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This may be a silly question, but if I were willing to forgo the benefits of the Sense UI, would it be possible to root my HTC Hero and install the stock Android operating system?
I would imagine that would enable me to upgrade the phone to the latest version of the OS without having to wait for HTC to update the Sense version?
there is (at least one!) a thread in the devs section about this.
Possibly not so. If you do succeed in having a virgin Android os on the hero, updates are posted over the air and your provider will not post to yours as you have a hero. I would also think that the flat file update would have to be modified as well.
The reports I've read online suggest the Legend doesn't ship with Flash Lite support as the Hero does. Also Adobe have said you need a snapdragon cpu or higher to get Flash 10.1 support.
Does this leave the Legend with no flash ?
The post be Adobe....
Hi all,
You can expect the final release for Android to be available mid-year. All Android devices that meet our minimum s/w and h/w requirements will be supported. Unfortunately, I cannot say a lot more publicly about our port to the Android platform at this time.
As for WinMo, we have made the tough decision to defer support for that platform until WinMo7. This is due to the fact that WinMo6.5 does not support some of the critical APIs that we need.
As for your other questions:
* Yes, we will support the Motorola Milestone.
* No, the HTC Hero will not be supported b/c it does not have the correct Anroid OS version and it’s chipset is not powerful enough. We require a device with an ARM v7 (Cortex) processor. Examples include the Qualcomm Snapdragon chipsets and TI OMAP3 series.
Best regards,
Antonio
i have this question too but i can't get an answer anywhere
well the pre-release one i saw could not play bbc iplayer programs (it crashed the browser) but it just about managed to play youtube, although quite slow and jerky.
It seems to have flash lite at the moment, but this was a pre-release device which didn't even have Sense on it yet.....
all the early reviews I've read said it does have flash and it works:
http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/0,39030107,49305224,00.htm?s_cid=82
http://gizmodo.com/5488019/htc-legend-review-frankly-it-feels-expensive
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-legend-review-0876928/
well playing "Restaurant City" (Facebook Flash Games) works - very slow but working...
Hi all,
Just thought I'd bump this as I haven't found a definitive answer just yet [please provide the necessary link if I have missed it!].
1] I presume Flash Lite is shipped & working with the Legend...?
2] Any news on 'full fat' Flash 10.1 support? As per OP, Adobe suggest a snapdragon processor is required, is this still the case? Will we ever see Flash 10.1 on the Legend?
Thanks in advance
Yup it comes with flash lite.
No news on Flash 10.1 for the Legend.
the legend must have flash lite flash works but it seems to be completely cpu based which leads to performance problems.
im surprised they would say that 10.1 needs snap dragon. the desktop flash10.1 added GPU acceleration i was under the impression that android 10.1 would bring the same which had a huge potential to increase flash performance making it close to if not perfect
also flash 10.1 will be in FroYo (2.2) chances are htc will update to 2.2 (least i hope) so we should get it anyway if not then custom rom it up!
hi guys, I am trying to port flash lite into LG optimus one. since the htc legend and Optimus one has the same processor and OS, it might be possible to just dump in the files into system\app and system\lib. So can someone extract the flash related files from these 2 folders?
wizagg said:
hi guys, I am trying to port flash lite into LG optimus one. since the htc legend and Optimus one has the same processor and OS, it might be possible to just dump in the files into system\app and system\lib. So can someone extract the flash related files from these 2 folders?
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Nice bump
Just download one of the Froyo ROMs in the Development section + dsixda's kitchen (check Chef Central -> Android) and extract all files you need.
thanks for the info.
Hi,
Just wondering what the differences are. I'm thinking of getting the Liquid E from Rogers, but want to make sure that it's rootable.
As far as I know the only differences are:
Acer Liquid: Android 1.6; 256MB RAM
Acer Liquid e: Android 2.1; 512MB RAM
Is that it? Is the Liquid e rootable yet?
Thanks,
Rick
a2000rick said:
Hi,
Just wondering what the differences are. I'm thinking of getting the Liquid E from Rogers, but want to make sure that it's rootable.
As far as I know the only differences are:
Acer Liquid: Android 1.6; 256MB RAM
Acer Liquid e: Android 2.1; 512MB RAM
Is that it? Is the Liquid e rootable yet?
Thanks,
Rick
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You can root it using the latest malez liquid recovery 5.3 .
The Acer Liquid A1 can easily be upgraded to run Eclair 2.1 just like Liquid E. It probably costs lesss than Liquid E. But the 256 MB RAM is the only real difference.
just got the liquid e and even without root I am very satisfied with this phone
does not feel like Im going to break it like the x10 does and also comes with 2.1 loaded with LWP that run very nice and many other goodies will post a dump soon
I am hard to impress and the Liquid E impresses me alot - the 512mb ram is noticeable when I have 390mb free..... lol
I'm about to get the Liquid E. I hope I'm as impressed as you are. Is root not available yet? Is the bootloader encrypted?
root should be available just like the liquid A1 running the E ROM, which I have and rooted. Only diff is the E gets 256MB more RAM.
so can you please let me know a little about the root process
does it over-write the current system image? or does it just root the phone and add custom recovery similiar to magic/dream, leaving the current build in-tact
root process as currently posted does not work - spl is perfect and will not allow commands to be run like that... that would make it to easy ;P
So I guess we're stuck with what Acer gives us for the E then ... too bad. That's what I miss most about my HTC Dream; Cyanogenmod. I tried the Nexus One, and didn't think it was worth $650. The Liquid E is very similar and way cheaper. Hopefully some new phones will come out in the next 6 months with root access.
I believe there are 2 main rooting methods. One is to install malez recovery and then it has a menu for rooting. The other is with superboot. I used malez recovery method on my A1. liquid.modaco.com has sticky links on these methods.
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I believe there are 2 main rooting methods. One is to install malez recovery and then it has a menu for rooting. The other is with superboot. I used malez recovery method on my A1. liquid.modaco.com has sticky links on these methods.
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That only works on the Liquid and not on the Liquid E right? Has anyone tried to root and install a custom rom on the Liquid E?
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That only works on the Liquid and not on the Liquid E right? Has anyone tried to root and install a custom rom on the Liquid E?
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Hey I just flashed a custom recovery on my Rogers Liquid E following instructions on the Modaco forums. I also installed the Community ROM and it just worked perfectly. The phone is just as fast as my Nexus One now, whereas before, it is as slow as my Sony Ericsson x10 (yuck).
lifeflayer said:
Hey I just flashed a custom recovery on my Rogers Liquid E following instructions on the Modaco forums. I also installed the Community ROM and it just worked perfectly. The phone is just as fast as my Nexus One now, whereas before, it is as slow as my Sony Ericsson x10 (yuck).
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Aside from speed how does it stack up against the x10?
lifeflayer said:
Hey I just flashed a custom recovery on my Rogers Liquid E following instructions on the Modaco forums. I also installed the Community ROM and it just worked perfectly. The phone is just as fast as my Nexus One now, whereas before, it is as slow as my Sony Ericsson x10 (yuck).
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My Liquid E seems to be pretty fast already. My only complaint is that it drains the battery quickly. from 100%-15% 9AM-5PM. Maybe I had it on in my pocket accidentally. The LED lights don't work on the community rom still though right?
Also, why do you have 3 phones?
LED lights work on Community Rom for regular Liquid. Should for E.
Sent from my Liquid using Tapatalk
lifeflayer said:
Hey I just flashed a custom recovery on my Rogers Liquid E following instructions on the Modaco forums. I also installed the Community ROM and it just worked perfectly. The phone is just as fast as my Nexus One now, whereas before, it is as slow as my Sony Ericsson x10 (yuck).
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I am not currently able to do so
How did you manage this? when I try and use adb to reboot into recovery it fails and i am still retyring the manual method as well
Acer Liquid vs Acer Liquid E (Rogers)
Another key difference between the two should be
1. The Liquid runs on the UMTS 900/ 1900/2100 data bands.
2. The Liquid E from Rogers should run on the UMTS 850/1900 bands.
Can someone who has purchased the Acer from Rogers please confirm that.
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Another key difference between the two should be
1. The Liquid runs on the UMTS 900/ 1900/2100 data bands.
2. The Liquid E from Rogers should run on the UMTS 850/1900 bands.
Can someone who has purchased the Acer from Rogers please confirm that.
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850/1900/2100
so korea/japan compatible
was able to achieve root
the windows drivers did not work at all on my win7 64bit - i used ubuntu and stopped the adb server and then as root user started the server and was able to detect and flash the phone with custom recovery for root
the old button method did not seem to work so using adb reboot bootloader is required to get the phone rooted
If anyone could post a dump of the rogers stock rom - would appreciate it - as I lost mine trying to root ;o
I have the Acer Liquid E and it has 440MB available, more than the Nexus One. It's a pretty good phone despite its looks.
I'm working if you have a hardware problem alan, but I am not about to flash my Liquid to try.
You could fastboot erase all your partitions and ask for an exchange
I am trying to get the north american update package through acer support
I had to ask them if they were retarded to acknowledge my request and FINALLY am escalated to tier 2
hope to have something soon
Is it possible to jailbreak a ps3 with a i5800? I've been googling and couldn't find a definitive answer.
Nope, I don't think that will be ever possible on our phone.
It's not very popular like a Spica, or Magic. And that makes developers to create PSF to it
But first we need modded kernel, for that we must have official 2.2, because Samsung will share kernel files. Maybe some genius will buy that phone, and port PSFreedom
I read couples of threads and realize that if a CM mod is wanted, MS2 must have its bootloader unlock.
Since most work is done in /system partition, why do a bootloader modify is needed?
According to the update.zip, we can modify /system partition already, so why do we need bootloader unlock?
CyanogenMod needs its own kernel.
I guess that, since cyanogen is based on gingerbread now,
it runs with a more up-to-date kernel than the milestone's.
The locked bootloader and the efuse thing prevents updating the kernel.
It's possible that someone, using Cyanogen source, makes a backport running on our kernel, but I think it's a huge work...
However, the clever guys from freemymoto.com have created a hack that is capable of launching an other kernel after the legit one starts.
If salvation comes (Cyanogen alleluia ), it will certainly come from this project.
Actually, the hack works on DroidX, and Droid2. So it is 99.9% sure that with some work, it may run on milestone 2 as well.
So, to get Cyanogen work on MM2, we need :
- A very good developer, with android (of course !), linux kernel and kinit knowledge, able to port freemymoto's hack, and Cyanogen
- Hardware drivers for the Milestone (bluetooth, lan, gsm, 3g, touchscreen...)
If we find the golden dev, I personnally think that CyanogenMod could be out for milestone2 sooner than what most people think...
momus87 said:
CyanogenMod needs its own kernel.
I guess that, since cyanogen is based on gingerbread now,
it runs with a more up-to-date kernel than the milestone's.
The locked bootloader and the efuse thing prevents updating the kernel.
It's possible that someone, using Cyanogen source, makes a backport running on our kernel, but I think it's a huge work...
However, the clever guys from freemymoto.com have created a hack that is capable of launching an other kernel after the legit one starts.
If salvation comes (Cyanogen alleluia ), it will certainly come from this project.
Actually, the hack works on DroidX, and Droid2. So it is 99.9% sure that with some work, it may run on milestone 2 as well.
So, to get Cyanogen work on MM2, we need :
- A very good developer, with android (of course !), linux kernel and kinit knowledge, able to port freemymoto's hack, and Cyanogen
- Hardware drivers for the Milestone (bluetooth, lan, gsm, 3g, touchscreen...)
If we find the golden dev, I personnally think that CyanogenMod could be out for milestone2 sooner than what most people think...
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I LOVE YOUR REPLY!
Well, this is the first reply to me in this forum.Ya...nobody reply me before...so bad..
Milestone has also a locked bootloader, but a CM7 port running on it. That is what makes me want to do something on my MS2.
I'm a C++ programmer, so I learn everything about this these days.
Thank you, really.
And I think I'd read all the freemymoto.com site RIGHT NOW~~
Well, if you think you can be the golden dev, you just made my day...
If you try this, I (and almost everybody here) will at least help providing the hardware drivers.
But the first step is to make the hack work on MM2...
Edit : For the milestone1, the bootloader security has been compromised using a leaked unofficial rom build,
which lead to custom kernels, without needing a hack like freemymoto's.
In fact, freemymoto's hack is based on a milestone1 project, which was abandoned after the rom leak.
It circumvents both bootloader lock and efuse by starting a second kernel after the first one.
(What I couldn't figure out is what happens of the first one... Still in memory? Still using some ressources?)
I read the site yesterday, however sadly, I don't have any experience about writing drivers of cell phone.
So I just sent a e-mail to them to ask if I can provide any help and what to do.
Hope I can help. I'll try my best.
For about the second kernel...I guess I have to read source to know what happened to them...
Anyway, thank you for your reply. At least I get a way to help^^
I didn't mean that we will have to write the drivers from scratch. But we will have to find them.
Hopefully, most of them are open-source. Wifi/bluetooth per example, is handled by a wl1271 chip. Drivers are available on texas instruments website...
You should get in touch with Pizzaroll, who is also trying to make the hack work on milestone2
It's really good news that there maybe a hack bootloader, i like my mm2 but it is really a pity that no much ROM.
liuyanghejerry...
Polish team try to broke bootloader with Boinc (many computers calculate 1 thing), maybe You and Yours friends can join to project?
In China lives maaaaany peoples, this can be speed up calculations
I don't think that distributed computing is the solution...
Even if the boinc project lets us find the signing key, we will have to do the same for the efuse thing.
The freemymoto's hack is a solution to circumvent both of these protections, and doesn't need any computing.
We only need someone to modify some parts of the code to make it work on Milestone2.
Tomszyn said:
liuyanghejerry...
Polish team try to broke bootloader with Boinc (many computers calculate 1 thing), maybe You and Yours friends can join to project?
In China lives maaaaany peoples, this can be speed up calculations
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Currently I'm studying kexec method now, thanks to PizzaRoll and momus87's help^^
Well, in fact, I like to program and burn my brain. However, the Boinc method seems not really interesting...
Well Boinc is the best solution if you want to use bruteforce.
But even with a whole army of core i7, bruteforcing a 1024bits key is unthinkable actually...
Is this eFuse thing harder to break than the one used in iPhone? If it is then Mr Jobs should adopt a similar approach.