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I've had my Hero since October. I've been reading these forums ever since I bought it. I keep reading about people switching from one rom to another, discussing battery life changes. Some people are stating they only have to charge their battery every two days, or get 16+ hours of heavy use on a charge. I'm on my 3rd rom, having tried Modaco, Fresh 1.0, and Fresh 1.1. I am now runnning Fresh 1.1 + Gumbo + SetCPU.
I work for Sprint. Advanced Tech Support. I work 13 hour days. I get to work, I turn off the mobile internet connection on my phone. I disable background data. In my SetCPU, I set it to powersave mode Min 245 Max 485. (Those might not be the exact numbers, at work can't check, but you get the idea.) After 13 1/2 hours, I go out and my battery is giving me the >15% remaining warning. I've maybe missed two calls and recieved 8 txts. On my off days, I wake up, take the phone off charge, and do a moderate amount of txting. I play a little music while im playing Xbox, maybe open the browser to check a game FAQ or walkthrough. Within about 3 hours of waking up I'm below 50%. If I'm planning on going to the bar to shoot pool I have to make sure my battery is fully charged, or if anyone is trying to get in touch with my I won't know cause I'm at the bar for 5+ hours txting and talking, and my phone will have died if not 100% charged. So...
I read that running Fresh 1.1+ Gumbo + SetCPU would greatly increase my battery life. Tried it. haven't noticed a change. I don't use task killers, I don't run apps, I think I've downloaded 9 apps from the market in 5 months. I use Shortcovers (Ebook reader). Dolphin browser, Handcent sms. Thats about it.
Is there a viable solution here? Does anyone have any troubleshooting steps to recommend, apps that might help, do a complete wipe and re-install Fresh and Gumbo? Change settings in CPU? I've been reading about Mugen and other batteries, any recommendations on which one would be best to try out? I love my phone, and I don't do anything to it without reading up on these forums first, just looking for any advice to not have to stay tethered to an AC outlet all day. Thanks.
fresh 1.1 + the less aggressive gumbo kernel will help alot. you don't need setcpu at all. i also recommend looking into a bigger extended battery, one that doesn't require the use of another back cover.
sirstanley said:
I've had my Hero since October.
I work for Sprint. Advanced Tech Support. I work 13 hour days. I get to work, I turn off the mobile internet connection on my phone. I disable background data. In my SetCPU,
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It really sounds like you have a background task that is running and not letting your phone sleep. I turn off mobile internet at night (so I don't get bugged with Tweets and other alerts) and my battery drops 3-4% overnight (7-8 hours while sleeping). What is your awake time?
On a full charge, I can go all day (7am - 10pm) and still have more than 30% left. I have 2 email accounts, each set to sync every 30 minutes, a twitter app set to sync every 15 minutes, and I don't use weather or location services. I think a lot of people experience poor battery life due to signal quality. I get really good signals at home and a fairly decent signal at work as long as I say out of the lower (basement) floors.
-Daryel
Here's my experience with my HTC Hero from H3G (Three) UK:
Had the phone for about 2 weeks now, battery lasts me easily 1 day with quite heavy use (30-60 min GPS, 2-3 hours browsing, installing programs, 30 min music, some texting and talking. I know that for some of you guys out there this might be 'light' usage, but I believe for all of this, battery life is quite good, better than my friends' Iphones. With moderate use i get through 2 days of usage. I am just experimenting with turning off Mobile Internet, have had the phone running for 60 hrs + and my battery is at 65%, I've been turning wifi on for a few minutes a couple of times and have been talking and moderate texting during this time. I intend to leave Mobile internet off until the battery runs out of power to see how much time I get out of it. I never turn the phone off at night. I am amazed what a big difference turning off Mobile Internet does.
The OP clearly states that he downloads / runs minimal apps, and asking a Sprint advanced tech if his phone is sleeping, while a nice gesture, isn't terribly practical. I hope.
I think that there are certain phones that don't scale with GCK or a change in the CPU governor very well. I have bounced around to every ROM available, flashed and reflashed, cleared boot and dalvik caches and played with about every governor / frequency setting imaginable. With all that, all I can conclude is that my personal phone does significantly worse when the governor isn't MSM7K and drains downright terrible under GCK's stripped governors on anything other than MSM7K. Even Powersave (which OP referenced) drains my phone significantly faster than MSM7K.
I'd recommend you keep your current GCK install and adjust SetCPU to MSM7K to min 245 max 480. Then enable Profiles > Sleep > min 160 max 245. For a bit more performance when your phone is awake slide your normal max to 528; add significant performance by sliding normal min to 480. See if that helps any.
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The OP clearly states that he downloads / runs minimal apps, and asking a Sprint advanced tech if his phone is sleeping, while a nice gesture, isn't terribly practical. I hope.
I think that there are certain phones that don't scale with GCK or a change in the CPU governor very well. I have bounced around to every ROM available, flashed and reflashed, cleared boot and dalvik caches and played with about every governor / frequency setting imaginable. With all that, all I can conclude is that my personal phone does significantly worse when the governor isn't MSM7K and drains downright terrible under GCK's stripped governors on anything other than MSM7K. Even Powersave (which OP referenced) drains my phone significantly faster than MSM7K.
I'd recommend you keep your current GCK install and adjust SetCPU to MSM7K to min 245 max 480. Then enable Profiles > Sleep > min 160 max 245. For a bit more performance when your phone is awake slide your normal max to 528; add significant performance by sliding normal min to 480. See if that helps any.
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Could just be the different experiences folks receive with the Hero but when I used SetCPU to create profiles, I saw much higher battery drain. Once again, may have just been my experience but battery runs much better without profiles on my device.
Thanks for the response. And yes, my phone does sleep. I checked Spare Parts, and my most used app is Lightning Bug (use it when I sleep at night. I live in the hood and it covers up the radios and dogs barking.) After that it's Shortcovers (my ebook reader.) and then Handcent. So no abnormal program activity. Lightning bug only runs while I sleep, shortcovers just when Im reading. So nothing keeping my phone awake or anything. I do have one of the first Heros, I pre-ordered and recieved it like October 10th, so it's not Google branded, if that makes a difference. I'm considering just getting another one, but after 5 months of flashing and moifying and tweaking I'm kinda attactched to my phone. I'd feel like I was trading in my wife. So I guess I'll just go for an after market battery. Any more advice would be great. Thanks again.
kbizzle said:
Could just be the different experiences folks receive with the Hero but when I used SetCPU to create profiles, I saw much higher battery drain. Once again, may have just been my experience but battery runs much better without profiles on my device.
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Personally I'm on Modaco 2.2. Pulled mocaco.sh and changed the governor from "performance" to "msm7k" and pushed it back to the phone. No compcache, but I did include the internal task killer call in compcache.sh. Read thru either the Modaco 2.2 thread or GCK if you need help.
I'm having the same results as you. I have a non-"with google" Hero200, and my battery life absolutely sucks.
Today, took it off the charger at about 10:30, now at 3:30 it was down to 20% battery.
this was leaving mobile data on and a few text messages.
How exactly do you choose how often you want email to sync? I tried finding that in the settings menu of the Gmail app, but there's nothing there about that, just signatures and such.
I am running gumbo 1.5c bare, so it's quick (no sense UI) but battery is just as bad as with sense.
I'm not running setCPU or anything, just gbhil's kernel (i think?)
I'm about ready to spring for an 1800 mAh battery
dangit
Hate to say it, but I'm glad im nota lone on this one. Misery loves company.
I'm gettin tired of reading about people claiming they get 2 days of moderate use out a hero without charging, with a stock battery. "Oh, with this new rom I just tried, after 12 hours I was below 50%, this is unacceptable, I can normally go 2 days without charging." WTF? Did they just build a choice few heros with super batteries? Just wondering.
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Hate to say it, but I'm glad im nota lone on this one. Misery loves company.
I'm gettin tired of reading about people claiming they get 2 days of moderate use out a hero without charging, with a stock battery. "Oh, with this new rom I just tried, after 12 hours I was below 50%, this is unacceptable, I can normally go 2 days without charging." WTF? Did they just build a choice few heros with super batteries? Just wondering.
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Lol, sorry man (I'm guessing you read my post at one point, 12 hours to 50%, it really did annoy me lol). I CAN get 2 days using Fresh 1.1, gumbo kernel, and SetCPU. Granted, I don't use my phone nearly as much as a lot of the people on here, but I also sit in areas with little to no service for most of my time, which can have a drastic effect on battery life.
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I'm having the same results as you. I have a non-"with google" Hero200, and my battery life absolutely sucks.
Today, took it off the charger at about 10:30, now at 3:30 it was down to 20% battery.
this was leaving mobile data on and a few text messages.
How exactly do you choose how often you want email to sync? I tried finding that in the settings menu of the Gmail app, but there's nothing there about that, just signatures and such.
I am running gumbo 1.5c bare, so it's quick (no sense UI) but battery is just as bad as with sense.
I'm not running setCPU or anything, just gbhil's kernel (i think?)
I'm about ready to spring for an 1800 mAh battery
dangit
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OUCH. I unplugged mine at 9am, it's now nearly 4, and I'm only down to 80%. Had WiFi on all morning, and mobile on from noon on. Sent a dozen texts, and read a half dozen emails (syncs every 15 min). Mobile data SHOULD sleep when your phone goes to sleep, and I think it'll turn on when your accounts/email sync. Same thing with WiFi.
I'm amazed at the massive variation in battery life people have. I wonder if there were a few different manufacturers of batteries, and that's causing the problem.
But I cant even bring my phone into the building so it sits in my glovebox with all data services off and no apps running for 13 hours and its at ten percent when I get off work. I just don't get it. I think I'm gonna wipe, reflash Fresh 1.1, reflash Gumbo, and start over.
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But I cant even bring my phone into the building so it sits in my glovebox with all data services off and no apps running for 13 hours and its at ten percent when I get off work. I just don't get it. I think I'm gonna wipe, reflash Fresh 1.1, reflash Gumbo, and start over.
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Wow, it sounds more like something might be wrong with your battery.
I could turn everything off on mine, and leave it sit in an area with decent service, and probably get over 2 days out of it...so that just seems odd. Are you running SetCPU? That'll help. Set it at either 160 or 245 min, and 528 max. "On Demand" seems to be working the best for me. It'll basically drop your processor speed when the phone's asleep, and bring it back up when you need it.
daryelv said:
It really sounds like you have a background task that is running and not letting your phone sleep. I turn off mobile internet at night (so I don't get bugged with Tweets and other alerts) and my battery drops 3-4% overnight (7-8 hours while sleeping). What is your awake time?
On a full charge, I can go all day (7am - 10pm) and still have more than 30% left. I have 2 email accounts, each set to sync every 30 minutes, a twitter app set to sync every 15 minutes, and I don't use weather or location services. I think a lot of people experience poor battery life due to signal quality. I get really good signals at home and a fairly decent signal at work as long as I say out of the lower (basement) floors.
-Daryel
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+1 on this. While I understand you're a Sprint tech, it's still good to check the awake time, as it's a good indicator that something's awry. You said you run minimal apps, do you run any weather apps at all? Had some bad luck with those. Also, do you roam? I know setting it to Sprint Only helped me at home, and this is what you suggest to ppl everyday, so I'm not telling you anything, but some of the things we KNOW to be absolutely true can be wrong under our noses sometimes because we're so sure. Double check everything again.
I know it's painful to think of this as a viable solution, but there absolutely IS a way to determine if it's apps or not. I've had great luck with Fresh 1.1 AND Gumbo 1.5b. SetCPU and Gumbo Kernel made it even better.
Try this: Install either Gumbo or Fresh 1.1, the Gumbo Kernel, and setCPU (that one is optional for you I suppose, but I'd recommend it)
Don't install a single app or widget for the first day. Not a single one. Leave it for 24 hours, and see the battery life. (exceptions for apps that don't run in the background or connect for data or updates)
Then install them one by one until you find your culprit. This is how I found the weather widget was sucking the life out of my hero.
I too, have a non "with google" hero 200, and I have GREAT battery life, and even had great battery life on Fresh 1.1 when I had near 80 apps installed.
I'd bet money it's something in the background. I can speak a lot for Fresh 1.1 as I've used it the most. Great ROM, great battery life.
Btw, I also have two email accounts, one Exchange, one Gmail, BOTH set to "as items arrive" and I still can go from morning to bed on a charge with no probs.
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To echo Tatonka_hero, I also recommend doing the ondemand 528/245 as it worked really well for me. I got even better battery life when going that route than before, although I was never complaining about battery life in the first place.
my opinion.. it has to be something due to the signal strength.
I wonder if there is a way.. to check and monitor how often the phone looses tower contact? Then it has to try to find the next tower available, then has to bounce back to the closer one when it pops up? Is it constantly, jumping from one week signal to the next?
Which would keep the radio up and running... while the phone itself looks asleep.
Just me guessing.. with no Knowledge to base this off of.
I don't use any weather apps. A list of every app I have that didnt come with the phone:
Handcent
Shortcovers
Lightning Bug
Gensoid
GBCoid
Spare Parts
Terminal
ES File Explorer
SetCPU
I know you guys are really stuck on the idea that I'm running some intresting app, but I'm sorry to dissapoint. I wiped the phone, flashed Modaco, wiped, flashed Fresh 1.0, wiped, flashed Fresh 1.1, wiped, flashed gumbo. And then I re-downloaded the apps above. I work 7 days a week, I like to read Ebooks before I go to bed, I use lightning bug when I sleep, and if I'm riding with someone I play my emulators. Thats the story of my phone use. Also listen to music if I take a day off and im playing xbox. Theres nothing running in the background. I always have at lest 3-4 bars of signal strength. I turn off mobile network (data) when not using it. I keep my GPS off. I check Spare Parts, and everything in there is pretty much correct. My phones awake time is about 20%, if that. haven't checked in a couple days. So, tonight I'm gonna wipe, re-install Fresh 1.1, re-install Gumbo, and see if that helps at all. Is there any kind of consensus on the best settings for setCPU to save my battery?
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I don't use any weather apps. A list of every app I have that didnt come with the phone:
Handcent
Shortcovers
Lightning Bug
Gensoid
GBCoid
Spare Parts
Terminal
ES File Explorer
SetCPU
I know you guys are really stuck on the idea that I'm running some intresting app, but I'm sorry to dissapoint. I wiped the phone, flashed Modaco, wiped, flashed Fresh 1.0, wiped, flashed Fresh 1.1, wiped, flashed gumbo. And then I re-downloaded the apps above. I work 7 days a week, I like to read Ebooks before I go to bed, I use lightning bug when I sleep, and if I'm riding with someone I play my emulators. Thats the story of my phone use. Also listen to music if I take a day off and im playing xbox. Theres nothing running in the background. I always have at lest 3-4 bars of signal strength. I turn off mobile network (data) when not using it. I keep my GPS off. I check Spare Parts, and everything in there is pretty much correct. My phones awake time is about 20%, if that. haven't checked in a couple days. So, tonight I'm gonna wipe, re-install Fresh 1.1, re-install Gumbo, and see if that helps at all. Is there any kind of consensus on the best settings for setCPU to save my battery?
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Thanks for the detailed reply...it helps us get a better picture of your habits.
That being said, use the ondemand 528/245 and you should be just fine. Make sure to set it to save those settings on reboot too, because setCPU used to (not sure if it still does) set itself to performance mode on reboot otherwise which would definitely drain your battery.
alright this is probably a stupid question but how do i check awake time with spare parts? is it under battery history? then is it partial wake usage option?
And is Locale.apk known to be a battery hog...I feel like it might be...ouch.
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alright this is probably a stupid question but how do i check awake time with spare parts? is it under battery history? then is it partial wake usage option?
And is Locale.apk known to be a battery hog...I feel like it might be...ouch.
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It's just under Settings > About Phone > Status then all the way down
past 2-4 days.... my nexus just dies suddenly with the battery drained. checking history with system panel shows that the cpu usage just suddenly shoots up to 100%! and i dont know what app is causing it.
just updated locale and extended controls + a lot of other apps. but my main main suspects are locale and extended controls (since EC posted that they are having problems with the update on the nexus)
any ideas? any other apps i could use to target and isolate the rogue app that drains my battery?
get a task manager and see ?
also, it may just be time for a new battery. ebay. $13 shipped, 2400 mah
antikryst said:
past 2-4 days.... my nexus just dies suddenly with the battery drained. checking history with system panel shows that the cpu usage just suddenly shoots up to 100%! and i dont know what app is causing it.
just updated locale and extended controls + a lot of other apps. but my main main suspects are locale and extended controls (since EC posted that they are having problems with the update on the nexus)
any ideas? any other apps i could use to target and isolate the rogue app that drains my battery?
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System Panel HAS a history, and you can see which apps are using CPU, so have you done that? Is the phone getting hot? It would if the CPU was running 100%. And even at that, it wouldn't immediately die, I've never exactly tried to see how long 100% cpu utilization takes to drain the battery but I'd have to guess it's at least 2-3 hours.
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System Panel HAS a history, and you can see which apps are using CPU, so have you done that? Is the phone getting hot? It would if the CPU was running 100%. And even at that, it wouldn't immediately die, I've never exactly tried to see how long 100% cpu utilization takes to drain the battery but I'd have to guess it's at least 2-3 hours.
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seems fine at first then when i notice its hot... it is already about to restart. couldnt even get to check the app usage on system panel. after reboot... the app usage in system panel goes away. just checked now.. nothing is eating the battery up according to system panel.
guess the rogue app just turns on and eats up all the juice at some point in time. weird.
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System Panel HAS a history, and you can see which apps are using CPU, so have you done that? Is the phone getting hot? It would if the CPU was running 100%. And even at that, it wouldn't immediately die, I've never exactly tried to see how long 100% cpu utilization takes to drain the battery but I'd have to guess it's at least 2-3 hours.
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seems fine at first then when i notice its hot... it is already about to restart. couldnt even get to check the app usage on system panel. after reboot... the app usage in system panel goes away. just checked now.. nothing is eating the battery up according to system panel.
guess the rogue app just turns on and eats up all the juice at some point in time. weird.
Do you have SetCPU or anything else enabled with a performance-oriented governor or similar? That would likely keep the CPU pegged at the max without really doing anything.
Try disabling as many applications as you can until you can pinpoint which one is misbehaving.
Same Problem Here
My phone is experiencing atrocious battery life, and so is a friend of mine's. We are both on FRG83D, and it seems to have been the trigger for the problem. He is on AT&T and I am on T-Mo. My wife also has an N1 on FRG83D on T-Mo, but her phone is not having the problem. Her phone is set up very Vanilla, my friend and I have more system altering stuff on ours but nothing too wild, and none of the phones have ever been rooted. The two problem phones both use Launcher Pro and Extended Controls, I am not sure what else we have in common in our apps. I installed System Panel today to try and figure out what is happening, but I still can't find an obvious culprit. While the phone is sitting on the dock charging the CPU seems to be idling under 10% and when I pock it up and look at System Panel you can watch the CPU spike to the upper ranges if you scroll the screen but otherwise it is idling under 10%. The display is always the highest on battery usage and the worst app shows as System Panel, but that is basically what I expect to see. I am ready to start removing apps to see if I can get it back to normal unless anyone has an idea of how to better diagnose the issue.
I had this issue a while ago. "system" was taking up all my CPU, and I couldn't find any details about what was really causing the problem. I couldn't remember how I finally found out about the problem (I think I spent a night reading the logcat to see what was wrong). I couldn't even use the phone, it became horribly sluggish, and battery went flat in mere hours. Turns out, I had a bad picture or two in my SD Card, and the media indexer went in a loop trying to interpret the files. For some weird reasons, the same files got Windows Explorer "confused" too.
Try to remove or format your SD card and see if it's doing the same. I know it's more of an anecdote than a real known issue, but it won't hurt trying
oh wow i was hoping someone was having the same problem... left it overnight unplugged so far so good. now im really beginning to think its extended controls. took out the widget and replaced it with the stock one for now.
IDLING at 10% CPU usage??? Mine idle at 0% if nothing is active. Average 3% over time.
You guys should watch and see what's using hte most CPU, SystemPanel can do it if you look at the history (free for a week or 10 days or something, or buy it to keep the function), but also look at Spare Parts, you can install it from the market. It gives you visibility to a few more Android settings/info menus which you can see which apps are keeping the system awake etc, it can help pinpoint what's going on.
Something very bad is happening. When you all figure it out, report back.
When I look at system panel the little CPU circle graph stays at 100% for the most part. I don't understand if its accurate.
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Do you have the app 'Extended Control' installed? The last update is very buggy and is causing bad battery life and broke the camera app on the N1. Check comments on the market. They are working on a fix.
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Looks like Extended Controls
I did some testing and Extended Controls does appear to be the culprit. Dev seems to be aware, hopefully they get it sorted.
Edit-Overnight and battery life is back to normal with Extended Controls uninstalled. I didn't suspect it at first because they had already released an update after FRG83D, but apparently it was broken worse than they knew. I hope they fix it soon, I like the app.
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When I look at system panel the little CPU circle graph stays at 100% for the most part. I don't understand if its accurate.
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It obviously should not sit at 100%, look and see what app is using CPU, it ain't rocket science.. Mine idles around 3% with my apps, mainly K9 and Tasker, weather etc..
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This is by far my favorite Rom yet but I'm having battery issues that I haven't had before. I unplugged my phone last night at 100% and when i woke up 5 hours later my battery was at 68% normally it would only drop about 10% or less in 5 hours. any ideas? I have all new radios and wimax and such.
Is your phone sleeping?
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Once we get a new custom kernel, it should remedy the battery issues on that ROM.
We just have to wait for HTC to release the source for the latest kernel.
OK stupid question how do I know if my phone is sleeping ?
At 7am I reset battery stats and put in a 100% battery (charged on an external charger)
Now (11:15) I am at 69% I expect this to get better once the batt stats are done.
I have new radios and the kernel for the ROM.
stock battery. i dont think my phone is sleeping.
If you have mobile data on, your battery will drain a lot faster, especially while we're all stuck with the stock kernel
No battery problems here. Altho it is the stock Kernel, i can easily use my phone for a full day with several calls, a bit of gaming and youtube (3G) while in the pooper and have 50-60% remaining in the evening
Try to reduce app sync frequency (you don't need that when in bed really..), LED notifications
No juice defender, or taskiller, or extended battery- just using setCPU with "onDemand" governor
That's about where mine is, too. I'm used to my SBC setup though, where I'd be at 85% by the end of the day.
You should not be losing that much battery over night. I generally only lose 2-3%. Have you checked your battery usage? Post a screen shot of it.
It looks like this
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You can see when your phone is awake vs screen off. And if you click on the apps in the list, it will tell you how long that app kept the phone awake,
So when can we expect a custom kernel. i use set cpu with ondemand also no juice defender or app killers here either.
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So when can we expect a custom kernel. i use set cpu with ondemand also no juice defender or app killers here either.
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Probably at the end of the month. :/
If watching paint dry is your thing, you can look back here
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my phone signal and wifi are lit up all way across i can see my phone wakes in tiny increments and then sleeps
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my phone signal and wifi are lit up all way across i can see my phone wakes in tiny increments and then sleeps
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So something is waking up your device then. You don't have the wake lock issue. Do you use google latitude? That is a huge battery hog
yes i do use latitude all my sync like facebook and weather are set to 1 hour but have always been and never had this problem before.
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yes i do use latitude all my sync like facebook and weather are set to 1 hour but have always been and never had this problem before.
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Try it w/o latitude on. I only drop 1-2 maybe 3% through the night once i turned those off. I have my facebook contacts set to sync once a day (don't really need more than that unless you add friends a lot or they update their picture frequently)
Weather I have set to 3 hours, but there is an option to update on device wake..so that isn't an issue either.
Give it a try and see if it helps.
Also if you haven't calibrated your battery, charge your phone to 100%, boot to recovery and wipe battery stats, drain battery til phone shuts off and then charge phone back to 100%. I can usually get about 24 hours of moderate use out of my phone.
ok will try those. i did battery wipe just yesterday
just click the link in my signature for some really good battery tips
OK guys so nothing I done helped my battery life while sleeping so I wiped wiped and wiped again and reflashed twice set everything back up and now my phone sleeps again. These roms can be funny like that sometimes I guess. Any thoughts on that?
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Roms, especially ones that are ports, can be weird like that sometimes. If a couple of wipes and a re-flash did the trick then I'd say that's great.
If not, then it's just bad luck I guess. Hopefully the kernel source will come out in the next few weeks and we'll be able to get kernels that can squeeze out better battery life.
I've unlocked and am running Ken's Alien ROM and so far I really like this. Im an international user on orange uk, so I use faux123's kernel for Oc and ram fix. But there is one caveat. I have really rubbish battery life. I did all the stuff (charge to 100% from 0% wipe stats, calibrate). The fact is, I left it on, for ten hours. The display was on for about 2. No usage. When I returned the battery was 30%, with phone idle consuming 30%. Newer radio needed? What can I do? My baseband is N_01.95.00R .
I've heard good things about the newest AT&T radio for battery. How can I flash this to an international ATRIX?
Help appreciated
Edit : phone idle consumed 40% :O
I have the exact same issue. Unfortunately, all that I can say is that changing neither kernel, radio or rom did fix this issue. I had some improvements when I followed this topic and flashed back my stock kernel (with no OC), but still very far from what I would consider a decent battery lifetime (10h with 3g + email and twitter sync and screen off)
Some users have tried and it worked well from them. I'm on the team that didn't work ): But you could give it a shot
Calibrate your battery. Charge to 100% wipe battery stats. Then discharge to shut off. Then charge to 100% again.
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Calibrate your battery. Charge to 100% wipe battery stats. Then discharge to shut off. Then charge to 100% again.
OP stated he tried calibration without success... I too am having subpar battery performance - interested to see what others have done to achieve better battery performance besides the previously mentioned methods.
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Calibrate your battery. Charge to 100% wipe battery stats. Then discharge to shut off. Then charge to 100% again.
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I've done all that stuff, but it doesn't help IMHO. (at least it didn't do anything for me)
Only 2 real fixes that have worked for me are these:
1. Freeze unnecessarily apps with Titanium Backup (use "System panel" from the Market to find out what keeps constantly running/popping up in the background that you don't need)
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2. Turn off Automatic Sync, and get in the habit of doing that stuff manually all at once.
@2. I use to sync in the worst signal areas, and that drained the **** out of my battery. Sync/get your updates manually in strong signal areas whenever possible...
New radio from the fruitcakes thread and the latest faux123 kernel seemed to kill that bug.
I sold my atrix to my less then nerdy friend and I just fixed that bug for him yesterday. Same deal tho...
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I noticed from X2 battery (I think) every minute or two the phone constantly checks for either cell or data signal. I can let my iphone 4 sit on the counter all day and it might use 1-2% but my atrix drops 5% in an hour without touching it. No calibration or battery fix will help. Even CM7 uses it fairly quickly. Im running Alien 4 with max battery saver and gps and auto sync disabled...it should last for a full day with heavy usage.
Alien 4 w/theme, faux123 kernel, everything at stock settings for this rom, nothing frozen, and I am sitting at 1 day and 13 hours with 28% left, mostly idle, but an hour long call and bit of game playing.
If you are getting something on the order of just a few hours then your phone or battery must be bad. I am doing nothing to extend the battery life other then using the default settings.
The phone should get 2 days sitting on the counter..LOL Of all the phones I've had and iPhones I've jailbroken, there is definately something wrong with the Motorola or Android software running on this phone. I've never had to worry about calibrating or battery fixes. This is just my honest opinion. I've had 2 ROMs in all the ones I've flashed that had good battery life and I think it was a coincedence that maybe something didn't load right or got deleted by accident.
Phoneguy589 said:
The phone should get 2 days sitting on the counter..LOL Of all the phones I've had and iPhones I've jailbroken, there is definately something wrong with the Motorola or Android software running on this phone. I've never had to worry about calibrating or battery fixes. This is just my honest opinion. I've had 2 ROMs in all the ones I've flashed that had good battery life and I think it was a coincedence that maybe something didn't load right or got deleted by accident.
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Most iphone users need to charge at LEAST once a day. A lot of them charge more than once. I can sometimes get 2 days usage from my Atrix, with heavy texting, some calls, and some games - which is pretty damn good.
Maybe your battery is the issue. not all Atrix are created equal and not all batteries function the same
When you go into settings>running apps, does your free and used ram add up to over 800? Mine used to and now it doesn't. It adds up to like 750....I always thought it would add up to mid to upper 800's. It also could be the battery but I was pointing out that I have left my wife's Iphone 4 and my atrix on the counter all day (neither one got used) and my atrix was down in the 70% range and her phone was at 96%. I'm just thinking something is running or consuming the battery. I've used fastboot to do all wipes and still seem to be having an issue.... I also flash ROMs every few days so maybe the battery calibration doesn't have time to really calibrate. I'll pick a combo I like and keeep it for a few days and see if I notice a better battery life.
How long has it been since you've flashed a ROM? It usually takes a few days for it to settle back in and provide decent battery life (at least from my experience). My phone right now has been on for a little over 7 hours and is at about 55% with Display using up 60% of the battery (3hrs on). This is with the Alien v4 and Faux's latest kernel. The first few days after flashing a ROM my phone would usually only last about 7 hours.
i get 2-3 days on stand by. and about 6-8 hours of straight use. 3-5 if i'm using mobile broadband.
1: keep gps and data off (background data is almost irrelevant.)
2: use green power
3: use a task manager to close applications that you are not using. (be sure you can add "ignore" exceptions otherwise get a different manager. anyone who says not to use a task manager is a ****ing punk hipster ***** fag who's irreparable damage to the geeks good name will not go unpunished)
4: do the "wipe battery stats" bit after every flash (100% charge, wipe stats, full discharge)
5: is to install a custom kernel and use SetCPU to underclock to 312 while the screen is off..
most importantly: use your head. if you stream 1080p using mobile broadband for 2 hours your battery is dead.
I flash ROMs every few days but I call BS on the whole "Battery Calibration" thing. If my battery is showing 4200mv...it's full. It will die faster the more processes the phone does so my point it....whether I flash a rom every day it shouldn't matter, if the phone (After I set up and install whetever apps) gets unplugged, something drains the battery. Maybe the infra red sensor is always on, or a process is always starting and ending, who knows but the battery cannot be calibrated, the phone might need to be calibrated to read the correct voltage but batteries don't hold memory unlike the old NiCD rechargables from years ago.
When you flash a rom the battery stats get messed up. Based on what I know the way the battery drains depends on previous battery usage data hence the reason why it last longer after a few days of use after a rom is flashed. It needs to build up new data to correctly report battery use. Maybe I'm wrong but my experience supports this.
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I am running Alien v4 with the stock kernel and I am getting well over a day with pretty heavy usage (phone calls, texts, emails, FB, twitter, XDA, Games). My setup:
Battery Mode= Maximum Battery Savings
Auto Brightness off, usually on 30%
Unused blur apps frozen
Reinstalled performancemanager.apk (blur task manager), set to kill unnecessary apps after 2 minutes of inactivity
No overclock, I don't see the need to overclock outside of high benchmark scores. Without overclock I still play every game smoothly without any hickups or slow downs. The phone still feels super fast without it.
I turn off all unused services (gps, bluetooth, wifi)
After you charge your phone and take it off the charger, reboot it.
It seems that a process kills the phones battery after you take it off the charger. You have to reboot after taking it off. It works wonders. Currently on 16 hours of use @ 45% battery on alien rom with stock kernel.
Cheers.
lilhaiti said:
I am running Alien v4 with the stock kernel and I am getting well over a day with pretty heavy usage (phone calls, texts, emails, FB, twitter, XDA, Games). My setup:
Battery Mode= Maximum Battery Savings
Auto Brightness off, usually on 30%
Unused blur apps frozen
Reinstalled performancemanager.apk (blur task manager), set to kill unnecessary apps after 2 minutes of inactivity
No overclock, I don't see the need to overclock outside of high benchmark scores. Without overclock I still play every game smoothly without any hickups or slow downs. The phone still feels super fast without it.
I turn off all unused services (gps, bluetooth, wifi)
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I use the same battery settings recently. I turn off GPS and Sync unless I'm using navigation. Which blur apps do you freeze? I just noticed (read on the Alien thread) On the unlock screen, hold the home button and it unlocks. I wonder if something like in pocket detection keeps the IR eye on all the time.
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I use the same battery settings recently. I turn off GPS and Sync unless I'm using navigation. Which blur apps do you freeze? I just noticed (read on the Alien thread) On the unlock screen, hold the home button and it unlocks. I wonder if something like in pocket detection keeps the IR eye on all the time.
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I have frozen:
All of the authenticators
Weather
Tasks,
Home,(I use launcher pro)
Music (I use Poweramp)
Toggle Widgets,
News,
GingerBlur,
Gallery, (I use QuicPic)
i changed the phones battery i noticed that it is acting weird. i fully charged the phone and this morning i took the charger out and in 30 minutes without touching it it dropped to 95% and from 7 am until 4 am the battery is now at 26% without even touching it. what happens is when i look at it it says that is still 95 but then when i go to settings/battery then it changed to 26 out of nowhere. i tried putting the old battery but still no go.i tried installing a custom rom and kernel and i even tried 4.2.2 stock and 4.3 stock and even changing radio and i looked online for help but same thing happens. i dont know whether is a battery problem or a software or hardware problem. i really need the phone working and i was wondering if someone had the same problem and also if you used to charge the phone with a wireless charging station because i saw something about using it and then not getting enough power from stock charger. i bought it on ebay and the previous owner had a wireless charging if it helps and he told me a new battery would fix the blinking red light of death. any fixes for this? here is the video of the weird battery problem and it is on airplane mode and safe mode. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlFqagJ2v-k here is another video of how slow the device detects the battery drain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Blz68xgQcDU
Install the following app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats
You can find a free version that works just as great but I personally like this. Charge to 100% then just use it normally. After it drains, open up the app and see what wakelocks there are. You can Google them and it'll tell you what to disable or uninstall from there
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I have a problem like yours... during the night my phone drain 10-15% of the battery in airplane mode... i've tried to install stock rom, clean install of cm11, some kernels, UV and UC... nothing works...
Last night i went to sleep with 93%, after 8 hours i had 93% but after 5-6 seconds it dropped to 81%.... no sync, airplane mode, greenify on all apps...
I've also bought a new battery... nothing to do... it can be can hardware problem?
Thanks
Is anything wrong with my battery?CM11 with ak kernel @ 1944 mhz, intellidemand, eco mode on, Wi-Fi on, GPS on, auto brightness on
VikramW8 said:
Is anything wrong with my battery?CM11 with ak kernel @ 1944 mhz, intellidemand, eco mode on, Wi-Fi on, GPS on, auto brightness on
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First of all kill that 1.9Ghz OC for gods sake....poor phone
Mashed_Potatoes said:
First of all kill that 1.9Ghz OC for gods sake....poor phone
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Well the graph has started from when the phone was at 1.2Ghz... The battery life just doesn't get worse.. Its the same with 1.2 and 1.9.. Just some minor differences.. There is less heat and low performance on 1.2 and on 1.9 the phone heats up quite a bit but the performance also increases considerable.. But it doesn't seem to affect battery life..
Vikram: Firstly, its bad manners to hijack someone else's thread. You should start your own if you have a question.
It's hard to say if it affects a battery life, because your graph is over the span of two days. One single charge and discharge cycle is sufficient to demonstrate any issues. In any case, it may be unrelated to your overclocked processor, I would install the wake lock detector app and start from there.