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I need alternatives! Or I will very soon be launching this POS out of a top story window or stamping on it.
The keyboard is completely blinking useless.
The keys are too close together.
The auto spell is absolutely awful and doesn't learn.
it doesn't put a capital at the beginning of new sentences.
You also can't type at any speed since if you don't lift your finger directly upwards after selecting a letter, the drag motion across will select the letter to it's side. It so frustrating I don't want to use the phone for anything involving text input. Period.
I had an 3G before, which with a smaller & lower res screen manages to excel at text input. How have HTC managed to completely screwed this most basic and important feature up?!
Are there any other keyboards one can install over this [email protected]? Oh, and before someone mentions anything about installing the reduced sensitivity .cab - I have. I have been using it for a week and it's still an unusable POS!
I love the phone but I cannot live with this any longer. If no proper solutions are available then it's going back, just hopefully before it's in tiny bits!
I hear you man lol lol lol.
I cringe when I hear an incoming text message alert.....because it means I have to deal with typing a reply.....and then having to correct every single word I type. It's sooo tedious and I came from another touch-screen phone, so it isn't like I don't know what I'm doing.
Its odd, the same keyboard is fine on the HD, but not on the HD2. I use the phone pad option with xT9 on, it works really well for me
The problem with the HD2 keyboard is that it takes the last key you touched not the first on. So if you you press on A and moved to L without removing your finger, it will take L. This is really weird...because most of the time after pressing on the key you want while removing your finger you accidentally touch another one due to the limited space available between keys...
Try Touchpal, works with great accuracy and learns as you type new words. They have also emailed me to say that they will be updating software for phones with bigger screens such as the HD2.
You can try before you buy, just do a search on google. If you do buy the software, make a request as the more requests they get, the sooner they will probably make an updated release.
Also as a side note, I don't think the original keyboard is as bad as you have described as I seem to be able to use it fairly accurately though I do agree they could have done a better job.
personally I use touchpal, but you might like resco keyboard, it has much more spacing.
I have to totally agree with you. I have went this year from an Iphone 3G, to a hero, now to an HD2, and the text input is way way worse on the HD2. I find the blooming delete key is the worst offender, seems to type m or n, or for that matter any other letter, really annoying. I have also aligned the screen, many many times, and installed the .cab mentioned earlier, not better. .I Love the hardware, but hate the software, so debating putting it on flebay and buying a 3GS, or even a Milestone (Droid), but am reluctant to do so in case it gets fixed. I emphasise also with the previous post, it has got to the point now, that if I need to reply to an email, and it will be more that a few words, if I am at home I will boot up my laptop to reply to the email, just so I dont end up throwing the HD2 out the window in frustration.
It's a fact. I miss my 3Gs keyboard. Although it was smaller, it was more precise and fast... and the "xT9" of it, worked way better as well. It seemed like I reads our mind
HastaSSSS
I've just downloaded the Resco keyboard and it seems much better....still not perfect but I think that's down to the sensitivity of the HD2 screen.
Does anyone know how to turn off the annoying Resco click every time I use to keyboard?
I'm not alone then!
Seriously, if nothing's done soon i'll end up being arrested for muttering profanities and expletives in public like a loony tune! I'll file another remark with HTC along with the dodgy camera (pink spot) complaint I made last week. Which, considering their insistence that it is a software problem, they are taking a long time to resolve!
Thanks for the heads up on the alternatives on the keyboards...I will give one of them a pop and if that doesn't work then i'll have to just get the quill and blotching paper out...i'd rather that than going back to an iPhone and there's nothing else out there that's even interesting, phone wise. (Droid's naff)
Cheers!
You might want to try Shapewriter, takes a little getting used to but it's been easier for me to use than any of the keyboards I've tried...
http://www.shapewriter.com/software.html
I agree the 3G/3Gs keyboard are more clever but that's only a software thing. It can be corrected on the HD2 but the question is will they?!
It was quite ironic that I was having the same problems as you all have but when I loaded CoPilot and used its own keyboard the accuracy was near the iphone standard! Makes me realise HTC are too blame for the in-accuracy and hope they correct it soon....
Sometimes trying to be different isn't always the best idea especially when Apple have at least got the keyboard right. Create something like CoPilot or the iPhone keyboard and we're all happy again.
s1rl4ncel0t said:
It's a fact. I miss my 3Gs keyboard. Although it was smaller, it was more precise and fast... and the "xT9" of it, worked way better as well. It seemed like I reads our mind
HastaSSSS
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Nothing wrong with it. I came from an iPhone and as such it took me some time to get used to the HD2's but I got there in the end. I still can't compose an email or text message as fast as I could on the iPhone but some people go on about the HD2's as if it's totally unusable which is frankly a pile of s**te. The key is not to rush.
I also dreaded the TXT alert.. I updated to a 148 rom using the sticky guide.. The HD2 has just earnt a stay of execution. Many times better than before, still not up to the iPhone standard, but then i doubt we will ever see this happen.
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I also dreaded the TXT alert.. I updated to a 148 rom using the sticky guide.. The HD2 has just earnt a stay of execution. Many times better than before, still not up to the iPhone standard, but then i doubt we will ever see this happen.
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I don't see why you think that, there is no reason the HD2 can't have a keyboard identical in use to the iPhone.
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Nothing wrong with it. I came from an iPhone and as such it took me some time to get used to the HD2's but I got there in the end. I still can't compose an email or text message as fast as I could on the iPhone but some people go on about the HD2's as if it's totally unusable which is frankly a pile of s**te. The key is not to rush.
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No, the keyboard is a pile of sh!te and you are definitely in the minority- the point is too build a keyboard on which that you can type quickly, accurately, precisely and without stress. Not one that you have to concentrate on every single keystroke on, and woe betide you if you have to use the dreaded delete key...mmmnlllllllnmmmmmmllll.
But hey, at least HTC have given us a big space bar and HUGE forward, up, down & backwards keys....phew, what would we do without them?!
Got my phone this morning and at first did struggle with the keyboard, but after a few hours I have absolutely no problems with it, typing's absolutely fine. I get the odd press wrong while navigating but I'm on target most of the time.
I agree, there is no reason why HTC can't improve the keyboard software and make it more accurate. If Apple can do it, HTC certainly can.....
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I don't see why you think that, there is no reason the HD2 can't have a keyboard identical in use to the iPhone.
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No, the keyboard is a pile of sh!te and you are definitely in the minority- the point is too build a keyboard on which that you can type quickly, accurately, precisely and without stress. Not one that you have to concentrate on every single keystroke on, and woe betide you if you have to use the dreaded delete key...mmmnlllllllnmmmmmmllll.
But hey, at least HTC have given us a big space bar and HUGE forward, up, down & backwards keys....phew, what would we do without them?!
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At the beginning of the thread, you asked for alternatives. Have you tried any of the suggestions people have made?
If none of those suit, you may be better off going back to the iPhone (where, you're right, the keyboard is great).
But I'm not sure I've ever seen an adult get so upset about something that's really not that bad, and certainly not worth getting that stressed over.
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At the beginning of the thread, you asked for alternatives. Have you tried any of the suggestions people have made?
If none of those suit, you may be better off going back to the iPhone (where, you're right, the keyboard is great).
But I'm not sure I've ever seen an adult get so upset about something that's really not that bad, and certainly not worth getting that stressed over.
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Yes well greatcapp, irony, SOH's, sarcasm, exagerations and frustrations don't translate well over forums! I'm pretty chilled now, since I haven't had to use the phone to a while
I have to disagree with you strongly - it IS that bad, and i'm pro WM and anti iPhone. I'm not bashing it to have a laugh, i'm bashing it because I want something done about it by HTC. If everyone just rolled over every time technology went backwards saying 'it's not that bad' and 'you get used to it' then we'd all end up back with a coke can and a bit of string!
HTC have had a VERY long time to get this right, Apple showed the industry the light and even HTC have managed much better keyboards with previous versions of their phones. This one needs some fuss kicked up about it to spur them into action.
It won't take much, just a million small tweaks here and there and this phone will be perfect
ps. I will have a go at one of the keyboard versions later, hope there's trails- I really don't want to waste any more money on software.
This is not a "vs." thread as you are used to reading...this is merely my observations since I have owned and used both devices to their fullest extent. I wanted to share these with you guys (as well as blackberryforums.com) to see what you all thought. I get a ton of email each day, a fair amount of texts and use the high side of 5k mins/month. One of the ways that I have always set myself apart is my response times. I am VP of Sales for a small wireless integration firm and used to work for Sprint and Nextel on the data side. My first smartphone was a Blackberry 7510 in 2004. I had access to every device that Nextel and Sprint had and tried 95% of them. I always went back to Blackberry.
In July of this year, my CEO gave me an EVO and I wanted to give it a fair shot. I went into with the same mentality as always - that I would be back to Blackberry in a few days. I was wrong. I immediately began reading XDA-developers on how to root the device and after that, it snowballed. I was CONSTANTLY trying to find new ways to enhance the battery life and customize my device to my liking. I played around with many different ROMS and kernels (CM6, Baked Snack, Myn and a couple others) and had found Myn's Warm 2.2 RLS4 with Netarchy 2.1.1 CFS smartass kernel to be the best fit for me. That said, I blew through batteries each day unless I was in my home office had to carry an extra one every where I went. On Friday (12/24), I saw a post on Twitter about OS 6.0 for the 9650 and decided to give it a shot. Here is my comparison based on my usage of both devices.
Screen:
Blackberry: ample size for email and texting. Marginal for video like youtube.
EVO: Gorgeous clarity and perfect for watching videos and looking at pictures.
Battery:
Blackberry: stellar battery life....not only does it hold a charge well it doesn't take long to charge. I carry an extra battery in my bag but I can barely ever remember using it.
EVO: Terrible. I have seen so many posts about how folks are getting x hours of standby or sleep or whatever..point is, it comes down to how long the battery lasts as I use the device. I found myself checking percentage drain after leaving the device on all night after every change I made (kernel, ROM, etc.)....it became rather time consuming if you think about it. Everyone always says, "yeah, but it does so much more?" Well, I got tired of worrying what my battery life was going to do when I turned GPS on to use Navigation. You would have thought that the folks that manufactured these devices would have added a little extra juice.
Size:
Blackberry: nice design...good fit in my hand but keyboard is just a tad small (I wear a XXL golf glove).
EVO: large 4.3" screen great for media but a little big to carry around daily. Until the EVO I was a BB holster guy. Having the EVO on my hip felt like a small TV on my belt. I lost that clip quickly and will never carry ANY device on my hip again.
Keyboard:
Blackberry: quite simply, it is perfect. No device can touch a Blackberry keyboard, IMO. Even other Android devices with sliders are no comparison.
EVO: This was my first time using a touchscreen device for any length of time. I didnt care for stock, tried Swype (eh) and decided that SwiftKey was the best choice for me. I got used to touchscreen with no problem and while I wasnt as fast as I was on my BB, it worked fine.
Email:
Blackberry: again, cosmetics aside, email is great. With Blackberry and BES, you know what you are getting. There is no manual sync just to be sure that all email is there. One downside is the lack of mirrored sync. On activesync, you can delete an email in your inbox and it wont show up anymore on your device. Not so with Blackberry (unless this is a new feature in 6.0). I like how easy it is to reply (letter r), reply all (letter l) and forward (letter f) emails with Blackberry. Attachments are handled ok.
EVO: My company is on Exchange 2003 so no HTML email on the stock android mail app. I bought the Touchdown app and it was just ok. While I liked the HTML email via Touchdown it used a little more battery than the stock app. I like the fact that everything is mirrored (replica of inbox). On more than one occasion I noticed that email would sync only after getting into my inbox. Functionality seemed fine 95% of the time....but not 100%. Another small irritant of mine in Android is the fact that the cc field isn't in view automatically. You actually have to hit a button to put the cc field in and then add your address.
Messaging:
Blackberry: Blackberry messenger is awesome, no doubt. Problem is you are limited to those that use it. Texting on the Blackberry is fine also. In fact, I like it as much as Android because it acts just like the email app.
EVO: Until the EVO, I had very limited interaction with texting. Literally, 90% of anyone I communicated with was on BBM. I tried the stock app, Handcent and then finally ended up with ChompSMS. Texting vs. texting it's a wash on both devices.
Browsing:
Blackberry: browsing has gotten a bit better with 6.0 but it doesn't compare to the EVO. It gets the job done but it's just ok.
EVO: I love browsing the web on the EVO. I like the auto text resize capabilities of the stock browser and the overall experience is much better.
Calendar
Blackberry: Never had an issue with the calendar on a Blackberry.
EVO: I can count 8-10 specific events that just didn't show up on my calendar on my EVO...All from Exchange and all events were in Outlook. I need to know this will work 100% of the time. Period.
Contacts
Blackberry: KIS -Keep is simple is exactly what they do. Never an issue with contacts. Always integrated nicely with the other aspects of Blackberry. In 6.0 you can see all conversations/activities within each contact.
EVO: The "people" app on the EVO was ok. When I first got the EVO, everything wanted to integrate with more than one source....it listed Google, PC, Exchange......and I only wanted Exchange....again, never felt 100%.
Apps:
Blackberry: App store is just ok...nothing great to mention here.
EVO: Android market is awesome....lots of great choices for the many things that can be done with Android.
UI
Blackberry: Simple and non-descript. 6.0 adds a good amount to it but it isn't on par with Android.
EVO: I love the time and weather widgets on the home screen. I definitely miss that on Blackberry.
Social Media:
I manage my company's Twitter account as well as our Facebook account (along with my personal accounts of each). I simply love TweetDeck for Android. With Blackberry, I haven't found a combined app that functions anywhere close. I tried HootSuite but it wasn't a combined app...I had to go into Facebook and then into Twitter. (if anyone has a recommendation here, by all means speak up).
Security
Blackberry: No contest here. If I left my Blackberry in a cab, I would not be concerned at all knowing that I could call my IT dept and have it shut down immediately.
EVO: Not so much. I know there are IT policies that can be implemented and it's "pretty" secure. I am not the IT department BUT I just don't feel as secure knowing that it isn't a BES.
Miscellaneous:
I think it's only a matter of time before Blackberry puts a much better camera in their devices. That is a big part of my satisfaction with the EVO. I am a huge amateur photographer and take pictures virtually everywhere I go. Earlier today as was driving my father in-law's 4-wheeler in the snowstorm pulling my 5 and 8 year old girls on saucers I pulled out my Blackberry and could easily turn around and snap a few shots as i was driving. Safe? probably not but I couldn't have done that as easily (if at all) with the EVO. Another thing I noticed was the ability to dial numbers from websites and calendar invites. On Blackberry, it just works. On the EVO, it was hit or miss.
Overall, the EVO is a great device. I travel a fair amount so having a device like that that could entertain me on a plane was a great draw. I loved Angry Birds, Kindle app and a few more. Problem was I would use all of that and then land and not have any juice to actually work. One of the biggest irritants of the EVO was having to hit the power button on the top to turn the device on. Sounds petty, but that bugged me.
Last week, I ordered an iPad with some Marriott points and I have a feeling that it will serve as more than enough entertainment on planes (hasn't arrived yet). I switched back to my 9650 this past Friday and because of the nature of my business I just think that Blackberry is the better device for me.
I will leave you with one stat that I pulled directly from Xobni (those not familiar with this app for Outlook, you should definitely check it out). It's a great organizer for email within Outlook but also has some analytics that will boggle your mind. It may sound petty but from the first of the year until the day I switched to my EVO my average response time was less than 3 minutes for email. From the day I switched to the EVO until this past Friday my average response time was just under 6 mins....
Ultimately, there isn't one perfect device (in my opinion). For me and right now, it appears that a Blackberry will better serve my needs from a business perspective. Thanks for everyone's assistance on this and other Android forums....you all have been great....Happy New Year!
Umm ok??? Scratching head...
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Why are you scratching your head? I just wanted to give a rundown from someone that has experienced both devices.
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Umm ok??? Scratching head...
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This is what you would call a post count troll.
Anyway I would go with BB for your business needs. I used to own a BB 8700, 8300, 8310, pearl, etc.
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gqstatus0685 said:
This is what you would call a post count troll.
Anyway I would go with BB for your business needs. I used to own a BB 8700, 8300, 8310, pearl, etc.
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No doubt....when I first read it I thought you were talking about me....then I really did scratch my head. Have a good night.
Yeah, there is really no question that the battery life on the Evo is only acceptible to people that have constant access to a charger or are willing to stuff a double or tripple size battery in their pocket.
Hopefully the Evo shift 4g will be a big improvement. With its larger battery, smaller screen and more power efficient processor it should be.
gqstatus0685 said:
This is what you would call a post count troll.
Anyway I would go with BB for your business needs. I used to own a BB 8700, 8300, 8310, pearl, etc.
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umm no, try again, i could care less about post count, I just didnt see a point of this thread because just about everyone knows the advantages/disadvantages of android phones and blackberries, at least the people that post on this site. but to each his own
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Yeah, there is really no question that the battery life on the Evo is only acceptible to people that have constant access to a charger or are willing to stuff a double or tripple size battery in their pocket.
Hopefully the Evo shift 4g will be a big improvement. With its larger battery, smaller screen and more power efficient processor it should be.
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Not sure if that comment is true.... my phone last well over 16 hours which is enough for me.. not sure what your battery life is but that's just my experience.
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Doesn't this BB phone have a 2.4" screen?
I sort of miss my blackberry. I'm thinking about going back. I am considering the curve 3G.
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in this base.
used a 9650 for a month than swapped to the EVO.
you are pretty much spot on in every aspect. I get p.good battery life on my Evo, enough for a solid day of use where I can plug it in at night.
Tethering is much easier on the EVO than a BB.
Completely agree on the Bolds keyboard, it is simply amazing. I hated the Curve keyboard, and am yet to find a slider i like...i think i just hate sliders.
Contemplated selling my Evo and picking up a Bold again. I carry my laptop around and EVO is just basically for texting/facebook. Also, BB Facebook App is a lot better then Androids.
Good post. I agree with most of the points. The one thing that makes me stick with Android is the applications I utilize. Though there are some decent applications on the BlackBerry, many of the are so overpriced. I also find that the BlackBerry versions of some are very poor when compared to their Android counterparts. (This is the same complaint iPhone users have about Android applications!)
I'm still getting used to OS 6 on my Bold.I believe I ran into a problem with battery life post-upgrade. It seems to be related to my WiFi. I also just found out that my camera isn't working--which will be a headache I deal with some time this week.
Two areas where I don't agree: I find that the BlackBerry application store is complete GARBAGE. I had to switch devices (went from a Tour to the Bold), and it lost my applications...despite following the instructions on how to ensure they weren't lost. When trying to rectify this, I found that RIM doesn't even have support (i.e., people with whom I can communicate) for issues like this.
The second area has to do with the email reconciliation. Just as Android has synchronize, the BlackBerry has "reconcile now." I'd say they're on-par in this respect. I don't think either one is perfect. I've had lost appointments on my BlackBerry, where they have been on my Evo.
One area I didn't see in your post had to do with GPS. I find that the Evo GPS works much better than my BlackBerry's. The BlackBerry, curiously, works great with RIM's own Maps application; third-party applications (Bing/Google Maps) were hit or miss.
On the other hand, the one area where the BlackBerry shines over the Evo is in international usage. Not only will the Bold roam on GSM, Sprint has a plan that is unlimited data for the Bold. Not so for the Evo. (Though Verizon has it for both BlackBerry and Android devices.)
Joel
Decent article, a bit lengthy, but full of good info. (i personally can't comprehend how someone would have enough time to sit down and write a posting of that magnitude)
Regardless. I have a Bold 9700 for work and my Evo for personal. I HATED BB before the work phone. now that i've used it and worked on the enterprise servers, i see the merits. it's a solid little device. not as feature packed as my evo.
the one main sticking point that i can't shake is, as you said, the battery life. it's amazing how long my Bold can go. i've had it off the charger for 4 days now. no problem. it's incredible. my evo? barely goes a full 12 hour work day without a charge. i know they make expanded batteries and i could always get extra batteries. But to be honest, i have no desire to remove two layers of otterbox defender just to replace a battery. it still amazes me that HTC missed the mark so greatly on the batteries, when all the other features rock.
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jbhorner said:
Good post. I agree with most of the points. The one thing that makes me stick with Android is the applications I utilize. Though there are some decent applications on the BlackBerry, many of the are so overpriced. I also find that the BlackBerry versions of some are very poor when compared to their Android counterparts. (This is the same complaint iPhone users have about Android applications!)
I'm still getting used to OS 6 on my Bold.I believe I ran into a problem with battery life post-upgrade. It seems to be related to my WiFi. I also just found out that my camera isn't working--which will be a headache I deal with some time this week.
Two areas where I don't agree: I find that the BlackBerry application store is complete GARBAGE. I had to switch devices (went from a Tour to the Bold), and it lost my applications...despite following the instructions on how to ensure they weren't lost. When trying to rectify this, I found that RIM doesn't even have support (i.e., people with whom I can communicate) for issues like this.
The second area has to do with the email reconciliation. Just as Android has synchronize, the BlackBerry has "reconcile now." I'd say they're on-par in this respect. I don't think either one is perfect. I've had lost appointments on my BlackBerry, where they have been on my Evo.
One area I didn't see in your post had to do with GPS. I find that the Evo GPS works much better than my BlackBerry's. The BlackBerry, curiously, works great with RIM's own Maps application; third-party applications (Bing/Google Maps) were hit or miss.
On the other hand, the one area where the BlackBerry shines over the Evo is in international usage. Not only will the Bold roam on GSM, Sprint has a plan that is unlimited data for the Bold. Not so for the Evo. (Though Verizon has it for both BlackBerry and Android devices.)
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I didnt mean to give any addtl credit to the BB App World but to be honest, I never use it and dont have a need to use it now...I search the web for the apps and use the dl link directly from their sites.
As far as reconcile goes, the EVO worked better for email (when it did work 100%). Again this is for email only....if I deleted an email on my pc it doesnt leave my bb...it does on the EVO.
Forgot about GPS - you are correct....the GPS on the EVO was far better and could be used for lots of cool things....I get Telenav for free on the BB so cost wise that isnt an issue.....hard to come close to Google Navigation although I will say it has routed me on some pretty crazy routes before.
One other thing I forgot was notes/memos. Yes, there are apps for Android that sync manually but it's 2010. I dont want to sync manually...I use notes alot (have over 350) and I really missed them on Android.
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Decent article, a bit lengthy, but full of good info. (i personally can't comprehend how someone would have enough time to sit down and write a posting of that magnitude)
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You can't "comprehend" how someone has 10 minutes to write out their experiences? Are you THAT busy?
I just remembered (after just experiencing the problem) another thing I absolutely hate about the BlackBerry email: it has a limit as to how much it will download per message. If a message is over a certain size, it pretty much flips you the middle finger. I just ran into this, actually. It doesn't seem like that big of a deal, but it is when reading HTML messages contained in external (non BES) email.
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Decent article, a bit lengthy, but full of good info. (i personally can't comprehend how someone would have enough time to sit down and write a posting of that magnitude)
Regardless. I have a Bold 9700 for work and my Evo for personal. I HATED BB before the work phone. now that i've used it and worked on the enterprise servers, i see the merits. it's a solid little device. not as feature packed as my evo.
the one main sticking point that i can't shake is, as you said, the battery life. it's amazing how long my Bold can go. i've had it off the charger for 4 days now. no problem. it's incredible. my evo? barely goes a full 12 hour work day without a charge. i know they make expanded batteries and i could always get extra batteries. But to be honest, i have no desire to remove two layers of otterbox defender just to replace a battery. it still amazes me that HTC missed the mark so greatly on the batteries, when all the other features rock.
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Your Bold 9700 is GSM, Bold 9650 is CDMA and GSM when needed.
GSM phones have much better battery life compared to CDMA ones. I would get about a day in a half-2 days of battery on my Bold. Evo if I rarely use it, i can get up to 30-34 hours of standby basically, but if using moderately I can get 20-24 hours. Bold with heavy use would last me a full day at least, Evo with heavy use i'm lucky to get 12 hours.
I do love the Bold, adn would have no qualms about going back to one. Especially if I had a Tablet also or something easier than my laptop. Might have to throw my Evo up for sale for $350 and see if I get any bites, haha.
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Size:
Blackberry: nice design...good fit in my hand but keyboard is just a tad small (I wear a XXL golf glove).
EVO: large 4.3" screen great for media but a little big to carry around daily. Until the EVO I was a BB holster guy. Having the EVO on my hip felt like a small TV on my belt. I lost that clip quickly and will never carry ANY device on my hip again.
Keyboard:
Blackberry: quite simply, it is perfect. No device can touch a Blackberry keyboard, IMO. Even other Android devices with sliders are no comparison.
EVO: This was my first time using a touchscreen device for any length of time. I didnt care for stock, tried Swype (eh) and decided that SwiftKey was the best choice for me. I got used to touchscreen with no problem and while I wasnt as fast as I was on my BB, it worked fine.
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OK! Longest useless post I've ever wasted my time reading! So you say the keyboard is too small, then you say it is perfect....is it perfectly small?
2.4" screen?
Are we talking about smartphones or featurephones here?
This is a must see video for Vibrant owners who text and drive. Pass the video along to anyone who owns a cell.
Make the following your New Year resolution: "I Won't Text and Drive."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DebhWD6ljZs
Anyone know how to inbed the video?
Well that will sure ruin a good vibe... Haha
I agree, quit doing it people.
I wrote this while driving.
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I wrote this while driving.
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You win!!!!!!
Texting when you can "talk on the phone" instead........hmmmmmmmm it is a younger generation thing
Soon, you will hear "I drive better when I am texting"
I drive alot I see people every day putting on makeup and eating while texting or reading emails............
Remember tonight @ 1 a.m. 40% of the people on the Highway will be impaired from partying and they will be texting Too !!! THAT IS WHY I AM STAYING HOME
Happy new year and be safe
Every single day I drive on the 405, which is one of the busiest highways in the world, every single day people to my left, and to my right are texting while driving, and getting into accidents.
Oh and I love the people who can afford a cell phone and monthly cell phone bill but won't spend 40 bucks on a bluetooth set or use the free wired set that comes in almost every box, so instead they hold the cell phone kinda low infront of their chest and put it on speakerphone.
I'm staying somewhere safe tonight too, I'm not going out with all the fools who are drinking and texting.
This is why google tts is so useful, although admittedly I've only used this a handful of times. Mostly I just wait until I've stopped.
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christpuncher said:
I wrote this while driving.
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epic win.
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This video says a lot, if it's really something important when will call you and then you can use speaker/BT/headset...ETC to answer the call. Here is WA it's been illegal to text since 2008, and they just changed the cell phone handsfree law so that they don't have to find a different reason to pull you over and then tack the cell phone on to that. If you want to kill yourself then continue to chat and text while driving with out a handsfree device. Me, I've got bluetooth both in the car, and a headset in my pocket.
I don't text while I drive (sometimes I'll do a quickie at a red light, if I know it'll be red for a good minute), but I'm not about to use a BT headset.
Last time I used one of those my ear canal got so inflamed I was about ready to go to the hospital. Maybe it's the materials that particular one was made of, but I'll never use them. Same goes for the headsets - had the same issue. Maybe I'm allergic to something they put in the plastics.
And yes, my ears are clean
So I do the speakerphone + hold it thing.
Personally I find talking on the phone almost as distracting as texting - headset or not. I've just recently stopped putting my phone on Silence when I get in the car to drive. I used to put it in the back seat, even. Now I just put it on the passanger seat.
That way I know to check it (or can glance and see who's calling), but there's no way I can reach for it while I'm actually driving down the road
One thing I can say is that when I had a phone with a landscape QWERTY keyboard (similar to blackberry) I hardly had to look at the phone when typing, and could do it with one hand pretty accurately (good enough that whoever I sent a text too knew what I was saying).
I can't stand peple who call or text you while you're driving, when you sent them a text or called them and told them you were getting in the car to be "OTW <someplace>." Why Why Why?!
If that video wasn't enough to convince you, search for this video on Youtube. I can't post links yet. PSA Texting while Driving U.K. Ad
Don't walk and text in malls.
You have to see this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWtDpGM36J8
How do you embed videos?
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monkey1911 said:
If you want to kill yourself then continue to chat and text while driving with out a handsfree device.
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It's not just you you're driving for. When you finally wreck, it could kill a few other people aside from you. Or worse yet, you could survive the wreck and blame yourself for the other people's deaths every day of the rest of your life. Your call, though.
Voice to Text & Voice Dialing: Good enough rely on 100%? screen 2 wide for 1 handing
Is the Voice to Text and Voice Dialing good enough on the Epic 4G that I can rely on it 100%?
The phone is too wide for me to use with one hand, and I "one hand" it frequently throughout my work day. I'm not even going to mention driving.
Thanks.
You must have small hands lol. Fits just fine in my hand. As for voice dialing I've never used it. But voice to text works great for me while driving. Just make sure there isn't too much background noise or it will mess up. And it doesn't know some words.
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Are you running Eclair or Froyo? Froyo has much improved voice functions that are pretty damn accurate.
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Are you running Eclair or Froyo? Froyo has much improved voice functions that are pretty damn accurate.
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Thanks for asking.
I'm actually still stuck with a Touch Pro 2 because I was waiting to see HTC's replacement (Evo Shift 4G) before I made a decision.
But, I have played with the Epic a bit.
Now, I have to decide between the Epic and the Shift.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5630/indepth-with-the-windows-8-consumer-preview/1
Very LONG read, for those who haven't looked at it yet
But very well written. Not biased much at all. He brings up some good points, and makes very logical arguments.
I do want to point out one thing tho - almost every average joe PC user used a mouse as the sole input method, unless words need to be written, then you use the keyboard. As the author of the article pointed out, to use W8 with any type of efficiency you need to use either a touchscreen or lots of keyboard shortcuts. all of us tech geeks (and yes, if you're reading this, even if you're a noob that means you know exponentially more about tech than most people) are willing to learn and adapt, but most people don't even know that windows HAS keyboard shortcuts. it took me 20 minutes to understand hot corners 100%. how long do you think it'll take your tech illeratite mother to figure it out? a month? my mother still doesn't grasp how bookmarks in Chrome (which i installed for her so she could have an adblocked web) work, and she's had it for about 6 months.
point stands, yes, for us the learning curve isn't that bad. but for your average user off the street who doesn't know what a browser is (seriously, watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4MwTvtyrUQ ) the learning curve is going to be too high to handle.
It is a well written article. To me the biggest argument is does it even matter for the average person to know all of the ins and outs of the start screen. As long as they can figure out how to click on the big icon labeled Internet, they can probably get to what they need. Once you're in the browser, metro is no longer applicable.
I think the basics are pretty easy to grab with minimal time on the system. So far I haven't had anybody NOT get it when I let them use it. Only a few minor questions at first which is normal for anything new.
Hmmm....
Well, the problem is that average users are very reluctant in breaking their old habits and often do not even WANT to learn something new. Unless something works roughly the same it used to before, they are not interested and write it off, because the "old one" was "so much better". I'm not saying all the people are like that, but a great deal really is, I used to work at tech support for quite a while and I think the video above is pretty accurate in terms of literacy in this field. People are very quick to write things off for the pettiest of reasons and 'interest' and plain curiosity fade fast.