So, I accidentally got my 4g taken away through all the flashing i did, and I took it today to a sprint store to get it fixed (before i did this, i grabbed my old sd card which is 100% clean, also used the guide on how to downgrade from a rooted to stock, and then i upgraded to froyo stock).
It took them about 40 minutes of checking and stuff, at which point they came out to tell me the phone was flashed prior to the point which would void my warantee or w/e. Meaning even though i reseted my phone, upgraded to stock froyo, and cleared my sd card, they are still able to tell that your phone has been flashed.
The good news is that I have insurance on it, meaning i can get a brand new one for 100$. Just gonna report it lost, and get another one for 100$ and sell the old one on ebay
How could they tell? What sys info could there posibbly be that would let them figure out it had ever had any other rom version?
Couldn't you just ##786# and then Menu > Reset all before taking it in (with official firmware of course.) ?
When you claim your phone lost or stolen, they block that ESN so it can't be reactivated.
Sent from my beloved HTC EVO 4G.
scirio said:
How could they tell? What sys info could there posibbly be that would let them figure out it had ever had any other rom version?
Couldn't you just ##786# and then Menu > Reset all before taking it in (with official firmware of course.) ?
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already did. I reset it several times from recovery, through the phone and through ##786#. After which I used reset the phone to unrooted 2.2 froyo. Going to reset it one more time today, with some different files, and take it into a different store. See if that helps. If not then I'm just gonna report it as lost, sell it on ebay, and get a new one.
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When you claim your phone lost or stolen, they block that ESN so it can't be reactivated.
Sent from my beloved HTC EVO 4G.
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Since when? I did the same thing with my samsung instinct. Claimed it as lost, and then re-activated it for my son, and i kept the new one.
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Since when? I did the same thing with my samsung instinct. Claimed it as lost, and then re-activated it for my son, and i kept the new one.
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You boneheads are why we end up paying so much for stuff. That's fraud!
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You boneheads are why we end up paying so much for stuff. That's fraud!
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like i give a ****. the phone was a complete failure. + They should fix the evo as well. It's a problem of sprint authenticating my phone + i'm paying for the 10$ extra 4g speeds, either deactivate that, or reauth the phone.
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You boneheads are why we end up paying so much for stuff. That's fraud!
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When you make a claim through Asurion, they have no access to your Sprint account only to see if you have the insurance plan so they have no way to access your account to restrict the ESN and label it lost or stolen so that is where the loophole lies......
He probably didn't put the security back on the phone.. prob said s-off still..
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When you make a claim through Asurion, they have no access to your Sprint account only to see if you have the insurance plan so they have no way to access your account to restrict the ESN and label it lost or stolen so that is where the loophole lies......
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I have a little bit of a bone to pick with them.. about two weeks ago my wife lost her palm pixi... we put a claim in and I paid the $100 for a new one. Got the phone in but did not activate it due to me moving this last weekend. During the move, found her phone. I call asurion and tell them to take the flag off the ESN so I can just reactivate her phone. They say they cannot do that and since I found her phone to send it in to them. I told them ok, after I transfer her data I will send you that phone and you credit me my deductable. They said no.. I said then take the flag off of her phone and I will send you back yours and you give me the deductable. They said no... I said ok, well screw you.. I am selling the phone you gave me then and using her other to sell for parts and buying her an Evo... the damn pixi can pretty much be had for less than $100.. pricks.
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He probably didn't put the security back on the phone.. prob said s-off still..
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Nope, checked that as well. It was on. Using:
RUU_Supersonic_1.32.651.1_Radio_1.39.00.04.26_release_171253
right now. Going to a diff store in a couple minutes to see if they notice it.
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You boneheads are why we end up paying so much for stuff. That's fraud!
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How do you think his son feels having a crook for a father. Poor kid. Hopefully the apple falls far from the tree. Otherwise, next stop, juvi.
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I have a little bit of a bone to pick with them.. about two weeks ago my wife lost her palm pixi... we put a claim in and I paid the $100 for a new one. Got the phone in but did not activate it due to me moving this last weekend. During the move, found her phone. I call asurion and tell them to take the flag off the ESN so I can just reactivate her phone. They say they cannot do that and since I found her phone to send it in to them. I told them ok, after I transfer her data I will send you that phone and you credit me my deductable. They said no.. I said then take the flag off of her phone and I will send you back yours and you give me the deductable. They said no... I said ok, well screw you.. I am selling the phone you gave me then and using her other to sell for parts and buying her an Evo... the damn pixi can pretty much be had for less than $100.. pricks.
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Pretty sure there was never a block on the ESN. Trust me, i know a few people that did the same as me, and they never blocked the ESN. Also I know a guy who just called it lost, and never even deactivated/turned off the phone. Received the new one and sold it, while still using the old one.
Also FishTaco, Considering as of last year, my income went from xx,xxx to 6 digits, I would hope the apple falls closer to the tree.
I checked the S-On, but i never checked the PRI. Could of been the reason they found out it was rooted.
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Also FishTaco, Considering as of last year, my income went from xx,xxx to 6 digits, I would hope the apple falls closer to the tree.
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You are my hero.....Funny how that 6 figure income (cough) turned you into a cheating tightwad.
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You are my hero.....Funny how that 6 figure income (cough) turned you into a cheating tightwad.
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1. It was before my new job
2. Why should i pay 350$ for a new phone, when i'm paying for 4g service that doesn't work?
edit: actually it's more than 350 since I'm no longer able to upgrade and would have to buy the device without a plan.
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1. It was before my new job
2. Why should i pay 350$ for a new phone, when i'm paying for 4g service that doesn't work?
edit: actually it's more than 350 since I'm no longer able to upgrade and would have to buy the device without a plan.
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lol because you signed a contract to do so?
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Also FishTaco, Considering as of last year, my income went from xx,xxx to 6 digits, I would hope the apple falls closer to the tree.
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pfft, six figure incomes are for women. My income has 8 numbers, then a little dot, then two more numbers..
He probably couldnt tell you flashed it himself, he probably did everything he could to fix it, or he probably went through some sort of checklist of things that could break 4g and ways to fix it; and then just came to conclusion that you must've flashed it in order to break it.
sorry i gotta call BS on knowing you rooted the phone ! ive rooted and returned to many for various hardware troubles never never had any body tell me i had a cooked rom flashed on the the phone in question
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I talked to a rep today on the phone and told him I was using a custom firmware and wanted my Data back.
He said sign this waiver, saying you cannot hold Rogers responsible for not being able to dial 911, and you can use your custom firmware.
Thank me later. Unless this is old news...
https://your.rogers.com/web_auth/HT...ts-_-Consumer_Wireless_Eng-_-Form-_-HTCwaiver
After signing you will have data back in 24hours.
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I talked to a rep today on the phone and told him I was using a custom firmware and wanted my Data back.
He said sign this waiver, saying you cannot hold Rogers responsible for not being able to dial 911, and you can use your custom firmware.
Thank me later. Unless this is old news...
https://your.rogers.com/web_auth/HT...ts-_-Consumer_Wireless_Eng-_-Form-_-HTCwaiver
After signing you will have data back in 24hours.
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it is old news , but i've tried for 2 days now and it will constantly tell me to enter a valid serial number ..I am using the IMEI from the box and under battery still no success
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it is old news , but i've tried for 2 days now and it will constantly tell me to enter a valid serial number ..I am using the IMEI from the box and under battery still no success
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Ah ok, yea it's not taking my IMEI either... i called rogers and they are working on it... hopefully they get back to me quickly.
Is this a downgrade? So you can use custom ROMs? Or is it just data enabler for rogers customers? This won't help anyone stuck on sense?
I signed this on Friday and since have had my data cut twice!
The 2G Force trick works for getting it back every time so far, so I haven't bothered to call them on it yet. If they start redirecting my calls again they will hear from me for sure.
I talked to rogers live support because my imei number wasnt being accepted and he ended up putting it through... i think... I haven't installed a rom that wouldnt be blacklisted yet but yeah try that
The waiver form is mostly broken. The IMEI database it is verifying against seems to be missing many IMEIs for handsets purchased directly from Rogers, let alone from other carriers.
If you jump up and down and get to a tier 2 guy, he can manually get your IMEI added to the database so you can put the waiver through. The front line guys cannot add your IMEI, though they can send off a request for it to be added.
If you complain enthusiastically enough, they can re-enable your data services on the spot.
Apparently they cannot fill out the waiver for for you if you IMEI is not being recognised, though the tier 1 techs will lie and claim they are doing this.
This is based on my personal experience, of calls on Saturday, Sunday, a call back from a tier 2 on Monday and then a long and unpleasant call with retentions this afternoon. Magically the retentions supervisor could get me through to a tech that had override capabilities within minutes, once we got past the lies and bull**** stage.
In theory, once you get your waiver in, they should stop screwing around with your data services, redirecting voice calls, and hassling calls and text messages. I will see how it goes....
Well, thanks for the heads up with this waiver. Of course my IMEI # wasn't valid, so I called Rogers Directly, asking for Tech Support.
The point of my call was to get them to update my account, saying I accept this waiver. I think we all know it is hit and miss when speaking with Reps. I was speaking to a guy, he asked my Build Version, and firmware. I didn't tell him the Build Version (MarsDroid SPL7 1.8), because I knew it would not be acceptable. I told him my f/w was 1.6, which he said would be acceptable.
At this point, he said that I would NOT lose my data again, and Rogers would stop scanning my phone. I made sure to ask the question, so whatever I do to my phone at this point on doesn't matter, my data will not be cut off? He said yes.
I am only repeating what I was told, I think you can probably tell by my wording that I am not convinced this will be the case. Eitherway, I feel more confident to flash back to my old radio, which is all i want, because the kernel is much more developed, and makes for much more stable and faster ROMs.
Also, should let you know, so far I haven't had my data cutoff, I switched to CursorSense ROM before the Rogers scanning started, and have stayed on the New Radio up until now.
I signed the waiver on Friday, and got my service back Sunday morning.
No issues with IMEI...
I then called on Monday to get my free HTC Magic that I've been b1tching about for the last month (calling once a week)..
things are looking ok for now.. I have a Dream running Open Eclair (2.1), and now a stock unrootable Magic (1.5).. gonna keep the Magic legit thou..
I hope the best for all of you out there...
I lost my data six days ago now and I've called Tech Support 4 times since to help get it back. The waiver won't accept my IMEI and I've been escalated twice. Spoke with tier 2 support 3 times and a Manager. Apparently there is a system wide problem with allowing some IMEIs to be entered for the waiver to work. I'm getting so frustrated now, I don't know what else to do but wait. I've asked for network refreshes each time, and I've been running Cursorsense with the new radio.
Any ideas?
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I lost my data six days ago now and I've called Tech Support 4 times since to help get it back. The waiver won't accept my IMEI and I've been escalated twice. Spoke with tier 2 support 3 times and a Manager. Apparently there is a system wide problem with allowing some IMEIs to be entered for the waiver to work. I'm getting so frustrated now, I don't know what else to do but wait. I've asked for network refreshes each time, and I've been running Cursorsense with the new radio.
Any ideas?
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i lost data yesterday when running a customized 2.1 rom; flashed cursorsense, asked for data reset, and it comes back.
totally not expecting to be haunted with this after so long since the update.
stgeorge88 said:
i lost data yesterday when running a customized 2.1 rom; flashed cursorsense, asked for data reset, and it comes back.
totally not expecting to be haunted with this after so long since the update.
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I've been asking for refreshes as well, but I can't find anyone who's willing to do it.
I've even told them that I want to use my old phone until they fix the IMEI problem, but they said they can't allow me to use data on any phone until I do the waiver because I might go back to use the Magic.
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... because I might go back to use the Magic.
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LMAO @ rogers...
I am royally pissed about this because Rogers quietly released this after they started redirecting calls. I would have gladly signed this waiver if I knew about it, but instead was forced to update to their retarded ROM and now I'm stuck with all the pre-installed BS apps and without root access. They should at the very least give people the option to revert back to the old ROM via another "update". I was forced into this update because I couldn't afford to spend (scratch that, WASTE) time dealing with redirected calls.
In lighter news, HTC tweeted about their knowledge of specifically the issue with Rogers and promised something about 2.1 soon.
After reading all this I don't feel so bad about all my data issues. After refusing to flash the rom on the phone with rogers, they offered to send me a free magic+ with the new rom pre-installed. I signed the waiver also. So now I have my old magic with a custom rom, and a new one in a box with the rogers official update that I plan to sit on at least until HTC's 2.1 comes out.
On top of that I *****ed them out so hard after my 4th or 5th data loss/refresh experience that they offered me a few free months and reduced the cost of my data plan.
All of that and I was still pissed I didn't take their offer to upgrade to an iphone at a cost, I was too mad and just kept saying "I'm not paying anything to fix this crap" lol. Doh!
It's been 9 days now without data, and each time I talk to someone, I keep getting the same answer "We are aware of your situation and your call has been escalated and it will be fixed soon, try again tomorrow."
I want my data back and have been willing to do the waiver (it won't accept my imei). Have been running cursorsense with the new radio since all this has began.
I've spoken to Tier 2 support, managers and customer care. Who's left to talk to?
QtOn said:
It's been 9 days now without data, and each time I talk to someone, I keep getting the same answer "We are aware of your situation and your call has been escalated and it will be fixed soon, try again tomorrow."
I want my data back and have been willing to do the waiver (it won't accept my imei). Have been running cursorsense with the new radio since all this has began.
I've spoken to Tier 2 support, managers and customer care. Who's left to talk to?
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telus, bell....? Honestly don't take that kind of ****, threaten to leave if they keep f'n you around, and follow through if they don't sort it out. There's no reason to pay for nothing. They give you a free month? So what, you're using them for their service, no service.. whats it matter if its free or not?
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After reading all this I don't feel so bad about all my data issues. After refusing to flash the rom on the phone with rogers, they offered to send me a free magic+ with the new rom pre-installed. I signed the waiver also. So now I have my old magic with a custom rom, and a new one in a box with the rogers official update that I plan to sit on at least until HTC's 2.1 comes out.
On top of that I *****ed them out so hard after my 4th or 5th data loss/refresh experience that they offered me a few free months and reduced the cost of my data plan.
All of that and I was still pissed I didn't take their offer to upgrade to an iphone at a cost, I was too mad and just kept saying "I'm not paying anything to fix this crap" lol. Doh!
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dude, you are now officially my role model.
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telus, bell....? Honestly don't take that kind of ****, threaten to leave if they keep f'n you around, and follow through if they don't sort it out. There's no reason to pay for nothing. They give you a free month? So what, you're using them for their service, no service.. whats it matter if its free or not?
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I was reading this & I remembered a situation I had with Bell regarding my internet contract. I've tried that threaten to leave.. and was expecting to get away with some kind of deal..
then was totally shocked when the csr said, 'sure, so you will owe us the remainder of your term...plus a early cancellation fee'
in the end, it costs more to leave then to just stick around.
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I was reading this & I remembered a situation I had with Bell regarding my internet contract. I've tried that threaten to leave.. and was expecting to get away with some kind of deal..
then was totally shocked when the csr said, 'sure, so you will owe us the remainder of your term...plus a early cancellation fee'
in the end, it costs more to leave then to just stick around.
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The same happened to me the other day, they told me it would cost me over 600 to cancel the account for all 3 of my phones.
Still calling everyday and still waiting.
I would like to know if it is possible to sell this phone, in a working condition to someone else. Or is this phone forever tied to me? I currently have this phone and one on another carrier which is much cheaper and cannot afford the hero ATM
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I would like to know if it is possible to sell this phone, in a working condition to someone else. Or is this phone forever tied to me? I currently have this phone and one on another carrier which is much cheaper and cannot afford the hero ATM
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Did you sign a contract? If so, you should talk to Sprint about that. We aren't contract lawyers.
Well i didnt actually SIGN anything.. haha but yes I am under contract, I have left carriers before while under contract, with no problems though.
But my question remains the same, if the phone IS tied to me, because of contract or other reasons, is there a way to revert it to a new-like state in which someone could purchase and use the phone? This IS a hacking website after all.
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Well i didnt actually SIGN anything.. haha but yes I am under contract, I have left carriers before while under contract, with no problems though.
But my question remains the same, if the phone IS tied to me, because of contract or other reasons, is there a way to revert it to a new-like state in which someone could purchase and use the phone? This IS a hacking website after all.
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Have you rooted it? If so, you should probably RUU unless they actually WANT the rooted phone. Other than that, you should simply need to format the SD card and do a factory wipe of the phone data. That would return the phone to a factory state.
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Well i didnt actually SIGN anything.. haha but yes I am under contract, I have left carriers before while under contract, with no problems though.
But my question remains the same, if the phone IS tied to me, because of contract or other reasons, is there a way to revert it to a new-like state in which someone could purchase and use the phone? This IS a hacking website after all.
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Well, if you have this phone flashed to another carrier, you'll need to get it all setup back to Sprint before someone else can take it over. But chances are as long as you didn't clone the ESN or something illegal. You can sell it off just fine.
Best bet is to call Sprint and have them check the ESN before you sell it. They can look it up and make sure it can be activated. If there is an unpaid bill on the ESN or if it was ever reported stolen, they will not activate it.
The phone is NOT tied to you once you've been released from your account obligation. People sell their CDMA phones all the time. This isn't a problem
okay, But if i sold it and DIDNT tell sprint, and just stopped paying the bill could it still be activated? BTW it is not flashed to use another carrier. But It would nice if i could unlock it to open up the possibilty of an international sale.
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okay, But if i sold it and DIDNT tell sprint, and just stopped paying the bill could it still be activated? BTW it is not flashed to use another carrier. But It would nice if i could unlock it to open up the possibilty of an international sale.
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It can't be sold internationally because USA is the only country with CDMA.
Nope a phone has to have a clean ESN to be put on another account. A bad ESN means phone came from an account which still has a balance or was stolen.
You don't even really have to tell sprint, if you activate another phone on the account and remove the Hero... But something has to be active on the account in its place - They pretty much hold the phone hostage until you have paid them.
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okay, But if i sold it and DIDNT tell sprint, and just stopped paying the bill could it still be activated? BTW it is not flashed to use another carrier. But It would nice if i could unlock it to open up the possibilty of an international sale.
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You can stop paying and sell the phone. Its not a problem. Unless someone reports the phone stolen then it will get a bad ESN number. If you just simply sell it or give it to someone else, it will work perfectly fine.
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You can stop paying and sell the phone. Its not a problem. Unless someone reports the phone stolen then it will get a bad ESN number. If you just simply sell it or give it to someone else, it will work perfectly fine.
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Ummm no. Have you ever registered a phone that came from an account that still had a balance on it? It won't work
Arrgggh so im getting conflicting answers here. Thats okay though. It makes alot of sense that you wouldnt be able to sell your phone until your balance is paid/ different phone switched to same account.
So ill ask this; is there a way to clean/reset your ESN? That would be ideal.
I've also heard the idea of selling the phone for "parts", but that sounds less appealing because im sure nobody is in the market for a "parts" Hero. Unless someone has knowledge of the contrary.
try selling the phone and transferring the account to someone else at the same time, just go with them to a sprint store. I THINK that can be done.
As for changing the ESN you won't find help for that here as it's illegal.
so my friend got a vibrant, and he wanted to file a claim for a lost phone to get one for his brother. as far as I know this is illegal. can you guys give me some examples of things that might happen to him if he goes through with it or some possible consequences? "it's illegal" isn't seeming to convince him.
Insurnce fraud. He would go to jail most likely.
TMobile can track the missing phone using gps and cell towers. They'll see where the phone is and get it for him instead of giving him a new one.
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so my friend got a vibrant, and he wanted to file a claim for a lost phone to get one for his brother. as far as I know this is illegal. can you guys give me some examples of things that might happen to him if he goes through with it or some possible consequences? "it's illegal" isn't seeming to convince him.
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Well your friend is slightly dumb. First of all, the lost phone is blocked for life. Meaning if anyone ever tries to put a sim card in it, and use it, on any network, it won't work. It is permanently blocked from registering onto any network. So basically your friend is going to get 1 refurbished phone in the mail, and his new vibrant will be blacklisted for ever.
Next, if they find out about the fraud, well he can face fraud charges. If he is underage on a family plan, his parents will face fraud charges.
Good luck.
thanks guys!
Its cheaper to buy one from wal-mart than to file a claim (Wal-mart new two year contract is $98.99, asurion charges $130, not to mention you run the risk (more likely than not) you'd get caught.)
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Well your friend is slightly dumb. First of all, the lost phone is blocked for life. Meaning if anyone ever tries to put a sim card in it, and use it, on any network, it won't work. It is permanently blocked from registering onto any network. So basically your friend is going to get 1 refurbished phone in the mail, and his new vibrant will be blacklisted for ever.
Next, if they find out about the fraud, well he can face fraud charges. If he is underage on a family plan, his parents will face fraud charges.
Good luck.
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well i have to say this is a bunch of bs... i havent done this but known people that have and nothing happens to the other phone they work fine and they dont track you down or go on some sort of man hunt lol but if you say you lost your phone it would be best to not use it anymore get another phone and give the one you had to whoever as long as its not on your plan you should be good.
just so you know im not a fan of thieves but i believe in stealing from big companies cause they steal from people everyday so i would say its fair...
You can do whatever you wish. I found my g1 from a club. Used it for 2 years no prob. Its a gsm phone so whatever the case anyone can put a sim card and use it. How you do it as far as claiming to get a new one is your business
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You can do whatever you wish. I found my g1 from a club. Used it for 2 years no prob. Its a gsm phone so whatever the case anyone can put a sim card and use it. How you do it as far as claiming to get a new one is your business
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lucky guy... i need to start going to clubs to look for phones lol
They will not blacklist it and they will not track it down.lol
Insurance don't deal with the phone company. You can claim online without ever speaking to anyone .
Also they do blacklist the sim but a new sim will work, this isn't cdma where ya need to call the phone company to activate a new bought phone, just put in your sim...
Hell who says ya can't lose it, then find it a week later, what you supposed to do send it back?
You pay the 130 you got 2 phones that work. My wife just lost her tp2 and we asked if whoever found it can just put on a new card and its now there phone, dude said yup, we can stop the sim but the phone is gone....
gonintendo said:
can you guys give me some examples of things that might happen to him if he goes through with it or some possible consequences? "it's illegal" isn't seeming to convince him.
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Well, tell your friend that when he dies god is going to know he did it and will definitely be really pissed off and condemn him to spend all eternity in Pittsburgh with an incurable case of crabs on his nuts.
Seriously though, tell your friend to stop being shady and just man up and buy another phone if he wants it.
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They will not blacklist it and they will not track it down.lol
Insurance don't deal with the phone company. You can claim online without ever speaking to anyone .
Also they do blacklist the sim but a new sim will work, this isn't cdma where ya need to call the phone company to activate a new bought phone, just put in your sim...
Hell who says ya can't lose it, then find it a week later, what you supposed to do send it back?
You pay the 130 you got 2 phones that work. My wife just lost her tp2 and we asked if whoever found it can just put on a new card and its now there phone, dude said yup, we can stop the sim but the phone is gone....
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actually you can say you still have your sim but not the phone and they will be like ok? and you get to keep your sim still lol
T-Mobile can and most likely will block the IMEI number from being able to register on the network. They've done it multiple times for my sister when she has had the phone stolen or lost. They can insert another SIM card all they want and it won't work. It might work on AT&T, I don't know if the companies share blacklisted IMEI numbers.
Most likely, they would not go through the process of prosecuting a fraud case on something like this because the cost of the lawyers and other legal fees outweigh the cost of just paying the claim but you never know.
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T-Mobile can and most likely will block the IMEI number from being able to register on the network. They've done it multiple times for my sister when she has had the phone stolen or lost. They can insert another SIM card all they want and it won't work. It might work on AT&T, I don't know if the companies share blacklisted IMEI numbers.
Most likely, they would not go through the process of prosecuting a fraud case on something like this because the cost of the lawyers and other legal fees outweigh the cost of just paying the claim but you never know.
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No they don't black list IMEIs.
Well your "friend" meaning you is a complete moron and hopefully you get caught. People like you are the reason insurance deductibles are so expensive.
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well i have to say this is a bunch of bs... i havent done this but known people that have and nothing happens to the other phone they work fine and they dont track you down or go on some sort of man hunt lol but if you say you lost your phone it would be best to not use it anymore get another phone and give the one you had to whoever as long as its not on your plan you should be good.
just so you know im not a fan of thieves but i believe in stealing from big companies cause they steal from people everyday so i would say its fair...
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I never said they were going to track you down on a man hunt.
HOWEVER, they do deactivate your lost phone permanently. You can never use it on any network.
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No they don't black list IMEIs.
Well your "friend" meaning you is a complete moron and hopefully you get caught. People like you are the reason insurance deductibles are so expensive.
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for your information, they do blacklist the phone from working. If you file a claim the phone was lost/stolen, the phone will be blacklisted and no longer work when you try to register on a network.
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My wife just lost her tp2 and we asked if whoever found it can just put on a new card and its now there phone, dude said yup, we can stop the sim but the phone is gone....
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holly cow, you have a wife? with the comments you leave on here, I thought you were a 12 yr old.
they don't blacklist the IMEI because whoever finds it still has to have a service provider... its the same way with the iphone... Phone company is gonna get paid, regardless of whoever has the phone. I do think however that they lock the number associated with the simcard to prevent "fraudulent activities" i think its like 30 days i remember reading that at the tmobile website
google tmobile insurance replacement FAQs it lays it all out.
good luck, best to do it with a prepaid card so you don't lock a good number...
not that i would ever condone such behavior
Soooo not true.
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I've been in the cell industry for the last 6 years and can tell you for a fact, with GSM phones they do not blacklist or lock IMEI's. Its not even possible. The only thing they might do is see if you are stupid enough to use the lost phone on your own plan.
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holly cow, you have a wife? with the comments you leave on here, I thought you were a 12 yr old.
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I think I have a fan. Follow me on twitter douche bag...
And I'm the 12 year old sounding one.lol.
Question for htc evo owners with boost mobile here. How is it, are there any problems? Someone is selling a htc evo boost ready for 450 would that be a good deal. Thanks.
Well I believe that cricket's 55 android plan is the best out there . I paid only 270 form my evo and i flashed it for free. All the tools and know how is free and available on line. I would never spen 450 on phone.
I live in NY I don't think there is cricket here i also heard its hard getting your evo to boost so buying it boost ready would be the easy way.
i would find one with a bad esn for 200-250 and figure out how to flash it yourself.
So can you hook a brother up with instructions to flash an evo to boost?
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So can you hook a brother up with instructions to flash an evo to boost?
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I do not believe it needs a "Flashing"
What it needs is an ESN change. You need to change the ESN to one that Boost will accept. Boost will not accept an EVO ID. You also will probably need a donor phone to get an ESN off of to be rather more legal.
The process for changing an android IMEI is not difficult, as I understand it.
Here is a question, do you have boost now?
when it is flashed to another carrier like that...
1. it is stolen
2. it is lost
3. sprint will not support it.
once you get it... there is NO warranty!
so.. I would never pay that much for it.
push it down to $250 or under!
you can do the flashing to other carriers yourself.
or
find a shop that is a boost/cricket/(what ever carrier).. they will do it for free.. because they want your business!!!
good luck.
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when it is flashed to another carrier like that...
1. it is stolen
2. it is lost
3. sprint will not support it.
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1. B.S.
2. B.S.
3 Who cares! you got an HTC warranty, and XDA.
LargePrime said:
I do not believe it needs a "Flashing"
What it needs is an ESN change. You need to change the ESN to one that Boost will accept. Boost will not accept an EVO ID. You also will probably need a donor phone to get an ESN off of to be rather more legal.
The process for changing an android IMEI is not difficult, as I understand it.
Here is a question, do you have boost now?
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No I do not have boost right now. Im planning on getting boost but i didnt know if i should get their phone and then go from there. But if i have to get their phone and take the ESN from it then i will. Do i have to get a certain phone or can i get the cheapest thing they have ?
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when it is flashed to another carrier like that...
1. it is stolen
2. it is lost
3. sprint will not support it.
once you get it... there is NO warranty!
so.. I would never pay that much for it.
push it down to $250 or under!
you can do the flashing to other carriers yourself.
or
find a shop that is a boost/cricket/(what ever carrier).. they will do it for free.. because they want your business!!!
good luck.
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BTW. my phone is not stolen... I paid $250 for this thing, with a new contract. Im done with sprint now. All I want is to get a cheaper plan with the same service -4g
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BTW. my phone is not stolen... I paid $250 for this thing, with a new contract. Im done with sprint now. All I want is to get a cheaper plan with the same service -4g
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of course.. if you purchased it from sprint.... it aint stolen.
I was talking about phones that are for sale that have been flashed to other carriers.
you can sell it for more .. when advertised with sprint.
can buy it cheaper when flashed for other carriers..
2 + 2 = phone was lost or stolen.
let us know.. how the service is on the EVO.. i am sure others would like to know. Many are looking to jump.
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1. B.S.
2. B.S.
3 Who cares! you got an HTC warranty, and XDA.
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ok.. sure..
if the phone ... is a good ESN.. not stolen.. or found EVO.
why not sell it for more as a Sprint ready phone???
EVO's on other carriers .. listed on craigslist .. go for half of what they are on sprint.
if i wanted to sell my EVO. that I purchased from sprint.. and have the reciept. I can get $350 or more... why would I want to sell it for $200 or less?
if Sprint marks the ESN on that phone as a stolen / lost device. I dont think HTC will fix it and then send it back to you. They might even keep the phone for refurbished inventory. This I am not sure of... but I would think it a long shot! Manufactures love any excuse to not provide warranty!
anybody got a guide to how to put an evo on boost? i got a guy that may want my evo next month but he wants it on boost.
http://tinyurl.com/4tqo4vq
Hi guys, I have my evo on Boostmobile. I got the evo from a friend, he sold it to me for 300 brand new never used before. and since I didnt know how to flash it or change the esn I had to pay 60 bucks in a store to get it connect it on boost.
Can someone help me with this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925112
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why not sell it for more as a Sprint ready phone???
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So if something is cheaper it is stolen? So whenever the grocery store has a sale, they just got a shipment of stolen food?
I don't see flashed phones as cheaper. Can you show me that?
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EVO's on other carriers .. listed on craigslist .. go for half of what they are on sprint.
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Lets just assume that is true. (I don't think it is.)
1) no 4g, so slower data.
2) bad ESN. Someone cannot keep up the payments and has to sell the phone to pay bills.
Dan330 said:
if Sprint marks the ESN on that phone as a stolen / lost device. I dont think HTC will fix it and then send it back to you.
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Sure they will. HTC does not know.
Guide for EVO
Dan330 said:
EVO's on other carriers .. listed on craigslist .. go for half of what they are on sprint.
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Could be
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So if something is cheaper it is stolen? So whenever the grocery store has a sale, they just got a shipment of stolen food?
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that is just plain silly analogy...
Something that is not right/stolen/broken/hot has to be discounted!!!
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I don't see flashed phones as cheaper. Can you show me
that?Lets just assume that is true. (I don't think it is.)
1) no 4g, so slower data.
2) bad ESN. Someone cannot keep up the payments and has to sell the phone to pay bills.Sure they will. HTC does not know.
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Good ESN:
http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/mob/2176503432.html
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/mob/2175143480.html
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/mob/2175138918.html
ESN issues: (billing issues... sure.. does sound better than stolen; do you think anyone will say it was stolen???) but here are examples. I bet you these sellers, are willing to deal.. drop the price to $150 -$175.
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/mob/2175763022.html
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/mob/2175899036.html
on the htc fixing "bad ESN" phones... like I said.. I just dont know.. never tried. But I would not bet $200 on it.
This is entirely OFF TOPIC
Your trying to prove a prejudice.
I already said that The ESN's are bad so you cannot get 4g. big discount in a 4g area.
It is just as reasonable that people in economic hardship are looking to sell things cheaper and faster. They are in a weaker position.
Selling a stolen phone on craigslist is asking to get busted.
On Topic...
Did the guide work for you OP
flashing evo to boost
does anyone know how to flash an evo to boost? i would really apreciated if anyone can guide me or teach me how to do this. please, please!
Okay so basically this is a question of what to do with a S4 that was shipped to my business. We received a S4 through fedex about a month ago that an old employee was suppose to receive at their home(now living out of state). We have had the phone for a month now and have asked fedex to take the phone back b/c they were suppose to pick it up and they always say they can not take it back without being told to do so by main office. The old employee did receive the phone he was suppose after calling at&t and telling them they sent the phone to the wrong address. Again this all happened a month ago and we now still have the phone. I was wondering how long(if there is a time length) before at&t forgets about the phone. Are we able to take the phone and use it as our own at this point.
What firmware does it have? I'd factory reset my old s4 and put my sim in the new one, given that it had anything older than MF3 installed...
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What firmware does it have? I'd factory reset my old s4 and put my sim in the new one, given that it had anything older than MF3 installed...
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I am not sure what firmware, it is at the office at the moment.
It has yet to be activated assuming it's new. Did you have to physically sign for the package from FedEx?
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It has yet to be activated assuming it's new. Did you have to physically sign for the package from FedEx?
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Well it is refurbished. It was sent with a new sim card as well. Yes, it was signed for by someone in the office.
Hmm.. If the owner hasn't made a big deal about it in 30 days, I'm sure there is a time period coming up that would leave you free to do what you like with the device. Maybe 90 days? You'll have to check with your local laws to be sure.
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Hmm.. If the owner hasn't made a big deal about it in 30 days, I'm sure there is a time period coming up that would leave you free to do what you like with the device. Maybe 90 days? You'll have to check with your local laws to be sure.
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Well the owner had called at&t to tell them the phone was shipped to the wrong address and they overnighted him another one. At that point they said fedex would pickup the one sent to us(again this was a month ago). Another worker does already have an S4 and we put his sim in it yesterday and it worked.
I'd sell it. I'm sure the IMEI is on file somewhere with AT&T. You'll probably be fine with using it, but to be sure you could sell it and get a Nexus 5
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I'd sell it. I'm sure the IMEI is on file somewhere with AT&T. You'll probably be fine with using it, but to be sure you could sell it and get a Nexus 5
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Yes, I do not want to sell it though and then have at&t charge him for it once they see it being used in their system.
Have you called AT&T about it?
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Have you called AT&T about it?
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No, I was thinking of bringing it to the store and seeing what they say about it.
you're going to have to have the original buyer of this phone call customer care.
since it sounds as if it was purchased by a business acct or online, the store will not help.
business customer care, online sales, and store sales are separate.
Russ77 said:
you're going to have to have the original buyer of this phone call customer care.
since it sounds as if it was purchased by a business acct or online, the store will not help.
business customer care, online sales, and store sales are separate.
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No, it was not a business account that it was purchased under. It was done over the phone i believe when he did do it. but he already did contact att and all they told him was that fedex would pick up the phone(this was November 20th).
wkw89 said:
No, it was not a business account that it was purchased under. It was done over the phone i believe when he did do it. but he already did contact att and all they told him was that fedex would pick up the phone(this was November 20th).
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I had a similar situation with a company I worked for a few years back. I was the receiver and FedEx delivered a phone mistakenly to our business. The next day the FedEx driver was told about it, but said he couldn't take it back without approval. I called FedEx no less than 6 or 7 times about it until they finally told me just to keep it, they didn't want to deal with it. I thought about taking it home but had a funny feeling about it so I left it at work. About 3 weeks later, the FedEx driver asks me about it and tells me he is supposed to pick it up. I'm not sure if FedEx was finally told to return it or if the driver was tired of hearing about it and figured he would keep it for himself. I really didn't care. The point is that it isn't worth it. Call FedEx and make them take it back. Make sure you document it when they do. If someone starts asking questions about it, it is on them and not you.
scott14719 said:
I had a similar situation with a company I worked for a few years back. I was the receiver and FedEx delivered a phone mistakenly to our business. The next day the FedEx driver was told about it, but said he couldn't take it back without approval. I called FedEx no less than 6 or 7 times about it until they finally told me just to keep it, they didn't want to deal with it. I thought about taking it home but had a funny feeling about it so I left it at work. About 3 weeks later, the FedEx driver asks me about it and tells me he is supposed to pick it up. I'm not sure if FedEx was finally told to return it or if the driver was tired of hearing about it and figured he would keep it for himself. I really didn't care. The point is that it isn't worth it. Call FedEx and make them take it back. Make sure you document it when they do. If someone starts asking questions about it, it is on them and not you.
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Thank you for your input, that is actually why I did leave it at work. We did tell the driver about it probably 5 or 6 times over 4 weeks. I was actually not the one who signed for it but both the person it was suppose to go to and the person who signed for it do not care what is done with the phone so that is why I am on here asking about this situation. Thanks again.
At&t will eventually lock the imei due to lost/stolen phone. I wouldn't keep it as my own. Some states have low felony dollar amounts on theft. They can trace these phones and lock them down. I actually have this hunk of crap because I bought a wonderful tmobile s4 from a second hand store in austin. Worked great for 3 months. Unlocked bootloader and all the custom roms I could flash. Then one day the Internet stops. Call tmo and they say it's locked down due to non payment. I explained how I purchased the phone and they could care less. It was an expensive media player at that point. Thankfully, the store I purchased it at took it back and gave me this pos. I complain, I'm actually lucky as the Internet is filled with horror stories of buying from an individual and losing their phone and money. Anyway, don't be an ass. Give the phone back or throw it in the trash. Or, you could burn it in effigy in front of your local at&t store. Happy holidays.
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Thank you for your input, that is actually why I did leave it at work. We did tell the driver about it probably 5 or 6 times over 4 weeks. I was actually not the one who signed for it but both the person it was suppose to go to and the person who signed for it do not care what is done with the phone so that is why I am on here asking about this situation. Thanks again.
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I am also wondering if I were to use it on my at&t account(currently using XT860) would I be seen as stealing it or anything to that effect by at&t.
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At&t will eventually lock the imei due to lost/stolen phone. I wouldn't keep it as my own. Some states have low felony dollar amounts on theft. They can trace these phones and lock them down. I actually have this hunk of crap because I bought a wonderful tmobile s4 from a second hand store in austin. Worked great for 3 months. Unlocked bootloader and all the custom roms I could flash. Then one day the Internet stops. Call tmo and they say it's locked down due to non payment. I explained how I purchased the phone and they could care less. It was an expensive media player at that point. Thankfully, the store I purchased it at took it back and gave me this pos. I complain, I'm actually lucky as the Internet is filled with horror stories of buying from an individual and losing their phone and money. Anyway, don't be an ass. Give the phone back or throw it in the trash. Or, you could burn it in effigy in front of your local at&t store. Happy holidays.
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I figured as much. It is just going to sit in the filing cabinet for now then.