3.1.0.1, I am easily making it through the day with about the same use. Yesterday, I went 14 hours and still had 26% left when I plugged it in for the night. My usage was about 2 hours streaming last.fm, about a half hour of phone calls, about 1 1/2 hours of internet and twitter, about 45 minutes watching video's, and an hour and a half of reading with my kindle ap. To me that is pretty darn good. I have gps on, twitter syncing every half hour, and google sync on, most of my other stuff like email and such is set to manually sync. The only thing I did notice is that the first day after going to Froyo, my battery went down pretty quick, but after a day or two it settled down to the way it is now on it's own. Today I have had about the same use as yesterday so far, and have been off of the charger for 11 hours and have 76% remaining.
As to your other problem, can't say, mine is working fine.
If youve got an led flashlight type of app installed uninstall it they conflict with the HTC LED flashlight. That seems to be the most common problem with people upgrading to Froyo.
Agree on your second point. I wish there was a way to at least lock the screen to an orientation when need. The delay though is ridiculous.
I have also noticed that the delay to type sometimes is severely long causing me to retype the words a second time before they appear in the screen.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
FWIW - I found a little trick on a forum somewhere that allegedly came from HTC techs...
It goes like this - first, charge your phone as normal (phone on, 8 hours)
Then, after 8 hours and the phone reporting fully charged status, take the phone off the charger for about 3 minutes (just enough to slightly discharge it) and then turn it off (power down) and put it back on the charger for an hour or so.
Then, take it off the charger and turn it back on.
That's it! It sounds a bit ridiculous, but I think the cited reason was that whenever you install a new ROM, the "system" needs to understand when the battery is truly full and this trick helps to recalibrate and ensure that it is.
I really don't have any way (nor the desire) to verify the science behind this, but I did it myself after the horrible battery life I got with FroYo.
About a week out now and my battery is behaving completely normally, and possibly better than with 2.1, though only marginally if that...
Give it a shot - if it works, there you go, if not... Well it's not like you've lost anything.
Good luck, though YMMV.
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have any of yall had a long delay when putting in a name for the reciver in sms? I kid you not it takes almost 3 to 5 sec for it to pull up a name and phone number from my phone book.
Its sad that you need to do "tricks" to get decent battery life, because most people expect it out of the box. Yes you can apply a custom rom with a undervolted cpu, but that shouldnt be necessary. I personally love doing all that stuff, but the majority of people are completely ignorant to these methods and might return their phones because of battery life, but for you people on here...BAKEDSNACK 1.2.5 with the latest of his kernel..amazing battery life.
Get rid of that task killer!! Froyo does not need it... Not to mention none of the task killers support Froyo correctly. Uninstall it, try using Froyo without it.
I recommend getting rid of the task killer and go without system panel lite. It works with froyo without any problems. I also recommend letting your battery completely die out before charging it again.
My Evo worked without any issues after the update to froyo. Also, if you are a widget fanatic, I recommend limiting the amount yo u use . The reason being that everytime you unlock your phone and scroll from one page to through next, you are loading said widgets into memory which help to eating up the battery quicker.
Also if you have a lot of things updating in the background, that can kill your battery quicker. I'm always on my phone and get anywhere from ten to fourteen hours of use. I also use a cpu manager to extend the life of my battery when not in use.
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DO NOT DEPLETE YOUR BATTERY COMPLETELY!! These are Li-ion batteries. Depleting the battery too much can damage the cells. Discharging the batteries 100% before charging to avoid memory effect is a phenomena unique to Ni-Cad batteries. If a Li-ion is discharged too severely, it causes an irreversible reaction inside the cell that prevents the battery from holding any charge at all. This common in laptop batteries.
To the OPs issue, do you have the latest Facebook update (1.3.1)? Version 1.3.0 had an issue that was keeping the phone awake eating up battery life.
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sombdy said:
DO NOT DEPLETE YOUR BATTERY COMPLETELY!! These are Li-ion batteries. Depleting the battery too much can damage the cells. Discharging the batteries 100% before charging to avoid memory effect is a phenomena unique to Ni-Cad batteries. If a Li-ion is discharged too severely, it causes an irreversible reaction inside the cell that prevents the battery from holding any charge at all. This common in laptop batteries.
To the OPs issue, do you have the latest Facebook update (1.3.1)? Version 1.3.0 had an issue that was keeping the phone awake eating up battery life.
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I could see how this could be bad if you discharged it completely every single time, but every phone ive had including the iphone, it has been specificly stated many times to COMPLETELY DISCHARGE THE BATTERY ATLEAST ONCE A MONTH
Still no luck...
Guys,
I have removed the task killer and have removed the other LED Light utility. Still having battery issues. Any other suggestions please??
Also,
What about the accelerometer? Having many issues with it. First off, when a text msg comes in, it automatically shows in landscape. Phone switches to landscape fine but it is very difficult to switch back to portrait.
Any other help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
What a fantastic phone. I've really never had anything so quick and so useable.
But the battery life is a disaster. I'm hard-pressed to get a day's use out of the thing - menaing hours of daylight - and that often includes short charge times connected to a computer.
The phone is so good that I've been prepared to try workarounds. I've ordered a couple of spares batteries - genuine ones. I've ordered the 1300 Mugen to see if that improves things.
I've ordered exprernal battery backs from New Trent - through Amazon.
Frankly, I'm going to be looking for some kind of backpack to lug it all around!!
I take or make about a dozen short calls per day. I check my emails about a dozen times a day - delete a lot, forrward a lot and reply to some - so that is the kind of use I am giving.
I'd like at least to be able to get up in the morning and find that the phone hasn't completely discharged overnight.
What's the heads-up on this?
Hi,
Depending on how long you've had the phone, your battery should get better.
Have you tried Juice Defender? Its very good.
Whilst I am working I switch to 2G only, Data & Sync are off. And I turn them back on when I want to check them. This increases battery life duration.
No I haven't tried juice defender. I'll give it a go. Thanks
I've had the phone for just over a week and it has already gone through several charge cycles. I would have expected it to have reached peak performance by now.
One of my new HTC spares seems to perform even more poorly - alhtough it is still very new.
I haven't tried the other one yet.
Once you have broken through the "Honeymoon" period you will notice better battery performance.
I've had my DHD since launch & my usage is not dissimilar to yours, maybe a little music or radio too. I get atleast a full day.
If your battery is being drained unusually quick, try installing Current Widget and enable logging with running applications, that way you can see what is using your battery.
lejars1 said:
No I haven't tried juice defender. I'll give it a go. Thanks
I've had the phone for just over a week and it has already gone through several charge cycles. I would have expected it to have reached peak performance by now.
One of my new HTC spares seems to perform even more poorly - alhtough it is still very new.
I haven't tried the other one yet.
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A new battery needs some time to "reach peak performance" as you put it. In other words, it needs to calibrate or be calibrated, there are some tutorials on the subject in the DHD forums
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If your battery is being drained unusually quick, try installing Current Widget and enable logging with running applications, that way you can see what is using your battery.
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+1 to CurrentWidget, it's very handy. Also, you could try using Watchdog Lite to see if your CPU load is being used excessively and see what programs are running in the background. Have you checked things like Auto-Sync, USB Debugging? Who's your carrier too, have you got a lot of bloatware?
Ta.
My carrier is Orange.fr (worse luck).
I don't think that I have any bloatware. I'm using both maildroid and profimail to decide which one I want to use.
I'm not using a live wall paper. I have turned down the brightness to about 35%.
I use bedtime - alarm.
Only Total recall - a call recorder running in the background but it only pops up with phone calls.
And now juice defender.
No autosync. no usb debugger.
I have to say that I am not sure what to do about all the services.
Frankly it is a real pain having to take this amount of trouble with the phone just because the battery is not adequate. Luckily, the phone is so good that it is worth the hassle - just.
I'll try current widget as well.
I'm using Battery Doctor at the moment
Email apps are configured only to operate manually
check this guide :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=937080
I've had this phone for 2 months now, I use it pretty much the way you do (including some facebook and a few sms's) and I get more than 2 days out of it!!
Follow this guide, and if you re can, flash the Leedroid ROM.
You will not believe the difference in performance and battery.
Hi. I got my desire HD back in November and struggled to get 12 hours from it. So last week I rooted it and installed setCPU, set it to 768mhz I think and now I get 24 hours from battery!
That's my advice anyways
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Thank you for all the interest I am receiving with this.
I've installed current widget. As I reactivate the screen display back on it shows me a discharge of about 2Ma - very good.
With the screen on and no activity the discharge is about 257 Ma - very bad and it doesn't take much to get this up to over 350Ma - disastrous.
I've been considering rooting it but I have asked this initial question and don't have an answer as yet:- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970565
If you install Watchdog Lite from the Market you can see what is using your CPU and how much percentage of it is Idle. It could be possible that even though you are closing apps, they are still running in the background, especially with those on screen figures of 350, there's definitely something wrong there. For example, I have a game called iMobsters that even though I close it it runs in the background afterwards for at least an hour using up an average of 35% CPU which of course will run the battery down.
I'm Orange from UK and there was quite a bit of bloatware which was the main reason for me to root my phone. I'm unsure on your software version though. However if you follow the guide to root it as normal without downgrading, you'll know if you need to downgrade as Visionary+ won't be able to root it otherwise.
Rooting does help to uninstall apps you don't use too using Titanium Backup, for example, I uninstalled Friend Stream, News, Stocks, Twitter, Orange Services which all run in the background usually and run down battery.
Without playing too many games, I can get two days use out of mine now.
Yes, maybe I should bite the bullet on the rooting. Is it undoable?
There is a lot of advice about it on this forum. Which is the best set of instructions to look for and after that which is the best ROM?
Also, I can't find Watchdog Lite on the Market. Doesn't seem to be there. Do you have a link?
Thread closed....please read the sticky roll up as there's an existing,well documented Battery thread.
Regards,
M_T_M
The happy Mod
So I have the rev11 nexus 4 and it seems to have pretty awful battery life.. I'm running cm10.1 with the latest faux kernel with the faux clock app all set up: min clock is 594, max set at 1.35, intellidemand governor, eco mode and snake charmer on, voltage at -50mV, as well. I can't fit hardly any apps on this phone because I mistakenly got the 8gb version and can barely fit all the pictures and videos and music.. So no rouge apps or anything effecting the battery (I've already checked). The phones battery is at 40c, and CPU temp at 56c. Because of this, even when I have my phone set up the way it is and the brightness all the way down, I still only get 3 hours MAX of on screen time before it shuts off, completely dead. I've had this phone for a month but I'm about to call for yet another replacement (first one was defective but still had really good battery life). Does anyone have similar issues and should I definitely call and try to get a replacement?
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So I have the rev11 nexus 4 and it seems to have pretty awful battery life.. I'm running cm10.1 with the latest faux kernel with the faux clock app all set up: min clock is 594, max set at 1.35, intellidemand governor, eco mode and snake charmer on, voltage at -50mV, as well. I can't fit hardly any apps on this phone because I mistakenly got the 8gb version and can barely fit all the pictures and videos and music.. So no rouge apps or anything effecting the battery (I've already checked). The phones battery is at 40c, and CPU temp at 56c. Because of this, even when I have my phone set up the way it is and the brightness all the way down, I still only get 3 hours MAX of on screen time before it shuts off, completely dead. I've had this phone for a month but I'm about to call for yet another replacement (first one was defective but still had really good battery life). Does anyone have similar issues and should I definitely call and try to get a replacement?
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Battery drain is mostly caused by installed user apps running in the background and/or sync settings. Have you installed BetteBatteryStatts to see what consumes most energy? Also install CPU Spy for deep sleep issues.
gee2012 said:
Battery drain is mostly caused by installed user apps running in the background and/or sync settings. Have you installed BetteBatteryStatts to see what consumes most energy? Also install CPU Spy for deep sleep issues.
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Well as I said in my post there are no rogue background apps. The only apps I even have installed are reddit, fauxclock, cpu spy, and xda. I've looked and no internal processes use up much battery also. It's just the screen which is on the lowest brightness setting that seems to suck all the battery which usually doesn't even last three hours.
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Well as I said in my post there are no rogue background apps. The only apps I even have installed are reddit, fauxclock, cpu spy, and xda. I've looked and no internal processes use up much battery also. It's just the screen which is on the lowest brightness setting that seems to suck all the battery which usually doesn't even last three hours.
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Maybe a faulty battery, i get 3,5 to 4 hours screen on time with 50% brightness. Running stock rom and kernel atm.
I haven't had any battery drainage with my N4, but with my previous phone I did. In most cases when I had that type of drain, I would reflash the radio or flash a different one and that would cure it. I'm not sure what would cause the drain, but I was flashing different roms and at some point radio performance would drop off. I have seen some complaints with severe battery drainage with the N4, but I haven't seen anyone trying a fresh radio install. Might not help, but could be worth a shot.
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I haven't had any battery drainage with my N4, but with my previous phone I did. In most cases when I had that type of drain, I would reflash the radio or flash a different one and that would cure it. I'm not sure what would cause the drain, but I was flashing different roms and at some point radio performance would drop off. I have seen some complaints with severe battery drainage with the N4, but I haven't seen anyone trying a fresh radio install. Might not help, but could be worth a shot.
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I think what I'm going to do is just flash it back completely to stock and just use it for a week without installing anything. If I still only get 3 hours of screen on time I will try to RMA it. There just has to be something screwed up with this phone though because my last phone with the same settings applied got at the very least 5 hours of screen on time. When I can't even go through half a day on this phone with normal usage, even after tweaking and cutting performance along with always having low brightness then I think there is a problem.